The 3 finalists for the Bear Bryant Award are Nick Saban, Nick Saban & Nick Saban. Regardless of who wins, and Alabama HC will win the bear Bryant Coach of the Year Award for the 15th straight year.
Now we know how these guys calculate their national championships.
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12-19-2012, 12:35 PM #1541Senior Member
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Register to remove this advertisementAnd yet not even a nominee for the Bear Bryant award...curious....
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12-19-2012, 01:38 PM #1542Senior Member
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12-19-2012, 03:11 PM #1543All winning teams are goal-oriented. Teams like these win consistently because everyone connected with them concentrates on specific objectives. They go about their business with blinders on; nothing will distract themfrom achieving their aims.
- Lou Holtz, former Notre Dame football coach
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12-20-2012, 08:08 PM #1544
Doyal over at CBS was downplaying Saban leaving and wondering if BK might exit instead.
Not a thought that had ever occured in my mind until then. I see BK as an opportunist (who isn't), but also as someone who has realized it by being
at ND. He is a college coach, IMO. Like Clint said "a man has to know his limitations".
Anyone else see Kelly leaving the friendly confines of SB for the NFL?
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12-20-2012, 08:27 PM #1545
I don't personally, but that doesn't mean shit. Maybe he does in another 4 or 5 years? Honestly I just see him being a college coach.
KeiVarae Russell: "When the coaches told me over the next few days in the film room that I was gonna start I was like ‘Uh Oh’.”
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12-20-2012, 09:08 PM #1546Senior Member
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Doyal over at CBS was downplaying Saban leaving and wondering if BK might exit instead.
Not a thought that had ever occured in my mind until then. I see BK as an opportunist (who isn't), but also as someone who has realized it by being
at ND. He is a college coach, IMO. Like Clint said "a man has to know his limitations".
Anyone else see Kelly leaving the friendly confines of SB for the NFL?
That being said, I still think the chances of Saban being in the NFL in the next 2 years are greater than that of BK.For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled.
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12-20-2012, 09:18 PM #1547
Doubt he heads to the league. Honestly, he wouldn't be a good NFL coach, and I think he knows that. He's a college coach and a program builder. There's not much room in the NFL for "programs".
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12-20-2012, 09:36 PM #1548
He won't get a statue in the NFL. He's got a good shot at one if he wins on January 7.
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12-21-2012, 09:50 AM #1549Senior Member
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If he wins 1/7/13, he'll get a statue. Maybe not for years, but he'll get one.
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12-22-2012, 06:58 AM #1550I am really tired of the media saying that Kelly is the guy! After watching that you tube speech I felt like falling asleep.
I highly doubt that a guy who is in the middle of a potential undefeated season would quit on his team just to head to ND. That would have to be the ultimate dream job to want to do that and if he did I am not sure I would want him to coach anyway. IF Weis was to leave then the only logical chioce is Gruden. He dosen't have a coaching job. He is wide open to jump right in and keep recruting going. ND went after him first the last two openings. He makes the most sense.
By no means do I want CW to leave. I feel he will be forced out and that is a shame......Brian Kelly??
as long as we want ND to become like Central Michigan, and Grand Valley State, or Cincinnati I say he is the guy. but if we want to compete in the upper D1 (yes, im old skool, i still say D1) then ND does not want anything to do with him.
He would be Ty II - He would get the same players he got while at Central Michigan, and Grand Valley State or Cincy; just like Ty got the same type of players at Notre Dame that he got while at Stanford.
Central Michigan, Grand Valley State, Cincinnati, or Stanford recruits, are not ND recruits.Brian Kelly....... another offensive "guru". Why trade one for another? Illinois just put up 36 on Cincinnati. That's only 2 less than the Michigan defense gave up to the Illini. UCONN scored 45 points on the Cinci defense, ND only gave up 33 points to UCONN and that was including an overtime period. I think Brian Kelly is a great coach, he's just not what ND needs at this time.Stoops can make us a powerhouse in no time. With his name and Notre Dame beside one another we will get the recruits that can make a difference on both sides of the ball. Kelly might be successful but it will take him too long to get the program where it needs to be in my opinion. Having a winning record just isn't enough at this point, I want to see ND compete for a NC in the next three years! Anything less is a failure in my opinion!I would be cryin'! I just don't get the Kelly as HC. His defense sucks. He hasn't recruited anybody at a high level. They haven't played anybody. I just feel like he is todays special on the menu so we have to take him. He dosen't give me the "IT" factor or "WOW" factor. I could ND going after TUBS B4 Kelly. I just don't see him as part of the list of requirements that Jack set out Monday night.
My money is still on Stoops!i would prefer a real defensive minded coach. Kelly IMO is just like Charlie, and great offensive coach. Just think if ND had a defense...Charlie would still be coach. I think if we hire Kelly, then we are just hiring Charlie light (no pun intended).
i would much rather hire the defensive coordinator of a top team. what about the D coach from Bama, TCU, Nebraska???I feel that Brian Kelly is no better than Bob Davie. Who at the time I was a big supporter of, I will not fall for the same trap twice. I feel that if BK is the Home Run hire that JS refered to in his press conference then he has miss his goal.
There is a rather large amount of money laid out for tickets(season) and Kelly will receive the fruits of CW work. If BK is the Home Run that we are to get, I think we could have left things take it course with Weis another year. Frank Beamer wasn't succesfull unitl year seven at VA. Tech.
1987- Head Coach, Virginia Tech
1987 (2-9)
1988 (3-8)
1989 (6-4-1)
1990 (6-5)
1991 (5-6)
1992 (2-8-1)
1993 (9-3) Independence Bowl champion
1994 (8-4) Gator Bowl
1995 (10-2) BIG EAST, Sugar Bowl champion
1996 (10-2) BIG EAST co-champion, Orange Bowl
1997 (7-5) Gator Bowl
1998 (9-3) Music City Bowl champion
1999 (11-1) BIG EAST champion, Sugar Bowl
2000 (11-1) Gator Bowl champion
2001 (8-4) Gator Bowl
2002 (10-4) San Francisco Bowl champion
2004 (10-3) ACC champion, Sugar Bowl
2005 (11-2) ACC Coastal champion, Gator Bowl champion
2006 (10-3) Chick-fil-A Bowl
2007 (11-3) ACC champion, Orange Bowl
2008 (10-4) ACC champion, Orange Bowl champion
Why would we have made a change w/o the "HR" hire JS refered to?
I don't feel that his plan was in place before firing Weis. He was confident that he could land Stoops on $$$$ alone and that didn't happen. Now he has moved on to BK because there are no options left. Mike Stoops would be a better hire or Tubberville or Gary Patterson. They have had more big time college football experience. Most of all JS said the hire would be defensive minded. BK defense sucks and like everyone else has already siad "they had ten new defenseive players."
All I am saying that JS promised a HR hire and BK is not it. His planning was poor and you would think ND would have learned from its mistakes (Bob Davie, George O'Leary, Ty)before firing Weis they should have had someone in place. I hope Kelly is playing ND for a pay raise at CU. Then JS will really have to earn his money!
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