'08 FL CB Jeremy Brown (Florida LOI)

[Svoboda]

Jeremy Brown – Cornerback
Orlando (FL) Boone

Links of Interest: Rivals Profile ( http://notredame.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=60957&sport=1)

Height: 5-foot-11
Weight: 170 lbs.

Combine
Forty: 4.50
Bench Reps:
Bench Max: 250
Squat Max: 330
Shuttle:
Vertical: 35 in.
GPA: 2.9

Star Ratings
Rivals.com: ****
Scout.com: ***

Rankings & Accolades
Rivals #17 CB
Scout #28 CB

Statistics
2006- 13 Receptions 213 Yards, 6 TD’s
7 Interceptions

Schools of Interest
Auburn
Clemson
Florida
Georgia
LSU
Miami, FL
Notre Dame
South Carolina
Tennessee
Wisconsin

[irishunclebill]

Jeremy Brown

[irishunclebill]

Although Jeremy Brown still says that all 10 of his Schools of Interest are in the running, and he has scheduled 5 Official Visits, Jeremy will most likely choose between Notre Dame & Florida. According to Jeremy’s father Florida has yet to extend an official written offer. Jeremy’s last official visit will be at South Bend for the USC game.

Jeremy Brown’s Official Visits:

Auburn 8/31/07
Georgia 9/7/07
Wisconsin 9/21/07
LSU 10/5/07
Notre Dame 10/19/07

[IrishKnight1023]

Although Jeremy Brown still says that all 10 of his Schools of Interest are in the running, and he has scheduled 5 Official Visits, Jeremy will most likely choose between Notre Dame & Florida. According to Jeremy’s father Florida has yet to extend an official written offer. Jeremy’s last official visit will be at South Bend for the USC game.

Jeremy Brown’s Official Visits:

Auburn 8/31/07
Georgia 9/7/07
Wisconsin 9/21/07
LSU 10/5/07
Notre Dame 10/19/07


----------No official to Florida? niccce. I see him coming to ND as an athlete.

[Svoboda]

He doens't need to visit Florida officially since he lives in Florida. His officials are being used to schools where the costs would be much more expensive.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I hope we play well against SC. Lots of outside eyes on that game.

[irishunclebill]

----------No official to Florida? niccce. I see him coming to ND as an athlete.

I think that's the only way he gets in. I just watched some more film of Brown, and I just don't see him in the physical mold of Cornerback that CB is looking for. Still his talent is sufficient that they should be able to find a spot for him. Only thing is by 10/20 will there still be a spot available for a guy who they will definitely not hold a schollie for.

Without a doubt Jeremy's favorites are ND & Florida, but he is in a bad position right now. Urbie would not accept him right now even if he does have a legitimate offer, which seems to be in question, and if he waits too long to commit to ND there may not be an open slot.

[Svoboda]

It's been verified by multiple folks that he does not have a written Florida offer.

[marv81s]

that is hard to believe, guess Urbie hasn't found the time to "get to know him better"

[Sureal]

Urban is going to wait until he commits and then he'll give that good ole effort in trying to win a recruit...

[brownkj002]

According to scout, JB will be visiting ND in early July.

[IrishRamMan10]

if mccarthy commits before then do we take him if he wants to commit?

[Ricochet]

if mccarthy commits before then do we take him if he wants to commit?Thats a great question that none of us can answer, I would assume it's either or from what we've heard what ND is expected to do.

[Svoboda]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Notre Dame bypass on a RB to allow for a fourth person in the defensive backfield.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Me too.

[rontdtarchala]

I second that do to the fact we have some great rb's but I still would prefer to see a top flight rb taken this year...I think if not the rest of this year for sure next year CW/and staff can become very perticular and that will be definite if we have a good season.

[irishunclebill]

Don't forget that Brown is a WR as well, and would like to have the opportunity to play WR in college. He does not fit the size type that ND is now looking for in a WR, but his flexibility would be an asset. Also if they are looking to get 2 more WR's to supplement Goodman, Brown may end up being the second one unless CW/CB can pull off another coup by grabbing both Floyd & Baldwin.

[IrishKnight1023]

I missed the news all damn day, but one thing is for sure I think Jeremy will commit on his trip. I mean come on, the writings on the wall with this kid. Does anybody really expect him to come and not commit after hearing him rant and rave about CB without meeting him in person? One sit down meeting with CB and he'll commit. I want him alot because he can play CB or WR and he is a Florida kid and I like them.

[IrishCalves]

Don't forget that Brown is a WR as well, and would like to have the opportunity to play WR in college. He does not fit the size type that ND is now looking for in a WR, but his flexibility would be an asset. Also if they are looking to get 2 more WR's to supplement Goodman, Brown may end up being the second one unless CW/CB can pull off another coup by grabbing both Floyd & Baldwin.

Right right. Its not completely unprecidented for ND to bring in small guys (Tate, Gallup, and West are all under 6 feet).

Brown could be a nice compliment to the size of Goodman and Floyd, assuming IUB's avatar isn't just a coincidental mistake. ;)

But who knows. We may have the answers we're looking for in the blink of an eye.

[scooper]

Gallup is only an acorn short of 6-0. Tate is 6-0. Neither are big WR's, but they are not exactly smurfs, either.

[IrishCalves]

Gallup is only an acorn short of 6-0. Tate is 6-0. Neither are big WR's, but they are not exactly smurfs, either.

You're forgetting George West, at 5'8" (http://und.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/west_george00.html). And lets not forget the only clear starter we've got, in David Grimes, listed at 5'10" (http://und.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/grimes_david00.html).

Weis had Dieon Branch, and came away three super bowl rings heavier as of consequence. I don't think he'd shy away from Jeremy Brown because of him being 5'11", at all.

[scooper]

You're forgetting George West, at 5'8" (http://und.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/west_george00.html). And lets not forget the only clear starter we've got, in David Grimes, listed at 5'10" (http://und.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/grimes_david00.html).

Weis had Dieon Branch, and came away three super bowl rings heavier as of consequence. I don't think he'd shy away from Jeremy Brown because of him being 5'11", at all.

Right. I wasn't saying we don't have the short guys. Just that counting Gallup and Tate in with the undersized group isn't entirely accurate. Really, for WR's I'd say 5-10 or shorter is undersized. Guys 5-11 - 6-1 are OK sized. Guys 6-2 - 6-4 are bigger WR's. Guys taller than that are Johnathon Baldwin and will look great in blue and gold.

[IrishCalves]

Right. I wasn't saying we don't have the short guys. Just that counting Gallup and Tate in with the undersized group isn't entirely accurate. Really, for WR's I'd say 5-10 or shorter is undersized. Guys 5-11 - 6-1 are OK sized. Guys 6-2 - 6-4 are bigger WR's. Guys taller than that are Johnathon Baldwin and will look great in blue and gold.

Oh, okay. I see what you mean then.

And I totally agree about Baldwin... its truly starting to look like a race to commit now, so anything is possible.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I think if anything, the offered recruits are gonna have to give us a second serious look if they weren't leaning our way to begin with. We'll see.

[Troy's Enterprise Pride]

if Jeremey Brown commits, do we still have room to talk Baldwin and Floyd? ...or does Baldwin get shunned? I hope not.... I really really really like Calvin Johnso.... I mean John Baldwin.

[IrishCalves]

if Jeremey Brown commits, do we still have room to talk Baldwin and Floyd? ...or does Baldwin get shunned? I hope not.... I really really really like Calvin Johnso.... I mean John Baldwin.

Most likely, there will be room. Brown could end up at DB or WR, and considering how heavily Corwin Brown has played into his recruitment, I'd imagine he's being primarily viewed as a DB.

That said, I have to think the staff would rather take in Jonathan Baldwin over Carlton Thomas, if it came to that. RB gets squeezed if need be, if you ask me.

[irishunclebill]

Most likely, there will be room. Brown could end up at DB or WR, and considering how heavily Corwin Brown has played into his recruitment, I'd imagine he's being primarily viewed as a DB.

That said, I have to think the staff would rather take in Jonathan Baldwin over Carlton Thomas, if it came to that. RB gets squeezed if need be, if you ask me.

No doubt about that, much as I like Carlton Thomas, it's a no brainer that Baldwin gets priority here because of the depth chart more than perceived talent. Both have tremendous upsides, but for ND with a Clausen, followed by a Crist, I think you have to go with the potential big time WR if you are forced to choose.

I have to believe that there is a spot for Jeremy Brown right now. I do not think the staff would allow him to spend his own money to come to ND if they were not willing to accept a commit from him, and unless he absolutely hates it at ND, I think he will commit. If ND & Florida are the only 2 places he is considering he could end up losing out on both if he does not commit next week. After next week, it is unlikely he will have a slot available for him at ND, and there is no way Urbie accepts a committment from him this early.

[IrishKnight1023]

Most likely, there will be room. Brown could end up at DB or WR, and considering how heavily Corwin Brown has played into his recruitment, I'd imagine he's being primarily viewed as a DB.

That said, I have to think the staff would rather take in Jonathan Baldwin over Carlton Thomas, if it came to that. RB gets squeezed if need be, if you ask me.

-------I AGREE. I'm a big Jeremy Brown fan......doubt his skills? see his offers...

[IrishCalves]

Can anyone link me to where it says he'll be visiting the 6th-7th? I'm trying to start a count down for when he pledges as Irish.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I see the avatar, somebody's ready..

[fighting doug]

If he commits and we miss out on a couple WR I put good money on Weis moving him to offense. He looks fast as hell and we need all the deep threats that we can get.

