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    Quote Originally Posted by JDriveSthND View Post
    IUB, I would think that with depth being what it is and both of these guys being rated as DT, that one or both of Dickerson and Hayes would be at DT/NG.

    Also, Hill's primary gift is as a pass rusher. Won't he get a look at OLB first with Sykes, Martini, Yeargin and possibly Morgan at ILB?

    I've also heard differing scouting reports on Bonner. Some have said he would be a LB, but at 6'4", 250 lbs already I think I agree with your projection to DE.

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    Could be on all. Right now I am just using the projected positions from one recruiting board. Another one has a lot of different thoughts on quite a few of these guys, examples being:

    1) As you said they have Dickerson as definitely being an inside guy.

    2) Hayes could play inside, but will probably play DE and slide inside at times.

    3) On Bonner there does seem to be general agreement that he will be a DE at the next level.

    4) Jhonathon Williams is listed as an OLB prospect on this chart but out of all the 2014 D recruits he seems most likely to be a hyrbrid OLB/DE.

    5) Blankenship is another potential hybrid but most expect him to eventually end up as a full time DE as listed in this chart.

    6) Yeargin is listed as a ILB here but others have him as a definite OLB because they feel his best skill is as a pass rusher.

    7) The people who feel Yeargin is an ILB also agree with you on Hill as an OLB for the exact same reason.

    8) On Sykes and Martini everyone seems to be in agreement on ILB. That would also apply to Morgan if he jumps on board.

    9) Some people list Tranquill as an ILB prospect but if Morgan commits he would probably be unanimously projected as a Safety prospect as listed on this chart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishunclebill View Post
    I don't believe that you can split a FBS level football scholarship. I think they can do something like that at levels below FCS only.
    Correct. I mean I guess technically you could but football is a "counter" sport meaning you couldnt the number of players on scholarship so it would actually hurt you instead of healp you.

    IUB is correct that you can at FCS level (and most other sports). Most sports, like soccer, it is rarer to get a fully scholly.
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    You can't split schollies...AND if a player plays Football, they cannot do so on a scholarship from another sport.

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    You can do partial schollies for other sports (think non-revenue sports).
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    Quote Originally Posted by lowayne View Post
    You can do partial schollies for other sports (think non-revenue sports).
    Correct D1 baseball programs pretty much have to split scholarships.

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  7. #27
    Updated for the Nyles Morgan verbal

    Listed below is the current status of 2014 scholarships by position. The total scholarship players listed is 86 which includes four 5th year Seniors in contention to return.

    Note that the class standings on this list are that only, they do not indicate remaining eligibility. anyone listed with a # or an * after their name have a redshirt year available beyond their class standing.

    Quarterback (3)
    Senior: Everett Golson *
    Sophomore: Malik Zaire *
    Freshman: DeShone Kizer- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Halfback (6)
    Senior: Amir Carlisle#, George Atkinson III, Cam McDaniel
    Junior- William Mahone *
    Sophomore: Greg Bryant *, Tarean Folston

    Fullback (0)

    Wide Receiver (10)
    Senior: Josh Atkinson, Davaris Daniels *
    Junior: Chris Brown, C.J. Prosise *
    Sophomore: Will Fuller, Torii Hunter Jr. #, James Onuwalu, Corey Robinson
    Freshman: Justin Brent- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Corey Holmes- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Tight End (6)
    Senior: Ben Koyack, Troy Niklas
    Sophomore: Mike Heuerman #, Durham Smythe *
    Freshman: Tyler Luatua- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Nic Weishar- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Center (4)
    Senior: Matthew Hegarty *, Nick Martin *
    Junior- Scott Daly *
    Sophomore: John Montelus #

    Offensive Guard (6)
    5th Year Senior: Christian Lombard
    Senior: Conor Hanratty *
    Junior- Mark Harrell *
    Sophomore: Colin McGovern #
    Freshman: Jimmy Byrne- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Sam Mustipher- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Offensive Tackle (6)
    Junior: Ronnie Stanley *
    Sophomore: Hunter Bivin *, Steve Elmer, Mike McGlinchey *
    Freshman: Alex Bars- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Quentin Nelson- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Defensive End (11)
    5th Year Senior: Justin Utupo
    Senior: Chase Hounshell *, Stephon Tuitt
    Junior: Sheldon Day
    Sophomore: Jacob Matuska *, Isaac Rochelle
    Freshman: Grant Blankenship- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Jonathan Bonner- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Matt Dickerson- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Jay Hayes- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Andrew Trumbetti- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Defensive Tackle/ Nose Guard (2)
    Senior: Tony Springmann *
    Junior: Jarron Jones *

