'08 FL LB Etienne Sabino (Ohio State LOI)

[Svoboda]

Linebacker
Dr. Michael M. Krop High School (http://mkhs.dadeschools.net/) (Miami, FL)

Ht: 6-foot-3
Wt: 228 lbs
Forty: 4.6 secs
GPA: 2.99
SAT: 1180 on 1600 scale

Links of Interest: Rivals Profile (http://notredame.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=61452#ticker)

Combine:
Bench Max:
Bench Reps: 22
Squat Max:
Vertical: 30.6 in.
Shuttle: 4.2 secs.

Star Ratings
Rivals.com: ****
Scout.com: ****

Rankings & Accolades
Rivals 100 #76 Rivals #5 National Inside LB Rivals FL Top 100- #10
Scout 100 #62 Scout #6 National MLB

Statistics
2006-

Schools of Interest:
Auburn
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Georgia Tech
Miami
Notre Dame
North Carolina
Ohio State
Southern Cal
Tennessee

[IrishCalves]

With the free scout days 'til the fourth, I took the liberty of perusing his timeline. Nothing concrete, but he's guessing he'll make his decision some time mid-season.

[IrishKnight1023]

With the free scout days 'til the fourth, I took the liberty of perusing his timeline. Nothing concrete, but he's guessing he'll make his decision some time mid-season.

-----Yeah I read that in one of his Scout free articles saying he'd like to make a mid-year decision. I'd like to just wow him come his trip July 27th and end this madness. Just like EJ, I'd crap my pants if he committed on his visit.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

If ND keeps getting the recruits in July, his decision might come a little sooner. He must realize that he holds all the cards. Sometimes, you react whether you like it or not.

[rontdtarchala]

I would like to wrap up our biggest need positions and only have to wait for 2 or 3 5 stars

[untitledproject]

'Canes want this kid big time. I think if we can steal em, the Catholics vs Convicts rivalry will surface again.

[rontdtarchala]

as for me it never ended I don't care what they've been through....screw em

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Luv to meet them with some quality athletes on the field!

[fighting doug]

He's making an unofficial at the end of the month. I've got a good feeling about this one.

[rdrdreamer]

This young man would be a great addition to the Irish. He plays hard and has fantastic upside. There is alot of talk, rightfully so, about Hale and Filer, but I would be very happy to aqquire Etienne just the same.

Stephen Paskorzand Brian Smith were awfully good pick ups for the incoming class. Kerry Neal will also be a monster in our 3-4 defensive scheme. Harrison Smith has the ability to play a 'hybred' linebacking position too. More of a nickle type back...but one who is capable of putting a lick on someone.

The guys coming in (2007), coupled with the ones who have verbaled (2008) thus far...will make for and outstanding cast of linebackers for Corwin to mold. Anyone esle as excited as I am about our future on defense? :cool:

[IrishCalves]

I think I'm amped for some other reasons, but I agree with the sentiment nevertheless. With the DL picking up two absolute studs in Hunter and Johnson, and the three remaining DL commits being ideal candidates in their own right, I'm excited to see not only what kind of pressure these guys can apply against the run and the pass, but to see how much space guys like Sabino could have to operate with thanks to the DL recruits we've snagged.

I also like the fact that Sabino has played with his hand off the ground. I definitely like the athletic potential guys like John Ryan, Mo Richardson, Kerry Neal, and Darius Fleming possess. But there's going to be a learning curve for them, since they haven't had to stand up before in their careers - and if so only for a confusion/change of look. Whereas with Sabino? All he'd need to do is come on campus and learn the playbook, since he's a purer linebacker prospect than the others.

And considering he's going to enroll early, Sabino would definitely be ready come next fall. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

[IrishKnight1023]

He says we're recruiting him the hardest. What prospect that we're serious about DOESN'T say we're recruiting them harder then anybody else?

[rdrdreamer]

I think I'm amped for some other reasons, but I agree with the sentiment nevertheless. With the DL picking up two absolute studs in Hunter and Johnson, and the three remaining DL commits being ideal candidates in their own right, I'm excited to see not only what kind of pressure these guys can apply against the run and the pass, but to see how much space guys like Sabino could have to operate with thanks to the DL recruits we've snagged.