[IrishCalves]

Does he start his visit today, or is it the 6th?

[scooper]

Does he start his visit today, or is it the 6th?
He is coming up on the 26th.

[IrishCalves]

In which case, thanks.

[tedwick]

i've said before that i don't think we'll take both brown and mccarthy, at least until we know what's going on at WR... but i may be wrong. sounds like mccarthy and brown may both be irish by GT.

[scooper]

Or by August, for that matter.

[NDGirlzRock]

Mark my words guys! Being from Orlando and knowing the draw for the Gators here...by the way I used to live in South Bend...for him to change plans midstream and come for a visit means only one thing....GO IRISH! This kid can flat out play. There is just something about him that screams GO IRISH! I've seen him play and he was everywhere. One of his best qualities is what he does when the ball isn't coming his way. He doesn't stop! He gets after every play.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I have a good feeling about him. I understand he may not be our #1 left available, but I'd still luv to see him come here.

[NDGirlzRock]

It's not about who has the tip top class, but what they do with what they do get. I would rather have the one or two elite guys and the other great prospects (Ethan Johnson, McDonald, Fleming, Cwynar) that can work within the frame work set by CW and CB, than 6 elite guys with major attitude. What is college football for but to learn more and hone your skills. I'm sorry, but with very few exceptions, do you ever see these guys come in a dominate right off the bat. There is a learning curve!!! If the kid is willing to come in and really learn what the heck is happening on the field...you have a solid guy for 2 to 3 years. The big time attitude guys come in play two years and then say see ya....frankly that shows a lack of respect for program that paid your way in the first place.

I think Jeremy Brown tipifies this statement.

[jonesman]

I believe if Brown commits that McCarthy is left out in the cold. We will have two solid safeties and a solid CB. We have voids to fill at LB(2), OL(2), WR(2) and RB(1). This would make our class 25. We could skip on the RB, but I still think we have to take all the rest in order to meet needs. Actually, I think McCarthy is already looking at ND as full at his position. Look at who is enrolled and who has committed. I have good feelings about our pass D going forward.

[untitledproject]

Your math equates to 24? Or are you adding someone in?

I think we're going to land: 2 LB's, 1 OL, 2 WR's, 2 DB's.

[HoffVir]

RB may be left empty, or a 4th OL doesn't come on, etc ... we haven't seen something that says it's McCarthy OR Brown. It could be both.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I say 25 this year. But I'm optomistic.

[IrishKnight1023]

Ok, neither Jeremy or McCarthy will be left out. That is a fact so you can stop speculating.

[tedwick]

Ok, neither Jeremy or McCarthy will be left out. That is a fact so you can stop speculating.i'm not so sure that's a fact. i mean, it's looking more and more like that, but truth is we may only take 3 DBs. If we land our WR targets, we may only take one of the two. i'm not saying that this is what's happening, but one of them being on the outside looking in is still a possibility.

i'll believe we're taking both when both have committed.

[ND Fanatic]

Ok, neither Jeremy or McCarthy will be left out. That is a fact so you can stop speculating.

For the most part I agree with you IK, but I think it may all come down to timing. With both players "scheduled" to commit by the end of July, I think we take both. But if one of them, no matter which one, wait to commit until Dec/Jan/Feb, I don't think they would have a spot for them.

If everything goes as planned, you are correct, they both have a spot.

[untitledproject]

Ok, neither Jeremy or McCarthy will be left out. That is a fact so you can stop speculating.

I think he's already getting fitted for his Gold Helmet.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I agree, and it's a good fit.

[rontdtarchala]

would like to see both but I also want a top notch rb...to me that's a position you need to get one of every year no matter what...

[robdog_5]

I also think Brown and McCarthy will be in even if JBrown comes in as an ATH, maybe WR or CB depending on numbers or how the staff feels come next spring/summer

[IrishKnight1023]

Robdog you've been MIA for a while.

[scooper]

Yep, both come in and as Robdog said, Brown's ultimate position would be up in the air.

[robdog_5]

Well I coach in HS and Spring and Summer are extremley busy but now I have a little more free time during the day since our PPW Camp (I helped run) is over. You should see me poping in a little more now

BTW I really like Brown and would take him over McCarthy but I will gladly take 2

[untitledproject]

BTW I really like Brown and would take him over McCarthy but I will gladly take 2


I'm in the same camp.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I like Brown myself. He sounds/acts like he wants to be here, and I think his upside and versatility are sufficient.

[rontdtarchala]

hate to always agree but thats been my mantra for quite some time we want and need people that love ND...

[tedwick]

meh. we've got enough small recievers, so the versatility isn't really a great benefit. that's my issue. i'd rather take brown at cb, but it looks like we've already got two in slaughter and blanton. that being said, i don't think taking brown as an athlete is a great idea. he's got to play in the defensive backfield to make him worth the schollie to me.

[untitledproject]

Something silly.

Bah, talent is talent. He would be a great asset.

[goirish41]

meh. we've got enough small recievers, so the versatility isn't really a great benefit. that's my issue. i'd rather take brown at cb, but it looks like we've already got two in slaughter and blanton. that being said, i don't think taking brown as an athlete is a great idea. he's got to play in the defensive backfield to make him worth the schollie to me.

Finally ... someone who agrees with me. Before we got Blanton or Slaughter, I was big on getting Brown on board. Now ... not so much. We've got a bunch of guys like him already.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I wonder what CW is thinking about all of this.

[Svoboda]

meh. we've got enough small recievers, so the versatility isn't really a great benefit. that's my issue. i'd rather take brown at cb, but it looks like we've already got two in slaughter and blanton. that being said, i don't think taking brown as an athlete is a great idea. he's got to play in the defensive backfield to make him worth the schollie to me.
Agreed 100%.

I'll take this further with the fact that Blanton and Slaughter are now on board, I'm okay without Brown as I'd rather have McCarthy to round out three in the defensive backfield and use that scholarship elsewhere.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Ya think CW is gonna put him on hold until he gets an anwer from McCarthy? I doubt that, but maybe he will ask for another month or so before he accepts.

[HoffVir]

We're going to know about McCarthy before Brown gets up to ND.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I forgot about his visit.

[goirish41]

I think Brown and McCarthy may be in a race to see who pulls the trigger first. Then again, maybe I'm completely misguided.

[IrishKnight1023]

The staff will take both as long as Jeremy commits on his visit. The staff won't wait long and hold a spot for him because other guys will be taking his slot. If they both committ when they are supposed to (McCarthy-Monday/ Jeremy-On his visit the 26th) then they'll take both. Do you think Weis will say "Sorry Jeremy, I know you spent money on your plane ticket but McCarthy committed Monday". No that won't happen, but he has to commit on his visit if he wants a spot.

[tedwick]

if mccarthy commits before brown's visit, if brown doesn't commit within a week, he's out. i just get that feeling. if he's not blown away by ND, it's splitsville. i don't think he needs to commit on the visit, but sometime soon after.

[weis19]

agreed-tedwick

[Ricochet]

The staff will take both as long as Jeremy commits on his visit. The staff won't wait long and hold a spot for him because other guys will be taking his slot. If they both committ when they are supposed to (McCarthy-Monday/ Jeremy-On his visit the 26th) then they'll take both. Do you think Weis will say "Sorry Jeremy, I know you spent money on your plane ticket but McCarthy committed Monday". No that won't happen, but he has to commit on his visit if he wants a spot.I agree completely if McCarthy does indeed commit on Monday like expected the Brown's only chance with ND IMO is to commit while visiting. But let me play Devil's advocate because there is talk of TJ Bryant making a trip to ND with Sabino and let's say he gets sold on Weis, Brown and everything and ND and wants to commit on the spot as does Jeremy Brown what does coach Weis and Brown do and say?

[stew654]

You say welcome to the fam TJ !! TJ, blanton, slaughter and mcarthey wow. JB moves to wr, then you hope floyd jumps on board. I really dont think we are in on enough wr's, doesnt seem to me that we have enough offers out. Who are we in on: floyd (high %), butler and baldwin dont get that fuzzy feeling. Correct me if im wrong but that is 3 guys, 4 if you include brown we are goin after for 2 spots.

I would take TJ (big IF) and floyd,brown,goodman. Got to rebuild that D, weis will get the ball to whoever. Think landing TJ would be a much bigger suprise than baldwin..but what is this i hear about rumors of julio jones??? :D This recruiting year is turning out to be alot of fun seems like anything is possible

[tedwick]

floyd and baldwin give me the fuzzies. which is why i'm anti-brownatwidereciever. and i don't think we can take 3 more guys in the secondary, with TJ, brown and mccarthy ON TOP OF blanton and slaughter.

plus, i don't think we can afford to decide to take no 5th years by august of this year. we need to leave room if someone has an awesome season and wants to come back. we can't take 25 this time around. at some point, we have to slow this down and wait.

[NDGirlzRock]

I don't think that TJ chooses the Irish, but I do believe that it will signal a strong surge in the future. Him taking an unoffical visit up to ND will show all of the SEC and FSU that they aren't going to be tops in the state of Florida any longer. CW has already pulled big names out of Florida...its only going to snowball. I'd take a pipeline to Florida and Chicago anyday. Rock-On-Irish.

[goirish41]

floyd and baldwin give me the fuzzies. which is why i'm anti-brown at widereciever.

took the words right out of my mouth. almost any other year, I'd be beating brown's drum. This year is different. Is there anyone out there that wouldn't rather have Floyd and Baldwin, than Brown and Floyd or Brown and Baldwin? I'd hate to see ND give Brown a spot that could be filled by one of the top two remaining receivers. But I'm sure Charlie knows what he's doing. I guess that's why he's the coach and I'm not.

