'09 KS RB Bryce Brown (Tennessee LOI)/Transfer to Kansas State

[Svoboda]

Running back
Wichita (KS) East

Ht: 6-foot-0
Wt: 200 lbs

Star Ratings
Rivals.com: *****
Scout.com: *****

Rankings & Accolades
Rivals 100 #9/ #2 Running Back
Scout 100 #2/ #1 Running Back


Schools of Interest
Florida
Florida State
Kansas
Kansas State
Michigan
Nebraska
Notre Dame
Oklahoma
Texas A&M
USC

[Svoboda]

http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/BRYCEBROWN3_30200.JPG

[Svoboda]

Bryce is the brother of 2008 five-star LB prospect Arthur Brown.

[loweND]

I heard that Bryce and Arthur are both looking for different things. Bryce is supposedly looking for a school that offers strong academics. Hopefully, this means he'll consider ND because early reports suggest he's going to be the number 1 player in the country next year.

[IrishKnight1023]

I heard that Bryce and Arthur are both looking for different things. Bryce is supposedly looking for a school that offers strong academics. Hopefully, this means he'll consider ND because early reports suggest he's going to be the number 1 player in the country next year.

------Brendan Beal was basing his decision strongly on academics too. You see what I'm getting at?

[loweND]

Yeah, most recruits are full of it when they talk about academics. But, this isn't something Bryce Brown has said - it's actually something I heard either Mike Farrell or Jeremy Crabtree (can't remember) saying about him.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Is that guy like 20?? He doesn't look like most of the high schoolers I see in Cincy.

[fighting doug]

check out his highlights on youtube this kid looks insane

[Svoboda]

You can embed his YouTube video in this thread, or post a link and I'll do it for you.

[Pete]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gHqJy32E04

[Pete]

QgcFRW256CY

[KamaraPolice]

I've got two words: "You can't run backwards in college"

[bc525]

Ya', he runs with a forward lean that just spells bruiser...he brings headaches!

[rontdtarchala]

I want both of them...would somone please get me both of those young men

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I'm calling Paris and Nicole right now.

[IrishKnight1023]

I'm calling Paris and Nicole right now.

-------Nicole is pregnennnttt

[rontdtarchala]

LMAO you go people!!!!...although both of them kinda give me the creeps, it'd be like nawing on a freekin bone...gotta have a woman with some meat on her bones so you can smack her....ok under control again...

[stonebreakerwasgod]

-------Nicole is pregnennnttt


Oh, Maybe we'll see a little stoney come out. Tall, dark, and..oh, who are we kidding.

[IrishCalves]

LMAO you go people!!!!...although both of them kinda give me the creeps, it'd be like nawing on a freekin bone...gotta have a woman with some meat on her bones so you can smack her....ok under control again...

Yeah... just be careful there... I think theres at least one female poster out there, so lets keep that in mind.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

He simply meant the buttocks, not like goin' Rick James on the lady.
Uh oh, this thread has been hijacked...back to business boys.

[fighting doug]

I'm still a rookie sorry , but how about this kid he looks like a senior. His level of competition will be his only question mark.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

He looks like he's a fraternity brother. No pun intended. He looks like a punisher.

[untitledproject]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0706/gallery.where.will.they.be/content.2.html

Bryce and Arthur were on SI's list of 'Where Will They Be'

[rontdtarchala]

I want them at ND people!!

[Svoboda]

Bryce Brown, a junior running back at Wichita East High School, just might be something Wichita never has seen, Rivals.com recruiting editor Jeremy Crabtree says. That includes Hall of Famer Barry Sanders.

“He may be the best ever to come out of Wichita. That’s saying a lot, but it’s not hyperbole,” said Crabtree, adding that Brown isn’t talking much about recruiting, although he will have his pick.

Brown’s brother, Arthur, is a senior linebacker who is making unofficial visits to places such as Florida, LSU and Alabama. Kansas State and Kansas also are in the mix.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/199827.html

[Fishin'_Irish]

One thing I noticed in his highlights is that he never showboated, at all. Good sport, as well as a good player.

[mlcspinner]

I jsut watched the film WOW thanks pete for that. did it say 26 tds in 9 games

[Fishin'_Irish]

I jsut watched the film WOW thanks pete for that. did it say 26 tds in 9 games

Yeah, that's fricken' nuts. Anyone know why he only played 9 games?

[mlcspinner]

Yeah, that's fricken' nuts. Anyone know why he only played 9 games?


not sure about that but the yardage was off the charts too. What kind of competition does he play ??

[irish4]

does anyone know if he has interest in the irish?

[IrishCalves]

Until the written offers start to come out, its usually a crap shoot as to what interest a prospect who just finished their sophomore year has in schools. Either the kid is politically correct about 60 or so schools, or he advertises that there's one school he'd sell his soul for. If his recruitment is anything like his brother's, I'd suspect he's playing it like the former. Arthur had 22 schools he was "interested" in, but we all know that Miami, USC, and OU have excellent shots at Arthur. They're both being handled by the same player agent/advisor, so I'd suspect Bryce will follow his brother's path, of a systematic college decision.

So yes, Bryce is almost assuredly "interested", but he's also probably interested in ND along with every other BCS Conference school. Too early to tell with regards to ND.

[NDisNCin2010]

ND Staff + recruits with agents/caravans/bus tours/handlers=bad fit from the get go.

neither A or B Brown are coming here to ND, nor am i upset about it.

the only Brown we should concern ourselves with recruiting wise is Corwin Brown.

Thats MR. Corwin Brown....

[Fishin'_Irish]

I'll be honest, I wouldn't mind Bryce coming to ND.

[irish4]

me either

[irishunclebill]

Profile Updated to add Schools of Interest.

Bryce received more than 50 letters from schools right after the September 1 open to the 2008 recruiting season. He said most of the letters contained written scholarship offers. On the same weekend that his brother eliminated the Irish from consideration, Rivals has included ND as one of Bryce's college choices which is somewhat interesting because also according to Rivals Bryce has already received offers from all of the schools on that college choice list except Notre Dame.

[JMR8]

I very much want him. Add Carlton Thomas this year and Bryce Brown next year. And you have Aldridge, Allen, Hughes, Thomas, and Brown. Amazing Backfield!

[IRISH52]

Wouldn't it be nice to get Arthur Brown this year and Bryce Brown next year. Bryce Brown will get at least 50 schooly offers next year.

[NDGirlzRock]

What about Campanaro.....or do we see him more on the defensive side of the ball?

[ALBUQUERQUEIRISHFAN]

Brown would be my # 1 choice at RB for 2009. He's better than his brother.

[Ricochet]

Brown would be my # 1 choice at RB for 2009. He's better than his brother.What I've seen is pretty special but people who have seen ND RB recruit Cierre Wood say he's in the extremely special category as well.

[irishunclebill]

What I've seen is pretty special but people who have seen seen ND RB recruit Cierre Wood say he's in the extremely special category.

ND will have an almost impossible task in recruiting both Wood and Brown. Theo Riddick is a more realistic target for the Irish at this point.

[Ricochet]

ND will have an almost impossible task in recruiting both Wood and Brown. Theo Riddick is a more realistic target for the Irish at this point.I agree but from what I hear it's not a lost cause with Wood. I just don't see Brown happening at all.

