2008 Recruiting may finally come to an end.

[daytonirish]

It appears that Terrell Pryor will announce and sign his letter within the next week. He was asked about it after his team won the BB championship game. He said he is down to 2 schools but wouldn't list them..



Think we got a shot IUB ?:nanana: :nuts: :gooooofy: :eek: :rofl:

[scooper]

Think we got a shot IUB ?

If anybody does, make it count. :guns:

[domehead1]

If anybody does, make it count. :guns:

lol...nicely done.

[Svoboda]

I sure as hell hope not. Million dollar talent... ten cent brain.

[BDirish4ever]

If we were to get him, what would we do with him?? I don't see him playing QB for Charlie and I don't see him trying to learn a new position with our young depth.

[domehead1]

Have him play hoops for us.

[NotreDameNate]

If he picked ND this would be everybodies reaction. :jawdrop:

Honestly I think he is OSU bound...

[bayirish]

Word is he is down to osu and um - I could care less where he goes, though.

[SoCalDomer]

i actually hope he goes to UM. that would be an incentive for that linebacker from Colorado (who came out in an interview recently and essentially said he thinks Pryor is full of himself) to come to ND = chance to pound some Pryor butt.

[bayirish]

SoCal, do you remember who it was that said that?

[napoleonbuck]

I thought it was funny that some kid from Colorado criticized Pryor by calling him arrogant when he doesn't even know him. I think that's more arrogant than anything Pryor has done.

[mlcspinner]

If we were to get him, what would we do with him?? I don't see him playing QB for Charlie and I don't see him trying to learn a new position with our young depth.

he would play WR IMO but he's not coming here thank God

[Fishin'_Irish]

I found it funny how Pryor complained about people complaining about him who didn't even know him. Welcome to the media, you better get used to it. It's gonna be a long four years for whoever lands him.

[bayirish]

Calling a press conference to announce that you're not announcing is arrogant.

One more take on this whole thing: I'm sure Pryor has been being courted by these schools for a long time now. If he had committed earlier in the process, he could have helped bring other recruits in to that school, kind of like Jimmy and Dayne have done for ND.

[SoCalDomer]

SoCal, do you remember who it was that said that?

Yes, it was Nick Kasa. I will add the link to the article to his profile.

[daytonirish]

Pryor is not comming to ND. I was haveing some fun with IUB, see all those gooooofy smiles on my post.

[mlcspinner]

Calling a press conference to announce that you're not announcing is arrogant.



Priceless :hahaha:

[napoleonbuck]

Calling a press conference to announce that you're not announcing is arrogant.

He was ready to announce then, but then his dad a day or two before signing day told him to wait and visit Penn State.

How dare that arrogant bastard listen to his father. The nerve of him.

I also don't see why Pryor had to commit before signing day. What is the significance of some arbitrary date set down by the NCAA? I didn't know where I was going to go by that time when I was a senior, but we should expect every football player in the country to know by then?

If he wants to wait it's his right. There's nothing arrogant about not following someone else's deadline.

It isn't like he's been doing talk shows and giving a ton of interviews since signing day.

[scooper]

This kid is born to be a buckeye. Look on the bright side. He won't have to steal any more cars.

[NotreDameNate]

Scooper wrote:

This kid is born to be a buckeye. Look on the bright side. He won't have to steal any more cars.

Scooper, did Pryor get caught stealing or car or is this joke just over my head?

[daytonirish]

It was a joke. I think he is refering to Clarett and how he claims to have been givin a new car to drive every few months by a different car dealership in Columbus while he played at Ohio State.

[scooper]

I know somebody from his hometown who told me he got caught trying to steal a car. It was covered up and nothing stuck as he was only trying and did not succeed in stealing it. I was told this about a year ago when some still thought the Irish had a chance, so this was not sour grapes coming from this guy. Also, at that same time a year ago, he already had a history of fights during basketball games. The one last week was not his first.

This stuff came from a Notre Dame fan who said he's the most talented player he's seen but wants him nowhere near ND.

This individual is probably reading this, but doesn't really post here. If I am not remembering details correctly, let me know.

There are serious character issues at play here. The bucknuts who defend him once defended Clarrett for his character issues until Clarrett turned on their program. Then, he was a worthless thug to them.

Pryor will fit in well up there. Trust me.

[napoleonbuck]

He hasn't been in a fight this year. He got in a yelling match with a student section and didn't throw a punch in the North Catholic game, yet he's a thug.

I'm guessing that individual that heard the car stealing story(emphasis mine), is full of bs.

No way something that big gets covered up so well that no one in the media has heard it, especially considering there are a bunch of people in Pennsylvania(Pitt and Penn State fans) who want to see Pryor fail. I just don't buy it.

[scooper]

A yelling match? He told them “I’m going to kill you, motherf*ckers. I’ll see you after the game." He also proceeded to throw a ball into the student section and hit a an elementary school kid. After the game, as the teams shook hands, he refused and instead told each opposing player they Fing suck. Then went back to the student section and continued to threaten them until a cop made him stop.