[scooper]

I want them all. I want Floyd and Baldwin at WR and McCarthy at DB. Then bring in Brown and let's see where he is most needed. He's an athletic kid that could help a team that is still in need of stockpiling athletes.

[notredomer23]

Any chance we bring in 4 wide outs this class if we get Floyd and Butler and then we get baldwin also?

[irishunclebill]

Never say never ND23, but IMO ND has as good a shot at landing Terrelle Pryor as a WR as they do Butler.

[scooper]

I doubt that. For timing as much as anything.

[irishunclebill]

I doubt that. For timing as much as anything.

I should have added, the chances in both cases are little or none.

[scooper]

I should have added, the chances in both cases are little or none.I was responding to his question about taking 4 WR's, but I typed too slow so yours snuck in ahead of me.

What I meant by timing is, by the time all of those WR's decide, this class may be full.

[IrishCalves]

Any chance we bring in 4 wide outs this class if we get Floyd and Butler and then we get baldwin also?

I just don't see how it would happen. Aside from the fact I think Butler is a Trojan to be:

- McCarthy will probably make for verbal #18.

- Weis told Will Compton he's aiming for 5 LBs - which I'm pretty sure he'll be able to attain (Sabino? Filer?) - so we can probably pencil in #'s 19 and 20.

- Michael Floyd will most likely hop on board (#21)...

- ...and Jeremy Brown is a very strong bet to pledge as well (#22).

- That leaves you with two "needs" - a 4th OL (#23) and a 3rd WR (#24).

Tops is 26, and the only way you get more than 25 is by showing to the door to either a 3 year starter at LB (Crum Jr.) or the guy who played the most combined minutes out of any player last year (Lambert).

So for a recruit to knock either of those guys out, they'd have to be a MONDO recruit. I'm talking Shayne Hale, Arthur Brown, Will Hill, Marcus Forston caliber recruits, the consensus top 25 type of player - I just don't think Butler is that high on the coaching staff's wish list.

And on top of that, if we were to take anyone that wasn't an irrefutable 5 star all world recruit, it would probably come at RB instead of Butler. I mean we do have 5 RB's offered and no verbal commitments there, so thats probably an indication of where they'd chose to throw their scholarships if they had space.

[irishunclebill]

ND has a monster class already. Adding the very real possibility of McCarthy, Filer, Floyd, Sabino, and Jeremy Brown to this class and you would have a staggering array of both Offensive & Defensive talent. Filer, Floyd, & Sabino speak for themselves, but McCarthy & Brown are both exceptional athletes no matter where they line up.

If you add Baldwin as the 23rd name, even staggering does not fit, someone will have to come up with a new superlative.

[weis19]

are we seeing the changing of the guard in college football?

[scooper]

A change? No. Just a major addition. USC isn't going anywhere. This should be fun.

[NDChatt]

A change? No. Just a major addition. USC isn't going anywhere. This should be fun.

Whats up with your avatar? When I see it I think of Michigan.

[HoffVir]

It is Meat Chicken. iChoke = Llloyd

[scooper]

Whats up with your avatar? When I see it I think of Michigan.


Which you should because it's Lloyd. I may have to change it. The "ichoke" is hard to read at that size.

[HoffVir]

Only for old foogies.

[scooper]

I do not know what you are talking about.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

ND has a monster class already. Adding the very real possibility of McCarthy, Filer, Floyd, Sabino, and Jeremy Brown to this class and you would have a staggering array of both Offensive & Defensive talent. Filer, Floyd, & Sabino speak for themselves, but McCarthy & Brown are both exceptional athletes no matter where they line up.

If you add Baldwin as the 23rd name, even staggering does not fit, someone will have to come up with a new superlative.


Stonetacular!??

[irishunclebill]

That's It!!!!!!

[scooper]

Stonetacular!??You know they have antibiotics for that.

[rontdtarchala]

stonatouse!!!!

[marv81s]

a good shot of penicillin will clear that right up

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I thought Paris had been tested recently. My bad.

[scooper]

I thought Paris had been tested recently. My bad.
She was. But a lot can happen in a week.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Especially with me around...

[rontdtarchala]

from what I hear it doesn't swell up it blows up.....daaaaaaang!!!

[NDChatt]

Which you should because it's Lloyd. I may have to change it. The "ichoke" is hard to read at that size.

Makes sense now.

[rontdtarchala]

3 loss loyd gotta love em...I want us to beat the .........skunkbears so bad.......hell I can't even come up with the words to acurately discribe it...

[irishunclebill]

Brown has re-confirmed that he is heading to South Bend on 7/26 after visiting 4 schools in the Southeast earlier next week. He just returned from a trip to UNC, so Jeremy is getting around. ND will be his last unofficial visit of the summer, and he plans on cutting down his list of favorites after that last unofficial.:rolleyes:

Jeremy keeps on insisting that he will make all of his Official Visits in the Fall before making any decision, but he knows as well as every ND fan, and the recruiting guys that keep interviewing him and reporting this info, that if he does not commit while at ND next week, or shortly thereafter, that there will be no reason for him to make an Official Visit to South Bend in October.

Also, Brown is reporting that CB is still looking at him as a DB, but that CW is very interested in him as a slot WR. It does seem for certain that the Irish are looking at Brown as an offensive/special teams player now, which is why some ND message boarders keep insisting that Brown is no longer interested in ND. This extended trip would seem to quash those rumors once and for all, plus early in his recruitment Brown was quoted numerous times as saying that he would not mind playing Offense in college and he reiterated that when mentioning that CW was looking at him as a slot guy.

It could be that Jeremy Brown is making this extended trip to make sure that he is comfortable with ND & playing WR for the Irish, or he could be making the trip to convince the ND staff that he can play DB. There are too many rumors floating around about Brown & Florida for me to be convinced that his coming to South Bend means an automatic committment. Some of the basis for the automatic committment theory was that why would he come all the way to Notre Dame on his own dime if he was not going to commit. I think his travels thus far in July, and what he has scheduled next week prior to his visit to the Irish dispels that reasoning, as the kid has been all over the Southeast during the month of July, spending a lot of his own dimes.

What does all of this mean. Merely that another chapter in the ND recruiting saga for this year is about to unfold. Between Trev, Filer, Sabino, and Jeremy Brown, there are going to be a lot of exhausted Irish fans by the end of July.

Not me though, next week I'm at the beach.:D Have fun everyone!!

[Svoboda]

Personally I think it's time to move on with this kid. If he isn't being brought it as a defensive back, there are other (see: taller) wideouts out there I like better.

[notredomer23]

Personally I think it's time to move on with this kid. If he isn't being brought it as a defensive back, there are other (see: taller) wideouts out there I like better.

same, for once i hope a recruit doesnt choose ND. IMO we get Floyd and Baldwin.

[daytonirish]

I hope we get both Floyd and Baldwin but I won't be upset if Brown were to commit on his visit. Then we just have tolet Charlie and Corwin figure out were to play him.

[goirish41]

Personally I think it's time to move on with this kid. If he isn't being brought it as a defensive back, there are other (see: taller) wideouts out there I like better.

I'm with you Svo, and I keep wondering why everyone thinks he's interchangable at CB or WR. He had more interceptions (7) last year than he had touchdown catches (6). His HS team apparenly doesn't use him much as a wideout either. Brown only had 13 catches last year for 213 yards, and averaged 16.4 yards per catch.

When I think of wideout recruiting, I think guys like Michael Floyd who caught 65 balls for 1,245 yards (that's 19.2 yards a catch) and 16 touchdowns.

Michael Floyd ran the ball 12 times last year (only one time fewer than Brown caught the ball) and he had 245 yeards rushing and 3 scores (more than 20 yards a carry). And for the same reason it would be absurd to think we'd move floyd to RB based on those 12 carries, we shouldn't take a guy who is obviously a cornerback and move him to wide receiver.

There are several WR recruits who I'd take long before Brown. He's a CB, and we're full up there ... sorry Jeremy, the early bird gets the worm.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I've kinda changed my thoughts since we got McCarthy. If Brown doesn't fit into our ideal at WR, nor do we NEED him at DB, why should we offer at all. Save it for what is out there next year.

[IrishKnight1023]

I personally think he's visiting all of these schools before SB because he does think he'll most likely commit on his visit. As for setting up officials, it's the same thing just in case his visit is terrible. He's already an admitted lean, but since every ND fan has him pegged for a lock on his visit he doesn't want to give it away. Kind of like Blanton keeping it quiet knowing what they are going to do all along. He's not a bump and run type corner, but he's perfect for a nickel or a slot reciever if he's needed. He'll be with Corwin Brown for 4 days, does anybody think CB WON'T close the deal on him? He knows the bus is full, thats why Corwin told him to come up here in the first place because he doesn't want Jeremy missing out. He's well aware he can't play the waiting game so he's getting the other teams he's interested in visits out of the way BEFORE South Bend. I think it's a mere formality that he'll end his recruitment in the Bend.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I agree with that IK. He will be Irish before I get my next dose of Cincinnati chili.

[scooper]

I'm with you Svo, and I keep wondering why everyone thinks he's interchangable at CB or WR. He had more interceptions (7) last year than he had touchdown catches (6). His HS team apparenly doesn't use him much as a wideout either. Brown only had 13 catches last year for 213 yards, and averaged 16.4 yards per catch.

