'08 OR DE Ethan Johnson (6/27/07 Notre Dame LOI)

[Svoboda]

Strongside Defensive End
Lincoln (Portland, OR)

Ht: 6-foot-4
Wt: 253 lbs
Forty: 5.16 secs

Links of Interest: None

[Svoboda]

Ethan Johnson

[BGIF]

According to Allan Wallace http://recruiting.scout.com/2/627245.html Ethan Johnson doesn't have a problem with distance but he does like warm weather. Holds offers from ORE, ORS, ND, UCS, AUB, MIN, and CU. Likes UCLA a lot as well as Miami, Bama, and UF.

The good news for ND fans is he hopes to camp at ND as well as AUB this summer.

[scooper]

He made it to camp. Fingers crossed.

[Akron Irish]

I really like our chances with this one.

[IrishKnight1023]

I heard he extended his Michigan trip and now will only be at ND one day because of it. Is this the case?

[irishunclebill]

If he extended his scUM trip, how can he be on ND's campus today?

[IrishKnight1023]

If he extended his scUM trip, how can he be on ND's campus today?

----I meant I heard he extended his Michigan trip which in results took a day or two off his ND trip and now he is here for only one day when he could've been here earlier. It's just what I heard and was pretty much asking you or somebody else that knows if he will only be here one day.

[scooper]

That's what the word was in skunkbear land.

[irishunclebill]

----I meant I heard he extended his Michigan trip which in results took a day or two off his ND trip and now he is here for only one day when he could've been here earlier. It's just what I heard and was pretty much asking you or somebody else that knows if he will only be here one day.


Not sure IK23, all I know is Johnson arrived at ND last night. The ND camp started yesterday, so I guess it is conceivable that he was supposed to be at ND for the first day of camp yesterday, and chose to stay at Michigan instead. However, I do not know that as fact. It does seem unlikely that he will leave the ND camp early to return to Michigan, but you can never tell.

[Svoboda]

That's what the word was in skunkbear land.
To be fair, they also reported Hunter, Blanton and Clelland were silent commitments to them as well as they are also doing right now with Filer.

Take them with a grain of salt.

[irishunclebill]

I'm not sure what part of Skunkbear land started this, but in an interview with GBW, who are the worst partisans of the lot, Johnson told them that after Michigan he was going to stop at a Notre Dame camp for a day, which presumably is today, then he is going to visit relatives in Ontario. I do not see anything that indicates that he ever planned on spending more than a day at ND, and you can be sure that if he was cutting his ND schedule short to spend extra time at scUM, then the GBW fanatics would have reported exactly that in his interview. After all, they implied in typical GBW dreamland style that USC was Michigan's biggest obstacle to successfully recruiting Johnson.

The interview is a free Scout story, here is the link:

Top Camper- Ethan Johnson (http://michigan.scout.com/2/653486.html)


"From here I'm going to Notre Dame for a day. Then I'm going to visit my relatives in Ontario for a couple week for a vacation."

[IrishCalves]

It may very well have been one day, but I thought it was at least two - yesterday and today. The old rumors had it painted as a 3 day visit, but who knows what it actually turns/turned out to be.

And I agree IUB. Michigan's scout site is pretty atrocious when it comes to what they report. First there were the "silent commits" as mentioned earlier in the thread. Then I remember how Darius Fleming was actually a California native :eek: surprise surprise. Combine that with the nature of their articles - short, cryptic, completely UM slanted with little or no regard for opposing teams a kid is looking at - and you've got a recipe for a really bad recruiting site. When they interview, they interview for UM, not for the kid they're talking to - not good for journalism if you ask me.

I don't like UM, but this has nothing to do with the rivalry. I'd take USC's reports on Ethan Johnson over UM's any day of the week.

[irishunclebill]

It may very well have been one day, but I thought it was at least two - yesterday and today. The old rumors had it painted as a 3 day visit, but who knows what it actually turns/turned out to be.

And I agree IUB. Michigan's scout site is pretty atrocious when it comes to what they report. First there were the "silent commits" as mentioned earlier in the thread. Then I remember how Darius Fleming was actually a California native :eek: surprise surprise. Combine that with the nature of their articles - short, cryptic, completely UM slanted with little or no regard for opposing teams a kid is looking at - and you've got a recipe for a really bad recruiting site. When they interview, they interview for UM, not for the kid they're talking to - not good for journalism if you ask me.

I don't like UM, but this has nothing to do with the rivalry. I'd take USC's reports on Ethan Johnson over UM's any day of the week.

Well, good news, GBW has not failed us again in terms of inaccurate reporting. Johnson arrived at ND on Sunday night and will be staying at camp through Wednesday's camp session. 3 whole days and 3 whole nights, not the one day stop mentioned in the GBW article. Gotta love those GBW boys, they are consistently wrong, most of the time on purpose to mislead, but still wrong.

[IrishKnight1023]

They should be sued for re wording his quotes. That is criminal.

[NDgrandson]

http://blueandgold.com/

If Ethan Johnson committed yesterday, someone should tell Kapron Lewis-Moore. He has set his date to officially vist ND.

[irishunclebill]

http://blueandgold.com/

If Ethan Johnson committed yesterday, someone should tell Kapron Lewis-Moore. He has set his date to officially vist ND.

I don't think it matters. KLM may see himself as a DE, but I'm pretty sure that if he ends up at ND, he would be a 3-4 OLB. Unless Hale really did commit as well, (I saw that TAA is starting to take some lumps on that issue at DD) or if ND gets Sabino before the end of the summer, then there is still a spot for KLM.

