'09 IL QB Jon Budmayr (Wisconsin LOI) [Archive]

NDgrandson

12-09-2007, 12:29 AM

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December 7, 2007

Irish interested in junior QB

Steve Hare
IrishIllustrated.com

With offers from Northwestern and Wisconsin already to his credit, junior quarterback Jon Budmayr has emerged as one of the top signal callers in the Class of 2009.

6'1" 185 lbs ???

irishunclebill

02-13-2008, 10:35 PM

Budmayr will be attending ND's 2/24 Junior Day.

robdog_5

02-13-2008, 10:52 PM

I watched his new film on rivals and he is pretty solid player. Don't think he is going to be a 5 star but a solid low 4 or high 3 IMO

Svoboda

04-27-2008, 11:53 AM

Holds offers from Arizona, Illinois, Nebraska, Northwestern and Wisconsin. He's probably in the 2nd group of QBs that the Irish will be looking into, so don't surprised if he gets an offer before long.

SoCalDomer

05-11-2008, 01:50 PM

Budmayr named MVP of the Nike Ohio Camp held this past friday.

NDGirlzRock

05-11-2008, 02:02 PM

Eventhough I'm leaning toward Newton Morgan for our next offer, you have to be impressed with this MVP award. Does anyone remember the fact that the greatest QB of all times, and ND alum, was only 6'1" himself. My point is that maybe we should give this kid more of a chance. Height is not the measure of a man and his overall ability.

irishziggy

05-11-2008, 02:17 PM

agreed, Drew Brees & Rex Grossman were both good College QBs, we dont need 1st rd picks at the QB position every year. We just need guys with the intangibles that can sling it and have the "it" factor.

BTW, it's Morgan Newton not Newton Morgan lol

NDGirlzRock

05-11-2008, 10:13 PM

drewsko

05-12-2008, 09:27 PM

Offered per scout

irishunclebill

05-12-2008, 10:17 PM

The offer is confirmed on the Blue and Gold offer list.

bayirish

05-12-2008, 10:56 PM

So what are the chances we land this kid? I love his film, looks like a tough kid. He played with Cwynar, so we got that going for us, which is nice.

irishunclebill

05-13-2008, 08:51 AM

So what are the chances we land this kid? I love his film, looks like a tough kid. He played with Cwynar, so we got that going for us, which is nice.

The consensus is probably that there is a better than 90% chance that Budmayr will commit unless he is a little ticked that it took ND this long to offer him, or wants to wait to see what being named MVP at the recent NIKE combine means to his recruitment. However the 2nd part should not factor into his decision unless the first part does as it was generally considered that ND was the offer he wanted most.

IrishGrizz

05-13-2008, 10:12 AM

IUB- (or scoop or Dayton or ....) any feel for if he does commit, what his timeline may be? either sometime this summer or before the season or after?

irishunclebill

05-13-2008, 10:27 AM

IUB- (or scoop or Dayton or ....) any feel for if he does commit, what his timeline may be? either sometime this summer or before the season or after?

Budmayr has stated previously on many occassions that he will make his decision before his senior season begins. Most likely he will make it any time between the end of the current evaluation period (May 31) and the beginning of fall practice, but my guess is that it will be sooner rather than later.

NDGirlzRock

05-13-2008, 12:46 PM

BGI has an article up about Budmayr receiving his offer!!!

daytonirish

05-13-2008, 03:20 PM

IG you guess right. It will be sometime soon, before the season or after the season. :rofl:

IrishGrizz

05-13-2008, 04:41 PM

Thats one way to read what I posted. :drooling:

It sounded so intelligent when it was in my head. i meant it as a choice to pick out of. Never mind. i'll go back to sleep again.

(damn those people who actually READ what I wrote. I thought no one could read on this site.)

daytonirish

05-13-2008, 05:24 PM

I can't someone reads this stuff to me.

Jiggafini19

05-14-2008, 10:42 AM

This is "when", not "if" folks.

IrishGrizz

05-14-2008, 12:28 PM

jiggafini- then When?

