'08 KS LB Arthur Brown (Miami LOI/ Transfer to Kansas State)) [Archive]

irishunclebill

08-06-2007, 04:39 PM

Cut down day for Arthur Brown has been set for September 17, same day as Chancey Aghayere is supposed to make his announcement.

Brown will cut his list to 10 schools, although not in any order of favorites, but at the same time, he will announce where he will take his 5 Official Visits. Under normal circumstances you would have to assume that the schools getting the 5 Official Visits would in fact then be his favorites. However, that may not be the case here as Brown just finished visiting about 20 schools in the Southeast, and he may actually want to take Officials to schools on his Top 10 list that he has not seen already. There is no inkling at this time of who the 10 schools will be. I would presume that Oklahoma, USC, and Miami will be in the Top 10, as well as Nebraska, Kansas, and Florida. I would not be overly surprised if ND made the Top 10 cut, but I would not get too excited about it. If he decides to take an Official Visit to South Bend, and there is a possibility of that if ND makes the cut, I would get a liittle bit excited, but seeing how Brown has laid this out, getting an Official from him does not neccessarily mean that he is seriously considering the school that he is visiting. He may actually use the Official Visits to make sure that he is correct in ruling out certain schools.

He also is planning on taking 3 Official Visits during his football season, and 2 after the season is over, which should be in November. In the unlikely event that he does schedule an Official to Notre Dame, hopefully he will schedule it in September or early October. In any case, Brown looks like a 2008 decision date so a lot of schools will be holding their breath on this one for quite awhile.

IrishKnight1023

08-06-2007, 04:47 PM

I know he's great and all, but I'm not really interested in him at ND. Seems like a ME player. He has already said he doesn't want to gain weight to be heavier than 215 (That's a problem) and that he doesn't want to play ILB. Where does he fit in then? I guess he's good enough to play somewhere else, but I'd rather not deal with him and his agent. Our coaches said we were only pursuing ONE defensive player left. Well that man is Sabino so it shows how serious our coaches are about Brown and his entourage headed by his Pimp agent.

ND Fanatic

08-06-2007, 05:25 PM

I'd rather not deal with him and his agent.

He's calling him his "mentor" now....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

rontdtarchala

08-06-2007, 05:34 PM

I just want sabino, not saying brown isn't a good kid...I'm sure he is...but I want a team guy and sabino hasn't seemed like a me me me guy...

irishunclebill

08-30-2007, 10:09 AM

Arthur Brown, through his advisor/guru, has established a very specific plan for the rest of his recruitment.

1) On September 17 he will announce his Final 10 cut, and at the same time will announce his 5 Official Visits. Brown's camp has been very consistent in saying that the 5 Official Visit list will not neccessarily be his Top 5 as he wants to use some of the Official Visits to visit schools (like ND) that he has not seen before. So, if ND is on the Official Visit list it may not mean a whole lot. However, if ND is in his Final 10, but not on his Official Visit List, then the ND name is simply being used to posture. Both the Final 10 and the 5 Official Visit lists is supposed to be posted on the PotentialPlayers.com website, but as of now that domain name has no info attached to it.

2) Brown will make no further public cut-downs of his Final 10, and will make his college choice announcement on December 17.

3) I have not seen this before but unless he was misquoted Brown's advisor seems to be indicating that Brown plans to be an EE, thus the mid-December announcement schedule.

irish21

08-30-2007, 11:11 AM

He doesnt want to be heavier than 215, so why is he listed at 225? I guess its wrong, but if he wants to stay on the small side at 215, he will most likely end up at Oklahoma, Miami ,FSU, or an SEC school because these teams usually have linebackers in the 210-220 pound range.

NDgrandson

08-30-2007, 09:59 PM

KamaraPolice

08-30-2007, 11:23 PM

Huh? :confused: This dude will :mad: shuck fit up :eek: at any school he wants at 225 lbs.

I agree. Size is overrated.

irishunclebill

09-07-2007, 11:28 AM

Brown's advisor is now saying that he will name 16 schools as his finalists on 9/17 and will still be announcing his 5 Official Visits on the same day.

The advisor's website (potentialplayers.com) is finally up, and has only one player profile listed, which of course is Arthur Brown. The link below takes you to Brown's profile on this website which has a list of 15 schools as his college choices, ND is not one of them.

