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HoffVir
01-21-2014, 07:09 PM
Safety
Las Vegas, Nevada
Bishop Gorman

Ht:5'10"
Wt:175 lbs
40:4.6 secs
Bench Max:225
Squat Max:315

http://rivals.yahoo.com/notredame/football/recruiting/player-Nicco-Fertitta-130508

http://247sports.com/Player/Nicco-Fertitta-29976?Institution=23756

Reporting an Irish offer. Also has offers from Boston College, Hawaii, Indiana, Utah, and Villanova. Interest from Arizona, Colorado, Harvard, Houston, San Diego, UCLA, UNLV, Washington, Washington St, Wisconsin, and Yale.

http://youtu.be/4ki13g8klNY

HoffVir
01-21-2014, 07:10 PM
Tyler James ‏@TJamesNDI
'15 Bishop Gorman S Nicco Fertitta (@NFsoCrucial) reports an offer from #NotreDame. Has previously visited Irish.
7:02 PM - 21 Jan 2014

HoffVir
01-21-2014, 07:16 PM
Adam Gorney ‏@adamgorney
Nicco Fertitta's father, Lorenzo, is the CEO of @ufc
7:13 PM - 21 Jan 2014

stonebreakerwasgod
01-22-2014, 11:19 AM
Supposedly a big irish fan.

JDriveSthND
02-07-2014, 04:10 PM
Tyler James ‏@TJamesNDI
'15 Bishop Gorman S Nicco Fertitta (@NFsoCrucial) reports an offer from #NotreDame. Has previously visited Irish.
7:02 PM - 21 Jan 2014

I hope we're not recruiting him to play Safety. A 5'9", 160 lbs Safety? Not a good idea. Maybe Slot Receiver?

zimmsbg78
03-10-2014, 09:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8qQkLdA02k&feature=player_detailpage

HoffVir
03-14-2014, 08:37 PM
Irish Illustrated ‏@NDatRivals (https://twitter.com/NDatRivals)
Top Irish safety target @NFsoCrucial (https://twitter.com/NFsoCrucial) (Nicco Fertitta) is headed to the U.S. Army Bowl. Planning to visit Notre Dame again this off-season.
8:26 PM - 14 Mar 2014

zimmsbg78
03-28-2014, 10:32 AM
Nicco says he plans to unofficially visit ND on April 5th.

Dayton_Domer
04-05-2014, 07:13 PM
on campus right now....big news afoot.

HoffVir
04-05-2014, 07:41 PM
Tom Loy ‏@TomLoy247 (https://twitter.com/TomLoy247)
BREAKING.: #NotreDame (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NotreDame&src=hash) lands it's 6th commitment from the 2015 class in Las Vegas DB Nicco Fertitta. http://notredame.247sports.com/Article/Nicco-Fertitta-Commits-To-Notre-Dame-186903 … (http://t.co/BH5hScf4Uo) via @BGInews (https://twitter.com/BGInews)
7:38 PM - 5 Apr 2014

Dayton_Domer
04-05-2014, 07:47 PM
beat me to it.


#6!!!!

HoffVir
04-05-2014, 07:51 PM
Tyler James ‏@TJamesNDI (https://twitter.com/TJamesNDI)
'15 S Nicco Fertitta MT @NFsoCrucial (https://twitter.com/NFsoCrucial): I'm officially committed to THE University of Notre Dame #GoIrish (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23GoIrish&src=hash) #WeAreND (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23WeAreND&src=hash) https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v1/72x72/1f340.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v1/72x72/1f64c.png pic.twitter.com/32sXA6gwLz (http://t.co/32sXA6gwLz)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bkfvbb9IcAAVeCM.jpg (https://twitter.com/NFsoCrucial/status/452593545405153280/photo/1/large)
7:50 PM - 5 Apr 2014
(https://twitter.com/NFsoCrucial/status/452593545405153280/photo/1/large)

mlcspinner
04-05-2014, 08:42 PM
Welcome a boy young man but gain some weight

BlakeJ
04-08-2014, 12:46 PM
Another tiny Safety. Yikes.

LOVEMYIRISH
04-08-2014, 02:11 PM
Another tiny Safety. Yikes.

"ultra-lean"

JDriveSthND
04-08-2014, 02:18 PM
He's the 247Composite #4 player in Nevada and a top player and leader on one of the top high school football programs in the country in Bishop Gorman. Let's trust the staff on this one shall we?