[Rockne's Revenge]

I live in Wichita (hometown of Bryce Brown) and I would say it would be a longshot to land him in South Bend. I keep hearing that the family is going to move down to Miami to be closer to Arthur since he just committed to the Hurricanes. It sounds like the family wants to stay together. I don't remember the name of the school Bryce might attend down there for his senior year, but it is supposed to have one heck of a football team. I think he is going to be very good, but the comparison saying he might be better than Barry Sanders is ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see him in an Irish uniform, but IMHO Sanders was maybe one of the top 2 or 3 running backs ever.

[ALBUQUERQUEIRISHFAN]

One of the top players in the country next year and he doesn't have an offer yet. We should have offered him first. It's not like the ND staff doesn't know about him. I'd like to know what the wait is for.

[stew654]

Following his bro to the U. Should be transfering to high school in miami.

[Flyin_Irish]

stew's right...Bryce will probably play HS in Miami to follow Arthur.

[GoldenShower]

Albuquerue,
I am completely against Bryce Brown ever getting an offer. Aside from the family's subscription to the recruiting service and the way Arthur handled programs such as Oklahoma and Kansas State, I think Bryce is far from the "character" guys that Charlie recruits. Bryce will talk about education and keeping his options opened. Then he'll hold every major program hostage with a drawn-out recruting process where he dictates all the rules, schedule a major announcement at Witchita's city hall, and pull some jack-ass new hat stunt.

Sorry, I don't know the kid nor his family. What I do read is how he recently is holding his high school hostage by saying he's going to compete at another Witchita high school or move down to Miami to be near his brother. Any high school junior who is making a major stink about where he's going to play his senior high school season borders arrogant. ND does NOT need him.

[irishunclebill]

One of the top players in the country next year and he doesn't have an offer yet. We should have offered him first. It's not like the ND staff doesn't know about him. I'd like to know what the wait is for.

ND might offer Bryce Brown, but they probably will not even bother for three reasons.

1) Arthur Brown picked Miami.
2) It has long been rumored that Bryce would follow him to whatever school he chose.
3) To bolster that rumor, it appears the Brown family is moving to Miami for Bryce's senior year in high school.

If the Brown's do not move to Miami, then you might see an offer, if they do, why bother.

[Sureal]

Either way I wouldn't bother.

[cman1787]

i'd focus on Cierre Wood

[ALBUQUERQUEIRISHFAN]

No love for Brice Brown? Wow.

[daytonirish]

No chance = no love.

[cman1787]

No love for Brice Brown? Wow.

great player, but too much of a headcase imo.

[Flyin_Irish]

Great player, couldn't comment on the head case part (don't want to compare him to his brother unfairly), but we probably would have an incredibly slim chance at landing him.

[Axl Rose]

The RB's I want for 09 are

Beau Blankenship-I really like his highlight video on rivals
Theo Riddick
Edwin Baker

[irishunclebill]

It would be a surprise to me since Bryce has already eliminated ND from consideration, but according to the B&G database, Bryce Brown has an ND offer. This could be a simple clerical error so I'll wait a few days before listing him on the GH offer sheet.

[daytonirish]

IUB I had nothing to do with that being posted on B&G database. I save all my delusions for you. :D

[IrishKnight1023]

Committed to Miami today.

[irishunclebill]

Committed to Miami today.

A Shocker!:rolleyes:

[daytonirish]

Say it aint so IUB. WHO IS GOING TO BE MY SURPRISE COMMIT NOW

:p :eek: :eek: :p

[irishunclebill]

Say it aint so IUB. WHO IS GOING TO BE MY SURPRISE COMMIT NOW

:p :eek: :eek: :p

Why not Arthur?

[daytonirish]

I haven't given up on him yet.

[notredomer23]

I haven't given up on him yet.

We'll reel him in. patience

[daytonirish]

We got 5 years baby. I'm not giving up until 2013.

[irishdan123084]

Brown said to Rivals that he is ''truly committed.'' He also said he might take trips to Ohio State and West Virginia.

So if I'm "truly committed" to my girlfriend---a few other dates are okay right?

[daytonirish]

The way some of these kids change their commitments, it doesn't surprise me that he says he might take other visits.

[ndcufan]

regardless of if he stays true to his word, the fact that he is only a junior and already tentatively knows where he's going to school/play football and there are some seniors who are a couple months away from graduation (cough terrelle pryor) and they still haven't signed anywhere astounds me.

[marv81s]

considering his bro is going to Miami, I would be shocked if he changes his commitment on this.


someone is really going to have to show him a good time, no, a great time at another school. I like whole sorority house would have to cater to him and show him a good time the whole weekend for him to switch from Miami. I wouldn't be suprised if he committed the same day as his bro.

[daytonirish]

He and his mom moved down there after Arthur commited. He isn't going anywhere but the U.

[irishdan123084]

He and his mom moved down there after Arthur commited. He isn't going anywhere but the U.

I don't think he moved yet. I thought he was still in high school in Kansas. Remember the semester doesn't end for another 2 months and I don't know which high school would accept his Kansas high school credits this late in the school year. Speaking of which, I would like to now which high school he is going to attend in Miami for his senior year.

[notredomer23]

I don't think he moved yet. I thought he was still in high school in Kansas. Remember the semester doesn't end for another 2 months and I don't know which high school would accept his Kansas high school credits this late in the school year. Speaking of which, I would like to now which high school he is going to attend in Miami for his senior year.

i hope northwestern

[daytonirish]

It doesn't matter when he moves. It has been reported shortly after Arthur commited to Miami that mom, Arthue, and Bryce were moving to Miami. And as far as which school district would allow that to happen, I would guess a whole lot of them in every state. Think about it you got all these div.1 universities that belong to the ncaa and agree to abide by the rules. Yeah that works out real well doesn't it ?

[NDisNCin2010]

well looks like that adviser/svengali guy down in Kansas needs to get a day job now with the Brown Brothers and Harper decisions finalized...his 3 gravy trains have left the station.

[irishunclebill]

Profile Updated with Rivals & Scout 100 Ranking , Position Ranking, and Star Rating.

[irishunclebill]

Profile Updated with Latest Rivals 100 Ranking.

[irishunclebill]

Update- Bryce never did move to Miami. His commit to the "U" is also now considered soft because he has scheduled visits to Mizzou, and Clemson, and according to his guru will also visit Oregon and Purdue. There are also rumblings that big brother is not happy at the "U" and if Bryce ends up de-committing Miami, Arthur may be out the door as well.

I can't believe the Purdue part is for real. Actually even though Mizzou is on a roll right now, all 4 of the schools that he is allegedly looking at besides Miami are not exactly the cream of the crop of the CFB world.

[stew654]

Im to lazy to look it up, has arthur brown seen any meaninful minutes? starting? bryce to purdue would be quite the coo considering...also with tiller out the door.

[marv81s]

negative, he isn't listed on their depth chart either

[zimmsbg78]

http://www.kansas.com/sports/wildcats/story/656702.html


Southern California today, Kansas State on Saturday. The recruitment of East High running back Bryce Brown deepens.

A member of the USC coaching staff will visit Brown today, said Brian Butler, Brown's adviser.

Brown will then visit K-State on Saturday, taking in the Big 12 basketball opener between the Wildcats and No. 6 Oklahoma and visiting with members of K-State's football staff.

Last weekend in San Antonio, Brown was named U.S. Army national Player of the Year and was co-MVP of the Army All-American Bowl.

Brown, who will be joined by his father and Butler in Manhattan, has orally committed to Miami (Fla.), but said last week in San Antonio that he was down to the Hurricanes and Oregon.