[irishunclebill]

Just as an aside, from what I have read about KLM personally, just getting him out of Texas to make an Official Visit to Notre Dame is another amazing recruiting feat for the CW/CB duo. I would not be in the least surprised to see a committment from KLM during an ND Official Visit, that is if there is a spot still available. This kid has received a lot attention from the ND staff, and they were the first to recognize his talent. All of the national offers that he has received were another classic "Follow the Charlie."

[irishunclebill]

Moved to Committed! Go EJ.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Sweetness.

[Ricochet]

Kapron Lewis-Moore and Chancey Aghayere aren't 3-4 DE's and Ethan Johnson's commitment shouldn't effect either one at all. KLM and CA are without question 4-3 DE's but if they came to ND they are OLB's like irishunclebill said with KLM.

[Danman]

Awesome.

[Pete]

This is kind of crazy. I told my dad that Corwin was the biggest recruit last year. Lets hope for even half of these results on the field this year.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

It's amazing, talk about synergy. You can feel it. I think our chances of getting our most wanted recruits just went up a notch.

[rontdtarchala]

I knew you would come around to see it my way...like I said a couple days ago the way things have been going I think just about anyone is a possibility

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Jeremy Brown is changing plans and coming in early july. I don't think he wants his window of opportunity closing any further......:)

[IrishCalves]

Should I be made nervous that Ethan Johnson isn't on the scout or rivals list as commits by now? Blueandgold.com has a story up saying Ethan followed Jamoris's suit, but he's not on their list either...

[irishunclebill]

Should I be made nervous that Ethan Johnson isn't on the scout or rivals list as commits by now? Blueandgold.com has a story up saying Ethan followed Jamoris's suit, but he's not on their list either...

In a word, no. II sent confirmations last night to probably at least 1,000 subscribers. They would never do that if they were not absolutely sure for obvious business reasons. Also, B&G now has an actual story on their Front Page about EJ's committment. As we all know by now, II & Irish Envy do not control the Rivals & Scout databases so who knows when they will change EJ"s status.

Scout is probably waiting to hear from the Poodle before they will confirm.;)

[NDGirlzRock]

What a get EJ is!!! I have high praise for a kid that makes his own decisions, let alone the fact that he doesn't own a cell phone. Not sure why, but that just makes me think that we just got a 24 Karat DE. Way to go CB and CW!:D

[tedwick]

can i take this opportunity to say: i really like this guy's skillz! great get! this d00d is a stuuuuuud! WHOOOOO!

haha.

[scooper]

can i take this opportunity to say: i really like this guy's skillz! great get! this d00d is a stuuuuuud! WHOOOOO!

haha.

lol!!!1!1

[irishunclebill]

EJ's Rivals Profile now says "Notre Dame (solid verbal).

[rontdtarchala]

some news services just hate to give it up when it comes to ND...when we're kicking everyones but it will be how we get the best players and its not fair blah blah blah...just like when our opponent makes a good play its a big deal when we do its the "luck of the Irish"!

[tedwick]

some news services just hate to give it up when it comes to ND...when we're kicking everyones but it will be how we get the best players and its not fair blah blah blah...just like when our opponent makes a good play its a big deal when we do its the "luck of the Irish"!ARGH THE DREADED ANTI-ND BIAS!

[marv81s]

I think the recruiting services were hesitant to change his status till they got reliable confirmation from either Ethan, which isn't going to happen since he is on vacation and is probably the only recruit that doesn't have a cell phone that works, and/or someone close enough to Ethan that could 100% confirm his verbal to ND.

the ND bias will come later when he loses a star :D:p

[IrishCalves]

So can we finally put to bed talk about how Masengo Kabongo needs to get an offer in the mail? :D

[IrishKnight1023]

I think the recruiting services were hesitant to change his status till they got reliable confirmation from either Ethan, which isn't going to happen since he is on vacation and is probably the only recruit that doesn't have a cell phone that works, and/or someone close enough to Ethan that could 100% confirm his verbal to ND.

the ND bias will come later when he loses a star :D:p


------No cell phone? No Poodle sending text messagess...

"Are you sure want to do this? you can still have that house..."
--Ethans response...
"Suck it"

[IrishKnight1023]

So can we finally put to bed talk about how Masengo Kabongo needs to get an offer in the mail? :D

------HAHA I was accually a half supporter of this until people got to crazy about offering him RIGHT NOW! I got excited that he said we definently leaded and I needed to get my quick fix...a disgustingly unpatient ND fan...

[irishunclebill]

EJ was on Power Hour last night so ND fans had the opportunity to hear the big man himself affirm his verbal to ND. Items of note.

1) Primary reason for selecting ND was academics, not the football program.
2) Re. #1, USC was never really in the picture because of this.
3) Planned on committing to ND before he arrived as long as he felt he was a good fit during the visit. EJ actually told his parents this before he was on campus.
4) Spent a lot of time with Goodman & the 2007 recruits on campus and enjoyed his time with them. Those Indiana boys, Cave & Goodman, are turning into helluva good recruiters.
5) Spoke in glowing terms of Corwin Brown, is there anybody who does not think this guy is great. Even most of the scUM crowd like him. Just hope that ND can hold on to him for at least 5 years.

