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    Rivals/Scout/ESPN150 on ND Commits


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    The rankings for the 15 ND commits by Scout and Rivals are virtually identical at this point. Each have one 5 star in Rudolph, and each have Cave, Golic, Poz, and Hafis Williams as 3 stars.

    There are 3 differences. Big Omar is a 4 star on Rivals, and a 3 star on Scout, and Newman is a 3 star on Rivals and a 4 star on Scout. Scoutís latest evaluation also dropped Fauria to a 3 star, he is a 4 star on Rivals.

    Blanton, Clelland, Crist, Cwynar, Fleming, Goodman & McDonald are all 4 stars on both sites. The current average star rankings for the 15 ND commits is 3.73 on Rivals & 3.67 on Scout.

    Now for the ESPN 150 which is different as usual. Last year, the ESPN 150 had the highest rankings for the ND recruiting class of all the major recruiting boards, and it looks like this year will be a repeat of the same. Although Rudolph would not be considered a 5 star on the ESPN board, (need a Scout grade of 84 or higher for that) he and 11 other current ND recruits are all on the ESPN 150 Watch List, which is the Rivals/Scout equivalent of being a 4 star. The only 3 ND recruits who are not on the ESPN 150 Watch List are Golic, Goodman, and Hafis Williams, none of whom have been fully evaluated yet. If they get the equivalent ratings that they have on Rivals/Scout, ND would have the equivalent of thirteen 4 stars , and two 3 stars on the ESPN board, which would give ND an average star ranking there of 3.87.

    In summary with the assumptions listed above.

    Rivals- One 5 star , Nine 4 stars, and Five 3 stars = Avg. Star Ranking of 3.73

    Scout- = One 5 star , Eight 4 stars, and Six 3 stars = Avg. Star Ranking of 3.67

    ESPN 150- Thirteen 4 stars, and Two 3 stars = Avg. Star Ranking of 3.87

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    I want to see us at an avg of 4+ stars.....is that possible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rontdtarchala View Post
    I want to see us at an avg of 4+ stars.....is that possible!
    ---If you get more 5* than 3* so, basically it's not going to happen.

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    Scout has once again returned Fauria to a 4 star & Hunter is also now a Scout 4 star. With those changes, Scout actually rates the current ND recruiting class higher than Rivals. They must have lost one of their USC guys at the Scout main office, this is a first.

    Updated as of 6/25/07
    Rivals- One 5 star , Nine 4 stars, and Five 3 stars = Avg. Star Ranking of 3.73

    Scout- = One 5 star , Ten 4 stars, and Four 3 stars = Avg. Star Ranking of 3.80

    ESPN 150- Thirteen 4 stars, and Two 3 stars = Avg. Star Ranking of 3.87

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    Scout has now also made Braxston Cave a 4 star and a member of their 300 list at #251. ND now has 12 of their committed recruits on the Scout 300, the only exclusions are Golic, POZ, and Hafis Williams. The ND Average Star Ranking on Scout is now 3.87, which is the same as the ESPN 150.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishunclebill View Post
    Scout has now also made Braxston Cave a 4 star and a member of their 300 list at #251. ND now has 12 of their committed recruits on the Scout 300, the only exclusions are Golic, POZ, and Hafis Williams. The ND Average Star Ranking on Scout is now 3.87, which is the same as the ESPN 150.
    -------I really think the Hafis thing is because there is ZERO film on him. I mean has anybody Rivals or Scout even seen one shred of film? All I know is I know the High School which is nasty and the kids a straight beast. Just makes me all that more excited to see his film if or when it ever sees the light of day. Kind of like Poz. who's film is mostly from scrimmages and him showing off his wheels at RB. 3 guys out of 15 are 3 stars? if you look at UCLA's recruiting compared to ours we are definently ahead of them now with nothing but 4 and 5 star studs waiting to jump aboard the ND train.

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    Updated as of 6/29/07

    To reflect verbals of Slaughter & EJ. Slaughter is a 4 star on both Rivals & Scout and an equivalent 5 star on ESPN. EJ is a 5 star on Scout, a 4 star on Rivals, and an equivalent 4 star on ESPN.

    Rivals- One 5 star , Eleven 4 stars, and Five 3 stars = Avg. Star Ranking of 3.76

    Scout- Two 5 stars , Twelve 4 stars, and Three 3 stars = Avg. Star Ranking of 3.94

    ESPN 150- One 5 star, Fourteen 4 stars, and Two 3 stars = Avg. Star Ranking of 3.94

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    Quote Originally Posted by rontdtarchala View Post
    I want to see us at an avg of 4+ stars.....is that possible!
    When Floyd commits, this will happen rontdtarchala. And, it will be a nice thing to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goirish41 View Post
    When Floyd commits, this will happen rontdtarchala. And, it will be a nice thing to see.
    Absolutely, Floyd is a Scout 5 star, and an ESPN equivalent 5 star, so if he commits, ND would have a nice round 4.0 avg. on both Scout & ESPN. It is also likely to stay that way as well as most of the recruits left on the ND horizon are 4 or 5 stars on most recruiting boards.

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    Updated as of 7/17/07

    To reflect verbal of Dan McCarthy. McCarthy is a 4 star on both Rivals & Scout and an equivalent 4 star on ESPN.

    Rivals- One 5 star , Twelve 4 stars, and Five 3 stars = Avg. Star Ranking of 3.78

    Scout- Two 5 stars , Thirteen 4 stars, and Three 3 stars = Avg. Star Ranking of 3.94

    ESPN 150- One 5 star, Fifteen 4 stars, and Two 3 stars = Avg. Star Ranking of 3.94

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