HoffVir

05-20-2008, 01:12 PM

Badger, Badger, Badger, per a Whisky site.

irishunclebill

05-20-2008, 01:13 PM

Badger, Badger, Badger, per a Whisky site.

Get ready for the angst!!

Fishin'_Irish

05-20-2008, 01:31 PM

Didn't see that comin'. Bigger surprise than Shrive. Hole-lee shit.

irishunclebill

05-20-2008, 01:33 PM

This is "when", not "if" folks.

ET really screwed this one up, and somebody please put out a BOLO for II from the 4HL. He should be placed under guard for at least the next 72 hours. Either that or somebody send him a lot of :alcoholic::alcoholic::alcoholic::alcoholic:

IrishChieftain777

05-20-2008, 01:34 PM

This is surprising, though not devastating. I'm sure Charlie believes there are plenty more solid QB's left on his board. Plus, it's not like we needed to hit a home run here.

Fishin'_Irish

05-20-2008, 01:42 PM

This is surprising, though not devastating. I'm sure Charlie believes there are plenty more solid QB's left on his board. Plus, it's not like we needed to hit a home run here.

Well said. I can't blame him for his decision, but that doesn't make it any less surprising. Good luck to him at Wisconsin.

irishunclebill

05-20-2008, 01:44 PM

This is surprising, though not devestating. I'm sure Charlie believes there are plenty more solid QB's left on his board. Plus, it's not like we needed to hit a home run here.

The problem here is that any competitive QB is not going to be all that keen about sitting #3 on the depth chart until his Senior Year. If Budmayr was not willing to do this in order to get an ND education, I have a feeling CW is going to have a difficult time finding someone who will. A better tact which I am sure the staff has already considered is to make sure that they can recruit someone this year who is not necessarily a college QB prospect, but could fill that slot on the ND depth chart if needed until CW can recruit another Clausen/Crist type QB. Either that or dig deeper into the QB pool to find a kid who is willing to sit for three years, maybe that Lone Ranger kid from Mississippi. In any case this makes recruits like E.J. Banks and Brandon McGee an even more valuable commodity for ND as they can fill that role on the depth chart in a pinch. Or if we dare to dream (or delude as the case may be), how about Rueben Randle, who is going to play QB his Senior Year, and is making noises like that is a position he might prefer in college.

Ricochet

05-20-2008, 01:53 PM

At this point I'm sure Weis and Co. are going to take a very raw but talented QB thats nothing more than a project at this time and to see if they can't mold him into a top flight QB.

irishunclebill

05-20-2008, 01:57 PM

At this point I'm sure Weis and Co. are going to take a very raw but talented QB thats nothing more than a project at this time and to see if they can't mold him into a top flight QB.

Speak of the devil. In a sign that ND was not all that certain about Budmayr, they visited someone in that mold just last week, TX QB Drew Allen. Look for his profile to be up shortly.

NDGirlzRock

05-20-2008, 02:45 PM

Somewhat surprising, but I wish him luck!!! On a side note....we got really spoiled in the last recruiting cycle!!! The sky will not fall because we take a 3 or 4* guy at QB or several other positions this year!!! Just looked at some Drew Allen film and I'm just as impressed with him as Budmayr!!! Plus he's bigger and much faster!!!

daytonirish

05-20-2008, 03:18 PM

WHAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A 3 0r 4 * QB at ND. I don't know what this staff thinks it is doing this yr as far as recruiting. We can't get anyone to commit what are we going to do. :ro
Good luck to him at Wisconsin. Now we will here the call for Charlie and Staff to offer Newton.

IrishGrizz

05-20-2008, 04:14 PM

This is "when", not "if" folks.

Funny how those so quick to call a recruit an absolute lock and guarantee are silent when wrong. I am not saying Jigga did this, but others are often quick to dog someone out for expressing doubts or concerns of a player being a lock until the verbal or sign. This is the reason I never consider any athlete a lock until the verbal or signed letter is received.

irishunclebill

05-20-2008, 04:26 PM

Funny how those so quick to call a recruit an absolute lock and guarantee are silent when wrong. I am not saying Jigga did this, but others are often quick to dog someone out for expressing doubts or concerns of a player being a lock until the verbal or sign. This is the reason I never consider any athlete a lock until the verbal or signed letter is received.