Now, Butler says a "few more schools" are involved, obviously including K-State and USC.

"It's all business," Butler said. "Things change. Why not take a look around? He's the No. 1 player in the country. There's no rush.... Look at Terrelle Pryor last year with Ohio State."

Last year, Pryor delayed his decision to attend Ohio State instead of Michigan and Penn State until March. Asked if that meant Brown might not sign a letter of intent on Feb. 4 and take his time with a decision, Butler said, "That's a possibility."

Bryce has said in a recent video interview that Oregon (verbal to Miami) is his current No. # 1. This one seem's that it is far from over.

[ndcufan]

http://www.kansas.com/sports/wildcats/story/656702.html



Bryce has said in a recent video interview that Oregon (verbal to Miami) is his current No. # 1. This one seem's that it is far from over.

i really like the part where he says it's all business and, go figure, sc is involved

[rontdtarchala]

no kiddin... man we gotta really move up the charts this year or our recruiting is going to go south big time... jmo but I'll bet I'm right....

[IrishGrizz]

"....it's all business."

u$c has a bigger budget for offers.....

[NDgrandson]

no kiddin... man we gotta really move up the charts this year or our recruiting is going to go south big time... jmo but I'll bet I'm right....

Sammich!

Last year we were #1, next year we could very well be #1. Only USC and Florida do it consistently. It takes special kids to qualify for ND, be good enough, tolerate the weather (and chicks) and come in the year after (and hopefully before) one the the top 5 players at thier position in the country.

All things considered, I'll take it. Wished we could have snagged a couple that went elsewhere. If we get Manti... wow.

[zimmsbg78]

Brian Buter (Brown's mentor) says that Brown had a great visit to K-State and that U$C and Tennessee have also been back in touch recently. Bryce's plan is to go to Miami on his last official visit, but he wants to see who they hire as an OC before he does anything.

[IrishGrizz]

Tell him that Ty W is coming down to Miami tobe the OC. THen watch him run screaming to KState. :nanana:

[SpanishElite]

If this kid waits till after NSD im going to be pissed. This better not be a trend starting.

[Griff Cannon]

http://www.wearesc.com/media/images/article/1231896454.jpg
I knew going to the suc board would eventually pay off

[zimmsbg78]

Uh oh Spanish.......TP part II............

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/onthetrail


Bryce Brown in no rush to make final decision
The nation's No. 2-rated running back spoke with ESPN affiliate Web site InsideTheU.com about the current status of his recruitment.

Brown reaffirmed that despite being a Hurricanes' commitment, the Ducks are on top, "Oregon is still my leader."

Miami's vacancy at offensive coordinator also looks like it could cause Brown to remained unsigned as national signing day passes, "That's looking like the plan I will take. I don't have a date set, but it's looking like it will go past signing day."

[ND Fanatic]

another twist....

http://www.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=905423

[irishunclebill]

The Brown Brother's mentor=

http://i43.tinypic.com/a1tu2p.jpg

[ndcufan]

i live in the state, but who vacations in nebraska? honestly

[Griff Cannon]

http://www.therangerstation.com/forums/images/smilies/trs_smilies_signs/attention_whore.gif

And for only $9.95 you too can get monthly updates on his status

[zimmsbg78]

http://www.therangerstation.com/forums/images/smilies/trs_smilies_signs/attention_whore.gif

And for only $9.95 you too can get monthly updates on his status

I thought this was hilarious ............

http://www.collegefootballtalk.com/2009/01/29/only-three-takers-for-bryce-brown-recruiting-updates/


Posted by Keith Arnold on January 29, 2009, 7:50 p.m. EST

As we reported earlier in the week, Bryce Brown, the highly touted prep running back, who is guided by controversial "mentor" Brian Butler, made waves when Butler announced he'd be charging $9.99 a month for updates on the star running backs progress as he decides on a college. :rofl:

Today, ESPN.com senior writer Bruce Feldman caught up with Butler and tried to make heads or tails of Butler, his relationship with Brown, and his business of preparing high school athletes for college football.

Feldman was quick to point out to Butler that the distinction between being a non-profit organization, as Potential Players purports to be, and charging people - athletes, coaches, and fans - to interact with his company "feeds into the suspicion many people have about 'advisors' and blue-chip recruits."

Butler quickly stepped around that question, claiming that the fees aren't part of his non-profit business, but a separate business (hmm? yeah, right) that he's started.
A business that as of Thursday morning, had only three subscribers.

It's good to see in a world where millions of dollars have been made turning the recruiting process into an information industry, that only thirty bucks of it has seen Brian Butler's pockets.


http://www.collegefootballtalk.com/2009/02/01/top-recruit-on-fast-track-to-a-decision/


Posted by John Taylor on February 1, 2009, 11:36 a.m. EST

Some high school recruits lean heavily on their parents and/or coaches when deciding on which college to attend.

Some rely on advisors who who are heavily in-tune to the recruiting game.

Some rely on their faith to guide their decision.

(Others, of course, rely on the tried-and-true method of chicks-per-capita times the nighttime "atmosphere" equals "that's my school", but that's another story for another day.)

Bryce Brown, on the other hand, is using a combination of all three. Particularly, and especially, the latter.

Brown, the consensus top-rated recruit in the nation, has yet to make a decision on where he will attend, although he has given a "soft" verbal commitment to Miami (Fla.). And he won't make a decision until he undergoes a faith-based fast that will last anywhere from one to two weeks.

The fast will consist of the Wichita, Kansas, running back living on nothing but water, tomato soup, vegetable juice and protein beverages for the duration of the ritual.

"The fasting makes you more sensitive and isolates you from everyday things," Brown's father, Arthur Sr., told the Miami Herald. "When you spend time with God in his world, you're letting yourself be guided by the spiritual nature and asking the Holy Spirit to help reveal the decision." :ziplip:

While some may scoff at the way the younger Brown is going about making his decision, and the length of time it's taking him to make the decision - he's not expected to make a decision on National Signing Day Tuesday and the process could go deep into the month of March - in the end it's still his decision.

Probably the biggest decision he'll make in his young life.

He has every right to go about this process whatever way he and his "team" deem appropriate. Regardless of what the recruiting "experts", media and fans of the various institutions involved think about his prolonged process.

[SpanishElite]

Ugh. Im so tired of this kid and his handler. I wonder if B. Brown knows that this guy is making money off his recruitment, and he isnt going to see any of it.

[Akron Irish]

You think they'll split the 29.85 he made on his site (w/3 members)

[JGESS]

and the circus will continue... but for what??

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/04/sports/ncaafootball/04recruit.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&h

[JGESS]

Butler on himself:


“I’m doing a dang good job,” Butler said. “I know that I’m the most connected guy in Wichita and probably in Kansas. Probably in the Midwest, and let some people tell, probably in the dang nation when it comes to high school recruiting.”

[morrdave9]

What a tool

[Doomsday Device]

Don't expect him to go away after Brown commits either. He also handles one of the potential 5 star QBs for 2010, Blake Bell out of Wichita. I don't really understand why Bell's family is using this guy since his dad and uncle are ex-NFLers and should have enough connections to not need this tool.

[JGESS]

who has Butler handled in the past that turned out to be a success thus giving him credibility?

[irishunclebill]

Don't expect him to go away after Brown commits either. He also handles one of the potential 5 star QBs for 2010, Blake Bell out of Wichita. I don't really understand why Bell's family is using this guy since his dad and uncle are ex-NFLers and should have enough connections to not need this tool.

