2008 Recruiting Class Size

[Svoboda]

I've stuck by my opinion that Notre Dame would only take 22 recruits in this class. However, that assumption was before the momentum we've seen established over the last couple of days.

Updated 2008 Class By Position

QB - Dayne Crist (Need 1, Got 1)
RB - None (Need 0-1, Got 0)
WR - John Goodman (Need 2-3, Got 1)
TE - Kyle Rudolph, Joseph Fauria (Need 2, Got 2)
OL - Lane Clelland, Mike Golic, Braxston Cave (Need 4-5, Got 3)
DL - Sean Cwynar, Hafis Williams, Omar Hunter, Brandon Newman, Ethan Johnson (Need 4-5, Got 5)
LB - Anthony McDonald, Paul Posluszny, Darius Fleming (Need 4-5, Got 3)
DB - Robert Blanton, Jamoris Slaughter (Need 3-4, Got 2)

It does look like Notre Dame is now done at the following positions: Quarterback, Tight End and Defensive Line. I've got a feeling that we could take one or two more guys on top of my 22 recruit assumption, especially if a blue chip wants to come late in the game at a position of need - like wide receiver or linebacker.

[scooper]

I'm starting to thing there will be fierce competition for two fifth year spots next season. Crum, if he wants it, should pretty much be a lock for the first. After that, it's a Brown, Lambert, Vernaglia battle royale. The biggest contributer gets it.

Put the class at 24, which is still 7 more spots. Hold off the urge to go all the way to 25 for that one great player in 09 that you want to make sure you save room for.

To put this in perspective-if recruiting happens at this pace a year from now, the class would have probably been full a couple weeks ago. That's how little space will be available next season.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Hard to argue with that logic..I think you're dead on.

[Svoboda]

I'm starting to thing there will be fierce competition for two fifth year spots next season. Crum, if he wants it, should pretty much be a lock for the first. After that, it's a Brown, Lambert, Vernaglia battle royale. The biggest contributer gets it.

Put the class at 24, which is still 7 more spots. Hold off the urge to go all the way to 25 for that one great player in 09 that you want to make sure you save room for.

To put this in perspective-if recruiting happens at this pace a year from now, the class would have probably been full a couple weeks ago. That's how little space will be available next season.
Yep, I think the 5th year competition will be uber competitive. Another thing to consider is if folks like Crum and Lambert impress, they may opt for the NFL especially now that they have a former NFL assistant that can lobby for them to teams.

I look for the 5th year to become a rarity.

[scooper]

Crum, I think, has potential NFL skills, but he could use another year or two to try to pack on the solid bulk.

He'll never be a high rounder, but he could become a solid mid round guy. Who knows? He may surprise us and have an All American type season under Brown.

[irishunclebill]

I'm starting to thing there will be fierce competition for two fifth year spots next season. Crum, if he wants it, should pretty much be a lock for the first. After that, it's a Brown, Lambert, Vernaglia battle royale. The biggest contributer gets it.

Put the class at 24, which is still 7 more spots. Hold off the urge to go all the way to 25 for that one great player in 09 that you want to make sure you save room for.

To put this in perspective-if recruiting happens at this pace a year from now, the class would have probably been full a couple weeks ago. That's how little space will be available next season.

Just so I understand Scoop, the absolute max is 26 if Zach transfers, no 5th years get asked back, and Bemenderfer does not earn an athletic schollie. Right?

So if they stop at 24 that leaves the 2 spots for the seven 2008 5th year eligibles to fight over. Actually, if Bemenderfer needs or wants an athletic schollie he would be competing for one of those spots as well, which gives him some additional incentive to perform as well.

[SpanishElite]

Just so I understand Scoop, the absolute max is 26 if Zach transfers, no 5th years get asked back, and Bemenderfer does not earn an athletic schollie. Right?

So if they stop at 24 that leaves the 2 spots for the seven 2008 5th year eligibles to fight over. Actually, if Bemenderfer needs or wants an athletic schollie he would be competing for one of those spots as well, which gives him some additional incentive to perform as well.

That seems pretty spot on with the numbers.

[scooper]

Yeah, that sounds about right.

[Smithers]

I've stuck by my opinion that Notre Dame would only take 22 recruits in this class. However, that assumption was before the momentum we've seen established over the last couple of days.

Updated 2008 Class By Position

QB - Dayne Crist (Need 1, Got 1)
RB - None (Need 0-1, Got 0)
WR - John Goodman (Need 2-3, Got 1)
TE - Kyle Rudolph, Joseph Fauria (Need 2, Got 2)
OL - Lane Clelland, Mike Golic, Braxston Cave (Need 4-5, Got 3)
DL - Sean Cwynar, Hafis Williams, Omar Hunter, Brandon Newman, Ethan Johnson (Need 4-5, Got 5)
LB - Anthony McDonald, Paul Posluszny, Darius Fleming (Need 4-5, Got 3)
DB - Robert Blanton, Jamoris Slaughter (Need 3-4, Got 2)

It does look like Notre Dame is now done at the following positions: Quarterback, Tight End and Defensive Line. I've got a feeling that we could take one or two more guys on top of my 22 recruit assumption, especially if a blue chip wants to come late in the game at a position of need - like wide receiver or linebacker.