Jigga does not stop by here every day so I'll defend his comment. As I implied in the post above, the info that Budmayr was a virtual lock came from a usually very reliable source as well as from some ND message board posters who are close to the Budmayr family. However, I agree with you Grizz, until the fat lady actually belts one out, IMO no one is a lock.

There is a guy on a board that you frequent who often calls recruits locks and in some cases actually say they have committed to the Irish before any public announcement. He claims that he gets "inside info", when in actuality he just reads the message boards and corresponds with other dopey message boarders like us. Based on this he tries to make educated guesses ahead of actual announcements, which is fine if you acknowledge that is what you are doing, instead of putting on the infamous "inside info" mantle. So basically the guy is a fraud, yet when he gets one right, that board's members proclaim him a :wizard:, conveniently forgetting how many times his "inside info" is completely wrong.

IrishGrizz

05-20-2008, 04:41 PM

Jigga does not stop by here every day so I'll defend his comment. As I implied in the post above, the info that Budmayr was a virtual lock came from a usually very reliable source as well as from some ND message board posters who are close to the Budmayr family. However, I agree with you Grizz, until the fat lady actually belts one out, IMO no one is a lock.

There is a guy on a board that you frequent who often calls recruits locks and in some cases actually say they have committed to the Irish before any public announcement. He claims that he gets "inside info", when in actuality he just reads the message boards and corresponds with other dopey message boarders like us. Based on this he tries to make educated guesses ahead of actual announcements, which is fine if you acknowledge that is what you are doing, instead of putting on the infamous "inside info" mantle. So basically the guy is a fraud, yet when he gets one right, that board's members proclaim him a :wizard:, conveniently forgetting how many times his "inside info" is completely wrong.

IUB- I did note that Jigga wasn't one of the guys who dogs you out for disagreeing, and You always say 90% chance or what you think is the likelihood. That works for me.
Its just a difference in attitude/style of guys. I don't brag well or trash talk- that was not done back in the day of Dinosaurs when I grew up. :olegeezer::dead:

irishunclebill

05-20-2008, 04:45 PM

IUB- I did note that Jigga wasn't one of the guys who dogs you out for disagreeing, and You always say 90% chance or what you think is the likelihood. That works for me.
Its just a difference in attitude/style of guys. I don't brag well or trash talk- that was not done back in the day of Dinosaurs when I grew up. :olegeezer::dead:

LOL- if you grew up in the Dinosaur Age, when the hell did I grow up.:olegeezer::olegeezer:

IrishGrizz

05-20-2008, 04:50 PM

We probably did at the same time. Don't you remember the clan of the cave bear?

noklife

05-20-2008, 04:51 PM

Anyone know why we haven't offered Morgan Newton?

IrishGrizz

05-20-2008, 04:55 PM

He may be in the mix, but I personally don't think he fits the offense as well. I wonder if Mossak... or the new texas QB or Nuss or Moore might get the next offer.????

zmoney281

05-20-2008, 05:24 PM

Newton has got to get the next offer. After him there is a steep drop off in QBs that we want or are intrested. Personally I liked Newton from the beginning. But good luck to Jon in Madison.

SoCalDomer

05-20-2008, 05:31 PM

Anyone know why we haven't offered Morgan Newton?

cause Charlie likes cookies, not Newtons?

HoffVir

05-20-2008, 06:02 PM

:whoknows: cause Charlie likes cookies not, Newtons?

Boooooooooooooooo :bigsmile:

The Jester

05-20-2008, 09:07 PM

I don't brag well or trash talk- that was not done back in the day of Dinosaurs when I grew up.

I wish I grew up in the age of dinosaurs.

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:8ST1zINcrxMppM:http://images.tvrage.net/shows/4/3316.png

SoCalDomer

05-20-2008, 09:16 PM

Boooooooooooooooo :bigsmile:

what? that cracked my 3yr old son up.

scooper

05-20-2008, 09:32 PM

what? that cracked my 3yr old son up.