Granted, I'm sure the fans were no angels. But newsflash, oppossing fans will taunt him no matter where he goes. Athletes get taunted all the time. Sometimes its ugly. But you don't threaten them and throw balls at little kids.

Remember he was arrested in October as well for arguing with an amusement park security guard.

You don't have to buy the car story. I have no proof, but I was told this long before ND was eliminated. You don't have to buy any of it. But your defense sounds a lot like the defenses I once heard of Clarrett. In fact, the kid has had multiple on-court issues and the arrest. He seems quite hot-headed. I love the defense I read that his character must be trusted as Tressel is recruiting him.

Yeah, as if OSU hasn't had a laundry list of issues since Tressel was hired. Granted, some by Cooper's guys, but plenty by Tressel's. I'm not saying Tressel's a bad guy. And I think he's an outstanding football coach. But he doesn't recruit the squeaky clean All-Americans that OSU fans like to think. He recruits great athletes, but plenty of them come with questionable character. Not all of them, but quite a few. In fact, I personally know one of your incoming guys and he is an awesome young man who I would be proud have representing my university.

Anyway, I expect Pryor one day to add to this list.

Sept. 26, 2007--Freshman reserve quarterback Antonio Henton (pictured, right) was arrested Monday at about 8:30 p.m. near Sixth Avenue and High Street during an undercover police operation, 10TV's Cara Connelly reported.
May 21, 2005--Defensive lineman Tim Schafer is charged with disorderly conduct after police twice had to break up early-morning fights between him and another man. The 6-foot-5, 295-pound Schafer, who started five games as an offensive lineman last season, and the 5-8, 200-pound other man were both bloody, had bite marks and smelled of alcohol.
May 18, 2005--Redshirt freshman running back Erik Haw was cited after a university police officer said he saw him smoking a marijuana cigarette while standing outside a dormitory. Haw, expected to compete for the starting tailback job, faces a court appearance on Friday in Franklin County Municipal Court. Ohio State officials said he would enter a drug education program and undergo frequent testing.
May 11, 2005--Kicker Jonathan Skeete is charged with marijuana trafficking. Skeete, who was not expected to play for the Buckeyes, was suspended from the team. He was bound over to a grand jury and was later released from jail on $10,000 bond.
Feb. 16, 2005--Offensive coordinator Jim Bollman is reprimanded by Ohio State for trying to arrange for a car and a loan for a recruit and for getting him a tutor. Tressel also received a letter of admonishment because he is Bollman's supervisor. Ohio State determined that helping the recruit get a tutor for a college entrance exam in 2002 was a secondary NCAA violation. Tressel and his staff were given a reprimand in 2001 for providing a jersey to a prospect.
Dec. 20, 2004--Ohio State suspends starting quarterback Troy Smith from the Alamo Bowl for accepting around $500 from team booster Robert Q. Baker. After a lengthy NCAA investigation, Smith also is forced to make restitution to a charity and sit out the team's 2005 season opener against Miami (Ohio).
Oct. 22, 2004--The all-nude strip club Pure Platinum files a complaint against Ohio State tailback Lydell Ross for passing fake in-house currency at the suburban club a few hours after the team lost its third game in a row the previous Saturday at Iowa. No charges are filed, but Ross is suspended from the team for the Indiana game and is dropped on the depth chart behind freshman Tony Pittman.
May 1, 2004--Sophomore backups Louis Irizarry and Ira Guilford are arrested and charged with robbery after a student is assaulted and his wallet is stolen at 3 a.m. They are held in Franklin County jail through the weekend. Both plead innocent to the robbery charge, with Guilford released after paying a $25,000 bond. Irizarry is held pending a hearing to determine if he had violated his probation from an earlier assault conviction. He later pleads guilty and is given a three-year prison sentence. Guilford is sentenced to two years probation for his role in the robbery, punching the student before Irizarry took the wallet.
Nov. 16, 2003--At 3 a.m. after a win over Purdue and six days before the Michigan game, wide receiver Santonio Holmes and quarterback Troy Smith are charged with misdemeanor disorderly conduct after a fight in a parking lot on campus. A window in a car is kicked out and one woman reported her jaw was broken. At least one other prominent Buckeye is at the scene, but is not charged. Holmes is held out of the starting lineup at Michigan but returns to play most of the game. Holmes also started in the Buckeyes' Fiesta Bowl game. He pleads innocent to the disorderly conduct after the team returns to Columbus. The disorderly conduct charge is dismissed against Holmes on March 30, 2004. Smith is found guilty of the charge.
Oct. 27, 2003--Irizarry is charged with three counts of first-degree misdemeanor assault after three people sustain minor injuries during a fight in a Park Hall dorm room. Irizarry is suspended two days later. He is found guilty of one charge each of assault, negligent assault and disorderly conduct and pays $404 court costs and is put on probation. He is later reinstated to the team and is listed as the second-team tight end on the 2004 spring depth chart before he is suspended indefinitely after the May 1, 2004, arrest.
April 2003--Running back Maurice Clarett reports that a car he has borrowed from a local used-car dealer was broken into and thousands of dollars in cash, CDs, stereo equipment and clothing was stolen. The car was in the parking lot at the Woody Hayes Athletic Center and Clarett calls police from a telephone in Tressel's office. Clarett was later charged with lying to police about the value of the stolen items and is charged with misdemeanor falsification of the police report on the theft. Clarett pleads guilty on Jan. 14, 2004, to the reduced charge of failure to aid a law enforcement officer. He is ordered to pay the maximum fine of $100 and serves no jail time.
Oct. 13, 2002--Linebacker Fred Pagac Jr. is charged with persistent disorderly conduct. Pagac was arrested at 3:45 a.m. after police said he was intoxicated and had a role in a fight involving two women outside a campus-area bar about 12 hours after the Buckeyes' homecoming victory over San Jose State. The police report said an officer told Pagac to stop but he continued to fight. Pagac was suspended for the team's next game at Wisconsin. Pagac pleaded innocent. In December, before the team's national championship game against Miami in the Fiesta Bowl, Pagac was acquitted in a jury trial.
Aug. 17, 2002--Defensive lineman Quinn Pitcock is charged with underage drinking in his hometown of Piqua. He is suspended from the team for the three weeks of preseason workouts, then worked out with the team and is not held out of any games.
Aug. 24, 2002--Flanker Chris Vance, the Buckeyes' second-leading receiver from 2001, is suspended from the team before the season opener for what Tressel called a violation of team policy. Vance was with the team on the sidelines but did not play against Texas Tech.
July 29, 2002--Wide receiver Angelo Chattams is investigated for the alleged theft of a set of golf clubs from a sport utility vehicle in West Carrollton. Prosecutors approve but do not file a theft charge, permitting Chattams to enroll in a program for nonviolent, first-time offenders and avoid a charge.
July 26, 2002--Police find Branden Joe, a sophomore fullback, asleep in a car on a highway ramp near campus. The police report says he refused to take a Breathalyzer test. He was suspended for the three weeks of preseason camp and the team's season opener against Texas Tech, then returns to the team although his playing time is limited by injuries.
April 27, 2002--Linebacker Marco Cooper is arrested hours after the Buckeyes' annual intrasquad scrimmage and charged with felony drug abuse and carrying a concealed weapon in his sports-utility vehicle. Cooper pleads guilty to two charges in November and is put on probation.
March 2, 2002--Tight end Redgie Arden is arrested on a charge of drunken driving in his hometown of Ironton. The redshirt freshman is found guilty and is sentenced to three days in jail and fined. Suspended indefinitely from the team, he does not participate in summer workouts before the 2002 season but is reinstated before the start of the 2002 season and played in 11 games.
Nov. 15, 2001--Quarterback Steve Bellisari is arrested two days before the Illinois game for drunken driving. Tressel suspends the Buckeyes' three-year starter indefinitely and then reinstates him to the team three days later. A senior, he practiced with the team for the Michigan game but did not play, then came off the bench to play most of the team's Outback Bowl loss to South Carolina. He later served a weekend in jail.
March 21, 2001--Cornerback Derek Ross is arrested on charges of driving without a license and providing false information to police, giving an incorrect name when pulled over for speeding. He was sentenced to 30 days in jail. He is suspended from Ohio State's 2001 spring practices, then played most of the 2001 season, leading the Big Ten in interceptions and earning second-team all-conference honors. Left team to make himself available for the NFL draft a year early.