LOL- maybe the Irish will be the missing 16th! I'm kind of hoping that Arthur does not intend to use the Irish for show. This guy's website gives you a clue as to where his head is at for Arthur Brown, it has very few details and photos, yet somehow he managed to get a picture of the Poodle in there. Hopefully Brown will end up staying close to home so ND does not have to see him at all during his CFB days.

http://www.potentialplayers.com/player_detail.aspx?id=1

NDGirlzRock

09-07-2007, 11:44 AM

FWIW a 17 on the ACT isn't that good!

irishunclebill

09-10-2007, 11:44 AM

Well, I got my wish at least Arthur Brown will not use the Irish for show as he has announced his Final 16 cut list and ND was not the missing 16th team from last week. If anyone is interested you can see the 16 teams at the potential players website at this link:

http://www.potentialplayers.com/player_detail.aspx?id=1

CULion17

10-24-2007, 05:22 PM

IUB,

Any truth to the rumors that he and his brother are visiting for Navy game?!?!?!

IrishCalves

10-24-2007, 05:55 PM

I'm more than over this guy. His whole entourage thing never struck me as productive. Great player, but I don't think he even fits our scheme - said he wants to stay about 220 pounds as an OLB (assuming he played in a 4-3). I think its just rumor.

EDIT: Insert foot into mouth. Maybe B&G is on to something. Still... I'm staying back on this one.

NDGirlzRock

10-24-2007, 07:07 PM

I'll believe it when I see it!!!

irishunclebill

10-24-2007, 10:32 PM

IUB,

Any truth to the rumors that he and his brother are visiting for Navy game?!?!?!

Not that I'm aware of. This whole thing started because CB is going to visit Harper this week who just happens to live in the same town as the Brown brothers. My understanding is that after CB visits Harper, he will be making a courtesy call to the Brown boys, mostly just to say hey to Arthur I would assume, but serious talk with Bryce to see if he has any real interest at all in ND, or at least enough to warrant giving him an offer. Not sure how this turned into a wildfire of them visiting for the Navy game, wait, I take that back, I forgot these are message boards.:D

NDisNCin2010

11-10-2007, 11:36 AM

per Rivals, Oklahoma is OFF A. Browns list:

Arthur Brown drops Sooners from consideration

Carey Murdock
SoonerScoop.com

Talk about recruiting bombshells. Arthur Brown dropped one of the biggest shakeups on the Oklahoma recruiting world in recent memory late this evening.

Brown's advisor, Brian Butler, called SoonerScoop.com this evening to make the announcement that Arthur Brown will no longer be considering The University of Oklahoma as a potential collegiate destination in 2008.

Check inside for all the latest information on why Brown dropped the Sooners from consideration.

benneboy

11-10-2007, 12:34 PM

brownkj002

11-10-2007, 12:35 PM

Wow, that's very surprising. Does USC look to be the leader now?

therizz

11-10-2007, 12:49 PM

I would guess that it's FL/USC

Fishin'_Irish

11-11-2007, 03:10 AM

This is definitely news, but not so much for us. I think everyone here agrees that ND isn't the place for him, nor him the guy for ND. Bryce, on the other hand, I wouldn't mind seeing on campus come '09.

daytonirish

11-30-2007, 07:50 AM

That and they are going to pull in at least three more. And one big surprise.

NDGirlzRock

11-30-2007, 08:23 AM

That and they are going to pull in at least three more. And one big surprise.

Who's your big surprise dayton?

daytonirish

11-30-2007, 08:32 AM

Don't want to ruin surprise. But he plays LB and his initals are AB. And I also heard Charlie will be in attendence tonite to watch NDGirlz and the rest of the womens team advance to the final 4. :D

therizz

11-30-2007, 08:48 AM

Dayton, are you serious? 3 more commits PLUS the one you referred to? Or, are you just creating some dialog?

jfschellcrna

11-30-2007, 08:57 AM

Don't want to ruin surprise. But he plays LB and his initals are AB. And I also heard Charlie will be in attendence tonite to watch NDGirlz and the rest of the womens team advance to the final 4. :D
dayton, put down that blunt and step way from the table.............

daytonirish

11-30-2007, 09:02 AM

It's Friday and I'm just having some fun. But yeah I would love AB to be a big surprise on signing day.

irishunclebill

11-30-2007, 09:04 AM

Dayton, are you serious? 3 more commits PLUS the one you referred to? Or, are you just creating some dialog?