Bell especially will suffer because of this. He has a genuine interest in ND and it could very well be that ND will not reciprocate that interest because of this guy.

[IrishKnight1023]

bell especially will suffer because of this. He has a genuine interest in nd and it could very well be that nd will not reciprocate that interest because of this guy.

good

[Griff Cannon]

The newest rumor I have heard has the kid going to the CFL instead of college. I am guessing he would then go into the NFL draft after 3 years.

I give no credibility to the rumor but it is funny none the less

[NDisNCin2010]

is he visiting USC now????

[ndcufan]

someone may want to check this, but i'm pretty sure sc doesn't have a $4-5M cap.

[NDGirlzRock]

http://brahsome.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/kenpagedollars.jpg

He could always go to Clemson and get paid early!!!!!!!

[laxkid23]

How did those pictures even get out?

[stew654]

how did nothing ever come of it

[NotreDameNate]

Is that Bryce?

[NDGirlzRock]

Nope that's Kenneth Page the OL recruit from 08!

[mlcspinner]

http://brahsome.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/kenpagedollars.jpg

He could always go to Clemson and get paid early!!!!!!!


he most have mowed a 100 lawns for that stack

[Win4Gipper]

That is nuts... what is the story behind that?

[ndcufan]

i think he was selling and/or washing cars and miracolously there was a spike in car sells

[eric_navy]

That is nuts... what is the story behind that?

I think the explanation that circulated at the time was an uncle who owns/operates a few ATMs. He was riding around with him to fill them up and took the picture then. At least that's what a few people seemed to think.

[IrishEagle]

Don't expect him to go away after Brown commits either. He also handles one of the potential 5 star QBs for 2010, Blake Bell out of Wichita. I don't really understand why Bell's family is using this guy since his dad and uncle are ex-NFLers and should have enough connections to not need this tool.
Blake Bell has no ties with Brian Butler that go beyond having met him. Blake is not associated with his group, nor plans to. Blake has excellant support from his family and also happens to play for one of the most respected coaches here in Kansas. I know the family and the coach and I'm confident that Blake is in good hands without the services of Mr. Butler.

[morrdave9]

Do you know if Bell has any interest in ND?

[IrishEagle]

Do you know if Bell has any interest in ND?
Not really sure on his level of interest. The question has really been if ND had any interest in him. Anyway, this should probablly move to his thread. I just wanted to clear up that he is not represented by Mr. Butler.

[zimmsbg78]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/onthetrail This is also being reported on Canesport (Rival's Miami site). I APPLAUD YOU COACH SHANNON!!!!!!!


Bryce Brown's Miami offer to "expire" Wednesday
Miami's scholarship offer to Bryce Brown is set to expire Wednesday and the Hurricanes will not be issuing another offer, according to the Associated Press.

The source spoke on condition of anonymity and stated plainly, "Miami will not give him another letter."

Brown's camp was unaware of any expiration date and maintains the highly-sought running back would not change his March 16th announcement date.

Despite the recent happenings and a long list of other potential suitors, including Auburn, Kansas State, Oregon, Tennessee and USC, Brown still considers himself a Miami commitment.

[Pete]

Despite the recent happenings and a long list of other potential suitors, including Auburn, Kansas State, Oregon, Tennessee and USC, Brown still considers himself a Miami commitment.

Throughout this whole thing, the bold part has always been my favorite.

[IrishKnight1023]

If these coaches had a pair they'd all do this so little maggots like this can't play games with their agents.

[IrishGrizz]

To me its all good cause it is messin w Miami. I am glad we are not a part of this circus.

[Griff Cannon]

To me its all good cause it is messin w Miami. I am glad we are not a part of this circus.

Miami doesn't look to be playing along anymore, his offer to Miami will expire on Wed, not clear on if that is this week or next week


Bryce Brown's Miami offer to "expire" Wednesday
Miami's scholarship offer to Bryce Brown is set to expire Wednesday and the Hurricanes will not be issuing another offer, according to the Associated Press.

The source spoke on condition of anonymity and stated plainly, "Miami will not give him another letter."

Brown's camp was unaware of any expiration date and maintains the highly-sought running back would not change his March 16th announcement date.

Despite the recent happenings and a long list of other potential suitors, including Auburn, Kansas State, Oregon, Tennessee and USC, Brown still considers himself a Miami commitment.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/onthetrail

[irishunclebill]

Miami doesn't look to be playing along anymore, his offer to Miami will expire on Wed, not clear on if that is this week or next week



http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/onthetrail

LOL- I'm happy to see my posts aren't the only one's you are ignoring Griff. :nanana:

See Post #118.

[NotreDameNate]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/11394937

This just bother's me to no end. I hope this is not going to be the norm in the future. Just reading this article makes me want to puke. I don't know why Bryce can't handle this himself. Why does this Butler guy speak for him? It almost sounds like an agent representing Bryce.

[IrishKnight1023]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/11394937

This just bother's me to no end. I hope this is not going to be the norm in the future. Just reading this article makes me want to puke. I don't know why Bryce can't handle this himself. Why does this Butler guy speak for him? It almost sounds like an agent representing Bryce.

He is an agent they just can't use that title because it's illegal. He's not doing this for fun, he's expecting a big payoff down the road. I don't see him "advising" the scrubs in the area.

[stew654]

the football signing period ends April 1.

"That's not even an issue for me," Butler said.....just weird...

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/11394937

[NotreDameNate]

Bryce should be careful having this guy talking for you. You know the NCAA will be looking hard at this relationship and if they find any kind of "foul" play, boom, there goes college for you. Bryce might want to consider keeping this guy in the background because what's next? Having Butler handle all of your press conferences in college as well, lol?

[IrishKnight1023]

Bryce should be careful having this guy talking for you. You know the NCAA will be looking hard at this relationship and if they find any kind of "foul" play, boom, there goes college for you. Bryce might want to consider keeping this guy in the background because what's next? Having Butler handle all of your press conferences in college as well, lol?

If they didn't find something to pin on his bro Arthur It won't happen. I doubt they are looking either. If he's not getting paid then it's not illegal, but that's just a legal loophole.

[zimmsbg78]

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/colleges/um/story/917689.html


Top national football recruit Bryce Brown will continue his well-orchestrated plan for choosing a college to attend, his father, Arthur Brown Sr., said Monday.

But because the University of Miami apparently is losing interest in the running back, Arthur Sr. said, the Browns are ''leaning heavily'' toward making this weekend's trip to LSU the player's final official recruiting trip.

Arthur Sr. said a UM assistant coach called him and Bryce on Thursday afternoon at separate times to relay the school's concerns.

''They said they were very, very concerned about the media circus around his recruitment,'' Arthur Sr. told The Miami Herald. ``I think they pretty much wanted him to make a decision immediately without him going through his plan. Bryce told them he would have to talk to his family about that and that we would call back at 7 p.m. Thursday.

``We called back at 7 p.m. and left messages with [running backs coach] Tommie Robinson and Randy Shannon. We told Coach Shannon on the message that going through his original plan and that Miami is in that plan and he would take his visits as planned and make his decision March 16.''

Way to go coach Shannon


Does Arthur Sr. interpret UM's lack of response as a loss of interest in Bryce?

''Pretty much,'' he said. ``But unless it comes from Coach Shannon, it's all rumor and speculation.

[B]``In all fairness to Coach Shannon, I have to kind of say I understand where they're coming from. This thing has turned into something we never anticipated.''