    Outside Linebacker (6)
    Senior: Ben Councell *, Ishaq Williams
    Junior: Romeo Okwara
    Sophomore: Doug Randolph #, Jaylon Smith
    Freshman: Jhonathon Williams- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Inside Linebacker (10)
    5th Year Senior: Kendall Moore
    Senior: Jarrett Grace *, Anthony Rabasa *, Joe Schmidt *
    Sophomore: Michael Deeb *
    Freshman: Kolin Hill- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Greer Martini- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Nyles Morgan- 2013 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Nile Sykes- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Richard Yeargin III- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Cornerback (6)
    Senior: Jalen Brown *
    Junior: KeiVarae Russell
    Sophomore: Devin Butler, Rashad Kinlaw *, Cole Luke
    Freshman: Nick Watkins- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Safety (8)
    5th Year Senior: Austin Collinsworth
    Senior: Matthias Farley *, Eilar Hardy *
    Junior: Nicky Baratti #, Elijah Shumate, John Turner *
    Sophomore: Max Redfield
    Freshman: Drue Tranquill- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Punter/Kicker (2)
    Senior: Kyle Brindza
    Freshman: Tyler Newsome- 2014 Recruiting Class

    ASTERISK LEGEND
    * = Player may be eligible for 5th year of eligibility
    # = May be granted medical redshirt

  8. #28
    Updated for Tuitt's departure to the NFL

    Listed below is the current status of 2014 scholarships by position. The total scholarship players listed is 85 which includes four 5th year Seniors in contention to return.

    Note that the class standings on this list are that only, they do not indicate remaining eligibility. anyone listed with a # or an * after their name have a redshirt year available beyond their class standing.

    Quarterback (3)
    Senior: Everett Golson *
    Sophomore: Malik Zaire *
    Freshman: DeShone Kizer- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Halfback (6)
    Senior: Amir Carlisle#, George Atkinson III, Cam McDaniel
    Junior- William Mahone *
    Sophomore: Greg Bryant *, Tarean Folston

    Fullback (0)

    Wide Receiver (10)
    Senior: Josh Atkinson, Davaris Daniels *
    Junior: Chris Brown, C.J. Prosise *
    Sophomore: Will Fuller, Torii Hunter Jr. #, James Onuwalu, Corey Robinson
    Freshman: Justin Brent- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Corey Holmes- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Tight End (6)
    Senior: Ben Koyack, Troy Niklas
    Sophomore: Mike Heuerman #, Durham Smythe *
    Freshman: Tyler Luatua- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Nic Weishar- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Center (4)
    Senior: Matthew Hegarty *, Nick Martin *
    Junior- Scott Daly *
    Sophomore: John Montelus #

    Offensive Guard (6)
    5th Year Senior: Christian Lombard
    Senior: Conor Hanratty *
    Junior- Mark Harrell *
    Sophomore: Colin McGovern #
    Freshman: Jimmy Byrne- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Sam Mustipher- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Offensive Tackle (6)
    Junior: Ronnie Stanley *
    Sophomore: Hunter Bivin *, Steve Elmer, Mike McGlinchey *
    Freshman: Alex Bars- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Quentin Nelson- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Defensive End (10)
    5th Year Senior: Justin Utupo
    Senior: Chase Hounshell *
    Junior: Sheldon Day
    Sophomore: Jacob Matuska *, Isaac Rochelle
    Freshman: Grant Blankenship- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Jonathan Bonner- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Matt Dickerson- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Jay Hayes- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Andrew Trumbetti- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Defensive Tackle/ Nose Guard (2)
    Senior: Tony Springmann *
    Junior: Jarron Jones *

    Outside Linebacker (6)
    Senior: Ben Councell *, Ishaq Williams
    Junior: Romeo Okwara
    Sophomore: Doug Randolph #, Jaylon Smith
    Freshman: Jhonathon Williams- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Inside Linebacker (10)
    5th Year Senior: Kendall Moore
    Senior: Jarrett Grace *, Anthony Rabasa *, Joe Schmidt *
    Sophomore: Michael Deeb *
    Freshman: Kolin Hill- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Greer Martini- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Nyles Morgan- 2013 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Nile Sykes- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Richard Yeargin III- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Cornerback (6)
    Senior: Jalen Brown *
    Junior: KeiVarae Russell
    Sophomore: Devin Butler, Rashad Kinlaw *, Cole Luke
    Freshman: Nick Watkins- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Safety (8)
    5th Year Senior: Austin Collinsworth
    Senior: Matthias Farley *, Eilar Hardy *
    Junior: Nicky Baratti #, Elijah Shumate, John Turner *
    Sophomore: Max Redfield
    Freshman: Drue Tranquill- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Punter/Kicker (2)
    Senior: Kyle Brindza
    Freshman: Tyler Newsome- 2014 Recruiting Class