I don't know whether he is serious or not, and I wonder if this is the same surprise that NDisNCin2010 keeps hinting about. It should not be because his surprise is supposed to happen around NSD, and Arthur Brown is making his announcement jointly with Chris Harper in Wichita on 12/17.

Here is the link to Arthur Brown's Profile on his guru's website.

Arthur Brown Profile (http://potentialplayers.com/player_detail.aspx?id=1)

According to this website, Brown dropped ND long ago, and has shown no interest in the Irish at all except for a bogus rumor that was spread about him coming for the Navy game. His profile shows the following schools being considered:

Kansas State
USC
Florida
North Carolina
Miami
Georgia
Georgia Tech
LSU

There is no reason that I have seen for Brown and his guru to be spreading any misinformation about the schools he is interested in. In fact they made a splash recently by publicly dropping Oklahoma from the list, and they immediately updated this profile when that happened. Maybe Dayton is just playing, or maybe he heard this from somewhere, but FWIW IMO ND is not even within sniff range of AB's radar scope.

irishunclebill

11-30-2007, 09:07 AM

FYI- here is Chris Harper's profile from the same website which shows that ND is still under consideration.

Chris Harper Profile (http://potentialplayers.com/player_detail.aspx?id=10)

irishunclebill

11-30-2007, 09:11 AM

More on Arthur Brown's recruiting mindset is listed in an article on the same website detailing why he dropped Oklahoma.

Why Arthur Brown Cut OU (http://potentialplayers.com/news_events_detail.aspx?id=16)

Why Arthur Brown Cut OU

11/11/2007
When Arthur Brown Jr. decided to cut OU this week the people that were close to him didn't treat it any differently than when he cut other schools previously. Arthur, Mr. Brown and Brian Butler have had a consistent message throughout the recruiting process: All the teams that remain on his list are equal.

Now the recruiting services on the other hand....

There has been word for months that a lead analyst for a recruiting service started the vicious rumor about AB leaning towards OU. He didn't get this from any reliable source. He gave his opinion and people jumped on board without listening to the facts that were coming directly from the Brown family or Butler.

People shouldn't blame Arthur for being fair to each school recruiting him and should applaud him for how he his handling his recruiting. He respectfully has called each coach that he has cut from the top 10 and attempted to speak with them directly. Instead of having them read it on the internet and then trying to catch up with him. The reason Arthur cut OU was because he felt that OU didn't fit his personality as well as the other schools.

Arthur's 1st priority is finding a place that he enjoys going to school even if football wasn't in the picture.

This also was not a racially motivated decision. While Arthur enjoys being a black man, he is not prejudice and wouldn't make a decision based off the skin color of a coach. And for those who are implying that, they're probably racist themselves.

OU obviously is a great program, it's just not the place that Arthur Brown Jr. chooses to attend. There are other great programs that he won't be attending as well.

PP-11/10/07

grungejunky

11-30-2007, 09:26 AM

fun idea. but do we really want a kid who is misleading 10 schools than? i just think thats representative of a kid with some poor character. if we were on his top 10 list and he chose another team not even on it, we would crucify the kid on this board. worse than sweat and beal. with that said i hope this crazy ass rumor is true, i don't think it would take long to learn to live with it if we were on the winning end.

daytonirish

11-30-2007, 09:31 AM

IUB, I don't have any info on AB or any other recruit. But with the way Charlie,Corwin,and the rest of the staff have recruited this year. Why can't I be delusional once in a while and hoe it happens. Even though I really don't think it will. :)

irishunclebill

11-30-2007, 09:34 AM

daytonirish

11-30-2007, 09:37 AM

I'll try to remeber that IUB, but sometimes it just happens. You know the delusional part. :D Think I might have caught it from stoney & spinner.

irishunclebill

11-30-2007, 10:04 AM

I'll try to remeber that IUB, but sometimes it just happens. You know the delusional part. :D Think I might have caught it from stoney & spinner.

The Stony & Spinner part is perfectly understandable. Being rep whores can easily make you delusional. I know I was during my one day of being a rep whore.;)

I should probably explain why I sort of jumped on the AB rumor. I am a little sensitive about any "suprise commit" rumors that I hear because of a lesson learned when I was still a naive little pup on the ND message boards. About this time last year, a certain poster on Irish Envy who supposedly had access to inside information, and who shall remain nameless here, started a rumor that ND would have at least one and most likely 2 "surprise" committments on NSD. Throughout the next two months while ND was losing out on Donald, Tez, Regis Benn, Ben Martin, and others, and even after JT bolted for UrbieLand, this guy persisted with this surprise story line playing out on NSD. Needless to say, my naivete got the best of me because of the other disappointments of last January, and I believed him. When NSD rolled around and ND not only did not pick up any of these "surprise commits", but in fact lost the Littles as well, it left a very bad taste in my mouth, but at least rid me of my naivete. From that point on I was much more skeptical of anyone claiming to have "inside information", hence my skewering of TAA earlier this year when he was passing on bogus "inside info" on the likes of Hale, Sabino, and others.