Good morning Mr. Brown, I see you finally woke up.

[SouthernIrish]

whatever. This guy sounds like trouble and personally I wouldn't want anyone like this on my team regardless of talent (which he obviously has.). Besides, he'd probably only be there for 1-2 years anyway before leaving for the NFL.

[IrishKnight1023]

He hasn't woken up to anything if he had or has another young d1 kid he'd do the same thing and have some strange dude/agent up in his kids shit.

[Svoboda]

If they didn't find something to pin on his bro Arthur It won't happen. I doubt they are looking either. If he's not getting paid then it's not illegal, but that's just a legal loophole.
Arthur's recruitment was nothing like this. Additionally, I'd be more worried about them finding out he is taking cash to fund his Potential Prospects gig from boosters of programs around the country in exchange for, oh, I don't know... a gentle push of Bryce towards their program.

There's a hole in the bucket, dear Eliza.

[marv81s]

not sure why, but when i think of this guys' recruitment i can hear the voice of an auctionere in the background

[irishunclebill]

I assume that Rivals decided to make this article free so we could all be enthralled with Brian Butler and Bryce Brown. My reaction to it was to resist the urge to hurl. Must have something to do with the BB initials, that's the only reason I can come up with as to why these 2 characters continue to try to make a show out of this.

http://rivals100.rivals.com/content.asp?cid=922242


March 10, 2009


Jeremy Crabtree
Recruiting Editor

Prospects use different ways to come up with a decision. Some turn to their high school coaches. Some look to their parents and friends for guidance. But Bryce Brown, the No. 1 player in the class of 2009, will use a more spiritual approach.

When he announces his decision at 1 p.m. Monday at the Kansas Sports Hall of Fame in Wichita, Kan., Brown will be coming off a fast that people close to him say will allow him to get closer to God. Brown and his family firmly believe that during his fast, God will point him in the right direction and help him make the final call on his college choice.

"It's basically denying your flesh some of your habits, like eating, to try to let God work through you and to be able to be closer to him," says Brown's mentor, Brian Butler. "It allows you to meditate and hear what he has to say, basically."

Brown, who already has graduated from Wichita (Kan.) East, has never promoted he's fasting to come up with a final choice. Butler said he doesn't plan on divulging the length of Brown's fast.

"When it comes to the Bible, what they try to tell you is really don't promote when you're doing it," Butler said. "This is how we feel it helps you make a good decision, when you have an important one to make.

"That's really the purpose of it. Really, the only reason we let anybody know is because Bryce and his parents still believe that if more kids do this from a spiritual standpoint, it'll help them make the right decision. I know one of Bryce's goals in the future is actually to hold seminars or classes when it comes to the decision-making process from a spiritual standpoint." (editorial comment: I pray in advance for anyone who would be foolish enough to fork over the money that there is no doubt that this BB tandem will ask for in order to be enlightened by Bryce.)

Butler said there are a number of ways you can fast, but Brown plans on going with a more traditional route.

"In our case, the fast we use is a liquid fast, where you drink all liquid, like tomato juice, protein shakes and water," Butler said. "It doesn't necessarily have to be fasting from food. In the Bible, the real ones are when you only drink water. But you can fast from video games, or your cell phone, or anything that's a normal habit for you to basically deny yourself that habit and get closer to God."

Butler said Brown has no plans to publicly announce which schools will make the final cut. But Butler did confirm that Brown did not make it to Miami for a planned unofficial visit.

It's still unclear whether that eliminates Miami from consideration, though there have been published reports that the Hurricanes no longer are actively recruiting Brown.

Brown visited LSU, Clemson, Oregon, Tennessee, Kansas State and Missouri. Clemson and Missouri appear to be out of the mix.

"We don't want to make a big spectacle (:bugeyes:) cutting schools or anything of that nature," Butler said. "He has the schools that he's interested in, and those are the schools he's evaluating. As time goes on and the closer and closer he gets, I think he does have schools that he's more interested in. But he doesn't plan on cutting any schools or anything like that. He's just looking for the right school instead of saying these are the wrong schools."

[daytonirish]

Sounds like a Fla commit. You know he can take over the spiritual responsibility from Timmy after next season. And Urbie ought to be happy, he already has one kid who walks on water. And if he can get Brown he will have one that can drink lots of water or juice.

[marv81s]

and i thought pryor's recruitment last year was a circus

this guy better be good. No, he better be great, the second coming of Tim Tebow :bigsmile:

[IrishKnight1023]

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit...

[ndcufan]

i think lane kiffin will be his spiritual adviser come fall

[irishunclebill]

i think lane kiffin will be his spiritual adviser come fall

I guess we'll find out in 10 minutes or so.

[irishunclebill]

The circus is over, it's Tennessee.

[wicket]

just two hats, i was thinking oregon and lsu would at least make an appearance

[irishunclebill]

BTW, he picked up a Miami hat first, and handed it to his brother, and said "I'm going to let you take care of that." Another low class move, especially since every other word out of his mouth is how God told him what to do. Bryce, I doubt very much if God told you to pull that stunt with the Miami hat.

[SpanishElite]

Thank goodness its over. Him and Oku will be able to tell some war stories of their recruiting process. Can we delete his profile?!

[daytonirish]

The circus is over, it's Tennessee.

Unfortunatley I think the circus will only get bigger at Tenn with Kiffen around.

[publicola]

BTW, he picked up a Miami hat first, and handed it to his brother, and said "I'm going to let you take care of that." Another low class move, especially since every other word out of his mouth is how God told him what to do. Bryce, I doubt very much if God told you to pull that stunt with the Miami hat.

The entire hat game is very tired and it's gotten to the point where I don't think there is such a thing as a "classy" way to do it. The only way an announcement should involve hats is if the kid pulls out one hat from the school of his choice and puts it on his head.

Seriously, why not just spit on all of the coaches who have recruited you? Or maybe kick them in the junk. I'm sure some ND recruits have done it this way, but I'd hope ND's staff would mete out some kind of punishment for their stupidity once they've arrived on campus. These are kids, so in the end, maybe they'll look back from a more mature stage in their lives and decide that they were idiots for doing this. Unfortunately, I think that many kids who do this will go through the much of their lives assuming that everyone serves at their pleasure.

[Sureal]

This may be the only time in my life that I root for Florida...

Did I just say that? Blasphemy...

[irishunclebill]

The entire hat game is very tired and it's gotten to the point where I don't think there is such a thing as a "classy" way to do it. The only way an announcement should involve hats is if the kid pulls out one hat from the school of his choice and puts it on his head.

Seriously, why not just spit on all of the coaches who have recruited you? Or maybe kick them in the junk. I'm sure some ND recruits have done it this way, but I'd hope ND's staff would mete out some kind of punishment for their stupidity once they've arrived on campus. These are kids, so in the end, maybe they'll look back from a more mature stage in their lives and decide that they were idiots for doing this. Unfortunately, I think that many kids who do this will go through the much of their lives assuming that everyone serves at their pleasure.

You know I'm sure that there have been some ND recruits who have used the hats, but off the top of my head I don't recall anyone in particular outside of guys who are almost forced to do it at the January All-Star games. I'm pretty sure that Romine and Deion Walker had hats, but IIRC neither one pulled a stunt. I really can't think of anyone else, although I'm sure there must have been others. I know this exhibits some of that arrogance that is attributed to ND fans, but it is just more evidence of the simple fact that ND does tend to attract high character recruits who tend to be above all of this sleight of hand BS. I find guys like Bryce Brown to be the most hypocritical of all of them because of his using God all the time as the reason for all of his actions, it is just plain distasteful on top of being insulting to Miami.