It's great to hear a kid talk about academics and really mean it for once, even pointing out that USC is lackluster in that regard. Contrast that to the kids like Beal who propagate the propaganda thrown at them by the likes of the Poodle and the Cockwad, and it makes me feel that there is hope for the future after all.:D

[rontdtarchala]

yeah no joke, students first...I wish these kids could see passed the glitz and glamour of some of the schools and look at whats best for their future (condumbs)

[robdog_5]

On power hour tonight

Said he enjoyed visit at Michigan but it didn't compare to the athletic/academic blend he was looking for. Said he went into the visit with the idea he was going to verbal if he really liked it and let his parents know. Said the rumor of his favorite beiing SC was just talk and said he didn't really like the SC grad rate, and talked about ND's buissness school being much better.

Went with alot of his family. Said it took him a while to get used to South Bend but after that he said he could really enjoy living there and playing there. Said he hung out with John Goodman and the incoming freshman. Said he liked them but that was a deciding factor.

Talked about Corwin Brown, and really likes him. Say he is really personable and doesn't come after you and in your face. Says he doesn't have a crush on him but has built a good relationship with him.

Says now recruiting is over he can get ready for the season and preparing to win the state title.

Talked to his parents and called his family and then did a 3 way conversation with first CBrown and then CWeis. Said the coaches where excited but he said they probably are always excited to get a verbal.

Said rankings are cool but the offers meant alot more and that what he fells like solidifies him. Hasn't talked to anybody since he has been back from Canada (yesterday). Said he has just been talking to reporters.

Says he won't visit any more schools and said he may go to California to visit family but won't visit any schools and he is locked down and he wants to attend ND

That's the show, he is very funny and down to earth kid. I thought he was very good interview and choose ND for more reasons then CBrown and Football is what the complete package and the guy seemed really into the academic side as well.

[irishunclebill]

On power hour tonight

Said he enjoyed visit at Michigan but it didn't compare to the athletic/academic blend he was looking for. Said he went into the visit with the idea he was going to verbal if he really liked it and let his parents know. Said the rumor of his favorite beiing SC was just talk and said he didn't really like the SC grad rate, and talked about ND's buissness school being much better.

Went with alot of his family. Said it took him a while to get used to South Bend but after that he said he could really enjoy living there and playing there. Said he hung out with John Goodman and the incoming freshman. Said he liked them but that was a deciding factor.

Talked about Corwin Brown, and really likes him. Say he is really personable and doesn't come after you and in your face. Says he doesn't have a crush on him but has built a good relationship with him.

Says now recruiting is over he can get ready for the season and preparing to win the state title.

Talked to his parents and called his family and then did a 3 way conversation with first CBrown and then CWeis. Said the coaches where excited but he said they probably are always excited to get a verbal.

Said rankings are cool but the offers meant alot more and that what he fells like solidifies him. Hasn't talked to anybody since he has been back from Canada (yesterday). Said he has just been talking to reporters.

Says he won't visit any more schools and said he may go to California to visit family but won't visit any schools and he is locked down and he wants to attend ND

That's the show, he is very funny and down to earth kid. I thought he was very good interview and choose ND for more reasons then CBrown and Football is what the complete package and the guy seemed really into the academic side as well.


Great info, great kid, great get for the Irish.

[rontdtarchala]

sounds like a real quality young man

[IrishKnight1023]

From The Oregonian on-line edition.

Big Time Aspirations (http://www.oregonlive.com/prepsports/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/sports/1188357927274740.xml&coll=7)

"He could be the best one that's ever played (high school) in our state," said Lincoln coach Chad Carlson, who is quick to note Johnson's humility. "He's not that type of guy looking for the spotlight all the time. He's a team player, an academic player."

At Michigan, he found out there was one other player in the business program.

"And he was the punter," Johnson said, laughing. "Is there anything else I can say about that?"

-------HAHAHAHAHA, My new favorite recruit hands down.

[IrishKnight1023]

Also it's VERY good news he's going to be playing DE in the the 3-4 for his Sr. year because we'll need him to make an impact from day 1.

With his college decision out of the way, Johnson's focus is back on Cardinals football. This year, he's moving to defensive end -- the position he is expected to play in college -- after playing defensive tackle his sophomore and junior seasons (when he had 24 combined sacks). In Johnson's two seasons on varsity, Lincoln has a 21-3 record, and he said the team's new 3-4 defense this season "is going to be killin'."

And one last awesome quote....

"Whoever is in front of me, I feel bad for," he said. "I just expect to dominate the person in front of me."

[untitledproject]

That's good stuff.

[NDgrandson]

http://www.oregonlive.com/prepsports/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/sports/1188357927274740.xml&coll=7

"He could be the best one that's ever played (high school) in our state," said Lincoln coach Chad Carlson, who is quick to note Johnson's humility. "He's not that type of guy looking for the spotlight all the time. He's a team player, an academic player."

At Michigan, he found out there was one other player in the business program.

"And he was the punter," Johnson said, laughing. "Is there anything else I can say about that?"

-------HAHAHAHAHA, My new favorite recruit hands down.


More ammunition for Harbaugh. That is great.

[NDGirlzRock]

Damn why couldn't he be at ND this year. How long has it been since we have had an All-American DE? I think that this kid has a shot at it! Can't wait to see him eat up scUM and USCless QBs!!!

[irishunclebill]

Lincoln HS lost it's season opener 32-21 primarily because the Lincoln QB threw 5 INT's. EJ's school was the only ND verbal's school to lose over the weekend. The 19 verbals went 17-1 with Golic's team not playing.

[zimmsbg78]

I saw on Rivals recruiting front page a link: "Checking in with Ethan Johnson." It said that he is planning on taking an official visit or two.

Is this anything that should be alarming or is it just a writer trying to create a buzz?

[irishunclebill]

I saw on Rivals recruiting front page a link: "Checking in with Ethan Johnson." It said that he is planning on taking an official visit or two.