    ASTERISK LEGEND
    * = Player may be eligible for 5th year of eligibility
    # = May be granted medical redshirt

  9. #29
    Justin Utupo benefits from Tuitt's departure as no other DL on the recruiting horizon for ND means Utupo moves ahead of Moore & Collinsworth as more likely to return for a 5th year. If the Irish pick up 2 more verbals in this class Moore & Collinsworth would be at least temporarily the odd men out.

  10. #30
    Updated for GAIII's departure to somewhere

    Listed below is the current status of 2014 scholarships by position. The total scholarship players listed is 84 which includes four 5th year Seniors in contention to return.

    Note that the class standings on this list are that only, they do not indicate remaining eligibility. anyone listed with a # or an * after their name have a redshirt year available beyond their class standing.

    Quarterback (3)
    Senior: Everett Golson *
    Sophomore: Malik Zaire *
    Freshman: DeShone Kizer- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Halfback (5)
    Senior: Amir Carlisle#, Cam McDaniel
    Junior- William Mahone *
    Sophomore: Greg Bryant *, Tarean Folston

    Fullback (0)

    Wide Receiver (10)
    Senior: Josh Atkinson, Davaris Daniels *
    Junior: Chris Brown, C.J. Prosise *
    Sophomore: Will Fuller, Torii Hunter Jr. #, James Onuwalu, Corey Robinson
    Freshman: Justin Brent- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Corey Holmes- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Tight End (6)
    Senior: Ben Koyack, Troy Niklas
    Sophomore: Mike Heuerman #, Durham Smythe *
    Freshman: Tyler Luatua- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Nic Weishar- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Center (4)
    Senior: Matthew Hegarty *, Nick Martin *
    Junior- Scott Daly *
    Sophomore: John Montelus #

    Offensive Guard (6)
    5th Year Senior: Christian Lombard
    Senior: Conor Hanratty *
    Junior- Mark Harrell *
    Sophomore: Colin McGovern #
    Freshman: Jimmy Byrne- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Sam Mustipher- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Offensive Tackle (6)
    Junior: Ronnie Stanley *
    Sophomore: Hunter Bivin *, Steve Elmer, Mike McGlinchey *
    Freshman: Alex Bars- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Quentin Nelson- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Defensive End (10)
    5th Year Senior: Justin Utupo
    Senior: Chase Hounshell *
    Junior: Sheldon Day
    Sophomore: Jacob Matuska *, Isaac Rochelle
    Freshman: Grant Blankenship- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Jonathan Bonner- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Matt Dickerson- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Jay Hayes- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Andrew Trumbetti- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Defensive Tackle/ Nose Guard (2)
    Senior: Tony Springmann *
    Junior: Jarron Jones *

    Outside Linebacker (6)
    Senior: Ben Councell *, Ishaq Williams
    Junior: Romeo Okwara
    Sophomore: Doug Randolph #, Jaylon Smith
    Freshman: Jhonathon Williams- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Inside Linebacker (10)
    5th Year Senior: Kendall Moore
    Senior: Jarrett Grace *, Anthony Rabasa *, Joe Schmidt *
    Sophomore: Michael Deeb *
    Freshman: Kolin Hill- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Greer Martini- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Nyles Morgan- 2013 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Nile Sykes- 2014 Recruiting Class
    Freshman: Richard Yeargin III- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Cornerback (6)
    Senior: Jalen Brown *
    Junior: KeiVarae Russell
    Sophomore: Devin Butler, Rashad Kinlaw *, Cole Luke
    Freshman: Nick Watkins- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Safety (8)
    5th Year Senior: Austin Collinsworth
    Senior: Matthias Farley *, Eilar Hardy *
    Junior: Nicky Baratti #, Elijah Shumate, John Turner *
    Sophomore: Max Redfield
    Freshman: Drue Tranquill- 2014 Recruiting Class

    Punter/Kicker (2)
    Senior: Kyle Brindza
    Freshman: Tyler Newsome- 2014 Recruiting Class

    ASTERISK LEGEND
    * = Player may be eligible for 5th year of eligibility
    # = May be granted medical redshirt

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