[Jiggafini19]

I thought it was funny that some kid from Colorado criticized Pryor by calling him arrogant when he doesn't even know him. I think that's more arrogant than anything Pryor has done.

So you're seeing a whole team of therapists...

[bayirish]

FYI, Pryor is scheduled to announce his college decision tomorrow afternoon per Scout.

[irishunclebill]

I think the most interesting question for our friend Buck to answer is if he was not convinced as almost all of us are that Pryor is going to Ohio State, would he be so adamant in defending what is clearly borderline thug behavior by Pryor.

BTW, Buck, that is a rhetorical question, I know what your answer will be. Let me just say that I don't believe you in advance so I won't have to respond to your response.

[ALLND62]

He hasn't been in a fight this year. He got in a yelling match with a student section and didn't throw a punch in the North Catholic game, yet he's a thug.

I'm guessing that individual that heard the car stealing story(emphasis mine), is full of bs.

No way something that big gets covered up so well that no one in the media has heard it, especially considering there are a bunch of people in Pennsylvania(Pitt and Penn State fans) who want to see Pryor fail. I just don't buy it.

Napoleon........they don't want him to fail until they see who he signs with:nanana:

[IrishGrizz]

Time will tell with him. You can bet that if he signs with osu, he will be defended by osu fans, and if he signs w scUM, he will be figuatively lynched by those same fans....

Good luck to the kid- hope he has a clean carreer.