Is this anything that should be alarming or is it just a writer trying to create a buzz?

This is nothing but a rumor no doubt started by the hatas that you will see a lot of this year, especially if ND's season does not improve. EJ has said repeatedly that he has no interest in any school besides Notre Dame and that his only Official Visit will be to Notre Dame. Case closed. You can not be sure of anyone until you get the LOI on NSD but of all of the 19 recruits thus far EJ has been most adamant that his primary reason for picking ND over the likes o scUM & USC was because he wanted a great education. His background supports this and based on that I would say that EJ is the least likely of any of the current 19 verbal recruits to pull a Little on the Irish.

[ab2cmiller]

Lincoln's Johnson to undergo MRI

Link to story http://blog.oregonlive.com/oregonianpreps/2007/09/lincolns_johnson_to_under_mri.html

Hopefully its nothing serious.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

All of our recruits get injured in h.s. It's kinda expected at this point.

[The New Louis]

Wish him the best. Hopefully it is nothing structural.

[NDisNCin2010]

All of our recruits get injured in h.s. It's kinda expected at this point.

geez...aint it the truth...ragone, allen, clausen, O hunter, now EJ...did i miss any?

[BigIrish]

aldridge. parris. hord. gray.

technically, hord was hurt after he was already here, as was gray, although gray didn't even get to put on a uniform before his happened. aldridge blew out a knee and parris dislocated a hip during their senior years. cripes, that's gotta hurt.

[RichardRiot]

EJ has said repeatedly that he has no interest in any school besides Notre Dame and that his only Official Visit will be to Notre Dame. Case closed. .

And continues that stance today with a teaser on Scout that says he isn't wavering.......

http://notredame.scout.com/a.z?s=109&p=2&c=686935&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fnotredame.scout.com%2f2% 2f686935.html

[ab2cmiller]

Evidently they are calling his knee injury a strain and he is out probably another 2 to 3 weeks. I don't know how late in the year they play, but evidently he will be able to play a few games towards the end of their season.

Link http://blog.oregonlive.com/sportsupdates/2007/10/lincolns_johnson_out_longer.html

[irishunclebill]

Evidently they are calling his knee injury a strain and he is out probably another 2 to 3 weeks. I don't know how late in the year they play, but evidently he will be able to play a few games towards the end of their season.

Link http://blog.oregonlive.com/sportsupdates/2007/10/lincolns_johnson_out_longer.html

Thanks for that, been trying to find out something about EJ's current status. From an ND standpoint, I'm glad they are holding him out so it does not get any more serious before it has a chance to heal. Lincoln HS is probably not too thrilled though because they have been struggling.

[tedwick]

Thanks for that, been trying to find out something about EJ's current status. From an ND standpoint, I'm glad they are holding him out so it does not get any more serious before it has a chance to heal. Lincoln HS is probably not too thrilled though because they have been struggling.i believe the coach has said that he's perfectly fine holding ethan out because he doesn't want to risk the kid's future. quality guy.

[irishunclebill]

EJ is supposed to be taking his Official to ND this weekend for the BC game.

[NDisNCin2010]

and here's how it went...ya gotta love this kid.

http://notredame.scout.com/2/691639.html



Ethan Johnson from Lincoln High School (Portland, Oregon) saw the Notre Dame campus for the first time on an unofficial visit in June. At some point during that visit he felt that Notre Dame was the right place for him, and he committed before he left campus. Last weekend, Johnson made his official visit to Notre Dame and he left campus more certain than ever that he had made the right decision. ... continued

[daytonirish]

Every commit that Charlie and the staff have gotten this year all seem to say the same thing that they are not wavering at all and can't wait to get to S.B. You gotta love this group, and after this weekend hopefully it will be larger by 4 ( Robinson,Page, Floyd, and Baldwin.)

[NDGirlzRock]

Rosey glasses my friend, but I hope that you're right???

[daytonirish]

For this weekend the glasses are Kelly Green and Gold. While wearing my kiss me I'm Irish botton.:D

[NDisNCin2010]

is EJ injury more serious then first thought?
any Pac Northwesters have any info on this?
is he playing this week? did he play last week?

[marv81s]

his coach is doing the right thing and thinking the "big picture" for Ethan and is not going to play him the rest of the year. So hats off to his high school coach for looking out for his best players future

none of Ethan's MRIs have shown any internal damage, which is great. If Ethan's knee doesn't respond to the current treatment, they will more than likely do a scope and take a look. Either way, he should be 100% by the time summer rolls arould for practice

[NDGirlzRock]

Man that's awesome.....wonder if they have any other talent up in his neck of the woods???

[irishunclebill]

EJ will be getting visits from CW & Jappy tomorrow, and Jappy & Corwin Brown next Tuesday. He has also declined his invitation to play in the AAA game.

[Flyin_Irish]

Declined AAA game due to injury I assume?

[irishunclebill]

Declined AAA game due to injury I assume?

The official answer is no, for family reasons.

Unofficial answer is he will still be re-habbing the knee injury and probably does not want to go there and not play. Latest word on the knee injury is that he will be 100% by the time he gets to ND. He will also not be an EE.

[ND Fanatic]

Is Ethan Johnson really an EE or is it just more crack reporting by Carroll ??

http://www.southbendtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071222/SPORTS13/118044615/1023/SPORTS13

[Akron Irish]

Is Ethan Johnson really an EE or is it just more crack reporting by Carroll ??

http://www.southbendtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071222/SPORTS13/118044615/1023/SPORTS13

Thats the first I have heard of it. Someone should look it up in the directory to see if he's enrolled

[marv81s]

EJ is not an EE

Sean and T-Rob are the only 2

[polish leppy 22]

I like how Carroll writes on and on about Florida's academic prestige and how it is ranked 49th in the country. I actually agree with him there. Florida is hard to get into, especially if you are out of state.

