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stonebreakerwasgod
06-21-2007, 07:19 PM
in the past twenty years.

Here's my personal favs:

1) Obvious one, winning the NC in '88
2) Hiring CW
3) Anytime Rocket broke one
4) Coming back and beating MSU last year

I know 4 may not deserve to be there, but what an awesome moment to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.

notredomer23
06-21-2007, 08:18 PM
couldnt of said it much better. Might have to add UCLA come back to that.

untitledproject
06-21-2007, 08:41 PM
Itll be impossible for me to forget the UCLA game. I was home. Sick. (really messed up) And angry at the team and life...

When Brady connected to Samardzija, I seriously felt reborn. Unlike any other time in my life.

stonebreakerwasgod
06-21-2007, 09:03 PM
UCLA was HUGE. I just remember MSU as being a team we could beat, being down by 17 after coming back somewhat. Then we turned their mistakes into scores and started having that attitude. Both were great games.
I hate to leave out the great games of old, but it's hard to remember them (old age).

ACamp1900
06-22-2007, 12:38 AM
My top (fav) ND moments,...

1.) Darius Walker beats MU his freshman year... (got some loving during the game and watched ND beat UM lying in bed afterward)
2.) Zibby ripping the ball out of the streaking WR and going the other way with it his freshman year against MSU
3.) The Bus scoring down the sideline in the Sugar Bowl

to be honest most of my memories with ND football are about the hard loses... 90 Orange Bowl REALLY sticks out... 93 BC too

Sureal
06-22-2007, 03:03 PM
1. Terrell breaking up Walsh's pass in the endzone ND beating Miami in '88
2. NC in the Fiesta Bowl '89
3. ND Beats FSU in the Game of the Century '93

ACamp-the phantom clip in '90 Orange Bowl still irritates me...

irishunclebill
06-22-2007, 03:23 PM
I'm too young to remember back 20 years;), so I'll just stick with the last 3.

1) CW being hired.
2) Brady marching the team down the field to re-take the lead against USC in the fourth quarter of the 2005 game.
3) Brady marching the team down the field to beat Stanford in the fourth quarter of the 2005 game. That was a 14 million dollar drive because it put the Irish in the Fiesta Bowl.
4) Brady quickly marching the team down the field to beat UCLA at the end of the 2006 game. Another big money drive, and the improvised pass to Jeff was one of the most creative plays between a QB and a WR that I have ever seen.
5) CW's NSD presser where he proclaimed to the recruiting world that "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it any more." Well, maybe not in those words, but he did remind me of Peter Finch when he was talking that day.

Can anybody guess who my favorite ND coach & player are.?:)

UserND83
06-28-2007, 12:50 AM
Any top moment list from the last 20 years has to include Florida State in '93 and Miami in '88. Those two were special.

stonebreakerwasgod
06-28-2007, 12:50 AM
Tonite is in the top 20 for me. :)

UserND83
06-28-2007, 01:04 AM
The whole day was pretty incredible.

KMac151993
06-28-2007, 07:31 AM
Anyone that mentions Charlie Weis or anything over the past couple years is not actually taking into consideration the overall 20 years and is blinded.

notredomer23
06-28-2007, 08:10 AM
Anyone that mentions Charlie Weis or anything over the past couple years is not actually taking into consideration the overall 20 years and is blinded.

well sorry mr negative

stonebreakerwasgod
06-28-2007, 09:56 AM
Anyone that mentions Charlie Weis or anything over the past couple years is not actually taking into consideration the overall 20 years and is blinded.

I value your opinion, but after Bob Davie and Ty.......him coming to ND has given the program new life, just as Holtz did. Sorry brutha, but CW is da man.

KMac151993
06-28-2007, 12:53 PM
I value your opinion, but after Bob Davie and Ty.......him coming to ND has given the program new life, just as Holtz did. Sorry brutha, but CW is da man.

When comparing him to those two he is the man....hell Ron Zook would look like the man compared to those two. Fact is in all reality if you take a non-homer view of things nothing "Great" has happened so far under his watch, yes there is tons of potential and some great showings. Go back 20 years and we had a Heisman Trophy winner and a couple years later almost another. Saying that Charlie Weis's hire is greater then winning a Heisman & National Championship in a 2 year span is downright crazy.

stonebreakerwasgod
06-28-2007, 04:54 PM
I didn't say it was greater, but it is definitely top five.

KMac151993
06-28-2007, 05:22 PM
Top 5 what?