Plus, if he could help swing Aliz'e Jones our way that would be a huge bonus.

NotreDameNate
04-08-2014, 05:16 PM
I think we should all know by now that just because a player plays a particular position in highschool doesn't mean that's where he will play at ND.

Domer Dog
04-08-2014, 08:09 PM
The kid has heart, you need leaders that show heart. He will play special teams immediately, and be a contributor down the road. Think Kyle Mac, good leader, sure tackler, not gifted with blazing speed but a good football mind and lots of heart. Didn't contribute a tremendous amount his first couple of years. I look at this kid the same way. Plus, he could grow, he's only a junior in HS. I graduated at 5'7" 145 lbs soaking wet, and when I graduated from college I was 6'1" 220.

LOVEMYIRISH
04-08-2014, 10:50 PM
The kid has heart, you need leaders that show heart. He will play special teams immediately, and be a contributor down the road. Think Kyle Mac, good leader, sure tackler, not gifted with blazing speed but a good football mind and lots of heart. Didn't contribute a tremendous amount his first couple of years. I look at this kid the same way. Plus, he could grow, he's only a junior in HS. I graduated at 5'7" 145 lbs soaking wet, and when I graduated from college I was 6'1" 220.

Hoping for Kyle Mac, not Dan Mac.

BlakeJ
04-10-2014, 03:08 PM
The kid has heart, you need leaders that show heart. He will play special teams immediately, and be a contributor down the road. Think Kyle Mac, good leader, sure tackler, not gifted with blazing speed but a good football mind and lots of heart. Didn't contribute a tremendous amount his first couple of years. I look at this kid the same way. Plus, he could grow, he's only a junior in HS. I graduated at 5'7" 145 lbs soaking wet, and when I graduated from college I was 6'1" 220.

Well just looking at his pictures with his dad...he already stands a good 3 inches over his father. Id guess 6'0" is out of the equation.

LOVEMYIRISH
04-10-2014, 03:24 PM
Well just looking at his pictures with his dad...he already stands a good 3 inches over his father. Id guess 6'0" is out of the equation.

Yeah...while anything is possible, he's already 17...it's rare to grow much past that age.

He's small, saying "he might grow" is not a good thing. You have to assume you are getting what you see and you need to build on that. He's in great shape but it light and not very fast. Some people question his ability to tackle.

Half his offers are from non-BCS schools...and they other offers (besides ours) are from low-tier BCS schools.

I am not sure why he's not a preferred walk-on to be honest.

lowayne
04-10-2014, 04:52 PM
Yeah...while anything is possible, he's already 17...it's rare to grow much past that age.

He's small, saying "he might grow" is not a good thing. You have to assume you are getting what you see and you need to build on that. He's in great shape but it light and not very fast. Some people question his ability to tackle.

Half his offers are from non-BCS schools...and they other offers (besides ours) are from low-tier BCS schools.

I am not sure why he's not a preferred walk-on to be honest.

It's not that unusual to keep growing at 17+ years old. That said, this situation does seem to suggest preferred walk-on status.

JDriveSthND
05-12-2014, 10:04 AM
Half his offers are from non-BCS schools...and they other offers (besides ours) are from low-tier BCS schools.

I am not sure why he's not a preferred walk-on to be honest.

I'm with you. I was just looking at Justin Tranquill's ratings and he's actually ranked higher than his brother was at the safety position and in the state of Indiana.

An apples-to-apples comparison with Fertitta, shows better:
1) Size: 5-11, 195 vs 5-10(ish), 175
2) 247Composite Rating: .8883 vs .8463
3) 247Composite National Rank: 315 vs 878
4) 247Composite Position Rank: 20 vs 64

Tranquill also has the previous connection to ND with Drue part of the 2014 class and set to enroll soon. Honestly, this strikes me as a little bit of a publicity thing - kind of an, "Oh, look at us, we landed the UFC CEO's son." - which sucks, if that's the reason. This class isn't going to be that big in the first place, and Tranquill appears to be a much better FBS prospect, who's in ND's own backyard, and already has the family connection to the school.

Incidentally, he's also ranked higher than our other safety commit, McKinney, who's composite rating .8641, but at least Prentice is 6-2, 180 and looks the part.