Here's what Carroll fails to mention...the lack of Florida's players actually going to class, doing papers, and taking tests. Who is to say Meyer isn't doing at Florida what Bowden is doing at PSU? Another fact Carroll leaves out is the graduation rates. ND is always in the top 5 with ALL its athletes and Florida is nowhere near that percentage.

[marv81s]

very true

he is comparing apples to oranges. He needs to be comparing (for this arguement anyway) the grad rates of both schools in terms of a) athletics and b) the universities football programs and he can even add in the grad rates of the minority students.

Those 3 ares alone, the two schools aren't even in the same league

[paddyman]

polish leppy: just curious but do you actually have factual based info on Florida student athletes not attending classes, taking tests etc. Im sure that every school has some to a degree (including the normal student population) but this sounds a little too conspiracy driven for me.

i agree that he is not comparing wha he should be comparing for his argument. ND is superior regarding athletes but UF is a dang good institution for a student in its own right. Numerous programs are as top notch as anywhere else.

[polish leppy 22]

Paddyman: I wasn't making a prosecution case for the jury, just my speculation. If Urban is this dirty in recruiting I can only imagine what he does for his "student-athletes." When is the last time you head a UF recruit or player say he was going there for the football and the education? Alllll the ND kids mention the ND degree in interviews

I acknowledged earlier that Florida is an excellent academic instiution, as is ND. The difference is that everyone knows ND takes the term "student-athlete" seriously. Academics first, football second. And I would encourage Carroll to show the graduation rates of the studenth athletes and minority student athletes. A journalist like Carroll who can have so much influence on public opinion should tell the whole story

[NDisNCin2010]

the University of Florida is a prestigious, high ranking university, akin to the University of Notre Dame?...I dont think so, now matter how anyone here or in the media spins it.
talk about comparing apples and oranges!

[polish leppy 22]

NDisNC: statistics don't lie. these aren't numbers put out by Florida. they are published by the princeton review, US World News, etc.

The numbers for their regular students and the school's programs are outstanding. Whether the school is as strong as ND can be argued all day. My argument was that the student-athletes at ND get the same education and the rest of the student body. It is questionable (at least) to argue the same happens at Florida with their student-athletes.

[paddyman]

NDisNC: statistics don't lie. these aren't numbers put out by Florida. they are published by the princeton review, US World News, etc.

The numbers for their regular students and the school's programs are outstanding. Whether the school is as strong as ND can be argued all day. My argument was that the student-athletes at ND get the same education and the rest of the student body. It is questionable (at least) to argue the same happens at Florida with their student-athletes.

agree on the rankings: they are based on specific criteria for the general populace.

The student athletes can take any degree they want. No one forces them to choose general education major or kinesology. I just dont think it is as prevalent as we think, nor do i think that every time an athlete gets busted for cheating, the coach is the one who ok'd it or made it happen.

After looking at some of the world rankings, out of the top 200 world universities, the US had 110 of them. Of the 110, 85 have football teams in Div 1.

[paddyman]

the University of Florida is a prestigious, high ranking university, akin to the University of Notre Dame?...I dont think so, now matter how anyone here or in the media spins it.
talk about comparing apples and oranges!

NDisNCin20010, i dont intend to be mean, but your statment is just crazy. Just like any other university in this country Florida has programs that are top notch, along with top notch facilities.

just one example:

http://news.ufl.edu/2006/10/20/mba-top-ten/

"In a survey of nearly 300 schools, institutions were scored between 60 and 99 in each category, with 99 being the highest. UF scored 98 in overall academic experience. This rating measures the quality of the learning environment, including factors such as GMAT scores, undergraduate grades, percent accepted, percent enrolled, and student/faculty ratio. Students also were asked to respond to questions pertaining to faculty, student peers and realization of academic expectations.

Florida also scored a 96 in the admissions selectivity category, placing it just outside of the Top Ten for that category. Besides the rankings, the UF program received highly favorable comments from students as well. The faculty is highly regarded, and the administration is viewed extremely positively. Some of the notable quotes included:

Finance “is the greatest strength of the program” at UF, where “entrepreneurship is also a rising star.”
The administration “runs the MBA program like a business…they do not lose focus of the fact that their primary customer is the student.”
“We’re extremely pleased with the results of the Princeton Review survey. To be ranked in the Top Ten in such a crucial category as overall academic experience is especially gratifying,” said Alex Sevilla, director of the Florida MBA program. “To be in the company of programs such as Wharton, Harvard and Stanford is a testament to the exceptional quality of the Florida MBA program, our faculty and our students.”"

[paddyman]

I will also offer this:

http://www.cba.ufl.edu/rankings.asp

[marv81s]

anyhoot

EJ = not an EE

will be 100% by the time summer practice rolls along

[paddyman]

anyhoot

EJ = not an EE

will be 100% by the time summer practice rolls along

thanks marv cant wit to see him on the end.

[NDisNCin2010]

NDisNC: statistics don't lie. these aren't numbers put out by Florida. they are published by the princeton review, US World News, etc.

The numbers for their regular students and the school's programs are outstanding. Whether the school is as strong as ND can be argued all day. My argument was that the student-athletes at ND get the same education and the rest of the student body. It is questionable (at least) to argue the same happens at Florida with their student-athletes.

your right, statistics dont lie...people do.