1) 1988 National Championship
2) 1988 Miami Game
3) 1993 Florida State Game
4) Brown's Heisman
5) The Rocket


....Charlie Weis wouldn't even make my Top 10.

stonebreakerwasgod
06-28-2007, 05:29 PM
It may not be in your top five, but it is in mine. Games are huge, but so is getting back our identity. I think some others out there would agree with me. I know its controversial, that's why I posted it. To each their own. :)

notredomer23
06-28-2007, 05:36 PM
ok since i didnt really make a top 5, here it is.

1. Winning 88 NC
2. CHARLIE WEIS being hired.
3. 05 USC
4. 06 UCLA comeback
5. Rocket breaking a punt return
6. 06 MSU comeback. Do not do the sparty choke, irish

stonebreakerwasgod
06-28-2007, 05:40 PM
I got goosebumps watching games like MSU, UCLA, MIAMI on classic. But this class and last...is gonna put us back to the times where we win those games more often.

rontdtarchala
06-28-2007, 05:47 PM
1. Holtz hiring
2. 88 nc and beating the convicts
3. 93 fsu win
4. CW hire
5. CB hire which has helped with recruiting and has made all of us go nuts and way excited which I haven't seen in some time and has everyone frothing at the mouth to get the season started...start of practice and first game every year is the best moment in ND football

rontdtarchala
06-28-2007, 05:48 PM
I apologize for not having this on the last one but I just wanted to say....somebody beat that!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Grady
06-29-2007, 07:28 AM
Any top moment list from the last 20 years has to include Florida State in '93 and Miami in '88. Those two were special.

I agree with you on those two.

scooper
06-29-2007, 08:23 AM
Halloween. 1998. Baylor. I have my reasons.

KMac151993
06-29-2007, 03:32 PM
Halloween. 1998. Baylor. I have my reasons.


Why, because of Autry Denson's attempted throwback pass being intercepted and ran back?

mlcspinner
06-29-2007, 03:44 PM
Watching (on tv ) ND beat Alabama in the Cotton bowl with my brother who was going to ND at the time. 1 of just many great memories. I just remembered, beating Penn. State in the Snow Bowl!!!!

Marlo Stanfield
06-29-2007, 09:00 PM
I was always a big fan of the Rick Mirer era. Irish were 29-7-1 during that 3 year stretch but their schedules back then makes the 2007 schedule look like a cakewalk.
Fav. moments from 90-92
1. Snow Bowl
2. Sugar Bowl win over Gators
3. Beating Miami 29-20 in '90
4. 1990 Michigan and Michigan St. games, Adrian Jarrell catching tipped passes!!!
5. Cotton Bowl win over Texas A&M

KMac151993
06-29-2007, 09:32 PM
I was always a big fan of the Rick Mirer era. Irish were 29-7-1 during that 3 year stretch but their schedules back then makes the 2007 schedule look like a cakewalk.
Fav. moments from 90-92
1. Snow Bowl
2. Sugar Bowl win over Gators
3. Beating Miami 29-20 in '90
4. 1990 Michigan and Michigan St. games, Adrian Jarrell catching tipped passes!!!
5. Cotton Bowl win over Texas A&M

Jarrell seemed to always be around big plays.....I think he is greatly underrated in ND History, he comes back for a 5th year and ends up being a part time punter, talk about a team player.

grantland
07-03-2007, 02:52 PM
Any top moment list from the last 20 years has to include Florida State in '93 and Miami in '88. Those two were special.

No one ever mentions Michigan from '88. Not as hyped as Catholics v. Convicts, but a GREAT GAME.

Frankly, I like the three loses to USC by 31 points a piece - that gave an excuse to get rid of tyWillie and reson to hire Knute, I mean, Charlie Weis.

stonebreakerwasgod
07-03-2007, 03:17 PM
Way to go Grant!!

grantland
07-03-2007, 04:20 PM
West Vriginia in '88 was also good if you were an ND fan. Beat the shit out of them.

KMac151993
07-03-2007, 04:33 PM
No one ever mentions Michigan from '88. Not as hyped as Catholics v. Convicts, but a GREAT GAME.

Frankly, I like the three loses to USC by 31 points a piece - that gave an excuse to get rid of tyWillie and reson to hire Knute, I mean, Charlie Weis.

Bite your tongue young man.....Weis isn't even up to Devine standards yet.