I also like the fact that Sabino has played with his hand off the ground. I definitely like the athletic potential guys like John Ryan, Mo Richardson, Kerry Neal, and Darius Fleming possess. But there's going to be a learning curve for them, since they haven't had to stand up before in their careers - and if so only for a confusion/change of look. Whereas with Sabino? All he'd need to do is come on campus and learn the playbook, since he's a purer linebacker prospect than the others.

And considering he's going to enroll early, Sabino would definitely be ready come next fall. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Well stated Calves. He does seem to posses the immediate ability to adjust to our new defensive system do to his current style of play. I like everything about Sabino. I'm pretty sure he will get a better understanding of what Coach Brown is selling, let's just hope that he's ready to buy.

Anyway, great observation on Sabino and his style of play...

[rdrdreamer]

He says we're recruiting him the hardest. What prospect that we're serious about DOESN'T say we're recruiting them harder then anybody else?

Yeah, your right about that IrishKnight. Just look and we will see that the majority of the top tier recruits list us as a program of interest...and most of them have us in their top five. Sure, we will not get all of them...but they are talking about us...for what ever reason.

[untitledproject]

I have a Miami friend that claims they aren't chasing him as hard. Possibly because they aren't anticipating landing him?

[rdrdreamer]

I have a Miami friend that claims they aren't chasing him as hard. Possibly because they aren't anticipating landing him?


I would like to think this UP. I really like this kid. Let's hope they (Miami) know something we don't, and are focusing on others they do hope to land?

[IrishKnight1023]

At least one of the major national recruiting analysts believes that ND is the team to beat for Sabino's services.

[tedwick]

JC shuberrt or whatever his name is on Rivals said he thinks we're the team to beat for him....i think after all the hale/sweat/brown/major hype died down, it's been consensus that sabino and filer are the guys we want. so this is nice to hear.

oh, and something to note: he's planning on doing summer school to graduate early. his courses will be english IV and spanish II. now, which school requires its incoming students to have 4 years of english and 2 years of a foreign language? oh yeah, it's notre dame. add a 1180 SAT on top of that.

i just came across that and got kind of excited. if it's just a coincidence, that's some kind of coincidence.

[IrishKnight1023]

i think after all the hale/sweat/brown/major hype died down, it's been consensus that sabino and filer are the guys we want. so this is nice to hear.

oh, and something to note: he's planning on doing summer school to graduate early. his courses will be english IV and spanish II. now, which school requires its incoming students to have 4 years of english and 2 years of a foreign language? oh yeah, it's notre dame. add a 1180 SAT on top of that.

i just came across that and got kind of excited. if it's just a coincidence, that's some kind of coincidence.

------At my HS you needed 4 years of english and 2 years of a foreign language just to graduate so I think he's just doing what is required HS wise.

[tedwick]

------At my HS you needed 4 years of english and 2 years of a foreign language just to graduate so I think he's just doing what is required HS wise.ah. i'm just easily excitable then. : D

[fighting doug]

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Latest show talks about Sabino and also has good info on all are targets. His guest was giving off bad vibes about Floyd and Butler? WTF

[Svoboda]

Middle linebacker Etienne Sabino and his mentor, Brett Goetz, last week took a flight from Miami to Atlanta, drove a rental car to visit the University of Georgia, then to Knoxville to visit Tennessee, then to Auburn, Ala., and back to Atlanta to visit Tech's campus and coaches.

All of these schools and others have offered scholarships to Sabino, who is in many ways what the Jackets are looking for, even if they have to look afar.

"Most kids are definitely making their decision based mostly on football," Sabino said. "I'm interested in [Tech's] academics. Everyone knows their reputation. I want a combination of both."

http://www.ajc.com/search/content/sports/gatech/stories/2007/06/13/0614techrecruit.html
Getting this kid on campus should be huge. I really think we can jump to the top when he visits and sees the academic side of Notre Dame up close.