BTW in case your interested and in the spirit fo full disclosure, here are some disclaimers by US News and World Report on how they get the data to provide their statistics:

* denotes a public school
N/A means not available.
School refused to fill out U.S. News statistical survey. Data that appear may be from school in previous years or from the National Center for Education Statistics unless otherwise noted.
SAT and/or ACT not required by school for some or all applicants.
Data not submitted in the form requested by U.S. News.
Data reported to U.S. News in previous years.
Data based on fewer than 51 percent of enrolled freshmen.
Some or all data reported to the NCAA and/or the National Center for Education Statistics.
Data reported to the Council for Aid to Education.
Average graduation or freshman retention rates, normally based on four years of data, are given here for fewer than four years because school didn't report rates for the most recent year or years to U.S. News.
SAT and/or ACT not required by school for some or all applicants, and data not submitted in form requested by U.S. News. Data may be based on fewer than 50 percent of enrolled freshmen. School refused to fill out U.S. News survey. Data from school's website were used.
School was reclassified by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching in 2006 and appeared in a different category of schools in America's Best Colleges 2007.
New to America's Best Colleges rankings or guide this year.
Peer assessment score taken from America's Best Colleges 2007.

[MirageSmack]

NDCincy, is that info you just posted only talking about UF in this years report, or is that a statement made about thet entire report for all schools?

Specifically, this part is curious.

School refused to fill out U.S. News statistical survey. Data that appear may be from school in previous years or from the National Center for Education Statistics unless otherwise noted.

[daytonirish]

How in the he!! did a thread about Ethan Johnson turn into something about Fla. ? I'mnot trying to be a smart ass or anything but start a thread about the rankings of educational value at each university and lets discuss it on that thread.

HEY I had a good idea. REP ME.

[paddyman]

your right, statistics dont lie...people do.

BTW in case your interested and in the spirit fo full disclosure, here are some disclaimers by US News and World Report on how they get the data to provide their statistics:

* denotes a public school
N/A means not available.
School refused to fill out U.S. News statistical survey. Data that appear may be from school in previous years or from the National Center for Education Statistics unless otherwise noted.
SAT and/or ACT not required by school for some or all applicants.
Data not submitted in the form requested by U.S. News.
Data reported to U.S. News in previous years.
Data based on fewer than 51 percent of enrolled freshmen.
Some or all data reported to the NCAA and/or the National Center for Education Statistics.
Data reported to the Council for Aid to Education.
Average graduation or freshman retention rates, normally based on four years of data, are given here for fewer than four years because school didn't report rates for the most recent year or years to U.S. News.
SAT and/or ACT not required by school for some or all applicants, and data not submitted in form requested by U.S. News. Data may be based on fewer than 50 percent of enrolled freshmen. School refused to fill out U.S. News survey. Data from school's website were used.
School was reclassified by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching in 2006 and appeared in a different category of schools in America's Best Colleges 2007.
New to America's Best Colleges rankings or guide this year.
Peer assessment score taken from America's Best Colleges 2007.


Dont get it. Let it go man, Florida is a good school. thats all i am saying. you act like it is some po dunk trailer park in the middle of a swamp. It is a good school will legitimate programs. Yikes. what are you hanging on to?

[Sureal]

So ETHAN JOHNSON is a good football player, eh? I'm glad ND got him.

[NDisNCin2010]

Dont get it. Let it go man, Florida is a good school. thats all i am saying. you act like it is some po dunk trailer park in the middle of a swamp. It is a good school will legitimate programs. Yikes. what are you hanging on to?

i'm just defending Our Lady here on a ND board from being compared in any way from an academic standpoint to the University of Florida...your right Paddyman UF is a good school...just not a great one, like ND.

[paddyman]

i'm just defending Our Lady here on a ND board from being compared in any way from an academic standpoint to the University of Florida...your right Paddyman UF is a good school...just not a great one, like ND.

your basis for comparison is what i question. we all agree that nd is awesome, but not all schools with questionable football coaches lack educational merit. Academics is what you make of it. The school provides opportunities for students to enrich their lives with knowledge. It is up to the student to see that maximize their education. Those that do so be it, those that dont so be it.

Anyway..yes EJ is a great football player.......

[NDisNCin2010]

OK, back to EJ, wasnt he the recruit who, before committing to ND, researched Michigan's football players and found out that no one on the entire football team majored in Business...

[doogerfuji]

No. scUM has one player in the business school. Their punter.

[paddyman]

http://www.lsa.umich.edu/cg/cg_subjectlist.aspx?termArray=w_08_1670&cgtype=ug&allsections=true

this is the winter course guide for the College of Literature, Science and the Arts ... general studies major. This is the overwhelming major for a majority of the UM players. Ther are some econimics in this college and only two or three Business school majors. The other large major is Kiniseology, sports management/communications.

Per the site:

Bachelor in General Studies

The Bachelor of General Studies (BGS), established in 1968, is a degree option for students with interdisciplinary or alternative academic interests. It allows them to pursue their interests in an individually designed degree program independent of departmental requirements. The BGS is not designed for students who lack a specific educational purpose or direction. Such students ultimately flounder in the freedom of the BGS program for lack of clarity of purpose.

The BGS is ideally suited for students who have specific areas of interest, who see in the flexibility of its degree structure a chance to explore new areas of learning, and who welcome the responsibility of planning their own undergraduate programs. Students may, with the BGS, combine skills, knowledge and experience across departments and academic disciplines. It is also possible to fold into the BGS course work the classes needed to earn a Teaching Certificate, to prepare for entry level business positions or an MBA program, or to prepare for medical, law, or other professional/graduate schools.