[CULion17]

Somebody should check the bank accounts of that "advisor" that both the Browns had for their recruitment.
It's amazing how all the possible SEC storylines for this offseason have gone untouched thanks to one clown. As much as Urban, Saban, Richt, Spurrier, etc. can't stand Kiffin they are probably equally happy b/c he allows them to fly under the radar.
Anybody want to go down to the SEC meetings w/ me? I'm sure we'll get to see plenty of fireworks.

[irishunclebill]

Somebody should check the bank accounts of that "advisor" that both the Browns had for their recruitment.
It's amazing how all the possible SEC storylines for this offseason have gone untouched thanks to one clown. As much as Urban, Saban, Richt, Spurrier, etc. can't stand Kiffin they are probably equally happy b/c he allows them to fly under the radar.
Anybody want to go down to the SEC meetings w/ me? I'm sure we'll get to see plenty of fireworks.

Don't forget that UT also just picked up one of the other clients of Butler, David Oku, also a RB. Somebody figure that one out for me.

[Griff Cannon]

Don't forget that UT also just picked up one of the other clients of Butler, David Oku, also a RB. Somebody figure that one out for me.

Yeah that was interesting, maybe their spending more than just $7mill on recruiters. As others have pointed out his whole process has smelled bad for a while and with all the friends kiffin is making, if anything hasn't been done to the letter there are definitely people watching.


This may be the only time in my life that I root for Florida...

Did I just say that? Blasphemy...

More like Sureal :rofl::nanana:

[marv81s]

did they have an auctionier at the presser today and slam down a gavel after he put the Tenn hat on?

find it hard to believe that two very highly rated RBs both choose Tenn legitly? Kiffen is going to be the new Dennis Erikson, you can bank that.

[mlcspinner]

did they have an auctionier at the presser today and slam down a gavel after he put the Tenn hat on?

find it hard to believe that two very highly rated RBs both choose Tenn legitly? Kiffen is going to be the new Dennis Erikson, you can bank that.

I was thinking the exact same thing

[Sureal]

As said on another board...

Here's to Urban goin' Chris Brown on Kiffy during the postgame handshake...

[Synoptico]

did they have an auctionier at the presser today and slam down a gavel after he put the Tenn hat on?

find it hard to believe that two very highly rated RBs both choose Tenn legitly? Kiffen is going to be the new Dennis Erikson, you can bank that.

And weren't both "advised" by Brian Butler?

[wicket]

And weren't both "advised" by Brian Butler?

that is correct, everything seems rather shady

[brownkj002]

All I can do is shake my head at this. Kiffin might just out slime the slimeball down at UF. The SEC is about as corupt as they come.

[marv81s]

if/when Kiffen starts getting his ass handed to him on a bi-weekly basis in the SEC, all that shit talk will wear out fast with recruits

especially if bama, LSU and the gayturds lay down the wood on them. Tenn's fanbase, like every other fanbase, isn't going to be patient with him. Especially for the amount of money they are throwing down on him and his assistants, and the bad publicity that has come their way since he's been there. And despite what Kiffin has said, there is such a thing as bad publicity, especially when it comes to recruiting "missteps" or whatever you want to call them.

[SouthernIrish]

I wonder if Mr. Butler is going to be offered a new "job" somewhere. probably a nice high salary and no work. Sound about right? Remember, this is the Bible belt down here. The most holy of ppl. They would never do anything Jesus wouldn't. LOL!

[SpanishElite]

I wonder if Mr. Butler is going to be offered a new "job" somewhere. probably a nice high salary and no work. Sound about right? Remember, this is the Bible belt down here. The most holy of ppl. They would never do anything Jesus wouldn't. LOL!

Butler better stay away from Justin McCay another big time ND Kansas prospect.

[Griff Cannon]

Did anyone else see one of his later articles talking about how he was going to fast over the weekend to become closer to God and make his decision. I just rolled my eyes

[SpanishElite]

Did anyone else see one of his later articles talking about how he was going to fast over the weekend to become closer to God and make his decision. I just rolled my eyes

I guess God is a Tennessee and Lane Kiffin fan. :dead:

[irishunclebill]

I guess God is a Tennessee and Lane Kiffin fan. :dead:

Not Lane, maybe Layla. :drooling:

[Pete]

This just feels so dirty that I think I need to take another shower. He will never live up to the hype that he created by delaying his signing.

[ND_Ownz!]

I'm just glad I don't have to hear about this kid anymore... (Hopefully that is)

[NDGirlzRock]

Surprise but no surprise!!! The circus is over!!!

[stew654]

Tenn out of nowhere...o there is nothing goin on there

[Griff Cannon]

I'm just glad I don't have to hear about this kid anymore... (Hopefully that is)

ha that was just the pre-show

[SouthernIrish]

He could be a one and done. He is pretty awesome as a RB. He probably will go the way of Maurice Clarett. I just don't know if I would want him on ND team. Great talent, no doubt but is he worth the headache and risk of potential violations which come to light years after he is gone? Probably not.

[Synoptico]

He could be a one and done. He is pretty awesome as a RB. He probably will go the way of Maurice Clarett. I just don't know if I would want him on ND team. Great talent, no doubt but is he worth the headache and risk of potential violations which come to light years after he is gone? Probably not.

How could be be a "one and done" In college football you can't get drafted until your high school class has been out for two years.

He could end up in the CFL (I remember it being mentioned earlier by his "advisor". Or he could go the way of Clarett and end up in jail... the possibilities are endless.

[Pete]

How could be be a "one and done" In college football you can't get drafted until your high school class has been out for two years.

.

3 years

[Synoptico]

3 years

Right you are

[stonebreakerwasgod]

He and Kiffin deserve each other.

[Griff Cannon]

He and Kiffin deserve each other.

yeah I saw an article about them having to widen all the doorways around the stadium and practice facilities. They couldn't fit their heads through.

[Griff Cannon]

well that didn't take long (article is from end of Feb.):
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/27/sports/ncaafootball/27recruit.html?_r=4&ref=sports
:popcorn:

Numerous college football coaches said they backed off recruiting Brown and his brother Arthur Brown Jr., a linebacker entering his sophomore year at Miami, because of having to deal with Butler. Some football coaches cling to the notion of not wanting to recruit through third parties.

Butler caused concern in college coaching circles by charging for recruiting updates from his Web site. He has since stopped. Butler also expressed his displeasure in the former Kansas State coach Ron Prince for encouraging Wildcats boosters not to donate to his nonprofit organization. (It would violate N.C.A.A. rules for a booster to donate money to Butler to help recruit a player.)

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/02/27/sports/27recruit.enlarge.jpg
:bugeyes:

[Pete]

Isn't he a personal trainer?

[IrishGrizz]

Isn't he a personal trainer?

Those who can't do, train.

[HoffVir]

from ESPN


KNOXVILLE -- An NCAA representative is in Knoxville investigating whether the amateur status of Tennessee freshman running back Bryce Brown has been violated, which could potentially make him ineligible.

Mike DeCesare, the NCAA’s assistant director for amateurism certification, has talked with Brown in the last day. Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin acknowledged Tuesday after practice that there was a question surrounding Brown’s amateur status and that the investigation had been a "gigantic distraction" for Brown, who was one of the top prospects in the country last year.