[iloveirish_12]

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Latest show talks about Sabino and also has good info on all are targets. His guest was giving off bad vibes about Floyd and Butler? WTF

What do you mean?

[irishunclebill]

Profile Updated & Picture Added.

[irishunclebill]

Sabino is planning on visiting North Carolina on 7/20, then ND & OSU. It is not clear whether he is going to OSU before or after his ND visit. These three visits will be the last of his unofficial visits this summer as he will not be visiting USC this summer. He has said that USC will be his first Official Visit in the Fall and was recently quoted as saying he plans on making a decision in mid to late November. Where have we heard that before?;)

[untitledproject]

...planning on visiting North Carolina


..These are the sad words that you use to never have to fear.

[paddyman]

There is a premium article on scout that mentions Sabino will graduate early. I wonder if he would be enticed by an EE. Do we have any EE spots for this class?

[NDGirlzRock]

I think that we do have some EEs.

[paddyman]

..These are the sad words that you use to never have to fear.

Butch Davis recruited well at Miami. I understand that NC is not Miami but there is a crap ton of good football talent in NC that usually goes elsewhere. UNC has a lot to offer student athletes and I see Davis making a culture change there and getting more people to stay in state.

[paddyman]

I also read on scout that he only has a 3.0 GPA and scored a 1140 or close to it on the SAT. That is out of 2400 and not very good. How can he get into ND with that?

[scooper]

There is a premium article on scout that mentions Sabino will graduate early. I wonder if he would be enticed by an EE. Do we have any EE spots for this class?

You don't have to have EE spots open. They can just count normally with the rest of the class. Allen, Clausen and Clausen did not count against the prior class.

[paddyman]

You don't have to have EE spots open. They can just count normally with the rest of the class. Allen, Clausen and Clausen did not count against the prior class.

But as far as getting into school, does that not count as an early enrollment from a student standpoint?

[NDGirlzRock]

Damn I forgot that the SAT scale has gone up since I took it. Then my 1600 would just be average now adays!

[IrishCalves]

I also read on scout that he only has a 3.0 GPA and scored a 1140 or close to it on the SAT. That is out of 2400 and not very good. How can he get into ND with that?

If a kid has been offered, then its obvious that there's some reason why he could have gotten in. Admissions are really funky sometimes; its not so simple as GPA + Standardize Test Score = Admissions. Otherwise, colleges would be filled with test takers that don't focus on anything other than what goes on in the classroom.

Things like extra extracurriculars, community service (which I looked up is a graduation requirement for Sabino's school), teacher recommendations, all sorts of crazy things can play a hand. Even the high school's reputation plays a factor. Sometimes, a kid with a 3.4 from a lower income inner city school can be viewed on par with the kid with a 3.8 from the suburbs, who had access to the newest computer technologies, and personal instruction on how to handle the standardized tests. I mean this kid is taking 2 summer courses here, so its obvious the kid isn't afraid to do work in the classroom.

Point being, if he got an offer, there's got to be at least some part of his portfolio that admissions can work with to get him in.

[irishunclebill]

I also read on scout that he only has a 3.0 GPA and scored a 1140 or close to it on the SAT. That is out of 2400 and not very good. How can he get into ND with that?

The score is 1180, and nowhere on Scout does it say that it is on the 2400 scale. Almost every college is ignoring the writing part of the SAT that brought the scale up to 2400. I know this for a fact because I have a daughter who is applying to college right now, and we have visited and asked that question at over 15 colleges. An 1180 on the 2400 scale would most likely be 800 or under on the 1600 scale which would most likely be not enough for Sabino to qualify. So absent any documented proof to the contrary, I think it is safer to presume that Scout like most colleges used the 1180 as it relates to the 1600 scale because at the present time, it is the only scale that has any real meaning. I think it is also safe to assume that a kid like Sabino who is going to summer school at the height of a very exciting time in his life just so that he can graduate early is very unlikely to have scored below 800 on the SAT 1600 scale.