Fightin'IrishinATL
07-03-2007, 04:57 PM
Moments can be rewarding and disappointing, yet still affect you..so here they are..good and bad
1-beating fsu one week, losing to bc the next
2-lou's retirement-hiring bob davie(both bad)
3-1988 team..sweetttttttttt
4-SC game 05...talk about the agony of defeat..that's a moment for your ass
5-Ty willingham...who knew?
6-that damn book"under the tarnished dome"
7-New Englands last SB win

stonebreakerwasgod
07-03-2007, 04:59 PM
Kmac wishes we had Faust back. :)

KMac151993
07-03-2007, 06:05 PM
Kmac wishes we had Faust back. :)

HAHA, he got us on the cover of Sports Illustrated. I wouldn't mind for time travel and getting Holtz back.

stonebreakerwasgod
07-03-2007, 07:22 PM
Holtz was great. CW is going to have a hard time getting to his level, but it could happen. Another hijack?

mlcspinner
07-03-2007, 07:38 PM
Moments can be rewarding and disappointing, yet still affect you..so here they are..good and bad
1-beating fsu one week, losing to bc the next
2-lou's retirement-hiring bob davie(both bad)
3-1988 team..sweetttttttttt
4-SC game 05...talk about the agony of defeat..that's a moment for your ass
5-Ty willingham...who knew?
6-that damn book"under the tarnished dome"
7-New Englands last SB win

New Englands 3 SuperBowls wins

Fightin'IrishinATL
07-03-2007, 07:53 PM
spinner', you didn't get #7, that's when we got weis.....I'm not a patriot fan..."cheesehead here"

grantland
07-03-2007, 08:13 PM
Holtz was great. CW is going to have a hard time getting to his level, but it could happen. Another hijack?

Okay, I am in the EXTREME minority here, however, Holtz was, at best, the fourth best coach in ND history. Probably tied fo fourth. Charlie will be in the top 3 when all said and done. I am positive. I am also drunk.

grantland
07-03-2007, 08:14 PM
Stoney. How u like that punctuation, bitch! :)

grantland
07-03-2007, 08:17 PM
Bite your tongue young man.....Weis isn't even up to Devine standards yet.


I agree as to the "yet" KMAC. However, it shall be so. And when you say "even" devine is the man who I think is tied with (or maybe ahead of) Holtz. This is certain to stir the pot.

stonebreakerwasgod
07-03-2007, 08:24 PM
I AM NOT THE PUNCTUATION NAZI. My only point was that you can't fool people on here with your smarts if yer posts luk lick dis.
Besides, Holtz vs CW is in another thread you drunk bas...rd. LOL

Don't worry, I'll catch up around 11:00, so be warned.

grantland
07-03-2007, 08:56 PM
I AM NOT THE PUNCTUATION NAZI. My only point was that you can't fool people on here with your smarts if yer posts luk lick dis.
Besides, Holtz vs CW is in another thread you drunk bas...rd. LOL

Don't worry, I'll catch up around 11:00, so be warned.


I knew what you were saying. I can't fool people on here because I ain't got no smarts - I'm just a small town boy down here in south JAWJA.

My point was, though I love Holtz, he is probably 4-5 all time greatest in ND history and Charlie is going to pass him!

And point me to the thread, I am new on here and DRUNK! I'll be passed out by 11. I'm playing golf at 8.

Whose birthday is it anyway?

stonebreakerwasgod
07-03-2007, 09:11 PM
Yours! LOL Don't pass out yet, I'm not drinking for another hour or so.

grantland
07-03-2007, 09:14 PM
Yours! LOL Don't pass out yet, I'm not drinking for another hour or so.

Are you still at work?

CAN STONEY COME OUT AND PLAY?

stonebreakerwasgod
07-03-2007, 09:23 PM
No, I'm out and about at home. But I have my kids and wife around to take care of. Give me another 45 min or so.

KMac151993
07-03-2007, 09:26 PM
I agree as to the "yet" KMAC. However, it shall be so. And when you say "even" devine is the man who I think is tied with (or maybe ahead of) Holtz. This is certain to stir the pot.

Please explain your last part here?

grantland
07-03-2007, 11:03 PM
Please explain your last part here?

So many people think Holtz is ND's greatest, I think he is 4th or 5th best.

domer70
07-03-2007, 11:49 PM
Okay, I am in the EXTREME minority here, however, Holtz was, at best, the fourth best coach in ND history. Probably tied fo fourth. Charlie will be in the top 3 when all said and done. I am positive. I am also drunk.

You are probably correct that Holtz is behind Rockne, Leahy and Ara, but that is still very good company. It won't be fair to rank Charlie before he is around at least 5 more years.