Sources told ESPN.com that the crux of the NCAA’s investigation revolves around Brown’s relationship with Brian Butler, who was Brown’s adviser/handler during his recruitment. Brown was one of several prospects that Butler mentored.

In particular, the NCAA is looking into some of the fundraising Brown accepted in high school to visit college campuses and what role Butler might have played.

"The NCAA continues to investigate [Brown] and his whole history going back to when he was young, and I know that bothers him," Kiffin said. "It’s pretty unfortunate."

At one point, Butler was charging money for recruiting updates involving Brown and other players on his PotentialPlayers.com Web site. He later stopped charging and made the information free.

The NCAA's investigation of Butler dates back to at least February when DeCesare visited Wichita to talk to several people there about Butler’s relationship with Brown. One of the people DeCesare met with at the time was Brian Byers, who was Brown’s former high school coach in Wichita.

Butler told ESPN's Joe Schad on Tuesday night that he informed the NCAA that he did not intend to break any rules.

Butler said that he has explained to the NCAA about fundraising he did. He said he understands that he would have put the eligibility of the players in jeopardy had the trips been exclusively "for athletic purposes" but that the central element was meetings arranged with academic staffs.

Butler said he took Brown and the other players on a trip during Brown's sophomore year. He loaded the players on a bus and traveled to Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Ole Miss, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and SMU, among other schools.

"We raised money for the trips with barbecues in front of Sam's Clubs and Wal-Marts," Butler told ESPN.com. "I called it an 'academic tour.' My intent was to broaden the minds of our young players."

Butler said in Brown's junior year, the journey was to campuses such as Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa State, Illinois, Northwestern and Notre Dame.

"If I thought this could put any of the players' eligibility in question, I would not have done it," Butler told ESPN.com. "And I understand I could have been if it was just for football reasons. But I explained it all to the NCAA and I think they understand it."

Butler said he did not spend any money out of his pocket for the trips, only spending what he raised for his non-profit entity.

"I know some people say I'm shady," Butler told ESPN.com. "I know some people think I'm an agent. But I'm not. I'm just trying to help some kids. We did everything on the up-and-up. We didn't take any handouts from anyone. I know my character. And I know I wouldn't jeopardize these kids."

Butler said if Brown is ineligible for any games, he'd take responsibility.

"I would feel terrible," Butler said. "I just want everyone to get to know the person Bryce is and to see the great player he is, too."

Tennessee officials are hopeful that the matter will be resolved soon and not drag out, but Kiffin conceded that he was worried about Brown’s status for the start of the season. The Vols open on Sept. 5 against Western Kentucky.


Information from ESPN.com's Chris Low and ESPN's Joe Schad contributed to this report.

Griffey, errr, Griff Cannon, you know what to do.

[Griff Cannon]

from ESPN

Griffey, errr, Griff Cannon, you know what to do.

sir, yes sir :bigsmile:

[SouthernIrish]

I wonder how many kids on this "academic" tour were not athletes. I guessing none. This guys is as phoney as a 3-dollar bill and pathetically transparent. He didn't do this for a bunch of kids that had 4.0 averages. he was looking for something on the side or a reward in the future. Slimey.

[TheSunIsRising]

Well this came out of left field. Who would have thought that this wannabe Don King (Butler), could have done anything wrong?

Pretty sure this will come to nothing. I mean Kiffin is a branch of the Carroll tree, I'm sure everything is on the up and up!!:wtf:

[lowayne]

Well this came out of left field. Who would have thought that this wannabe Don King (Butler), could have done anything wrong?

Pretty sure this will come to nothing. I mean Kiffin is a branch of the Carroll tree, I'm sure everything is on the up and up!!:wtf:

Yeah, but Carroll knows how to keep it low key. Are we ever going to see Bushgate dealt with?

[JGESS]

just watched it on college football live... saw this coming months ago! hope the other kids from kansas learn from this and stay clear of butler...

[irishunclebill]

http://tennessee.scout.com/2/955137.html


Bryce Brown no longer a UT Vol

By James Bryant
Senior Writer InsideTennessee
Posted Mar 18, 2010

Breaking News: Knoxville, Tennessee Derek Dooley ended his first spring practice as head coach of the Vols but telling the media that Bryce Brown was no longer a member of the football team. According to Dooley, Brown met with him this morning stating that he was dealing with family and personal issues and would no longer be a part of the Vols team.

Derek Dooley ended his first spring practice as head coach of the Vols but telling the media that Bryce Brown was no longer a member of the football team. According to Dooley, Brown met with him this morning stating that he was dealing with family and personal issues and would no longer be a part of the Vols team.

A lot of speculation around the campus is that Brown may be transferring. Two schools that may be under consideration includes Kansas State and USC.

Brown's older brother Arthur recently transferred from Miami to K-State and many believe that the true freshman running back may follow in his brother's footsteps.

Other speculation includes Brown possibly transferring to USC due to his relationship with Lane Kiffin.

Brown could not be reached for comment on this situation.

Dooley stated that Brown approached him this morning with concerns over personal issues.

"Bryce and I met this morning," Dooley stated. "He is dealing with some personal and family issues. All I can say right now is that he is no longer a member of this team. I have to concentrate on the players I have on this team. We didn't kick Bryce off this team, we want him to be a part of it. He will remain on campus for the remainder of the semester."

Another true freshman running back David Oku had this to say after practice about the apparent situation. "Every player has to do whats best for them," Oku said. "We were all caught off guard by this. While it will make things more interesting, I hate to see it for the team."


Headline is misleading. It's not as cut and dry as it sounds although he will not be part of their spring practices.

Another story from the UT sports website is below.


http://www.utsports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/031810aab.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


Vols Open Spring Drills; Brown Sitting Out for Now


Dooley Pleased with Team's First-Day Organization


March 18, 2010


Tennessee head coach Derek Dooley was all smiles Thursday after opening his first Vols spring practice with better than a two-hour workout.

This despite the fact that he suddenly is minus one tailback.

"Bryce Brown came to me today and indicated he's dealing with a lot of personal and family problems right now," Dooley said. "As of right now, he's not a part of the team. It doesn't mean we've kicked him off by any means. We want Bryce here, but my focus really is on the 85 guys who are here and who have great spirit about the direction of the program.

"(He has) concerns that I believe stem from -- and he told me stem from -- No.1, some of the reasons why he came here, and No. 2, his experience over the first six months he has been here."

Dooley was nonetheless encouraged by his squad's attention to detail, despite all the changes that have occurred around the football complex over the past few months.

"The thing I'm most pleased about is organizationally, it went very well," he said. "That's a hard thing when it's your first practice with all new coaches and all new players.

"It was a good start, but looking forward to the next one."

The Vols are limited to helmets only, no pads, through their first two workouts. Tennessee practices again Saturday morning at Haslam Field.

UT also is required to have one additional day of helmets-only practice, which for the Vols takes place the Thursday before the April 17 Dish Network Orange and White Game.

Regarding Brown, Dooley said he was caught off-guard but now realizes it is a decision the Wichita, Kan., native has been struggling with for some time.

"I was a little surprised, but you can only control what you can control," Dooley said. "He went through the entire offseason. But I also think this wasn't something from the last three weeks; this is something that's probably six months (in the making). He's dealing with a lot of issues."

Dooley said whatever Brown's ultimate decision, the sophomore is going to remain at UT through spring semester.

The Vols as a team appear to be acclimating to their new coaching staff -- new being the key word. Dooley was hired only two months ago this week, and the final assistant coach was not named until just six weeks ago. Yet Thursday's effort was a great starting point, according to the head coach.