[tedwick]

note: a lot of the SATs reported still are "old" SATs. iirc, this is because the NCAA's qualification guidelines, which is why most of these athletes take the SATs in the first place, are still on the old scale.

a side note: you can still not take the writing section of the new SAT, iirc. most schools are still uncertain on what it measures, and don't really use it anyway.

[irishunclebill]

note: a lot of the SATs reported still are "old" SATs. iirc, this is because the NCAA's qualification guidelines, which is why most of these athletes take the SATs in the first place, are still on the old scale.

a side note: you can still not take the writing section of the new SAT, iirc. most schools are still uncertain on what it measures, and don't really use it anyway.

LOL- Brilliant minds think alike, and at the same time too.:)

[tedwick]

LOL- Brilliant minds think alike, and at the same time too.:)
http://www.mustangmods.com/data/10900/brilliant.jpg

[paddyman]

The score is 1180, and nowhere on Scout does it say that it is on the 2400 scale. Almost every college is ignoring the writing part of the SAT that brought the scale up to 2400. I know this for a fact because I have a daughter who is applying to college right now, and we have visited and asked that question at over 15 colleges. An 1180 on the 2400 scale would most likely be 800 or under on the 1600 scale which would most likely be not enough for Sabino to qualify. So absent any documented proof to the contrary, I think it is safer to presume that Scout like most colleges used the 1180 as it relates to the 1600 scale because at the present time, it is the only scale that has any real meaning. I think it is also safe to assume that a kid like Sabino who is going to summer school at the height of a very exciting time in his life just so that he can graduate early is very unlikely to have scored below 800 on the SAT 1600 scale.

Also no where does it say that it is not on the scale, so i dont think it safe to assume anything. I understand that he is taking summer courses, but it does not say what courses he is taking so it could be home ec, or phys ed...... Assuming things is a tough thing to make stick. I was just curious about his score, there are too many assumptions here. i will assume it is like most students since they changed it and it is on a 2,400 scale. Therefore i dont think that is very good and still wonder why he will get in if. Even 1180 out 1600 is not that good for an institution like ND.

[irishunclebill]

Also no where does it say that it is not on the scale, so i dont think it safe to assume anything. I understand that he is taking summer courses, but it does not say what courses he is taking so it could be home ec, or phys ed...... Assuming things is a tough thing to make stick. I was just curious about his score, there are too many assumptions here. i will assume it is like most students since they changed it and it is on a 2,400 scale. Therefore i dont think that is very good and still wonder why he will get in if. Even 1180 out 1600 is not that good for an institution like ND.

You assume what you want to assume, I already explained why I believe your assumption is wrong, so I will not bother to do that again. Assuming that he is taking home ec & phys. ed however is bordering on being insulting. For the record he is taking English & Spanish, the Spanish is part of the requirement for entry into ND. As for saying that 1180 out of 1600 is not good enough to get into ND, I suggest two things, don't be such a snob, and do some research into what the SAT scores have been for ND football players for the last 6 years before you make a comment like that.

[scooper]

But as far as getting into school, does that not count as an early enrollment from a student standpoint?

Yes, from a student standpoint is a different question. But the university really doesn't have slots for early enrollees. A kid is accepted or he isn't. I'm sure admissions doesn't want too many, but there are no "slots" for them.

[scooper]

You assume what you want to assume, I already explained why I believe your assumption is wrong, so I will not bother to do that again. Assuming that he is taking home ec & phys. ed however is bordering on being insulting. For the record he is taking English & Spanish, the Spanish is part of the requirement for entry into ND. As for saying that 1180 out of 1600 is not good enough to get into ND, I suggest two things, don't be such a snob, and do some research into what the SAT scores have been for ND football players for the last 6 years before you make a comment like that.

I was just getting ready to put up a very similar post. Thanks for saving me the time.

[paddyman]

I was just getting ready to put up a very similar post. Thanks for saving me the time.

Yeah i was really out of bounds on that post. thanks for setting me straight.
I am not assumming he is taking any classes and i will never belittle a high school student. The only assumption i made was that he scored 1180 out of 2400 like every other student in the country., which is not really an assumption. Anyway..... :)

[scooper]

Yeah i was really out of bounds on that post. thanks for setting me straight.
I am not assumming he is taking any classes and i will never belittle a high school student. The only assumption i made was that he scored 1180 out of 2400 like every other student in the country., which is not really an assumption. Anyway..... :)

Fair enough. Believe me, the new SAT situation has been confusing. But we're finding more and more that most reported scores are indeed out of 1600.