The Bachelor of General Studies has the following requirements:

Completion of at least 120 credits of which at least 60 credits are for course work elected at the 300 level and above.
No more than 20 credits of upper division courses of the minimum 60 required credits may be counted from a single department.
Completion of the total academic program in good standing (overall minimum 2.0 grade point average (GPA) for all courses and at least a 2.0 GPA in all successfully completed upper-level course work).
Completion of the LSA composition requirement, both introductory composition and a junior/senior writing course. Students may use a junior/senior writing course that is also part of their 60 credit upper-level requirement.
Completion of the LSA Race & Ethnicity requirement. Students may use an upper-level course approved for this requirement as part of their minimum 60 credits of upper-level work.
Completion of the LSA Quantitative Reasoning requirement. Students may count an upper-level course approved for this requirement as part of their minimum 60 upper-level credits.
A maximum of 20 credits of acceptable non-LSA course work can be applied toward this 120 credit program. Any such course work that is upper-level may be applied toward their 60 credit upper-level requirement. Students should consult the LSA Bulletin or with an advisor to make sure that any non-LSA course work they plan to take will be accepted by the College.
Students earning a BGS do not have to fulfill the LSA Distribution, Concentration, and Foreign Language requirements.

[NDChatt]

http://www.lsa.umich.edu/cg/cg_subjectlist.aspx?termArray=w_08_1670&cgtype=ug&allsections=true

this is the winter course guide for the College of Literature, Science and the Arts ... general studies major. This is the overwhelming major for a majority of the UM players. Ther are some econimics in this college and only two or three Business school majors. The other large major is Kiniseology, sports management/communications.

Per the site:

Bachelor in General Studies

The Bachelor of General Studies (BGS), established in 1968, is a degree option for students with interdisciplinary or alternative academic interests. It allows them to pursue their interests in an individually designed degree program independent of departmental requirements. The BGS is not designed for students who lack a specific educational purpose or direction. Such students ultimately flounder in the freedom of the BGS program for lack of clarity of purpose.

The BGS is ideally suited for students who have specific areas of interest, who see in the flexibility of its degree structure a chance to explore new areas of learning, and who welcome the responsibility of planning their own undergraduate programs. Students may, with the BGS, combine skills, knowledge and experience across departments and academic disciplines. It is also possible to fold into the BGS course work the classes needed to earn a Teaching Certificate, to prepare for entry level business positions or an MBA program, or to prepare for medical, law, or other professional/graduate schools.

The Bachelor of General Studies has the following requirements:

Completion of at least 120 credits of which at least 60 credits are for course work elected at the 300 level and above.
No more than 20 credits of upper division courses of the minimum 60 required credits may be counted from a single department.
Completion of the total academic program in good standing (overall minimum 2.0 grade point average (GPA) for all courses and at least a 2.0 GPA in all successfully completed upper-level course work).
Completion of the LSA composition requirement, both introductory composition and a junior/senior writing course. Students may use a junior/senior writing course that is also part of their 60 credit upper-level requirement.
Completion of the LSA Race & Ethnicity requirement. Students may use an upper-level course approved for this requirement as part of their minimum 60 credits of upper-level work.
Completion of the LSA Quantitative Reasoning requirement. Students may count an upper-level course approved for this requirement as part of their minimum 60 upper-level credits.
A maximum of 20 credits of acceptable non-LSA course work can be applied toward this 120 credit program. Any such course work that is upper-level may be applied toward their 60 credit upper-level requirement. Students should consult the LSA Bulletin or with an advisor to make sure that any non-LSA course work they plan to take will be accepted by the College.
Students earning a BGS do not have to fulfill the LSA Distribution, Concentration, and Foreign Language requirements.

Guys, I can tell you that, in general, a BGS degree is one of the easiest if not the easiest degree to obtain. To me, it is a worthless degree that is made available for career students and athletes.

[daytonirish]

Yeah Sureal I agree Ethan Johnson is a good player and I can't wait to see how well he plays once he suits up for the Fighting Irish of Notre Dame.

[IrishKnight1023]

The most hijacked thread of all time

[NDisNCin2010]

is Ethan down in San Antone this week?
i didnt think he was, but someone told me that he was...anyone know for sure?

[marv81s]

he's not, he is at home, rehabbing his knee

invited, but didn't make the trip

[NDisNCin2010]

ETHAN IS IRISH!!!










(just in case y'all forgot...)



(this kids the next Strahan)

[NotreDameNate]

Man, stop that... at this time of year I get pretty worried when I see something about a current commit, lol.

[NDisNCin2010]

Man, stop that... at this time of year I get pretty worried when I see something about a current commit, lol.

LOL..i didnt want to post for that reason, rather the opposite reason...imagine if all our 22 commits were on the fence right now, and they all started committing to ND in these last few weeks and ultimately on LOI day....we would be ecstatic! i love who we have, we cant lose sight of that as we, from a recruitnik point of view, march quietly to LOI day for this 2008 class, which will be ine for the ages!

[NDGirlzRock]

ETHAN IS IRISH!!!










(just in case y'all forgot...)



(this kids the next Strahan)

Dude are you trying to give everyone a heart attack!!!

[zimmsbg78]

http://www.irishsportsdaily.com/football/premium-football (free)


Senior defensive end Ethan Johnson is a new man this fall. He is bigger, stronger, and according to Johnson’s own self-assessment, he is as healthy as he’s ever been during his Notre Dame career.