Now, I'm not saying Justin Tranquill is the answer at safety, in fact, to be successful at the position we should be bringing in a Max Redfield type every year, and with 2 safeties already in the class we probably don't even have room now to shoot for an elite guy. But if we're going to offer some depth guys as well, I'd prefer to see guys like Tranquill who are at least knocking on the door of the 247Composite top 300 than someone ranked well outside the top 800.

Just my thoughts.

wernd50
05-16-2014, 11:30 AM
I just watched 2 "highlight" videos. If that s the best 50 plays that he can come up with we are in trouble. He cant play. Against fair competition he is middle-of-the-road at best. Maybe the Irish staff are looking at him as a project but he looks like a waste of a scholarship to me

JDriveSthND
05-16-2014, 12:22 PM
I just watched 2 "highlight" videos. If that s the best 50 plays that he can come up with we are in trouble. He cant play. Against fair competition he is middle-of-the-road at best. Maybe the Irish staff are looking at him as a project but he looks like a waste of a scholarship to me

His best offers, other than ND, were Arizona, BC and Utah. He also has offers from Hawaii, UNLV, San Diego State, and Villanova. I don't see him ever playing a significant role on defense. Perhaps special teams, but we shouldn't be handing out scholarships for special teams-at-best type players. As my previous post indicated, in very much in agreement with you. I think this offer was given way too early and I can't understand it. At first, I chalked it up to trusting the staff, but now I just don't get it. In the past 4 recruiting classes (I'm not counting 2010 because it was a transition class), Kelly and Co. have only taken 5 recruits who's rankings were near or below Fertitta's. Two of them with specialists in LS Scott Daly and Kicker Tyler Newsome. Two more were positions of needs in DE Jhonny Williams and DT Pete Mokwuah last year. The fifth was Mathias Farley, who while it's safe to say ND's gotten the most value possible out of him (see 2012), he lost his starting job at Safety due to his lack of athleticism and was moved to Nickel Corner because it's his only chance of seeing the field as a Senior.

Now, we'll have to see how Mokwuah and Williams pan out. They both appear to have been underrated due to the fact that the need to get into college football shape in one way or another and are fairly raw prospects. Fertitta doesn't have the same excuse. He appears to be maxing out his potential now in high school. That's not encouraging for a prospect that is coming to ND.

Now, the Irish are still entering the season with fewer than 85 scholarship players (83), so maybe the staff is figuring on more attrition or assuming that scholarships will be available for the better recruits they are seeking, but if Nicco is being viewed as a safety than we are probably done in this class at safety, which is not good because we don't have a Redfield/Shumate type athlete in the class. If he's a Nickel Corner, I'm more ok with the scholarship because he won't be on the field as much and needed as much, plus that means there's room for an elite safety.

Overall, I think the staff jumped the gun with this offer and commitment.

SouthernIrish
05-16-2014, 12:26 PM
His Dad is a billionaire.

He is schoolmates with Cordell Broadus (sp?) and someone else ND wants.

His Dad is a billionaire.

nuff said.

HoffVir
05-16-2014, 02:43 PM
His Dad is a billionaire.

He is schoolmates with Cordell Broadus (sp?) and someone else ND wants.

His Dad is a billionaire.

nuff said.

He sure is.

Also trying to build a pipeline at a powerhouse of a school. The kids seems to be very outgoing and might be good in helping to recruit the rest of the class (and beyond). Maybe he could develop into a nickel/dime back or at least a special teams contributor. Not every commit ends up contributing to the team on the field; it happens.

There always seems to be few extra scholarships open up at the end of the year.

It's not a complete waste, but you can't win with a team full of guys like Nicco ... a couple is ok though.

TexasDomer
05-16-2014, 04:30 PM
With prior coaches, we lamented their being too selective in trying to hit 3-4-5* athletes and leaving scholarships unclaimed. Now we lament one that appears, based on a highlight reel, to not be a big get when we are still a couple of scholies short of the limit.

I think the staff know very well this kid's strengths and limitations, and I think BK has done a better job of balancing quality and quantity than anyone since Holtz. Even if this kid never cracks the two-deep, he is providing needed depth. They can't all be world-beaters.

polishdomer
05-16-2014, 04:51 PM
I guess it comes up if his dad is a billionaire, cant he be just a walk on and give a scholarship to those of us not part of the Forbes 50?