[rontdtarchala]

hey...bottom line...i just want him in gold and blue...he obviously qualified...he can come early or not I actually dont care just come to ND baby!!

[NDGirlzRock]

Man this kid has brains and ability!!! Well spoken, has his head on straight, and man can he play. Impressive!!! He has got to go ND!!! This kid is special. Rock-on-Irish!!!

[Specnatz]

I was under the impression that Notre Dame does not offer schollies until admissions makes sure that they can get in, so he would have already qualified and is smart enough to get into ND.

[Svoboda]

I was under the impression that Notre Dame does not offer schollies until admissions makes sure that they can get in, so he would have already qualified and is smart enough to get into ND.
And you'd be correct. I believe all prospective offers first go across the desk of Dan Saracino for a quick once over.

[paddyman]

And you'd be correct. I believe all prospective offers first go across the desk of Dan Saracino for a quick once over.

Very well. I hope its the case and good luck to him. I know we can certainly use his athletic talents.

[robdog_5]

Sabino was on power hour tonight.

Talked about talent in general as far as Florida goes. Talked about some bigtime players in Miami. Said he has been on the Varsity team for 4 years.

Said he has been surprised about the attention and never really thought about all this attention 5 monthes ago. Said he was just trying to get atleast one by his senior year.

quoted his stats from last season, ya uhh there impressive. Said when ND started recruiting him he was like wow that's bigtime. Said it was kind of like a dream. Said his first offer was from Duke and he was stoked. Said once he got one they kept coming. He's up to 47 offers now. Everybody is recruiting him as a LB and most schools are recruiting him at SLB or WLB.

Playing LB he thinks his best attribute is his instincts and "Nose for the Ball". Talked about Combines and how he has worked with Pass coverage, more Zone Defense in HS and thinks that is his weakness as 1 on 1 pass coverage.

Corwin is recruiting him and he said he likes him alot and says he is a "Peoples Person" and always is positive about everyone and never talks negative about any person.

He has visited Tenn, Auburn, NC, Miami, Flordia, Georgia, GT, and plans on visitng ND and has a great intrest in ND and finacially he didn't know if he could do it but now is. Some things he is looking for we he comes up is talking to the players and see how coaches are when there coaching. See the atmosphere, and kind of see how Armando Allen likes it.

Mentioned Distance is not a factor as long as he is comfortable and knows education will be great at ND. Said Corwin Brown told him he is versitile enough to play any of the 4 LB positions. Likes the 3-4 defense and thinks it's a good fit.

His timetable he is not sure about but thinks it will be probalby before November. Says he will take offical visits, and the final factors in choosing a school is coaches, if he feels comfortable, academics and football with a good balance of the two.

Said he is coming up to ND with his Mentor. Said recruiting has gotten tiresome but he turns his phone off when it comes to that.

Says he wants to enroll early and is on pace to graduate in December and has discussed that with ND and they have ok'd it. Will be up for 1 day and then go to OSU for 1 day.

That's the interview, at first was real short answers but opened up a bit and got alot more comfortabe

[irishunclebill]

Sabino was on power hour tonight.

Talked about talent in general as far as Florida goes. Talked about some bigtime players in Miami. Said he has been on the Varsity team for 4 years.

Said he has been surprised about the attention and never really thought about all this attention 5 monthes ago. Said he was just trying to get atleast one by his senior year.

quoted his stats from last season, ya uhh there impressive. Said when ND started recruiting him he was like wow that's bigtime. Said it was kind of like a dream. Said his first offer was from Duke and he was stoked. Said once he got one they kept coming. He's up to 47 offers now. Everybody is recruiting him as a LB and most schools are recruiting him at SLB or WLB.