"It was a very workman-like day by all of them," Dooley said. "They were having some fun out there but were focused on the job. I've sensed the last couple of weeks that they really started to turn a little bit and are feeling good about where we're headed.

"Long way to go, but a good first day."

[mlcspinner]

I"m not surprised about this at all.. personal issues??? BS

[irishunclebill]

http://www.irishsportsdaily.com/football/2858-cfb-notebook


BROWN BROTHERS TO GO BACK?: Arthur and Bryce Brown have attracted as much attention from college football recruiting junkies as any brothers in recent history and that continues to this day. Both were five-star prospects before Arthur selected Miami and Bryce chose Tennessee after a long battle that stretched beyond signing day. After the 2009 season, both indicated their desire to leave their programs.

Most assumed that the Browns would go to Kansas State where they could be closer to their home in Wichita. Now, it seems anything could happen. There are reports that Arthur could return to Miami while Bryce is reportedly meeting with Tennessee head coach Derek Dooley. Could both end up in Knoxville?

:rofl:

[Pete]

These two aren't worth the headache for any team.

[mlcspinner]

These two aren't worth the headache for any team.

let them both go to Tenn

[NotreDameNate]

I knew I didn't want to open this thread, lol.

[rontdtarchala]

to me they felt like trouble from the get go

[stonebreakerwasgod]

The two Lebrons should really start their own school.

[SpanishElite]

What a joke. The latest rumors is that B. Brown will return to Tennessee.

[Pete]

Sheer class: Bryce Brown severs ties with Vols via a text

Posted by John Taylor on July 27, 2010 6:37 PM ET

Somehow, given the six-ring circus masquerading as a recruiting process that led him to Knoxville in the first place, it's beyond appropriate that the Bryce Brown era at Tennessee has ended this way.

The one-time Volunteers running back was scheduled to have a meeting Tuesday with head coach Derek Dooley about possibly returning to the football program, a program he abruptly left earlier this offseason.

Not only did Brown blow off the meeting with the first-year coach, but the sophomore informed Dooley that he no longer had a desire to return to UT. And he did this via a text message.

That's class right there, Bryce, I don't care who you are.

According to a tweet from Josh Ward of the Knoxville News Sentinel, the fashion in which Brown decided to leave Knoxville did not sit well with a prominent member of his family.

"Brown's father was 'ballistic that Bryce wasn't man enough to tell Dooley to his face that he's leaving."

The news that Brown is leaving would not have come as a surprise to Dooley, who said last week that "at some point he's going to have to ask for a release, which I expect to be soon." However, the manner in which Brown left, after Dooley left the door open for a return far longer than most coaches would've, will certain leave a bad taste in the coach's mouth.

So, Brown will now officially leave the school with 460 yards, three touchdowns and a name second only to Lane Kiffin on Volunteer Nation's Most Contemptible List littering his collegiate résumé.

As to where Brown ultimately lands, it still appears, as it has since the RB took his leave of the program the first time, that his home-state Kansas State Wildcats remain the frontrunners for his circuses services.

Or, could the man who convinced Brown to come to the Volunteers in the first place convince him to rejoin him on the West Coast? Somehow, that scenario would be very fitting and most apt for both the parties.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/27/sheer-class-bryce-brown-severs-ties-with-vols-via-a-text/

[Griff Cannon]

:read::bugeyes::rofl:

[Synoptico]

F him and every entitled athlete in my generation.

[NotreDameNate]

Let me say it for UT fans.... good riddance

[SpanishElite]

There is no way I would ever let him out of his LOI.

[goirish41]

the brown boys are a soap opera.

[irishunclebill]

the brown boys are a soap opera.

A bad soap opera. Wait, is that redundant?

[SouthernIrish]

Jack....Ass.

[wicket]

emaw

[pmarrack]

emaw

Um . . . what?

[wicket]

Um . . . what?

every man a wildcat, he is transferring to kansas state

[irishunclebill]

http://cjonline.com/sports/football/2010-08-20/brown_enrolls_answers_questions?flv=1



Brown enrolls, answers questions
August 20, 2010 - 5:19pm
Running back Bryce Brown has enrolled at Kansas State, according to an ESPN.com report.

Brown also spent two hours answering questions from NCAA investigators regarding the recruiting practices of former Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin and his staff.

Arthur Brown Sr., Bryce's father, told ESPN.com the family was asked not to discuss the NCAA's questions. However, he expressed no concern that the NCAA inquiry could impact Brown's eligibility at K-State.

"What I will say is that, at the time Bryce was being recruited, he was already under investigation by the NCAA," Arthur Brown told ESPN.com. "So on our part, we and the coaches were hypersensitive and above board and didn't violate rules. We asked questions if we didn't know. He was already under investigation at that time and was cleared."

At the time, the NCAA was exploring Brown's relationship with Wichita trainer/adviser Brian Butler.

Brown still is awaiting the results of an appeal that could grant him a release from his scholarship at Tennessee. The former Wichita standout played one season for the Volunteers before leaving the program.

Dooley won't release him.

Haden should take note of the fact that the NCAA is asking questions of a kid transferring from Tennessee to K-State about Kiffy. Kiffy is pure poison right now. Couldn't happen to a bigger asshole.

[pmarrack]

every man a wildcat, he is transferring to kansas state

Thanks.

[SpanishElite]

I dont see BB saying to much about Kiffin and what went on at Tennessee. If he does that and talks about the illegal benefits or recruiting actions it could put his own eligibility in question. I cant possibly see how this appeal would go through that he could be given his release.. schools get new coaches all the time, he was a pre-madona that got homesick and missed his equally as pre-madona brother. Hopefully they can both fade away at KSU.

[IrishFan123]

http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/09/29/bryce-brown-the-no-1-recruit-in-the-class-of-2009-may-be-finished-at-kansas-state/

Bryce Brown, the No. 1 Recruit in the Class of 2009, May Be Finished at Kansas State


Bryce Brown, a two-time high-school All-American and the nation’s No. 1 recruit from the Class of 2009, may be finished as a Kansas State Wildcat. A KSU spokesperson was “unable to confirm nor deny” if Brown was presently a member of the team. Bill Snyder told reporters that Brown was “going through some difficult times right now.” Brown’s brother Arthur is a starting linebacker.

Brown initially committed to Miami before backing out, taking multiple visits and receiving “a sign from God” he should attend Tennessee. He transferred to Kansas State after his freshman season and sat out 2010. Brown’s infamous “advisor” Brian Butler was seen near the team’s facility.

Brown had three carries for 16 yards and a fumble against Eastern Kentucky and had not touched the ball since. He was presumed to be fourth on the team’s depth chart. Snyder had criticized Brown for missing “voluntary” workouts over the summer.

[morrdave9]

He's got some catching up to do if he wants to compete with Martin

[Synoptico]

He's got some catching up to do if he wants to compete with Martin


RB Bryce Brown is done playing college football and plans to prepare for the upcoming NFL Draft, per @JimmyHyams.

Move taken

[morrdave9]

lol

because he is so talented that he hasn't been able to get much PT at any school he's been at yet.

[mlcspinner]

He'll find a home in Oakland.

[wicket]

He'll find a home in Oakland.

there is a new sherriff in town there

[step30044]

He'll find a home in Oakland.

As a long time Raiders fan it will never happen until he can run a sub 4.4 forty and be unable to catch , tackle and get to camp on time.