Meanwhile, as someone whose Irish memory goes back more than 20 years, here are my favorite moments:

1. Harry's Oliver's last-second 51-yard FG to beat Michigan
2. Reggie Brooks catches 2-point conversion from Mirer to beat Penn State.
3. Tony Rice goes 70 yards against USC to jump start the win against No. 2 USC.
4. Rocket returns two kickoffs for TDs against Michigan.
5. Super sophs Hanratty and Seymour debut against Purdue -- Seymour catches 13 for 276 yards and 3 TDs.
6. Bettis runs wild against Fla. in Sugar Bowl.
7. Tom Clements to Robin Webber clinches the Sugar Bowl over Alabama and the 1973 National Championship.

rdrdreamer
07-04-2007, 01:48 AM
Cotton Bowl, 1979 vs Houston.


Notre Dame scored 23 points in the final seven and a half minutes. A touchdown return of a blocked punt. Joe Montana's touchdown run and 6 yard Montana touchdown pass on the final play.
All this as the Irish trailed the Cougars 34-12 with approximately 7:25 minutes remaining in the fourth quarter, on an icy and blustery day with temperatures in the low teens. The nation was properly introduced to Joe Montana that day.

KMac151993
07-04-2007, 09:47 AM
So many people think Holtz is ND's greatest, I think he is 4th or 5th best.

Rock, Frank, Ara, Lou, Devine

Easily the top 5, after that it becomes a lot more cloudy.....I don't know how you could think Lou was any higher then 4. I would rank Charlie probably around 7 or 8 right now, he has to at least win a title before I would think of bumping him above Devine and at least 2 before I would bump him ahead of Hotlz, the other 3 are just football gods that will never be passed.

notredomer23
07-04-2007, 09:56 AM
Rock, Frank, Ara, Lou, Devine

Easily the top 5, after that it becomes a lot more cloudy.....I don't know how you could think Lou was any higher then 4. I would rank Charlie probably around 7 or 8 right now, he has to at least win a title before I would think of bumping him above Devine and at least 2 before I would bump him ahead of Hotlz, the other 3 are just football gods that will never be passed.

not to be a smart ass but what if charlie wins 4 or 5 NCs by the time hes done at ND. Then you would rank above Ara or Frank?

nayers
07-04-2007, 03:32 PM
1) FSU v ND in 93
2) Charlie being brought in
3) any game with the Bus
4) UCLA in 06
5) My first ND game in person in 99

KMac151993
07-04-2007, 11:59 PM
not to be a smart ass but what if charlie wins 4 or 5 NCs by the time hes done at ND. Then you would rank above Ara or Frank?


....and what if Knute raises from the dead and coaches us again....

stonebreakerwasgod
07-05-2007, 12:10 AM
Then I think Touchdown Jesus would possibly be our new QB.

KMac151993
07-05-2007, 07:20 AM
Then I think Touchdown Jesus would possibly be our new QB.

....but Moses would always go for 1 not 2 after we scored.

IrishDodger
07-05-2007, 08:42 AM
1) Pat Terrell knocking down 2-pt. conversion attempt vs. Miami to seal win in '88

2) Charlie Ward's final pass being knocked down as time expired in '93 Game of the Century.

3) Rocket's KO return vs. Colorado in '90 Orange Bowl right after commentator, Bill Walsh, said that the Buffs would be crazy to kick to Ismail....of course the clip ruined everything.

4) Zibby's punt return for a TD vs. USC in '05.

5) Brady to Shark in last year's UCLA game.

IrishDodger
07-05-2007, 08:56 AM
Rock, Frank, Ara, Lou, Devine

Easily the top 5, after that it becomes a lot more cloudy.....I don't know how you could think Lou was any higher then 4. I would rank Charlie probably around 7 or 8 right now, he has to at least win a title before I would think of bumping him above Devine and at least 2 before I would bump him ahead of Hotlz, the other 3 are just football gods that will never be passed.

If the only measuring stick is NCs than I'd probably agree w/ that. I think Lou played in a much tougher era & inherited a lot worse program than Devine. Lou also headed ND when the press had gone from being bias for ND to being bias vs. ND. Don't forget how much the NBC contract pissed the CFB world off either (I think that was in '92). Lou could've/should've easily had 2 NC to his credit. All you have to do is look at 1989 & 1993. It's hard to make an argument that ND doesn't earn at least a share of one of those titles. In '89, #1 ND loses to Miami late in the season...ND then knocks off undefeated Colorado in the Orange Bowl but has to settle for #2 behind one-loss Miami. In '93 the ND's plays the role of Miami. They knock off #1 FSU late in the season but finish w/ one loss. FSU then knocks off undefeated Nebraska (barely) to win outright NC. IOW, head-to-head seemingly made the difference in '89, but not so in '93. ND came out on shit end of both of those sticks...& yeah I'm still bitter about it.