When I think of wideout recruiting, I think guys like Michael Floyd who caught 65 balls for 1,245 yards (that's 19.2 yards a catch) and 16 touchdowns.

Michael Floyd ran the ball 12 times last year (only one time fewer than Brown caught the ball) and he had 245 yeards rushing and 3 scores (more than 20 yards a carry). And for the same reason it would be absurd to think we'd move floyd to RB based on those 12 carries, we shouldn't take a guy who is obviously a cornerback and move him to wide receiver.

There are several WR recruits who I'd take long before Brown. He's a CB, and we're full up there ... sorry Jeremy, the early bird gets the worm.

Well, a couple pretty important people disagree with your assesment of Brown as a receiver-most notably a guy named Charlie Weis.

How about a guy in the middle of those numbers? A guy who caught 33 for 560 and a 17 yard average? And only four touchdowns? Not huge numbers, but he may be our savior at WR this year. Numbers don't always tell the whole story. If we went by his HS numbers, he should be a safety. 100 tackles, 2 sacks, 3 ints's. Why are we taking a guy who is clearly a safety and making him a WR? :rolleyes:

We're not. We're letting Charlie decide his position.

In past years, I've questioned ND's staff. This year I am learning to put complete faith in their decision making when it comes to recruiting. They obviously like what they see in Brown. If that is the case, I'm excited at the prospect of landing him.

[irishunclebill]

Well, a couple pretty important people disagree with your assesment of Brown as a receiver-most notably a guy named Charlie Weis.

How about a guy in the middle of those numbers? A guy who caught 33 for 560 and a 17 yard average? And only four touchdowns? Not huge numbers, but he may be our savior at WR this year. Numbers don't always tell the whole story. If we went by his HS numbers, he should be a safety. 100 tackles, 2 sacks, 3 ints's. Why are we taking a guy who is clearly a safety and making him a WR? :rolleyes:

We're not. We're letting Charlie decide his position.

In past years, I've questioned ND's staff. This year I am learning to put complete faith in their decision making when it comes to recruiting. They obviously like what they see in Brown. If that is the case, I'm excited at the prospect of landing him.

Thanks scoop, saved me a post. I know a lot of guys don't care for Jeremy Brown as a WR, you can see that all over the ND message boards. I can understand why everybody wants to state their opinion as well, I just hope Brown is not paying attention if he is really interested in ND, and vice versa. What I don't understand is the continued reference to why are we taking this guy. We aren't. The two guys who have accumulated the top recruiting class in the country are, and if Brown makes the trip next week, and if he wants to commit, you can bet your last dollar that he will be Irish.

[IrishKnight1023]

Finally people are starting to see the light. Alot of people are going to be changing their tune if he commits on his visit.

[irishunclebill]

I agree with that IK. He will be Irish before I get my next dose of Cincinnati chili.


I'm not so certain. I feel a wager coming on. I think I have about 10 million vBucks over at IE after winning the McCarthy bet. How about a million says he does not commit by August 1. Pocket change for a multi-millionaire like me.:D

[IrishKnight1023]

I'm not so certain. I feel a wager coming on. I think I have about 10 million vBucks over at IE after winning the McCarthy bet. How about a million says he does not commit by August 1. Pocket change for a multi-millionaire like me.:D

---------I'll take that bet, and your monnneeyy

[Svoboda]

I won't... I just don't like his film. I hope I'm wrong.

[irishziggy]

agreed

[marv81s]

there's two bigger fish on the offer list at WR that I like much, much, much better than Brown.

[HereComeTheIrish]

there's two bigger fish on the offer list at WR that I like much, much, much better than Brown.

It's been such a long time since ND has been able to take this stance on recruiting...and damn does it feel good. They've done so well to this point that now they can "be more selective".

[irishunclebill]

---------I'll take that bet, and your monnneeyy

You're on. I love it when I can bet on something and even if I lose, I don't lose. In fact if I lose, I still win.:)

Remember though the bet is not whether he commits, it's whether he commits before August 1.

Where's Stony?

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I'm saying he commits. I didn't put a timetable on that. But, it does seem that it would have to be sooner than later. Hell, Aug 1 is less than 2 weeks from now. I'm guessing we will know one way or the other by Aug 15.
100,000 that he is Irish by then.

[irishunclebill]

I'm saying he commits. I didn't put a timetable on that. But, it does seem that it would have to be sooner than later. Hell, Aug 1 is less than 2 weeks from now. I'm guessing we will know one way or the other by Aug 15.
100,000 that he is Irish by then.

LOL- Cheapskate, I don't deal in less than millions!!

J/K you're on, and BTW, you completely agreed with IK's post that said he would commit while he was on his visit which is July 26-30, so you did by reference put a timetable on it.

Watch out for the fine print. Damn lawyers!:D

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Well...I did ask for more money. All I have is a measley 3.4 mil. I gotta save that for changing usertitles and betting on the games.

Actually, my agreement was with the part that he would be Irish. When....I'm just guessing sooner than later. However, I don't like betting against the man who is fantastic at his job.

[irishunclebill]

LOL- What a friggin troublemaker you are.

[NDGirlzRock]

Why does it seem like J. Brown is getting cold feet? All indications from here in Orlando were ND all the way, but as of late I've been getting the feeling that something is up. Could it be that the ND love bus has left for JB?

[ND Fanatic]

Why does it seem like J. Brown is getting cold feet? All indications from here in Orlando were ND all the way, but as of late I've been getting the feeling that something is up. Could it be that the ND love bus has left for JB?

I think he may realize that its him or Robinson for the 24th spot, or he doesn't really want to play offense in college and the DMac committment took his spot.

[irishunclebill]

Why does it seem like J. Brown is getting cold feet? All indications from here in Orlando were ND all the way, but as of late I've been getting the feeling that something is up. Could it be that the ND love bus has left for JB?


Any specifics? As of yesterday it was being reported that the visit was still on. Have you seen anything to the contrary.

[NDGirlzRock]

The visit is still on....the problem is how quiet things have been regarding JB. You can hear the crickets cherpin' in a frick' drive-in movie, it's so quiet. For the camp to have been so out spoken about their recruitment, and now to hear nothing, just makes me think something is up. I could also just be gettin' the jitters, cause I'm so psyched that a central-fl boy is possibly heading to the promise land.

[marv81s]

I think you can attribute it to two factors, the McCarthy commitment and the fact that the ND staff feels confident with Floyd and Baldwin. 2 WRs is a must in this class in most of our minds and probably the staffs obviously, and 3 would be a nice bonus, especially if that 3rd is Baldwin. Maybe the staff is not contacting Brown as much as they were before the McCarthy commitment this week? I think with those two factors, that may be why the rumblings of Brown jumping on ND is dying down.

Just a guess

[scooper]

I think you can attribute it to two factors, the McCarthy commitment and the fact that the ND staff feels confident with Floyd and Baldwin. 2 WRs is a must in this class in most of our minds and probably the staffs obviously, and 3 would be a nice bonus, especially if that 3rd is Baldwin. Maybe the staff is not contacting Brown as much as they were before the McCarthy commitment this week? I think with those two factors, that may be why the rumblings of Brown jumping on ND is dying down.

Just a guess

I'm not sure the staff is allowed to make contact right now, so if he's cooling, I doubt that's the reason. I could see the McCarthy commitment affecting how he feels, but not due to a lack of contact.

Kids are allowed to call and visit right now, but I don't think the staff can initiate. I may be wrong about the dead period, though.

[RichardRiot]

Any specifics? As of yesterday it was being reported that the visit was still on. Have you seen anything to the contrary.

I haven't seen anything on cooling re. ND, but there was a teaser on Rivals indicating that he was raving about his UNC visit.

[Troy's Enterprise Pride]

what sources have cooled down? last interview i saw, he said he was excited about his visit and doesnt care about the position that he plays since weis wants him at slot wr. where's your info coming from ndgirlzrock?

[IrishKnight1023]

Or maybe it could be due to the fact that he wants to see as many schools as possible before his last visit of the summer to ND? He knows it's do or die time on his visit for a committment then he's going to try and see everyone else before he goes to South Bend to make it official. Everyone panics too much with this kid.

[irishunclebill]

Here is the thing that confuses me about Brown though re: the impact of McCarthy's commit. Brown all along was saying that he would only make an Official to ND for the USC game. Then all of a sudden the day EJ signed, and there were strong indications that McCarthy was next, he announced that he would be coming up on July 6th. I presumed that the reason for this was that if he really wanted ND, then he wanted to jump on the bus before McCarthy did. However, he changed his plans for the visit once again to July 26th before McCarthy announced. Every indication is that the staff did have McCarthy on board at the end of June, so the fact that Brown changed his plans fron July 6th to July 26th tells me that he was told that McCarthy's impending commit did not affect him. There is no other logical conclusion. Add to that the fact that Brown has acknowledged that CW is looking at him as a slot WR, and I have no doubt that McCarthy has nothing to do with any cold feet on JB's part. The theory being bandied about that I lend the most credence to is that JB is getting cold feet about playing a slot WR, or possibly being relegated to a special teams maven. That is why I no longer think that his impending trip to ND signals an automatic committment. If he does come it is to thoroughly check out ND and to seek a comfort level as to what role he would have in the ND program. After that he may make a decision, but if he wants ND, in all likelihood, it will have to be a pretty quick decision.