Well as of today, we (un?)officially have 17 on board, and in a perfect world, the rest would fall out as such:

RB - Thomas
WR - Floyd and Baldwin
OL - Forst
LB - Filer and/or Sabino
DB - McCarthy

which would give us 23/24, and a top 5 class IMO.

[irishunclebill]

Well as of today, we (un?)officially have 17 on board, and in a perfect world, the rest would fall out as such:

RB - Thomas
WR - Floyd and Baldwin
OL - Forst
LB - Filer and/or Sabino
DB - McCarthy

which would give us 23/24, and a top 5 class IMO.

I think everybody would be damned happy with that particular group, they had better be. If they let Brown commit next week, Thomas could be the odd man out in that scenario.

[Smithers]

I think everybody would be damned happy with that particular group, they had better be. If they let Brown commit next week, Thomas could be the odd man out in that scenario.

As I wrote in another thread, I've heard that Brown might be the odd man out unless they're looking at him for WR. But it wouldn't surprise me if Thomas is out either. He's probably the least needed of the group.

[scooper]

I don't think there is such a thing as "letting him decide" at ND. If he has an offer and wants to commit next week, they'll take it. If they no longer want a guy in order to hold out for a bigger fish, I'd think they'd simply pull the offer and roll the dice with the other guy. I don't see ND stringing kids along who already have offers. That would be awfully URBANe of them.

[rontdtarchala]

correct scoop and we will never stoop to urbanesk type actions and thats just one of the many reasons I love ND top notch people top to bottom

[irishunclebill]

I don't think there is such a thing as "letting him decide" at ND. If he has an offer and wants to commit next week, they'll take it. If they no longer want a guy in order to hold out for a bigger fish, I'd think they'd simply pull the offer and roll the dice with the other guy. I don't see ND stringing kids along who already have offers. That would be awfully URBANe of them.

Yea, poor choice of words on my part. They would not let him come up on his own dime and then tell him he could not commit. He would be told not to bother to make the trip. The mere fact that he is coming has committment written all over it, unless for some reason he does not like what he sees next week, and as we all know, how is that possible.;)

[notredomer23]

acording to GG, Michael Floyd possibly commited, its just not public yet. He said some info got leaked out.

[SpanishElite]

acording to GG, Michael Floyd possibly commited, its just not public yet. He said some info got leaked out.

Thanks for the update, but here we go again! Another 24 hours of leaked info and rumors, but hoepfully it ends the same way as E. Johnson.

[IrishCalves]

Thanks for the update, but here we go again! Another 24 hours of leaked info and rumors, but hoepfully it ends the same way as E. Johnson.

I'm going to put my faith in IUB's avatar. He's a smart guy, he wouldn't go around advertising the enemy :cool:. I'll keep my fingers crossed for the biggest get left on our board.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Top five??? it would be pushing 2 or 3.

[Smithers]

acording to GG, Michael Floyd possibly commited, its just not public yet. He said some info got leaked out.

At this point I would think he's told the coaching staff. He probably just wants to have his day and announce his commitment. We might have to wait for that but it's worth it.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Silent verbal? I don't think CW will let him go too long with that. If he did, I would expect him to announce fairly soon.

[tedwick]

Silent verbal? I don't think CW will let him go too long with that. If he did, I would expect him to announce fairly soon.silent verbals are different than keeping it quiet. under CW, you just can't be looking. i don't think there are any restrictions or guidelines for making your college choice public. He can go public whenever he wants. he just can't be looking around in the "traditional" silent verbal sense.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I hear ya. But it does go against the norm. Verballing is important because it tells other coaches not to waste their time, or to attempt a poach.

[Grady]

Weis has got to be pushing the recruits to give a verbal, not just a silent verbal, as soon as possible. If the recruit doesn't want to do it yet, then Weis will continue to look at other recruits at that position. With the momentum we've got going, the recruits have a lot of pressure to jump on board before our class is full.

[IrishKnight1023]

I tried asking IUB about his Floyd avatar, but it went unanswered. Maybe wants to keep it to himself and not leak any inside info.

[Smithers]

silent verbals are different than keeping it quiet. under CW, you just can't be looking. i don't think there are any restrictions or guidelines for making your college choice public. He can go public whenever he wants. he just can't be looking around in the "traditional" silent verbal sense.

Basically what I meant. To me, a silent verbal means "I'm going to your school unless I find something better." In this case, it's just "Let me tell the world when I'm ready."

Maybe it's the homer in me, but I think there's a difference.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Thanx Homer.

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[NDgrandson]

http://blueandgold.com/content/?aid=3962

This is a good read on B&G about the number of recruits we take this year. He states 24 most likely but if a guy like Forston wants in at the last minute, CW may take him and not bring back Crum. ???

The shortcoming of the article IMO is the impact of the next 2 to 3 classes if we were to take 24 / 25. It would be nicwe to get some balance on a yearly basis and take 22 per year. It would also be nice to continue our recruiting momentum and take those studs who still hold ND offers. ???

Arthur Brown... we want you.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I agree with this mindset..The sooner we get in high quality players (depth, espec on D), the sooner ND will return to the top.