KMac151993
07-05-2007, 09:03 AM
If the only measuring stick is NCs than I'd probably agree w/ that. I think Lou played in a much tougher era & inherited a lot worse program than Devine. Lou also headed ND when the press had gone from being bias for ND to being bias vs. ND. Don't forget how much the NBC contract pissed the CFB world off either (I think that was in '92). Lou could've/should've easily had 2 NC to his credit. All you have to do is look at 1989 & 1993. It's hard to make an argument that ND doesn't earn at least a share of one of those titles. In '89, #1 ND loses to Miami late in the season...ND then knocks off undefeated Colorado in the Orange Bowl but has to settle for #2 behind one-loss Miami. In '93 the ND's plays the role of Miami. They knock off #1 FSU late in the season but finish w/ one loss. FSU then knocks off undefeated Nebraska (barely) to win outright NC. IOW, head-to-head seemingly made the difference in '89, but not so in '93. ND came out on shit end of both of those sticks...& yeah I'm still bitter about it.

Totally agree, but like they say: if you win all your games you leave no doubt, control your own destiny...don't let others control it.

grantland
07-05-2007, 09:58 AM
Rock, Frank, Ara, Lou, Devine

Easily the top 5, after that it becomes a lot more cloudy.....I don't know how you could think Lou was any higher then 4. I would rank Charlie probably around 7 or 8 right now, he has to at least win a title before I would think of bumping him above Devine and at least 2 before I would bump him ahead of Hotlz, the other 3 are just football gods that will never be passed.

I might put Devine ahead of Lou. Devine was not weel received at ND, but I loved the 77 team (I was 10)>

grantland
07-05-2007, 10:00 AM
If the only measuring stick is NCs than I'd probably agree w/ that. I think Lou played in a much tougher era & inherited a lot worse program than Devine. Lou also headed ND when the press had gone from being bias for ND to being bias vs. ND. Don't forget how much the NBC contract pissed the CFB world off either (I think that was in '92). Lou could've/should've easily had 2 NC to his credit. All you have to do is look at 1989 & 1993. It's hard to make an argument that ND doesn't earn at least a share of one of those titles. In '89, #1 ND loses to Miami late in the season...ND then knocks off undefeated Colorado in the Orange Bowl but has to settle for #2 behind one-loss Miami. In '93 the ND's plays the role of Miami. They knock off #1 FSU late in the season but finish w/ one loss. FSU then knocks off undefeated Nebraska (barely) to win outright NC. IOW, head-to-head seemingly made the difference in '89, but not so in '93. ND came out on shit end of both of those sticks...& yeah I'm still bitter about it.

Assholes who hate ND tend to forget about those contradictory seasons! I am bitter too.

IrishDodger
07-05-2007, 06:27 PM
Totally agree, but like they say: if you win all your games you leave no doubt, control your own destiny...don't let others control it.

Amen to that. IMO, that's what's wrong w/ human polls (both the AP & the Coaches polls). That being said, I fully realize that other schools have been screwed out of NCs in the past as well. In fact, I haven't looked it up, but I believe Penn St has the most undefeated season w/o a NC in college f'ball. THat shit would get old real fast.

KMac151993
07-05-2007, 07:06 PM
I might put Devine ahead of Lou. Devine was not weel received at ND, but I loved the 77 team (I was 10)>

The only reason why I said Lou was because from 1987-1993 ND won 1 Heisman, 1 National Championship, and "should/could" have won at least 2 more. In a 7 year period the possibilty of 3 National Titles and 1 Heisman Trophy is tough to beat.

untitledproject
07-05-2007, 08:29 PM
Lou also dominated USC like it was their birthright.

stonebreakerwasgod
07-05-2007, 08:46 PM
The down turn in recruiting during the last 15 or so years did nothing but help SC. Why CW (and CB by default) are so important, is that they are bringing back that same level that we took for granted.

KMac151993
07-05-2007, 08:57 PM
Lou also dominated USC like it was their birthright.

People make such a big deal of USC's dominance over ND in recent years but forget that we OWNED them for a decade straight.