The irony of all of this is that if JB is getting cold feet about the Irish because of worries about his role, then the school that some people say he has already "silent verballed" to, the Gators, should be even more of a dilemma for him. If he chooses Florida, he may not even see PT until his senior year. It appears to me that JB and his camp have finally realized that, and are starting to broaden their horizons. Brown has gone from this time last month saying that he is not making any visits this summer to traveling all over the Southeast in July. He was just at UNC, and he is visiting 4 other schools in the SE before, and if, he arrives in South Bend. That kind of schedule tells me that he is not a lock for either ND or Florida, even though they are probably his two favorite schools. The reality is that his skill set and desire to play may be a better fit at a different school, and IMO, the cold feet that we are seeing is an indication of just that.

When I first heard that JB had changed his plans to come to ND quickly I also assumed that if he made the trip he was Irish. I am no longer of that opinion, and although he may make the trip, I think if the ND staff really wants him they are going to have to do a pretty convincing job of selling him on their idea of what is best for him as a college athlete.

[irishunclebill]

I haven't seen anything on cooling re. ND, but there was a teaser on Rivals indicating that he was raving about his UNC visit.

Ignore that one. It was written by the Carolina Blue conspiracy man Adam Powell, who has everyone who visits UNC an impending commit. However, as I said in my previous post, the mere fact that he visited UNC, and the 4 visits he has planned for next week tell me that he is looking.

[scooper]

IUB, I think you are on the money with this one.

[RichardRiot]

Ignore that one. It was written by the Carolina Blue conspiracy man Adam Powell, who has everyone who visits UNC an impending commit. However, as I said in my previous post, the mere fact that he visited UNC, and the 4 visits he has planned for next week tell me that he is looking.

I thought the name rang a bell...he was the guy that 'covered-up' the Little situation??

[irishunclebill]

Or maybe it could be due to the fact that he wants to see as many schools as possible before his last visit of the summer to ND? He knows it's do or die time on his visit for a committment then he's going to try and see everyone else before he goes to South Bend to make it official. Everyone panics too much with this kid.

No panic here. In fact, and I am not one of them, there are an awful lot of ND fans who will not be disappointed if JB chooses someone other than the Irish. I do think you are misreading the visits though. Three months ago this kid was saying that he could not afford to make any visits, now he has close to double digits planned. IMO, it is not to see everyone else to make sure ND is right for him, it is to see everyone else to see if there is a viable alternative to ND & Florida for him. There are just too many smoke signals being thrown around to say with any absoluteness that JB is coming to ND to commit.

As always though that is just my humble opinion, and I could be completely off base.

[irishunclebill]

I thought the name rang a bell...he was the guy that 'covered-up' the Little situation??

Yessir!!

[GhostSpirit]

Maybe the cold feet are because he is hearing from ND fans that ND may not accept his commitment. Looking around to get a back up plan if that's the case. For anyone that doesn't want him aboard, dumb. That is all I'm saying about that. If Jeremy feels comfortable on his visit this month he will be Irish before you can say supercalafragulistic expialodocious.

[IrishCalves]

Maybe the cold feet are because he is hearing from ND fans that ND may not accept his commitment. Looking around to get a back up plan if that's the case. For anyone that doesn't want him aboard, dumb. That is all I'm saying about that. If Jeremy feels comfortable on his visit this month he will be Irish before you can say supercalafragulistic expialodocious.

Glad to see you over at GH Ghost.

Anywho... looking at the latest update has made me realize something. It's going to be like this the whole way in, IMO:

1. Insert Interested Prospect's Name Here: ___________.

2. One poster says, "I really like ___________, I sure hope we get him. Just look at the star ratings and the film from scout/rivals. Boy he's got some talent!

3. Another poster says, "I like him too... but look at prospect _ _ _ _ _ _ _. I like him more than ___________, for reasons X, Y, and Z.

4. #'s 2 and 3 repeat themselves continually.

5. Updates, rumors, and speculation comes from the process described in point #4; said updates and rumors often serve as justification for the side a poster picks regarding points 2 and 3, sometimes at the expense of what reality is.

6. IUB swoops in and flawlessly cleans everything up for everyone to understand.

7. Repeat steps 2-6, one more time for good measure.

8. Prospect ___________ verbally commits to Notre Dame (much to the chagrin of those who preferred prospect _ _ _ _ _ _ _, until they actually pay attention to those who subscribed to point 2, and jump on board themselves).

:D

[pani_nasz]

Calves,

Excellent synopsis of what happens on these message boards. Can you imagine where we would be if we didn't have IUB? :rolleyes:

[scooper]

Hell, Calves, we don't need to read the board now. We can just bring up your post and stick in the recruit of the day.

[IrishCalves]

LOL - you know I was just joshin' y'all. I was just highlighting how everyone else on the big board is really just about as good as the next guy, and that we're splitting hairs trying to figure out who we should or shouldn't take. There are some special guys (Filer, Floyd, Robinson - aka the September 1st offers), but in the end most everyone else is pretty darn good, and certainly not a "problem" if we were to get them.

[NDGirlzRock]

Calves you are always right on with your comments....refreshing!

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Like a cool drink of water on a hot day.

[HoyaIrish]

OK, I'm new here, so I'm going to ask a stupid question. I've seen a few people speculate that so-and-so's verbal might not be accepted. How does CW not accept someone's commitment once they've been offered?

I always imagine an offer is some something on nicely embossed ND letterhead saying "Congratulations, the Fighting Irish coaching staff is delighted to extend..."

I understand the reality of saying, "Sorry kid, you should have pulled the trigger sooner. we told you the bus was filling up..." but are offers somehow non-binding on the university?

[HoyaIrish]

Damn! Typos in my first post.

[irishunclebill]

Yes, they are non-binding, but CW has always accepted verbals from a guy with a written schollie offer as long as his position is not already filled, In the case of Jeremy Brown, if he is coming next week and wants to verbal, that offer will be accepted. If they do not want to accept his offer on the basis of the DB spots being filled, which gives them an out here if they want to take it, then Brown would be told not to make an unofficial visit.

[irishunclebill]

To expound on that if Brown cancels his trip it could be because the staff told him that they no longer have a slot for him, or it could be because he no longer has any interest in the Irish.

[HoyaIrish]

Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. Love this site.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

It does rock.

[irishunclebill]

Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. Love this site.


No problem, and BTW, it was not a stupid question at all. That subject was one of the first things I wondered about when I first became involved in this crazy recruiting stuff. Also, FYI, many coaches are not as ethical about this as CW. The prime example of the antithesis of CW in this regard is Urban Meyer who has now extended over 150 written offers, and has accepted only 2. Although no one comes out and says it on the record, there is every indication that at least 15 recruits have tried to commit to Florida this year, and have been turned down, and told to wait. In virtually every case, the recruit has dissed the Gators and moved on, so Meyer's unethical recruiting practices may be catching up with him a bit. Unfortunately, he will still most likely have the luxury of picking and choosing an elite group for his 2008 class anyway.

[IrishKnight1023]

No problem, and BTW, it was not a stupid question at all. That subject was one of the first things I wondered about when I first became involved in this crazy recruiting stuff. Also, FYI, many coaches are not as ethical about this as CW. The prime example of the antithesis of CW in this regard is Urban Meyer who has now extended over 150 written offers, and has accepted only 2. Although no one comes out and says it on the record, there is every indication that at least 15 recruits have tried to commit to Florida this year, and have been turned down, and told to wait. In virtually every case, the recruit has dissed the Gators and moved on, so Meyer's unethical recruiting practices may be catching up with him a bit. Unfortunately, he will still most likely have the luxury of picking and choosing an elite group for his 2008 class anyway.

-------IUB I think UF has 4 commits now and the most recent two are 3*'s by the all of the recruiting sites, I was suprised to say the least.

[irishunclebill]

-------IUB I think UF has 4 commits now and the most recent two are 3*'s by the all of the recruiting sites, I was suprised to say the least.


Really, interesting, must have just happened. I thought I was just looking at that stuff yesterday. Thanks for the heads up.

[irishunclebill]

-------IUB I think UF has 4 commits now and the most recent two are 3*'s by the all of the recruiting sites, I was suprised to say the least.

Rivals still shows 2, where did you see 4?

[IrishKnight1023]

Rivals still shows 2, where did you see 4?


http://florida.scout.com/a.z?s=168&p=9&c=8&yr=2008

[irishunclebill]

http://florida.scout.com/a.z?s=168&p=9&c=8&yr=2008


Thanks, weird though, shows 7/11 commit date, Rivals should have updated theirs by now. Maybe they don't agree.

[marv81s]

urban accepted guys that were ranked 3 stars????

[scooper]

A Florida recruiting guy was on the Mike Frank show last week and he said one coach relayed to him that even they are surprised at their lack of commitments so far....Man, I hope so.

[daytonirish]

If the Florida staff does send out written letters to players and then doesn't accept there commitment it's going to start to bite them in the butt. This could be why they have so few commitments right now. I would think that highschool coaches as well as the young men themselves have to be getting tired of being treated like this. It should also affect there recruiting in the future. Some coaches or parents might start asking for a little more clarification from the Florida staff before even considering them. Just my 2 cents worth.

[Irish]

Are the Irish less likey to take J. Brown based on Gary Gray's injury. With Gray missing the year he can take a medical redshirt making him in essense part of the 2008 class. I believe they slow play him to see if they need him at WR.

[IrishKnight1023]

I'll bet the world he commits by the end of next weekend......any takers?

[notredomer23]

I'll bet the world he commits by the end of next weekend......any takers?

ive never had a good feeling about him. I dont think he chooses us. That being said, I hope we get him, I just dont know.

[iloveirish_12]

I use to feel good about him but now I think he is going away from us.