HoffVir
05-16-2014, 05:34 PM
I guess it comes up if his dad is a billionaire, cant he be just a walk on and give a scholarship to those of us not part of the Forbes 50?

Potentially being a preferred walk on was mentioned before. Don't know if it would happen now.

isotopes
05-16-2014, 06:32 PM
Yeah, but couldn 't we have said thst for Golic's kids, Robinson or a bunch of other kids? At the end of the day this kid is a special teamer. If an ST guy not being a 5* ruins your day, lower your standards back to reality.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiRGRvE_Wqg&sns=em

irishnd31
05-16-2014, 09:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxhR98awKlE"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxhR98awKlE

LOVEMYIRISH
05-16-2014, 11:02 PM
With prior coaches, we lamented their being too selective in trying to hit 3-4-5* athletes and leaving scholarships unclaimed. Now we lament one that appears, based on a highlight reel, to not be a big get when we are still a couple of scholies short of the limit.

I think the staff know very well this kid's strengths and limitations, and I think BK has done a better job of balancing quality and quantity than anyone since Holtz. Even if this kid never cracks the two-deep, he is providing needed depth. They can't all be world-beaters.
Uh...no.

We never lament trying to get the best guys. We lament not making enough offers.

Getting 2 star talent is not ok. It's ONLY ok if you happen to find that one guy who is the best 2-star because he was mis-evaluated. That is clearly NOT the case here.

LOVEMYIRISH
05-16-2014, 11:02 PM
Yeah, but couldn 't we have said thst for Golic's kids, Robinson or a bunch of other kids? At the end of the day this kid is a special teamer. If an ST guy not being a 5* ruins your day, lower your standards back to reality.

Actually, we did say this for Jake Golic.

pmarrack
05-16-2014, 11:26 PM
Getting 2 star talent is not ok.

Implying a commit who is rated as a 3 star by everybody is a 2 star talent ain't that great either.

BlakeJ
05-19-2014, 03:48 PM
Implying a commit who is rated as a 3 star by everybody is a 2 star talent ain't that great either.

3 star commits turning into 2 star talent happens very often. Happens all the time at ND if we are being honest with ourselves.

JDriveSthND
05-19-2014, 04:27 PM
It's not that unusual to keep growing at 17+ years old. That said, this situation does seem to suggest preferred walk-on status.

I agree with this. I understand that the kid's dad is a billionaire, but that seems like the perfect excuse to say to Nicco and his dad, "Hey look, we really want you to come play at Notre Dame, but we want you to do so as a preferred walk-on, so we can keep a scholarship open for a student who needs it."

polishdomer
05-19-2014, 07:22 PM
What he said...

HoffVir
05-19-2014, 09:03 PM
Every class needs a whipping boy; ND has theirs.

pmarrack
05-19-2014, 11:06 PM
3 star commits turning into 2 star talent happens very often. Happens all the time at ND if we are being honest with ourselves.

Except LOVEMYIRISH, in the post to which I was responding, talked about the possibility of supposedly 2 star players being better than the evaluators thought, and denied that was the case with Fertitta. In that situation, I see no plausible reading other than that LOVEMYIRISH is saying Fertitta is being evaluated as a 2 star prospect. But Fertitta is in fact being evaluated as a three star prospect by Rivals, by 247 Sports, by Scout.com, and by ESPN RecruitingNation. So, as far as I can see, the original post was just wrong.

LOVEMYIRISH
05-20-2014, 03:30 PM
Except LOVEMYIRISH, in the post to which I was responding, talked about the possibility of supposedly 2 star players being better than the evaluators thought, and denied that was the case with Fertitta. In that situation, I see no plausible reading other than that LOVEMYIRISH is saying Fertitta is being evaluated as a 2 star prospect. But Fertitta is in fact being evaluated as a three star prospect by Rivals, by 247 Sports, by Scout.com, and by ESPN RecruitingNation. So, as far as I can see, the original post was just wrong.