[ALLND62]

I was at a family dinner this past weekend and my cousin; who is a diehard Michigan fan said he wasn't sure that it would be good for them to get Pryor because of his character, of course he could be sayin' that because everyone thinks he will be a buckeye. Although I wish Oregon would get him.

[IrishGrizz]

Over here in the NWest, Oregon has a bigger reputation than um, fla or osu for thugs. He would fit in well (that is if he is a thug).......:nanana:

[napoleonbuck]

I know you guys are set in your way of thinking and nothing I post could ever change that, but at least let the kid make a mistake before you judge him for it.

[scooper]

I know you guys are set in your way of thinking and nothing I post could ever change that, but at least let the kid make a mistake before you judge him for it.

Wait. You mean more mistakes, right? Because I'm pretty sure multiple on-court issues and the arrest already qualify as mistakes.

[IrishGrizz]

Wait. You mean more mistakes, right? Because I'm pretty sure multiple on-court issues and the arrest already qualify as mistakes.

:rofl:

[HoffVir]

I know you guys are set in your way of thinking and nothing I post could ever change that, but at least let the kid make a mistake before you judge him for it.

http://thumbnail.search.aolcdn.com/truveo/images/thumbnails/A5/85/A585C5EBFDB074.jpg
Really? Really, really?!

No one questions his talents in high school, no one should question his attitude and actions in high school, they are what they are.

[napoleonbuck]

Wait. You mean more mistakes, right? Because I'm pretty sure multiple on-court issues and the arrest already qualify as mistakes.

The arrest at that amusement park?

You can't be serious.

I also wouldn't consider yelling at a fan section an on-court issue, but that's your opinion, and I respect it.

I just hope some of you are as critical of your own as you are of others.

Did you want Kyle McAlarney kicked out of school? What about your tight end, Yeatmen? I don't think anything Pryor has done(aside from a "story" you heard from a guy) is even comparable to what they did, yet Pryor is the one that's too bad for Notre Dame?

Would Ohio State fans be singing a different tune if he wasn't considering us? You're damn straight they would. However, if Pryor was considering Notre Dame, I'd wager there wouldn't be this thread here and many people would be making the same argument I am right now.

[bayirish]

The arrest at that amusement park?

You can't be serious.

I also wouldn't consider yelling at a fan section an on-court issue, but that's your opinion, and I respect it.

I just hope some of you are as critical of your own as you are of others.

Did you want Kyle McAlarney kicked out of school? What about your tight end, Yeatmen? I don't think anything Pryor has done(aside from a "story" you heard from a guy) is even comparable to what they did, yet Pryor is the one that's too bad for Notre Dame?

Would Ohio State fans be singing a different tune if he wasn't considering us? You're damn straight they would. However, if Pryor was considering Notre Dame, I'd wager there wouldn't be this thread here and many people would be making the same argument I am right now.


:alcoholic:

[daytonirish]

Napolean, i'm not going to judge the kid onwhat someone is told. But as an ND fan I would still be tired of what I consider to be the games he's playing. You say his dad wanted him to take an official visit to Penn St. from everything I see he never did and the Penn St coaches seem to have been recruiting his dad more than him. Come on he has been hanging out at Ohio St. BB games with the two Fr. OL who enrolled early, by all reports they talk,text or e-mail daily. Just Announce.

[IrishGrizz]

The arrest at that amusement park?

You can't be serious.

I also wouldn't consider yelling at a fan section an on-court issue, but that's your opinion, and I respect it.

I just hope some of you are as critical of your own as you are of others.

Did you want Kyle McAlarney kicked out of school? What about your tight end, Yeatmen? I don't think anything Pryor has done(aside from a "story" you heard from a guy) is even comparable to what they did, yet Pryor is the one that's too bad for Notre Dame?

Would Ohio State fans be singing a different tune if he wasn't considering us? You're damn straight they would. However, if Pryor was considering Notre Dame, I'd wager there wouldn't be this thread here and many people would be making the same argument I am right now.

Yo, buck- maybe that is why this is a NOTRE DAME SITE! and not a bucknuts site. :tease::whistle: :banghead:

[irishunclebill]

The arrest at that amusement park?

You can't be serious.

I also wouldn't consider yelling at a fan section an on-court issue, but that's your opinion, and I respect it.

I just hope some of you are as critical of your own as you are of others.

Did you want Kyle McAlarney kicked out of school? What about your tight end, Yeatmen? I don't think anything Pryor has done(aside from a "story" you heard from a guy) is even comparable to what they did, yet Pryor is the one that's too bad for Notre Dame?

Would Ohio State fans be singing a different tune if he wasn't considering us? You're damn straight they would. However, if Pryor was considering Notre Dame, I'd wager there wouldn't be this thread here and many people would be making the same argument I am right now.

What a shocking reply. LOL.