[Akron Irish]

I'll bet the world he commits by the end of next weekend......any takers?
Can you cover that bet? If not, you'll be forced to make bad calls as a ref to keep from getting pinched by the mafia

[IrishCalves]

I still think we have an excellent shot at him, but things look more murky than before - when we were hearing of a July 6th visit and whatnot.

That in mind, when was the last time this year a kid went on a 3, 4 day visit and ended up dawning a cap of any color other than Blue and Gold? Ethan Johnson didn't get away. Nor did McCarthy, Crist, or McDonald. Filer spent close to 72 hours in South Bend, and we all know where that one will end up.

Therefore, I feel like its just a matter a scholarship's availability, and whether he and his father want to stick to their official visit guns. They may want to be, "Men of their word" types, or they may say, "We were covering all of our bases; sign me up now!" The vibe from his camp right after Slaughter verballed, and the recipe for a commit is all there - just a matter of whether Corwin & Co. want to stir the ingredients enough to make this recipe come together.

[daytonirish]

I would not mind a commitment from him. Still wonder if he plays off or def. That could deoend on whether we get Baldwin . Floyd i think commits to N.D. not sure about Baldwin haven"t heard to much about him lately.

[IrishCalves]

Here's a perspective I haven't quite seen thrown out with Jeremy.

Most people presume that Jeremy Brown's summer visits to the likes of Georgia, Auburn, North Carolina, etc, is an indication that an ND pledge is anything but imminent, that he's going to take his time on this one and that ND is just a pit stop along the way.

What if he's taking these visits to erase any final doubts he could potentially face? What if he and Dad sat down, and Pops said, "Well, there's a pretty decent chance that we could be looking at a now or never opportunity with the Irish. If you're serious about going to ND, you'd better get on board now. But you'd also better be darn sure about your decision as well. So, do you want to check out the other schools, to cover your bases?"

I mean, he set up his visits a long time ago, and to cancel them or publically back off of them would be a big red flag. Other schools would loose interest/faith in him, and he'd be left as SOL if he didn't enjoy the ND visit like he had anticipated.

Not saying that is what's going on here, but something to consider.

[IrishKnight1023]

Here's a perspective I haven't quite seen thrown out with Jeremy.

Most people presume that Jeremy Brown's summer visits to the likes of Georgia, Auburn, North Carolina, etc, is an indication that an ND pledge is anything but imminent, that he's going to take his time on this one and that ND is just a pit stop along the way.

What if he's taking these visits to erase any final doubts he could potentially face? What if he and Dad sat down, and Pops said, "Well, there's a pretty decent chance that we could be looking at a now or never opportunity with the Irish. If you're serious about going to ND, you'd better get on board now. But you'd also better be darn sure about your decision as well. So, do you want to check out the other schools, to cover your bases?"

I mean, he set up his visits a long time ago, and to cancel them or publically back off of them would be a big red flag. Other schools would loose interest/faith in him, and he'd be left as SOL if he didn't enjoy the ND visit like he had anticipated.

Not saying that is what's going on here, but something to consider.

-----Thats what I have been saying all along as well. He's getting all of these visits right before his LAST trip....South Bend. Why? Because there will be no other visits and feeling out other schools if you commit to ND. Like I said before both of my nuts are on the line for him committing during his 4 day trip. Corwin Brown will seal the deal and all can tell me how great I am for never wavering on Jeremy Brown. If not..I lose two testies and am never able to reproduce. I'M PUTTING IT ALL ON THE LINE!

[IrishCalves]

-----Thats what I have been saying all along as well. He's getting all of these visits right before his LAST trip....South Bend. Why? Because there will be no other visits and feeling out other schools if you commit to ND. Like I said before both of my nuts are on the line for him committing during his 4 day trip. Corwin Brown will seal the deal and all can tell me how great I am for never wavering on Jeremy Brown. If not..I lose two testies and am never able to reproduce. I'M PUTTING IT ALL ON THE LINE!

A world without IK in the gene pool... if you backed your statement up, I'm sure you'd be awarded one of the "Darwin Awards", if there's a silver lining in that...maybe you could sell it on e-bay :confused:.

If I'm parroting your comments, then by all means I give the credit to you. Perhaps I missed a post along the way, dunno. Count me in as a passenger on your "Jeremy Brown to ND Bus." He keeps growing on me. Makes a great special teams compliment to McCarthy in this class.

If there's space for Jeremy (I think there still is), and if the Brown's aren't completely attached to their official visits in the fall, I think he's all ND. Every time we see an extended visit like this, good things come from it - "good" being commits.

[irishziggy]

A world without IK in the gene pool... if you backed your statement up, I'm sure you'd be awarded one of the "Darwin Awards", if there's a silver lining in that...maybe you could sell it on e-bay :confused:.

If I'm parroting your comments, then by all means I give the credit to you. Perhaps I missed a post along the way, dunno. Count me in as a passenger on your "Jeremy Brown to ND Bus." He keeps growing on me. Makes a great special teams compliment to McCarthy in this class.

If there's space for Jeremy (I think there still is), and if the Brown's aren't completely attached to their official visits in the fall, I think he's all ND. Every time we see an extended visit like this, good things come from it - "good" being commits.

Ive been on the bus from the get-go as well

[NDgrandson]

IK23 wrote...

-----Thats what I have been saying all along as well. He's getting all of these visits right before his LAST trip....South Bend. Why? Because there will be no other visits and feeling out other schools if you commit to ND. Like I said before both of my nuts are on the line for him committing during his 4 day trip. Corwin Brown will seal the deal and all can tell me how great I am for never wavering on Jeremy Brown. If not..I lose two testies and am never able to reproduce. I'M PUTTING IT ALL ON THE LINE!

Doesn't Mike Frank have both your nuts in that lawsuit? :rolleyes:

[NDGirlzRock]

-----Thats what I have been saying all along as well. He's getting all of these visits right before his LAST trip....South Bend. Why? Because there will be no other visits and feeling out other schools if you commit to ND. Like I said before both of my nuts are on the line for him committing during his 4 day trip. Corwin Brown will seal the deal and all can tell me how great I am for never wavering on Jeremy Brown. If not..I lose two testies and am never able to reproduce. I'M PUTTING IT ALL ON THE LINE!

Bold move my man or should I say my eunech!

[The New Louis]

This kid is a great athlete/propect but I would much rather round out this class with an athletic freak like Baldwin.

[RocketmanIrish]

I´m with you New Louis on this one. With the way this class fills out, the staff has the luxury of being very very selective which players to take. In my opinion it´s time to shoot only for the best prospects available.

[Svoboda]

I'm now hearing from one of my folks that Brown will indeed commit to Notre Dame while on his trip. He also mentioned that he had been told there are two, possibly three, recruits that will pop Irish soon.

While I'm not a Jeremy Brown fan, it looks like it's all but a done deal.

[NDGirlzRock]

Man I hate smoke screens. When he commits, I'll head out to a few of his high school games and give him some love. I went to one last year and he is good! I think that he will be one of those utility guys that quietly amass alot of time on the field.

[notredomer23]

I'm now hearing from one of my folks that Brown will indeed commit to Notre Dame while on his trip. He also mentioned that he had been told there are two, possibly three, recruits that will pop Irish soon.

While I'm not a Jeremy Brown fan, it looks like it's all but a done deal.

im not a jeremy brown fan either, mainly because i dont want him to play WR, but i will definitly accept his committment happily

[Svoboda]

Here is some video of Jeremy and his squad (http://fridaynightfootball.net/GOWRecap/2006/Week15.wmv) from last season. They were the game of the week and you can see he made some nice plays and made some bad plays.

He wears #8.

[jfschellcrna]

i don't know guys, he looks pretty good on film to me. very fast and elusive. on a couple of plays, he had no problem going over the middle, which is really key. i did see him lay some serious wood on a couple plays, but it concerns me when a kid doesn't complete the play by wrapping the player up. just minor observations. finally, he is playing against florida competition, not vermont.

[jfschellcrna]

hey svo, you posted that while i was posting. not the same video that i was looking at. thanks for the comparison video. the one i was looking at was on rivals.............

[Irish93]

I'm now hearing from one of my folks that Brown will indeed commit to Notre Dame while on his trip. He also mentioned that he had been told there are two, possibly three, recruits that will pop Irish soon.

While I'm not a Jeremy Brown fan, it looks like it's all but a done deal.

I never would have imagined that the 2008 recruiting class would be nearly completed before the season started.

I remember back to CW's comments about taking a hard line approach to the term "commitment." At least for now, it appears to be paying off.

[NDisNCin2010]

i really like JBrown as a WR...he seems to have "it" on the football field, and that you can't teach...on film reminds me of a Deion Branch type WR, and we all know how Charlie did with him. his versatility (O or D) does make him valuable to have in the arsenal for both Corwin and Charlie.
also JBrown, in his interviews, seems like a REALLY good kid with his head on straight that would represent the University and the team well.
but if its JB at expense of possibly a Baldwin, Harper or D Walker (where did that visit come from? WTF?) id rather "wait it out" and see what happens. we got time.
in the end, all i really want is that MICHAEL FLOYD commitment, the rest of these guys for WR are really "want" type guys with huge upsides, but not "needs" IMO if we can get Floyd.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I'm not gonna complain having hime come here. Having a Jeff Burris type (ok, that was generous) is not a bad thing to have. Safety nets are a good thing.

[Troy's Enterprise Pride]

Here is some video of Jeremy and his squad (http://fridaynightfootball.net/GOWRecap/2006/Week15.wmv) from last season. They were the game of the week and you can see he made some nice plays and made some bad plays.