Dude, he gets a 3-star rating then nearly everyone who sees him on tape wonders if that rating is too high. I agree, he might well be a solid 3-star...but it's worrying as hell that the guy has his best offer as AZ and ND Homers who usually add a star just by getting an ND offer are wondering WTF is he doing with an offer.

isotopes
05-20-2014, 04:40 PM
Crossroads Project = $400 million
Dad = $1.2 Billion
1/85th of ND scholarships = 3* special team player

The math makes sense to me.

polishdomer
05-20-2014, 04:58 PM
Isotopes, you forgot to carry the 1 and then take the square root of Kelly's office and multiply it by # of Atkinsons remaining

pmarrack
05-20-2014, 08:16 PM
Dude, he gets a 3-star rating then nearly everyone who sees him on tape wonders if that rating is too high. I agree, he might well be a solid 3-star...but it's worrying as hell that the guy has his best offer as AZ and ND Homers who usually add a star just by getting an ND offer are wondering WTF is he doing with an offer.
OK, that I can agree with.

marv81s
05-20-2014, 09:30 PM
http://replygif.net/i/915.gif

BlakeJ
05-21-2014, 11:41 AM
Except LOVEMYIRISH, in the post to which I was responding, talked about the possibility of supposedly 2 star players being better than the evaluators thought, and denied that was the case with Fertitta. In that situation, I see no plausible reading other than that LOVEMYIRISH is saying Fertitta is being evaluated as a 2 star prospect. But Fertitta is in fact being evaluated as a three star prospect by Rivals, by 247 Sports, by Scout.com, and by ESPN RecruitingNation. So, as far as I can see, the original post was just wrong.

5'9" 172 lb Safety that runs a 4.55 40.

He is probably a 1 or 2 star athlete thats getting a 3rd star because he plays for a national recognized program in Bishop.

I'm looking at the list of the other programs interested in him. Not much there.

Looks like a wasted scholly to me.

jbrown_9999
05-21-2014, 05:13 PM
5'9" 172 lb Safety that runs a 4.55 40.

He is probably a 1 or 2 star athlete thats getting a 3rd star because he plays for a national recognized program in Bishop.

I'm looking at the list of the other programs interested in him. Not much there.

Looks like a wasted scholly to me.

Calling him a one star is probably a little bit of hyperbole. Not too many high football players actually run a 4.55 forty.

He is probably being ranked a three star based on 1) multi-year starter on a national recognized program 2) decent to good showing at camps and 3) 40 time (even if it is high school hand timed).

He does have offers from multiple BCS schools which can help support a three star rating. Given that they are lower tier programs, one can debate two versus three stars but to claim he is one star talent is being unreasonable.

At the end of the day, the coaches have not been hesitant about recruiting players strictly as preferred walk-ons. For Fertitta to have received an actionable offer this early, they must see something that they like about him. Perhaps his football instincts allow him to play faster/bigger than he really is.

BlakeJ
05-22-2014, 01:04 PM
Calling him a one star is probably a little bit of hyperbole. Not too many high football players actually run a 4.55 forty.

He is probably being ranked a three star based on 1) multi-year starter on a national recognized program 2) decent to good showing at camps and 3) 40 time (even if it is high school hand timed).

He does have offers from multiple BCS schools which can help support a three star rating. Given that they are lower tier programs, one can debate two versus three stars but to claim he is one star talent is being unreasonable.

At the end of the day, the coaches have not been hesitant about recruiting players strictly as preferred walk-ons. For Fertitta to have received an actionable offer this early, they must see something that they like about him. Perhaps his football instincts allow him to play faster/bigger than he really is.

I of course hope you are right....but it usually doesnt end well when you're small, light, and not exceptionally fast.

LOVEMYIRISH
05-22-2014, 01:32 PM
I of course hope you are right....but it usually doesnt end well when you're small, light, and not exceptionally fast.

I bet he's got lots of heart and is a P90X badass though!!! That always improves the team photo...

That being said, he's likely a 3-star that could make it at a second tier school. His offers reflect that. Then again, he could surprise us all and be a stud. However, the react to getting him a scholarship from the recruiting services was not generally positive... It's one thing to say "he'll add depth" and it's another to say "I am not sure what the coaches saw in him, but maybe we all missed something."

OR...he could have the same pictures of Kelly in bed with Diaco that Bruce Heggie had!!!

j/k

Purebred Irishman
02-04-2015, 10:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgb28u6-q5o

zimmsbg78
02-04-2015, 10:41 AM
Fax is in

irishunclebill
02-04-2015, 03:51 PM
Irish Illustrated @PeteSampson_

Kelly said Nicco Fertitta will make an impact right away, points to his toughness and attitude being infectious.