You just don't get it Buck, and I don't expect that you ever will, and that is why you are an OSU fan and not an ND fan. You compare guys who smoke a doobie or have a few too many drinks with a kid who has an obvious propensity to create havoc wherever he goes. I won't speak for anyone else here, but if ND had a potential recruit who was a thug in the making, you're damn right you would see a thread here about him. However, that is the difference between ND and OSU, thugs are not welcome on the ND campus, in Columbus they are venerated, which is the reason why I understand you defending this guy. You should be used to it by now as a Bucknut fan.

[IrishGrizz]

Ditto, IUB!!!:theking::rofl:

[napoleonbuck]

IUB, so you'd be fine if coach Weis recruited a player that had a DUI, or was busted driving with pot?

But you wouldn't want him to recruit someone that gets in yelling matches(not fights, but just yelling)?

Odd standards that have at Notre Dame now.

[bayirish]

Not to mention throwing a ball into the stands and hitting an elementary school student....talk about a high character guy...

[napoleonbuck]

Did he lure him into his gingerbread house afterwards?

[napoleonbuck]

More recent example of thugginess from Pryor:

http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?ID=403309&r=0&Category=17&subCategoryID=30

"It wasn't the only communication Pryor initiated with OSU. Buckeye QB coach Joe Daniels is home recovering after recent surgery as a result of his battle with cancer and a heart condition. Pryor and his mother sent flowers to Daniels' home wishing him a speedy recovery."

[notredomer23]

I have to side with Napoleon on this one. We would be defending him to say if he was down to us and some other school. As much as i dislike Pryor, We would be doing the same if he was choosing us.

[SoCalDomer]

will announce wednesday, but no time is listed in the article:

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/10719741/rss

[bayirish]

I just read it is at noon eastern time.

[SoCalDomer]

I thought it was funny that some kid from Colorado criticized Pryor by calling him arrogant when he doesn't even know him. I think that's more arrogant than anything Pryor has done.

If I understand you correctly, you take issue with the kid in Colorado calling Pryor arrogant because the kid in Colorado doesn't know Pryor. You then call the kid in Colorado arrogant. Do you know that kid in Colorado?

[bayirish]

Easy man, there's a beverage here!

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff58/kingogondo/animated%20gifs/dude.gif

[NDgrandson]

http://conal.net/Pan/Gallery/PanPics/medres/round%20and%20round.jpg


I have to side with Napoleon on this one. We would be defending him to say if he was down to us and some other school. As much as i dislike Pryor, We would be doing the same if he was choosing us.

Anyone siding with Nap cannot be a rep whore. Nap has much less rep power than those of us wishing failure upon OSU and TP.

[irishunclebill]

I have to side with Napoleon on this one. We would be defending him to say if he was down to us and some other school. As much as i dislike Pryor, We would be doing the same if he was choosing us.

Speak for yourself only ND23, please don't include me in your "we".

[irishunclebill]

IUB, so you'd be fine if coach Weis recruited a player that had a DUI, or was busted driving with pot?

But you wouldn't want him to recruit someone that gets in yelling matches(not fights, but just yelling)?

Odd standards that have at Notre Dame now.

Buck, just as you always do when we have these discussions, you attribute something to me that I never said or even implied. You are the one who made the comparison, not me. Your consistency is amazing.

The fact of the matter is that even if CW wanted to recruit a kid with a DUI or a record that included a drug infraction, he would not be able to because Notre Dame’s admission standards would most likely disqualify someone in that situation, student-athlete or not.

What I find thoroughly hysterical about your hypocritical self-righteous defense of Pryor is that if he was headed somewhere other than Ohio State, we would not have heard a peep from you in this thread, yet you act as though you are just sticking up for this poor misbegotten soul because he is being wrongly accused. I really do find such hypocrisy amusing.

I have hoped all along that Pryor would end up at Ohio State because I would prefer that Notre Dame not have to deal with Pryor’s obvious immense talent for the next four years. However, I have now changed my mind. I wouldn’t mind seeing Pryor at scUM just for the pure and utter enjoyment of being able to watch how quickly all you sanctimonious Buckeye fans would turn on him. Unfortunately, I am not likely to have that pleasure.

[mlcspinner]

IUB, so you'd be fine if coach Weis recruited a player that had a DUI, or was busted driving with pot?





GH still recruited me :nanana: :alcoholic::medicated::bigsmile::whistle:

[SoCalDomer]

GH still recruited me :nanana: :alcoholic::medicated::bigsmile:

that's cause you're our project. every year we adopt someone who lives behind the iron curtain of the Northeast. :bigsmile:

[daytonirish]

And you recruited me spinner. That's right IUB it was spinner.; :nanana: :looney: :nuts: :gooooofy: :eek:

[BigIrish]

well, napolean raises an interesting point. can we take an honest look at ourselves and admit our own discipline problems? let's see how long the list is....

napolean uses only two examples because he quickly runs out beyond the ones he mentioned. the two he mentioned served or are serving suspensions. (nevermind the fact that one is a basketball player and we're talking about football programs here...)

hand could be added to that list. D.Jones got picked up for a possession charge, but that was dropped. if you want to get really picky, throw clausen on as well. and if we're covering weis' entire tenure, throw in RPN just for good measure. can anyone think of anybody else to add to the list?

i can't. now, the question is, how does our list of discipline problems stack up to the one scooper posted earlier?