You can simply say the word "booger" and my 3 year old will crack up. Color me unimpressed.

heh heh. booger.

SoCalDomer

05-20-2008, 10:05 PM

but in your son's defense, saying booger is kinda funny. see, even you have to admit that.

marv81s

05-20-2008, 11:34 PM

Newton has got to get the next offer. After him there is a steep drop off in QBs that we want or are intrested. Personally I liked Newton from the beginning. But good luck to Jon in Madison.

I'm willing to bet that there are probably 2 recruits ahead of Newton on the list of potential offers

NDgrandson

05-21-2008, 12:55 AM

Let me chime in to the Bud the Badger thread and say, WTF? Wow!

Who's next years top QB that we REALLY want?

Regardless of who we get this year, I think the 2010 QB recruit has a better chance of taking the helm after Crist. That is assuming Crist gets a 5th and takes it.

SouthernIrish

05-21-2008, 08:04 AM

Dayton,
Perhaps you are referring to my excitement about the lack of OT offers, perhaps not. Either case, I'm not worried about QB when we just signed 2 of the best recruits in the nation the last 2 yrs and only 1 can be on the field at 1 time AND they both have plenty of eligiblity left. It is going to be tough to sign a QB this year. We'll just have to wait and see.

IrishGrizz

05-21-2008, 12:09 PM

I wish I grew up in the age of dinosaurs.

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:8ST1zINcrxMppM:http://images.tvrage.net/shows/4/3316.png

That was a fun time. That show was one of my favorites. What was the name? (I have CRS.):drooling::dead:

zmoney281

05-21-2008, 12:25 PM

I'm willing to bet that there are probably 2 recruits ahead of Newton on the list of potential offers

Like who? Im just curious.

IrishGrizz

05-21-2008, 12:28 PM

Like who? Im just curious.

I'm gonna guess Brehaut and Mossakowski.

Now someone who knows much more on this will tell us the real deal! :bigsmile:

irishunclebill

05-21-2008, 12:36 PM

Like who? Im just curious.

Budmayr going elsewhere may have changed things, but prior to that there was no indication that an offer to Newton was imminent. Brehaut, Mossakowski, and now Allen all seem to be next in line if ND is going to offer another QB.

The reason for this appears to be just as much Newton's lack of interest in ND, as ND's lack of interest in him. Newton has not been on the ND campus at all this year, his last visit was for the 2007 GT game. Meanwhile he has been on numerous visits all over the Midwest and Mid-Atlantic states to see other schools. Now the reason for that could very well be that he is familiar enough with ND that he did not need to visit South Bend this Spring, but I get the distinct impression that the Irish staff wanted to see more of Newton to determine his interest level and decide whether to offer him. Since that did not happen, it appears that he has fallen further down on ND's QB recruit chart for this year.

That could all change overnight but right now I'm with Marv in that I would be surprised if Newton were the next QB to get an offer.

irishunclebill

05-23-2008, 07:09 PM

Profile Updated with Scout Star Rating and Position Ranking. Rivals has not yet rated this recruit.

BGIF

10-31-2008, 05:36 AM

due to broken collarbone that required season ending surgery.

Luginbill

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/columns/story?columnist=luginbill_tom&id=3667035 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/columns/story?columnist=luginbill_tom&id=3667035)

wicket

05-16-2009, 08:16 AM

losing this guy is atually quite painfull when you look at the question marks in this years qb class. Feels like a way bigger loss now (at least to me) then it did at the time it happened

NDgrandson

05-16-2009, 06:54 PM

Good call wicket. Way to pull that one out of the archives.

marv81s

05-17-2009, 12:44 AM

he was never ND's to lose, he was always Wisconsin's to lose

Wisconsin was on Jon for far longer than ND was, so it was always an uphill climb for ND.

wicket

09-22-2010, 02:37 PM

And with the michigan game in mind screwing up this recruitment seemed even more painful

marv81s

09-23-2010, 08:14 AM

despite beliefs to the contrary, Weis and ND did not screw this recruitment up.

everyone was playing catch up with Wisconsin, they were on him very early in his recruitment and they were his top choice for that reason. He had a very strong relationship with them