Anyway, I know you were just having a little fun, and I know you have never used the dreaded "inside info" tag, but I thought I'd share my mindset on this subject so you would know where I was coming from with my responses.

daytonirish

11-30-2007, 10:28 AM

It's all good IUb sometimes I forget that some people take things serious when you are messing around. And by the way other members responded I should have clarified myself. Besides I'm just like everyone else on GH. If I don't here it from IUB when it comes to recruits then I remain skeptical until IUB confirms it. :cool:

ALLND62

11-30-2007, 10:55 AM

Besides I'm just like everyone else on GH. If I don't here it from IUB when it comes to recruits then I remain skeptical until IUB confirms it. :cool:
daytonirish you got that right........keep up the good work IUB:)

GoldenShower

12-05-2007, 04:08 PM

While digging for Harper, I came across this for those still interested.

http://www.kansas.com/sports/updates/story/246767.html

Looks like Brown just chopped K. State, thereby eliminating the only common thread still left between him and Harper. Brown has NC, Miami, LSU, USC, and Florida. Go 'Heels!

irishunclebill

12-13-2007, 02:35 PM

Poor Petey is having a tough week. First he apparently loses Chris Polk, to Ty of all people. Now he missed being able to make an in-home visit with the Brown family because of the bad weather in the Midwest. We may not like the Poodle, but don't underestimate his ability to schmooze. Not being able to do that in person does not help the USC cause here, unless Arthur had already decided he was going to be a Trojan.

December 17 is right around the corner so we will know the answer to that question soon enough as well as the answer to whether ND pulls off a shocker by nabbing Chris Harper.

irishunclebill

12-17-2007, 04:06 PM

Brown is a Cane.

jfschellcrna

12-17-2007, 04:15 PM

his brother is sure to follow..................

NDisNCin2010

12-17-2007, 04:52 PM

his brother is sure to follow..................

your probably right on that one.
i'm sure his handlers were satisfied with the "total Miami package" for Arthur :eek:

daytonirish

12-17-2007, 05:01 PM

I thought I read somewhere that his family was moving to Fla. and that his younger brother was transfering schools. Anybody else here anything along those lines ?

NDisNCin2010

12-17-2007, 05:21 PM

Browns handler has arranged for a nice 5 bedroom right on the intercoastal just outside of Coral Gables...

stew654

12-17-2007, 06:07 PM

Would rather the browns be a package deal to the U than to usc

IrishKnight1023

12-17-2007, 06:57 PM

Send em to Miami.....they prob have the top 5 best talent and still find a way to screw it up.

NDGirlzRock

12-17-2007, 07:31 PM

Send em to Miami.....they prob have the top 5 best talent and still find a way to screw it up.

Brother you better be knockin' on wood for that statement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

irishdan123084

12-17-2007, 08:13 PM

its so true tho. look what happened to kyle wright. he was the 2nd best qb out of high school right behind booty and he was in the same class that quinn was in. quinn was ranked 14th in case you forgot. i dont really blame kyle wright tho, he had 4 different off. coordinators that coached him---that sucks.

Tommy

12-17-2007, 08:16 PM

bullet proof vest

IrishKnight1023

12-17-2007, 09:22 PM

I heard Miami was changing their Fight Song to this....

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NDgrandson

12-17-2007, 10:02 PM

Send em to Miami.....they prob have the top 5 best talent and still find a way to screw it up.

I agree. I am just glad we are not going to see him. He is a bad, bad man. :eek:

irishdan123084

12-18-2007, 01:52 AM

I agree. I am just glad we are not going to see him. He is a bad, bad man. :eek:

umm...i wouldn't say that yet b/c i predict us facing the "U" in the NC game in '09

irishunclebill

02-07-2008, 10:53 PM

LOI to Miami.

Synoptico

02-02-2010, 02:39 PM

THARINGER - Arthur Brown has left the Miami program and plans to transfer. Louisville and Kansas State look like the early options.