[napoleonbuck]

The issue isn't whose list is longer. That's not the point. The point is if Pryor was on Notre Dame's short list of infractions, he wouldn't be getting nearly the treatment he would be if he was on Ohio State's list.

A DUI on Notre Dame's list is just "having too many drinks", where on Ohio State's list it's just another example of a renegade program.

I'm not trying to say Ohio State doesn't have it's litany list of problems. Lord knows they do. However, that's irrelevant to the discussion, just like I think McAlarney's and Yeatman's problems are irrelevant.

The only thing relevant are the actions of Terrelle Pryor. The actions of others aren't indicative at all of what Terrelle has done or will do. So far Terrelle has shown himself to be hot headed, but certainly not a thug, and certainly not worse than a few student athletes at Notre Dame or Ohio State.

I do think it's funny though that Notre Dame fans think they wouldn't be defending him if he was actually considering them.

It's no different in my eyes like when Notre Dame fans defended the actions of Clausen when other fans(including Ohio State fans) called him a horse's ass for his recruitment, actions, and words.

[daytonirish]

When a player gets a DUI at ND is his suppended from his team. (Raeshawn power neal, Will Yeatman)
When a player at Ohio State is charged Alex Boone what was the penalty ?
As far as Pryor goes I have not said one thing about him breaking the law or being a thug. I do believe and so do you Napolean that Pryor has been a commit to the Bucks for a long time. This crap about his dad and PS is silly. He never made an official visit to Penn ST.

[bayirish]

It's no different in my eyes like when Notre Dame fans defended the actions of Clausen when other fans(including Ohio State fans) called him a horse's ass for his recruitment, actions, and words.

I hope you're not comparing Clausen to Pryor...talk about apples and oranges.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Pryor bores me.......pick a school already. You won't be scarred for life regardless of which school you choose.

[daytonirish]

Napolean I'll make you a little friendly bet. Besides the South Bend media who else was at Clausen announcement ?

Compare that to how many will be at Pryor announcement. I'm takeing Pryor on more media folks. Wanna bet.

[napoleonbuck]

When a player gets a DUI at ND is his suppended from his team. (Raeshawn power neal, Will Yeatman)
When a player at Ohio State is charged Alex Boone what was the penalty ?
As far as Pryor goes I have not said one thing about him breaking the law or being a thug. I do believe and so do you Napolean that Pryor has been a commit to the Bucks for a long time. This crap about his dad and PS is silly. He never made an official visit to Penn ST.

Of course it's BS, but his dad wanted him to consider them again. I think that's the only reason he delayed announcing. He didn't officially visit, but he did go there for the playoffs this week and he's had many visits with bradley and other coaches since signing day.

It was only to appease his dad, who I believe was a life long Nittany Lions fan.

It definitely wasn't to get more attention because since signing day he hasn't really been in the spotlight. He made some visits, gave some short interviews and that's it. It's not like he's been on ESPN News giving teaser interviews every other day.

I also wasn't comparing Clausen and Pryor directly, but rather the defense of Clausen by Notre Dame fans to the defense of Pryor by Ohio State fans.

Both did things they probably shouldn't have, but neither of them did anything I would construe as serious or offensive. Pryor looks like a "thug" to some people, where as Clausen looked extremely arrogant. Both were defended by their fanbases as they should be IMO.

[daytonirish]

Ever time Pryor went somewhere it was on every Ohio St site ,scUM, Oregon, Penn ST, for awhile he added LSU, Pitt. It was all over rivals.com,scout.com. Maybe I'll pretend to believe he wasn't seeking media attention, but why does he make it a point to announce that an ex-nfl player is helping him with his recruitment. Who by the way played in the mac, not alot of first hand knowledge of big time recruiting for Charlie Batch. You gotta admit the kid likes the spot light .

[Svoboda]

He's going to be a Buckeye. This has been the worst kept secret for a year... he's been a Buck for ages and just played the game so he could keep himself in the spotlight. Anyone that says anything different is extremely naive.

[napoleonbuck]

they followed his every move sure, but that doesn't mean he loves it. Gossip mags follow celebrities every move, but that doesn't mean they all enjoy the attention. The fact is he's been pretty inwardly focused since signing day.

I don't recall him "announcing" Charlie Batch would be helping him. I do know Batch was dating his aunt and offered to help him along if he wished. I'm sure Batch isn't familiar with big time recruiting, but I bet he's familiar with what it takes to develop a quarterback, and what it takes to be successful in college.

[daytonirish]

So Batch is the new QB coach at Ohio State ?

[stonebreakerwasgod]

UM is soo screwed. They'll have a decent D next year, especially on the front four, but their offense should be less than spectacular.

[napoleonbuck]

So Batch is the new QB coach at Ohio State ?

Huh?