As he prepares for his final season in South Bend, the senior lineman has set lofty goals for his team, the defensive unit, and also for himself. His improved physique, health, and conditioning give him confidence he can attain those goals.

“It’s funny, after each football season I’ve had to try to recover from the football season,” Johnson said. “My body feels terrible. Freshman year was rough because I was a freshman and I wasn’t used to the work volume I needed to be prepared for. After my sophomore year I was coming off a few injuries and I just needed to recover. I lost 20 pounds throughout the year. I started at 290 and went down to 270.”

The fluctuation in weight was something the new staff wanted to rectify immediately.

“When Coach (Brian) Kelly got me, he was like, 270 pound defensive end, he needs to gain some weight,” Johnson said with a laugh, reflecting on the initial comments by the Irish coach. “So I put on some good weight but I was still recovering.”

As Johnson got healthier and more acclimated in the new strength and conditioning program implemented by Paul Longo, he experienced something foreign to him during his Notre Dame career. By the end of the year, his body felt very good, and he was actually bigger than he was when he started the season.

“This last year I actually put on 10 to 12 pounds during the year and I felt good during the season,” said an excited Johnson. “I was able to go home and just rest and not necessarily feel like, Oh I need to recover and then gain all that muscle back I worked so hard to get on my body.”

“So it’s the first time I felt like I didn’t have to regain work that I’d already done,” Johnson said of how he feels entering the 2011 season. “I started off in a better situation than I started with last season, as far as that goes my body feels great.”

Johnson has fully embraced the changes that have been brought about by the new coaching regime. The changes in coaching style and the changes to the strength and conditioning program have greatly attributed to his improved stamina and play.

“It’s the weight program, it’s how we practice, it’s really everything,” said the 300-pound end. “Coach Kelly has done a great job making the situation for us that we can grow and not take steps back. We’ve got a training table, we’ve got a great training program.”

The difference in how the Irish practice has also been a factor.

“They make sure you’re getting a lot of work in practice but they aren’t going to gas you to the point where you can’t recover and feel terrible the next practice,” Johnson said of the Irish coaches. “They want you to take steps forward every day. So if you’re messing up on something they’re not going to drain you. They’re going to keep reminding you and eventually you’re going to get it.”

“It’s that understanding that you can’t win every game every practice,” continued Johnson. “You have to improve every day.”

His improved strength and conditioning is not the only factor that has gone into Johnson’s improved confidence. The senior has played significant minutes each of his three years in South Bend. The experience he gained during his first three years at Notre Dame has also helped prepare him for what he hopes to be a big senior season.

“Playing wise I feel like I’ve played almost every kind of position on the defensive line in a game situation,” Johnson said. “I’ve played nose, I’ve played d-tackle, I’ve played end, I’ve played loose end, I’ve played almost every single technique so it’s just great having that kind of experience.”

“I’m finally settling down into a position I’m comfortable with,” continued the Portland native. “I feel like my body just knows what to do. I don’t have to necessarily think about what I’m doing all the time.”

Last fall, as Johnson began to feel more comfortable in the defense, his play continued to mature and improve. Johnson and fellow end Kapron Lewis-Moore were playing very good football by the end of the season, and the two ends were a big reason the Irish were able to shut down opposing ground attacks late in the season.

Johnson believes he came into this fall a much improved player, even beyond where he was when he finished the 2010 season.

“I even improved since the spring,” Johnson said. “I’m looking to be a better player than I was the last game that we played, a much better player. I expect a lot of myself and I’m looking to make as many plays as possible within the defense and help us win as many games as we can.”

Johnson knows where he must improve his game. The senior knows what he must do to reach his goals, and he is going to do what it takes to get to that point.

“I’m looking to have a great motor,” Johnson said of where he plans to improve this fall. “I definitely want to be the kind of guy I was my freshman year, which is just every play I’m running to the ball. You can see I’m always running to the ball and I’m going to get there.”

“I just want to dominate every play,” Johnson concluded, with a look of sheer determination on his face.

For Notre Dame to reach its 2011 goals as a defense and play the level most expect, Johnson will have to become the player he says he can be. If that happens, he will have finally lived up to his five-star billing, and the Irish defense will have found its front seven game-changer.

[Purebred Irishman]

The workout they are referring to in this quote is the ND pro day today

Clausen and Floyd reunite for Pro Day | Inside the Irish (http://irish.nbcsports.com/2012/04/02/clausen-and-floyd-reunite-for-pro-day/)


Senior defensive end Ethan Johnson, who had the potential to chase a professional career, will not workout, choosing to retire from football after four seasons with the Irish.

[NDgrandson]

The workout they are referring to in this quote is the ND pro day today

Clausen and Floyd reunite for Pro Day | Inside the Irish (http://irish.nbcsports.com/2012/04/02/clausen-and-floyd-reunite-for-pro-day/)

I wish him the best. Without Ethan our cupboard would have been bare at D line for his first few years. Great guy, I assume he will be a success in whatever he does.

[JMR8]

I believe he earned his business degree, correct? High profile player out of HS whose playing career is now over. That's why you make the 40 year decision! Thank you for your blood, sweat, and tears over the past 4 seasons. Good luck, and God bless Ethan!

[marv81s]

EJ and KLM

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/475474_439649886064563_155703994459155_1569716_869 290540_o.jpg

[southbend62]

Fantastic to see them at graduation. Well done fellas.

[jbrown_9999]

EJ and KLM

Please tell me everyone else in the picture is sitting...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/475474_439649886064563_155703994459155_1569716_869 290540_o.jpg

[Purebred Irishman]

Well done to all the graduates from this class