Per Twitter

Wonder if Bryce is far behind?

bayirish

02-02-2010, 02:41 PM

Wow, big news...

goirish41

02-02-2010, 02:47 PM

I'm tired of hearing about the Browns. It appears that they were vastly overrated.

Akron Irish

02-02-2010, 03:09 PM

Interesting... what do all three programs have in common

NDisNCin2010

02-02-2010, 03:19 PM

Interesting... what do all three programs have in common

that aint right...cmon now AI

Akron Irish

02-02-2010, 03:32 PM

I just thought it was interesting.... He did like in the Kansas area - so I imagine thats the reason

SpanishElite

02-02-2010, 04:43 PM

I'm tired of hearing about the Browns. It appears that they were vastly overrated.

Ehhh. I think B. Brown will be a player.

NotreDameNate

02-02-2010, 05:22 PM

Goirish, how can you say he was overrated? He was a 5* recruit and don't they all exceed? : )

eric_navy

02-02-2010, 05:27 PM

I think the older brother may have been a little inflated because of his brother. They think it's cool for them to have brothers who are both really highly rated like that. The fact that everyone in the world wanted Bryce may have padded his offer list, too.

NDisNCin2010

02-02-2010, 05:45 PM

my rule is to hold judgement on any kid (ND or not) until around their Junior or Senior year...calling a freshman or a sophomore a bust, to me, is an oxymoron.

Domer Dog

02-02-2010, 08:13 PM

Miami has a lot of other talent. When little bro chose another direction, Arthur's stock probably wasn't going to go up too much more.

NDisNCin2010

02-04-2010, 08:58 AM

more confirmation...from BSPN...Art is gone

http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/9288/source-brown-has-left-miami

zimmsbg78

02-04-2010, 09:03 AM

Word is, Arthur is heading back home and will enroll to play at Kansas St.

irishunclebill

02-04-2010, 09:38 AM

Word is, Arthur is heading back home and will enroll to play at Kansas St.

I thought Miami was now home. Didn't his parents say they were moving (ala the Hendersonk's) to wherever Arthur was going to play.

I guess they had to move back because he never really played. :bigsmile:

NDgrandson

02-13-2010, 08:40 PM

my rule is to hold judgement on any kid (ND or not) until around their Junior or Senior year...calling a freshman or a sophomore a bust, to me, is an oxymoron.

Arthur seemed to me like a sure fire LB stud. I bet he gets drafted and plays in the NFL.

JGESS

02-16-2010, 09:15 PM

Arthur Brown Sr. said it was his decision, not his son's, for Arthur Jr. to leave Miami and enroll at Butler Community College in Kansas, two miles from the parents' home, where Arthur Jr. is now living. ``I thought it was time for him to come home. He needed the support,'' Arthur Sr. said. ``He has spent a tremendous amount of time away from people who love him.''
Miami Herald

really thought this kid wouldve been stronger and amounted to more. exact reason why high school kids shouldnt have handlers

NotreDameNate

02-16-2010, 09:43 PM

Community college, huh? Football team there, or done with it for a year, or for good?

Griff Cannon

02-16-2010, 09:44 PM

Community college, huh? Football team there, or done with it for a year, or for good?

probably going to pull a konrad reuland

irishunclebill

07-26-2010, 11:19 AM

http://www.irishsportsdaily.com/football/2858-cfb-notebook

BROWN BROTHERS TO GO BACK?: Arthur and Bryce Brown have attracted as much attention from college football recruiting junkies as any brothers in recent history and that continues to this day. Both were five-star prospects before Arthur selected Miami and Bryce chose Tennessee after a long battle that stretched beyond signing day. After the 2009 season, both indicated their desire to leave their programs.

Most assumed that the Browns would go to Kansas State where they could be closer to their home in Wichita. Now, it seems anything could happen. There are reports that Arthur could return to Miami while Bryce is reportedly meeting with Tennessee head coach Derek Dooley. Could both end up in Knoxville?

:rofl:

irishunclebill

09-06-2011, 11:30 AM

In the where are they now category, and in case anyone is interested Arthur ended up at K-State with little brother Bryce. Arthur is the starting MLB for K-State now while Bryce continues to struggle as he is listed as #3 on the K-State RB depth chart. Bryce also pulled a Jonas Gray on Saturday by fumbling at the opposing teams 1 yard line which almost caused K-State to be upset by an FCS team, Eastern Kentucky. Final score was 10-7.