Are you saying we'd need to hire Batch to get Pryor?

Charlie Batch, regardless of what people says, knows what it takes to be a NFL quarterback, which is ultimately Terrelle's goal. That's the only advising role he player from what I understand.

[Svoboda]

they followed his every move sure, but that doesn't mean he loves it. Gossip mags follow celebrities every move, but that doesn't mean they all enjoy the attention. The fact is he's been pretty inwardly focused since signing day.

I don't recall him "announcing" Charlie Batch would be helping him. I do know Batch was dating his aunt and offered to help him along if he wished. I'm sure Batch isn't familiar with big time recruiting, but I bet he's familiar with what it takes to develop a quarterback, and what it takes to be successful in college.
C'mon... explain asking Brewster for a Buckeye sticker for his helmet at the Army All-American game but strolling around in a Michigan sweatshirt? This is just one of many examples where this kid has shown he is immature and classless.

I was actually hoping he went to Michigan because I have no respect for that program and I do have tons of respect for Ohio State. This kid is immature and a total headcase. I'm going to be very interested to see how he handles adversity at the next level.

[daytonirish]

So your saying he is. Or tressel just lets anyone come in to advice his players ? That makes no sense napolean.

[Svoboda]

I really doubt Batch had any involvement in the recruitment of Pryor.

[Fishin'_Irish]

So your saying he is. Or tressel just lets anyone come in to advice his players ? That makes no sense napolean.

Tressel didn't do anything wrong here, if that's what you're trying to imply. I think Napoleon was just confused as to why you asked if Charlie Batch is OSU's new QB coach.

[Fishin'_Irish]

I really doubt Batch had any involvement in the recruitment of Pryor.

And even if he did, it's a non-factor in the discussion of his character.

[napoleonbuck]

C'mon... explain asking Brewster for a Buckeye sticker for his helmet at the Army All-American game but strolling around in a Michigan sweatshirt? This is just one of many examples where this kid has shown he is immature and classless.

I was actually hoping he went to Michigan because I have no respect for that program and I do have tons of respect for Ohio State. This kid is immature and a total headcase. I'm going to be very interested to see how he handles adversity at the next level.

If that makes him immature and classless, I'd hate to hear what you thought of Clausen's announcement...

Not saying he was right with playing with the media, but does that really make him classless? Immature I could see, but classless? A headcase? All for wearing a Michigan sweatshirt? I agree it does take a demented person to wear such attire, but I don't think that applies here.

[daytonirish]

Napolean I have to give you alot of credit. You come on this site and take alot of crap and still you stay pretty level headed your a better man than me.

[Svoboda]

If that makes him immature and classless, I'd hate to hear what you thought of Clausen's announcement...

Not saying he was right with playing with the media, but does that really make him classless? Immature I could see, but classless? A headcase? All for wearing a Michigan sweatshirt? I agree it does take a demented person to wear such attire, but I don't think that applies here.

Clausen never played that he was going anywhere besides from Notre Dame. While his annoucement was a bit much, his recruitment does not parallel Pryors on any level.

So you're saying Pryor conducted his recruitment with class and dignity?

[napoleonbuck]

I'm not saying anything other than I don't think it was "classless". Did he run it perfectly? Most likely not? However, that doesn't make it classless.

Do you think Clausen's announcement was classless and without dignity?

[daytonirish]

While Pryors announcement won't be at the College Football hall of Fame it will be caried by more media , and get far bigger press coverage than Jimmy's ever did.

[Svoboda]

I'm not saying anything other than I don't think it was "classless". Did he run it perfectly? Most likely not? However, that doesn't make it classless.

Do you think Clausen's announcement was classless and without dignity?
Nope, I sure don't. It was flamboyant, over the top and immature for making the four national titles statement, but he said he hoped to win four, not that they would. Again, comparing Clausen to Pryor is night and day.

I could document the entire Pryor fiasco, but it's no use. He is exactly as I've described him and for those that haven't been in the Pryor sweepstakes and have bias because they have a horse in the race see the same thing. Good luck to him in Columbus... he's been a Buckeye for a year now so it's about damn time he's made it official.

[napoleonbuck]

What about the stretch limo? Surely you think that's classless, right?

I believe neither Clausen or Pryor, for all the criticism they've received, ever did anything that would be considered classless. Both have some maturity issues and need/needed to grow up when they got to college.

I think most people here would agree Clausen was unfairly criticized by other teams(USC and Michigan being the biggest culprits) for his recruitment, and I believe the same holds true for Pryor.

If he had a criminal past, or his thug actions extended beyond extremely heated yelling matches with fans, then I'd be a little more worried, but so far I think he's done nothing that would be an immediate red flag to me.

[IrishGrizz]

Wow, buck, you are like the energizer bunny, you keep going and going...

[bayirish]

Even when he's wrong too! Pryor hasnt done anything classless? Please! Let's let this one die out, because it's going in a circle

[napoleonbuck]

Fair enough. I'll quit the argument.