Playing LB he thinks his best attribute is his instincts and "Nose for the Ball". Talked about Combines and how he has worked with Pass coverage, more Zone Defense in HS and thinks that is his weakness as 1 on 1 pass coverage.

Corwin is recruiting him and he said he likes him alot and says he is a "Peoples Person" and always is positive about everyone and never talks negative about any person.

He has visited Tenn, Auburn, NC, Miami, Flordia, Georgia, GT, and plans on visitng ND and has a great intrest in ND and finacially he didn't know if he could do it but now is. Some things he is looking for we he comes up is talking to the players and see how coaches are when there coaching. See the atmosphere, and kind of see how Armando Allen likes it.

Mentioned Distance is not a factor as long as he is comfortable and knows education will be great at ND. Said Corwin Brown told him he is versitile enough to play any of the 4 LB positions. Likes the 3-4 defense and thinks it's a good fit.

His timetable he is not sure about but thinks it will be probalby before November. Says he will take offical visits, and the final factors in choosing a school is coaches, if he feels comfortable, academics and football with a good balance of the two.

Said he is coming up to ND with his Mentor. Said recruiting has gotten tiresome but he turns his phone off when it comes to that.

Says he wants to enroll early and is on pace to graduate in December and has discussed that with ND and they have ok'd it. Will be up for 1 day and then go to OSU for 1 day.

That's the interview, at first was real short answers but opened up a bit and got alot more comfortabe

Great Summary rob, thanks for the update.

[rontdtarchala]

sounds like its a long road to get him

[IrishCalves]

sounds like its a long road to get him

Not THAT long of a road... we're talking a mid-season decision from Etienne. Plus he already likes many of the things about the Irish. You wanna talk long roads, try Baldwin.

[Ricochet]

It's mid-season decision as of now who knows maybe he get's wowed on his ND visit and it changes. You hear it all the time that these kids don't plan on committing anytime soon and certain visit to school seals it, you never know.

[rontdtarchala]

well lets hope for the best and see what shakes

[marv81s]

even if it would be a long road, he'd be well worth the wait and worth saving/making a spot for

[rontdtarchala]

you won't get any argument from me marv

[IrishCalves]

I noticed that Miami picked up their 3rd 4 star caliber linebacker recently, the latest addition being a guy by the name of Marcus Robinson (looks pretty good). I was wondering if we had any Miami sources/projections as to how many LB's they're going after this year, given the obvious implications with their involvement regarding Etienne.

I don't want to jump to any conclusions yet by saying, "Looks like Miami will be out of it now", but from the outside looking in I'd guess Shannon won't cry himself to sleep if Sabino bolts for a school out of state (i.e. North Carolina, Georgia Tech, Notre Dame, etc). 3 LBs in one year for a 4-3 alignment seems like they're just about set. Any further insight?

[untitledproject]

I noticed that Miami picked up their 3rd 4 star caliber linebacker recently, the latest addition being a guy by the name of Marcus Robinson (looks pretty good). I was wondering if we had any Miami sources/projections as to how many LB's they're going after this year, given the obvious implications with their involvement regarding Etienne.



After Robinson commited. Miami has 2 spots left for 3 guys. Supposedly it's "Katoa, Brown, and Spence." (quoting a die hard caner)

At one point he even mentioned
Miami isn't going as hard after Sabino as you think. We have bigger fish to fry (McCray, Brown, Robinson, Spence). Talk on the Miami boards is that he is going OOS. Which is fine with the way Barrow is reeling in these LB

[IrishCalves]

By no means a done deal, but hearing the biggest in state threat pulling their horse out of this race is very encouraging. Thanks untitled.

[untitledproject]

By no means a done deal, but hearing the biggest in state threat pulling their horse out of this race is very encouraging. Thanks untitled.

First of all, my retort on 'Bigger fish to fry' was... "WHAT!??"

Personally, I would never want to lose a stater like Sabino, but I can understand the rational if they can perennially draw in the LB's. I think with the deep pool of talent there is this year at LB, you couldn't really go wrong?

[Fishin'_Irish]

If they have bigger fish to fry, all the better for us, I say.

[HereComeTheIrish]

If they have bigger fish to fry, all the better for us, I say.