He wears #8.


wow, he disappeared in that game. so inconsistent. usually you see major studs outshine the competition (even if it is florida 6a state semi ball... the prospects SHOULD still be playmakers and have a significant impact on the game). shoot, after watching that video, id rather take kelvin gaines.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Brown has fallen in my eyes in the last month or so. That said, I have faith in CW. I"d prefer us get Floyd and another top WR, but who knows what is going on behind the scenes.

[Svoboda]

Boone's Top Three Recievers 2006

- Josh Donald 16 catches for 365 yards (22.81 average) 7 TDs
- Kyle Hill 12 catches for 245 yards (20.42 average) 0 TDs
- Jeremy Brown 15 catches for 207 yards (13.80 average) 2 TDs

Brown also had 1 carry for 95 yards and a TD. On defense, he had 13 tackles (7 solo) with 3 interceptions.

The fact that he is not an absolute standout on either side of the ball speaks volumes to me considering it will only be that much harder when transitioning into the college game. I know Charlie and Corwin love him so that's good enough for me but there are other prospects I like much better.

[HoyaIrish]

id rather take kelvin gaines.

Exactly. I kept watching the clip thinking, "Where is he?" Still, I don't claim to know jack about assessing recruits, so like Stoney, I'll applaud his verbal if it comes and welcome him to the team heartily.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Those numbers are awful. What did he do, watch other players hit while he watched with his hands on his hips?

[scooper]

Boone's Top Three Recievers 2006

- Josh Donald 16 catches for 365 yards (22.81 average) 7 TDs
- Kyle Hill 12 catches for 245 yards (20.42 average) 0 TDs
- Jeremy Brown 15 catches for 207 yards (13.80 average) 2 TDs

Brown also had 1 carry for 95 yards and a TD. On defense, he had 13 tackles (7 solo) with 3 interceptions.

The fact that he is not an absolute standout on either side of the ball speaks volumes to me considering it will only be that much harder when transitioning into the college game. I know Charlie and Corwin love him so that's good enough for me but there are other prospects I like much better.

A couple points:

None of their receivers put up huge numbers. That tells me his numbers aren't about his talent, they are about the scheme. It's not like one guy ran off with all of the receptions, though admittedly Donald saw the end zone more.

As for his defensive numbers, it's hard to judge a defensive standout at DB by numbers as they can't control how often they are thrown at.

I made my point in another thread. Brown and Weis are having a tug of war over which side of the ball gets him, and by most accounts, he'll be Irish within a week anyway, so we may as well get used to it.

I'll be happy to have some diversity of style among either our WR's or our CB's.

[therizz]

I was thinking the same thing Scoop

[NDGirlzRock]

Guys, I've seen him play in person and the #s don't speak to the talent that this guy has. Let me say that Boone high school does play some tough com here in central Florida. They play Michael Brewster's, (OSU commit) Edgewater team. As well as several other schools that are considered powerhouses in the area. They just don't pass the ball that much. His average yards per catch should speak more to his ability. Hell look at Baldwin's #s they are ok, but they don't blow you away. Just suffice to say that JB has "it", meaning football ability and intelligence, in buckets. Smart player and even better kid!!! Give him a chance!

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Ah, we can argue his numbers all day long. What matters is the plan in place that CW has for him.

[rontdtarchala]

I wasn't impressed by the video but then I don't want to make my decision on one game film either

[Irishkid]

does anyone know how tall he is i forgot

[scooper]

5-11

FYI, when you need that kind of info, the first post in each of these profiles is a good place to check.

[IrishKnight1023]

I've been saying for months he was definently going to commit on his visit. Looks like I get to keep my balls. I've never seen a possible ND commit get so put down before. Kind of puzzling, guys a gamer and is absolutely perfect for a nickel back corner(Slaughter and Blanton are opposite from nickel back type) and perfect slot receiver. I say he should be welcomed, not be like "Ok fine I guess, if Charlie says so." Weis doesn't watch just highlight film, but game films so he knows what Jeremy can do throughout a game.

[NDGirlzRock]

I've been saying for months he was definently going to commit on his visit. Looks like I get to keep my balls. I've never seen a possible ND commit get so put down before. Kind of puzzling, guys a gamer and is absolutely perfect for a nickel back corner(Slaughter and Blanton are opposite from nickel back type) and perfect slot receiver. I say he should be welcomed, not be like "Ok fine I guess, if Charlie says so." Weis doesn't watch just highlight film, but game films so he knows what Jeremy can do throughout a game.

Thank you IK. Couldn't agree more. I think that we have lost sight of the whole system approach that CW is into. He wants kids that can play within that system. I also think the JB will still grow some. If memory serves, he was a late bloomer in the height department. The kid is a class act and I for one think that he has alot to bring to this recruiting class. Just remember that all of our guys can't be the Filer, Ethan, and Rudolphs of the world. We need guys that are versitle and willing to work hard for the team.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Step down from the soapbox, if Brown is the main concern for the Irish...we're doing darn good with our class. I think he'll be fine, I just think it's time to get a wee bit greedy.

[NDGirlzRock]

Step down from the soapbox, if Brown is the main concern for the Irish...we're doing darn good with our class. I think he'll be fine, I just think it's time to get a wee bit greedy.

Was that a smack and a snap out of it Stoney? Greed is good!

[ND Fanatic]

I've been saying for months he was definently going to commit on his visit. Looks like I get to keep my balls. I've never seen a possible ND commit get so put down before. Kind of puzzling, guys a gamer and is absolutely perfect for a nickel back corner(Slaughter and Blanton are opposite from nickel back type) and perfect slot receiver. I say he should be welcomed, not be like "Ok fine I guess, if Charlie says so." Weis doesn't watch just highlight film, but game films so he knows what Jeremy can do throughout a game.

I think that part of the problem is that no one knows what postion he plays or how good he can be at that postion. I think that people get the impression that he is very good on both the offensive and defensive side of the ball, but not great at either. I think that once he get to ND, and concentrates on his position, he'll become one of all-of-ours favorite players. The kids a gamer, and thats whats important - he'll find his spot and he'll be great doing it.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Was that a smack and a snap out of it Stoney? Greed is good!



Just a humorous whack. LOL

[Ricochet]

I'm all for Jeremy Brown the CB but I'm far from being sold on him being anything special as a WR. From what little I've seen on him as a WR I pass and take the chance that ND can get atleast one of there current WR targets.

[Svoboda]

http://www.fridaynightfootball.net/Teams/Boone/

Go watch the Boone Outlook for more video and discussion on Brown. Feel much better after hearing them discuss him and seeing some better footage. Still think he's a CB and not a wideout.

[tedwick]

I'm all for Jeremy Brown the CB but I'm far from being sold on him being anything special as a WR. From what little I've seen on him as a WR I pass and take the chance that ND can get atleast one of there current WR targets.agreed. with baldwin, walker, and butler as potentials, we can't possibly take brown as anything other than CB, can we?

[Fishin'_Irish]

Well, uh, yeah, we can.

[futurendcoach]

brown would be the be just an extra guy that makes competion better, nothin else he will never start at either position at notredame.

[Fishin'_Irish]

brown would be the be just an extra guy that makes competion better, nothin else he will never start at either position at notredame.

Well you aren't a delight.

[scooper]

Well you aren't a delight.

No, he's a troll. One need only read his other posts to realize it.

[Fishin'_Irish]

Hey now scoop, stop getting hot in your pants. :)

[marv81s]

he's right, the guy is a f'n troll

[NDGirlzRock]

Can we say negative!

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Ya'll need to visit the 'living positive' thread. It's where.......the PUB. :)

[NDGirlzRock]

Back to JB kids!

[marv81s]

i'll take him when he comes on board.

Any 4 star kid out of Texas and/or Fla that turns away the home state schools for ND, I"ll take. Lets worry about where he'll fit in afterwards.

[rontdtarchala]

absolutely. lets get him on board and sort the bodies out after...let the bodies hit the floor....not bad for an old fart aye?

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Dang ron...It's too early to drink. At least wait until around 9:00 like I do. LOL

[tedwick]

absolutely. lets get him on board and sort the bodies out after...let the bodies hit the floor....not bad for an old fart aye?it's not that he's not a great player... we just don't have room for him. we can't take 25 guys this year. 24 is really pushing it. and there are 5 guys out there we can use more than a 5'11" WR/DB hybrid. i mean, we only have 85 bodies that we can take before we sort things out...

i'll be glad if we get him, but it just seems like we could put that spot to much better use.

[HoffVir]

At this point, I'd only bring him on if ND misses out on a 3rd WR (assuming Floyd pulls the trigger), like Baldwin, Butler, Walker, etc.

Use the remaining spots on guys like Sabino, T. Robinson (or other OL), R. Williams (or Thomas) Otherwise, save for next year.

[irishziggy]

it's not that he's not a great player... we just don't have room for him. we can't take 25 guys this year. 24 is really pushing it. and there are 5 guys out there we can use more than a 5'11" WR/DB hybrid. i mean, we only have 85 bodies that we can take before we sort things out...

i'll be glad if we get him, but it just seems like we could put that spot to much better use.

well id be glad to do what charlie wants and not u. sorry bud

[weis19]

jeremy brown has offers from some pretty good programs.

[Svoboda]

I'm now hearing from one of my folks that Brown will indeed commit to Notre Dame while on his trip. He also mentioned that he had been told there are two, possibly three, recruits that will pop Irish soon.