[IrishGrizz]

Buck, I for one remember a certain poster about a month ago that was in an arguement (not to say this thread was an arguement- it was a discussion) and he got so exercised that he called people out and was then banned, all because he could not convince people to agree with his point. You, on the other hand have tried to make your point and when it was all finished, let it drop without flaming or going ballistic. Kudos to you.

[Akron Irish]

Did he commit to OSU? If not, wonder if Nappy Buck will change his tune if he commits elsewhere.

[Akron Irish]

What about the stretch limo? Surely you think that's classless, right?

I believe neither Clausen or Pryor, for all the criticism they've received, ever did anything that would be considered classless. Both have some maturity issues and need/needed to grow up when they got to college.

I think most people here would agree Clausen was unfairly criticized by other teams(USC and Michigan being the biggest culprits) for his recruitment, and I believe the same holds true for Pryor.

If he had a criminal past, or his thug actions extended beyond extremely heated yelling matches with fans, then I'd be a little more worried, but so far I think he's done nothing that would be an immediate red flag to me.

I always thought they were pretty classy. Stretch Hummers are pushing it.

[marv81s]

he got it over with and had fun doing it, he was 17, it is what he worked for all his life and it was his moment and he took advantage of it.

Pryor has known since last year where he was going, he could have announced it back then, instead he whored himself out and then bitched and moaned about the process and all the attention and stress. Blah blah blah. Meanwhile he was the one that would contact people and feed them B.S. just to get back into the spot light. Taking an official to Duke when he clearly had zero intention of going there? He's been a silent to osu for almost a year. Don't get me wrong, I have no hard feelings for a person that wants to take all 5 officials to colleges of their choice, but there is a right and wrong way to go about the process. Was JC's over the top, yeah probably, but giving the kid a hard time about a stretch hummer limo to his announcement? big f'n deal. If some kids had the funds that his p's have, wouldn't some of us use that and take a limo to say your senior prom? or maybe even a stupid ass class reunion? or to a rock concert?

I feel pryor has been the perfect example of what is wrong with the recruiting world for high school football players and has been a great example of how not to handle your recruitment. But in fairness to him, at least he wasn't one of those boneheads that commit and then recommit and then commit to a different school 2 months later. So he had that going for him. But when I look at him, I see a future Mo Clarrett in the making. He better grow up in a hurry, because if he thought the kids were brutal at a high school basketball game, just wait till he goes to the big house for a game and to happy valley. He better get some thick skin

[scooper]

It's no different in my eyes like when Notre Dame fans defended the actions of Clausen when other fans(including Ohio State fans) called him a horse's ass for his recruitment, actions, and words.

Right, because Clausen tells opposing fans he is going to f##king kill them when they get outside.

As for the amusement park? Go ahead and write it off. A security guard is an authority figure. You are on their turf. Don't fight with them. It's that simple.

[scooper]

What about the stretch limo?

Stretch Limo? Telling people you are going to f##king kill them?

Stretch Limo? Telling people you are going to f##king kill them?

Stretch Limo? Telling people you are going to f##king kill them?

Hmmm. Yep. Sounds like exactly the same thing to me.

Keep drinking the kool aid.

[Svoboda]

I believe he and his team also started/got in a fight this past week (or two weeks ago) at a basketball game and was given anger management classes as a result. My wife the social worker would tell me that multiple incidents show a pattern of demonstrated behavior.

[ND Fanatic]

UM is soo screwed. They'll have a decent D next year, especially on the front four, but their offense should be less than spectacular.


Stoney, they won't have a front four, RR has said that he plans on running a 3-3-5. A 3-3-5 in the Big Televen - you have got to be kidding me. :alcoholic::alcoholic:

[Svoboda]

Stoney, they won't have a front four, RR has said that he plans on running a 3-3-5. A 3-3-5 in the Big Televen - you have got to be kidding me. :alcoholic::alcoholic:
Did he really? I told people that he would stick with what he knows and I was told I was off my rocker. I can't wait to see that scheme with his schedule.

[ND Fanatic]

Did he really? I told people that he would stick with what he knows and I was told I was off my rocker. I can't wait to see that scheme with his schedule.


Thats what he said, I can't imagine what a team like Wisconson will do to a 3-3-5...

[SoCalDomer]

Michigan's new offense and defense, along with Auburn changing to the spread-option, will really test whether speed and quickness can overcome traditional size/strength. I will be interested to see what it does to the success of the programs, and to the numbers of players they make NFL ready.

[NotreDameNate]

I'm with you SoCalDomer, pretty curious. Hopefully RichRod will be allowed enough time to get his players in the program and developed. I really think Michigan is going to struggle these next couple of years, or until he can get a q.b. similar to Pat White then things could be interesting.

[IrishR#1]

Will Michigan have a quarterback next year or will they just do direct snaps to the racially-confused McGuffie?

[IrishGrizz]

They have 3 man competition now, meaning they don't have anyone yet. Kinda like us last year, so I hope they have alot of struggling moments on 08.