While I'm not a Jeremy Brown fan, it looks like it's all but a done deal.
This is now being backed off of by my campus fella. He could be confused or there are some cats on the team that really are unsure/think different things.

[IrishCalves]

This is now being backed off of by my campus fella. He could be confused or there are some cats on the team that really are unsure/think different things.

I gotta ask... is he backing off both tidbits?

1st tidbit being, J. Brown to ND is imminent.

2nd being, we could see anywhere from 2-3 hop on board in the near future.

[Svoboda]

I gotta ask... is he backing off both tidbits?

1st tidbit being, J. Brown to ND is imminent.

2nd being, we could see anywhere from 2-3 hop on board in the near future.
Just the Jeremy Brown stuff. That's all we discussed this time around.

[YoungIrish]

I think if we want to compete with the USC's and UF's in the future we cant turn down recruits with speed...I think we need a roster stacked with speed to compete..

[rontdtarchala]

funny thing is it doesn't matter what we think....just coach...now don't get me wrong we have some people here who have some hullashus connections...but its not us its just coach

[wyatt]

I don't see why people so hesitant to accept this kid

The kid has 27 or so D1 offers including a rare written offer from Florida(and from every other SEC school, plus Miami, plus VT). So while Charlie and Corwin might between themselves have overrated this kid, it is extremely unlikely that all coaches are equally deluded.

He's a big-time recruit. A bigger recruit than MacDonald who everybody was so happy to land (if you take recruiting cohort as your standard, and not 5 minutes of video highlites).

[tedwick]

I don't see why people so hesitant to accept this kid

The kid has 27 or so D1 offers including a rare written offer from Florida(and from every other SEC school, plus Miami, plus VT). So while Charlie and Corwin might between themselves have overrated this kid, it is extremely unlikely that all coaches are equally deluded.

He's a big-time recruit. A bigger recruit than MacDonald who everybody was so happy to land (if you take recruiting cohort as your standard, and not 5 minutes of video highlites).it's not a matter of whether he's good or not. we all know he's good. however, we've got very few spots left in this class. it's a matter of whether he should be taken over some of these other guys. i mean, floyd, sabino, an OL, a WR, and an RB will fill this class up to a brim. do we really want to take Brown as the WR over baldwin, walker, or butler? and if we take him at DB, who don't we take for the luxury of taking 4 DBs in a class? it's just a matter of numbers. i actually was hoping that brown would commit before slaughter did, because i like brown as more of a pure corner than slaughter. but once we got blanton and slaughter as corners, it just kinda seems like we don't have a great spot for brown.

[YoungIrish]

I definetly want Slaughter over Brown...kid hits like a semi truck..

[tedwick]

I definetly want Slaughter over Brown...kid hits like a semi truck..i liked slaughter at safety, and that would have allowed brown to come in as a CB. but we're taking slaughter and blanton at corner, so brown's position is full. (and don't give me the "brown's a WR too!". grump grump grump. : D )

[IrishCalves]

I like Slaughter just as much as Brown - its just that they're two different types. If you want a fast, play making type of man to man coverage corner, pick Jeremy. If you want a physical, press/zone coverage type of corner, pick Jamoris. I think it'd be nice to have both on the roster - gives your defense some options IMO.

[wyatt]

it's not a matter of whether he's good or not. we all know he's good. however, we've got very few spots left in this class. it's a matter of whether he should be taken over some of these other guys.

I can agree with that, DB being the only position on defense that we have recruited well at. But I think that some people have said that they don't think he's very good(not you), and I think that the quality of his offers belies that belief.

They are basing their judgements on the scattered video available- very slim evidence in my mind. First-rate coaches(Weis, Richt, Shannon, Tuberville Cockwad) who have watched entire games of tape, are by contrast sold on his ability.

As for Slaughter and Blanton both being CB's, I wager that one of those two will be a safety before his college career is over.(maybe Slaughter he seems like such a natural for the position)

[YoungIrish]

I think Blanton would make a good FS..

[Ricochet]

I like Slaughter just as much as Brown - its just that they're two different types. If you want a fast, play making type of man to man coverage corner, pick Jeremy. If you want a physical, press/zone coverage type of corner, pick Jamoris. I think it'd be nice to have both on the roster - gives your defense some options IMO.Your 100% correct but I think alot of the poster here are saying with Blanton and Slaughter already in the fold and with guys like Gary Gray, Raeshon McNeil and Darrin Walls in recent classes that are similar to Jeremy Brown that they would rather use the scholarship that he take elsewhere.

[Fishin'_Irish]

I can agree with that, DB being the only position on defense that we have recruited well at. But I think that some people have said that they don't think he's very good(not you), and I think that the quality of his offers belies that belief.

Are you talking about this year specifically, or the past few years? Either way, I don't really agree with that. McCarthy is as good as anyone, and Blanton and Slaughter are both 4 star guys who have cracked some top 100's.

[tedwick]

Are you talking about this year specifically, or the past few years? Either way, I don't really agree with that. McCarthy is as good as anyone, and Blanton and Slaughter are both 4 star guys who have cracked some top 100's.i think you do agree with that
/jedi mind tricks

but he's saying that we've recruited well in the backfield. you're saying that the guys we've got this year in the backfield are good. i think you're both saying the same thing.

[wyatt]

Are you talking about this year specifically, or the past few years? Either way, I don't really agree with that. McCarthy is as good as anyone, and Blanton and Slaughter are both 4 star guys who have cracked some top 100's.

Tedwick's right. You are misreading what I wrote. I think we have recruited very well at DB over the past few years(Walls, Sergio Brown(I think he's going to be great), McNeal, Gray, H. Smith, J Gaines, Gordon, plus the guys this year).

[IrishKnight1023]

Blanton and Slaughter will be physical jamming type CB's will Jeremy can and WILL give another look and is also a perfect fit for nickel CB. Weis and Corwin want him, does anybodies elses opinion matter? If we love Weis and Brown so much then let them do their job, I think they know what they're doing when recruiting the right plays for ND's system.

[scooper]

There are going to be receivers that our bigger jamming type CB's won't be suited to cover. We'll need someone with more quicks. A smaller jitterbug type. Yes, I know we have Gray, Walls, McNeal, etc... but two of them will be two years ahead of Brown. When they are gone, he could be seasoned and ready to go. Or, maybe he turns out better than one of the current guys anyway.

You guys can talk about room in this class, fit, need, etc., until you are blue in the face but the most important people in this decision obviously agree with me, knight, wyatt, et al.

[NDGirlzRock]

Guys.....this kid has offers from some of the top CB programs in the country. That speaks volumns! Plus, I've seen him play in the flesh. The kid has game. I see him on the field, contributing, and making big plays cause he has a nose for the ball. It may take a year or two, but trust me he will find the field and he will help us win an NC!

[marv81s]

If Weis and CB are willing to take him this year and make a spot for him, doesn't that count for something. Its fun and all to debate, but some of the people that work at the Gug think he is worth giving him a scholie this year

[tedwick]

just wondering... how do we know brown is still able to act on his offer? i mean, mitch mustain had a scholarship offer all through the year two years ago. he just wasn't able to act on it because his position was full. are we sure this is isn't the case here?

on another note... if we take brown, who do we drop? Floyd? Sabino? Robinson? Baldwin? Unnamed RB? Do we not ask Mo Crum back if he wants back?

[scooper]

just wondering... how do we know brown is still able to act on his offer? i mean, mitch mustain had a scholarship offer all through the year two years ago. he just wasn't able to act on it because his position was full. are we sure this is isn't the case here?

on another note... if we take brown, who do we drop? Floyd? Sabino? Robinson? Baldwin? Unnamed RB? Do we not ask Mo Crum back if he wants back?


Because they're letting him visit on his own dime this weekend and there have been no reports that his offer is no longer valid. He has an offer. And if he verbals, they'll take it. This isn't Florida. Nor should it ever be. If they were full and didn't want him, they would pull his offer.

If you can't act on an offer, you really don't have an offer.

[Fishin'_Irish]

Tedwick's right. You are misreading what I wrote. I think we have recruited very well at DB over the past few years(Walls, Sergio Brown(I think he's going to be great), McNeal, Gray, H. Smith, J Gaines, Gordon, plus the guys this year).

You're absolutely right. I read it as "haven't" for some reason. I need more sleep...

[rontdtarchala]

right he has an offer we need him/want him and he will be a major contributor to our d...I say jb come on down!!

[IrishKnight1023]

Everyone who says they WANT Jeremy to pull the trigger because they want him and not just because the staff does will get repped by me. NO FAKERS EITHER! I KNOW WHO YOU ARE!

[irishziggy]

Everyone who says they WANT Jeremy to pull the trigger because they want him and not just because the staff does will get repped by me. NO FAKERS EITHER! I KNOW WHO YOU ARE!

im with ya knight, been sayin it for awhile now too over on DD

[IrishKnight1023]

im with ya knight, been sayin it for awhile now too over on DD

---repped lol

[rontdtarchala]

I want him in south bend...I didn't like that game video but you simply can never judge a player by one game and NDGR knows her stuff so I will go with what she says also...

[IrishKnight1023]

I want him in south bend...I didn't like that game video but you simply can never judge a player by one game and NDGR knows her stuff so I will go with what she says also...

hmmm to negative for my taste and you relied on NDGR and not your own wanting. You ever see Fever Pitch when they have to dance for the tickets? Well this kind of the same thing haha

[irishziggy]

---repped lol


lol i think my rep just skyrocketed :D

[IrishKnight1023]

I'm going out for the day so I'll rep all that need to be repped when I get home.