Wow...Bigger fish to fry??? That's either arrogance, stupidity...or both.

Come on home ES! And just like Hotel 6, we'll leave the light on for ya!

[untitledproject]

Wow...Bigger fish to fry??? That's either arrogance, stupidity...or both.

Come on home ES! And just like Hotel 6, we'll leave the light on for ya!

I kinda get the feeling their situation is more like ours with the Sweat's, and Beal's of the world? (not so much the shadyness)

"If you want to go somewhere else, be my guest"

[HereComeTheIrish]

I kinda get the feeling their situation is more like ours with the Sweat's, and Beal's of the world? (not so much the shadyness)

"If you want to go somewhere else, be my guest"

I could buy that...

Good observation.

[IrishCalves]

Lets not forget that Miami was mentioned by Arthur Brown as one of the three schools that will be in it 'til the end, along with OU and USC. The fish don't get much bigger than Arthur, and the comment he made didn't have a whole lot of gray area when it comes to being optimistic, so I don't think he's completely off his rocker for saying such a comment.

[Svoboda]

http://www.my.highschooljournalism.org/data/news_images/b2iht6gum7_Bido2.jpg

When Etienne Sabino moved from New York to Florida five years he knew only one thing about football.

“All I knew was that in football you hit,” Sabino said.

These days, he is being recruited for just that.

The Lightning’s 6-foot-3, 228 lb. linebacker has been gaining much attention this off-season after a stellar junior campaign of 131 tackles and eight sacks.

“Honestly it just flies by. I really don’t remember every tackle,” Sabino said.

Maybe his college offers can help refresh his memory. The Lightning’s star has received offers from some of the most prestigious schools around the country including North Carolina, Florida, Miami, Southern Cal, Ohio State, Notre Dame and LSU, but that doesn’t top the day it all started.

In late March, Sabino received offers from Notre Dame, Florida, Southern California and Tennessee all within hours of each other.

“I was in school and I got taken out early because I had to take my mom to the airport and on the way there I was just talking to all these coaches and my mom almost busting out in tears,” Sabino said. “It was shocking, very shocking.”

Sabino, who is ranked the No. 8 linebacker in the country according to Scout.com, hasn’t made a decision on a school, but is really impressed with North Carolina.

“I really like UNC. Coach John Blake gives you a real home feeling and Butch Davis, you would forget he is a head coach with the way he talks to you,” Sabino said. “I like Davis’ vision and they are building something good over there.”

Sabino should be ahead of most of the other recruits in his class. He intends to graduate early and be on a college campus in January.

“If I go to college in January, I will be a semester ahead of the incoming freshman so I will be ahead academically,” Sabino said. “Also I learn the defensive playbook so I am ahead of them in the classroom and on the field.”

Although his knowledge has grown, Sabino’s love for tackling is the same as it was five years ago.

“It’s just good to hit people. I love hitting.”

http://www.my.highschooljournalism.org/fl/miami/mkhs/article.cfm?eid=8720&aid=133021

Got to love the attitude.

[Svoboda]

Also, some GT folks think they are close (http://www.stingtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21557) to landing him.

[Fishin'_Irish]

I think he loves hitting.

[daytonirish]

I kind of like our chances with him, but will wait till after his visit to get to excited.

[untitledproject]

I hate the impact Davis has made, already. It's seriously irking me.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

He's gonna get hit by the Irish train while on campus. Be prepared Mr. Sabino. It's hard to shake the ND spell.

[irishunclebill]

Also, some GT folks think they are close (http://www.stingtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21557) to landing him.

Where did that come from all of a sudden. They sound like they have been in it for a long time.

[NDGirlzRock]

Give the kid some credit. $20 and a case of Killian's says that mom was cryin' cause of the offer from ND. It's not everyday that your son gets a potential full ride to ND. Yeah yeah it's the homer in me! All I have to say is I hope to someday read those words for my son!

[stonebreakerwasgod]

If that kid goes to GT, the world is over as we know it.

[marv81s]

I would love to know why the GT staff feels so confident that they are landing this lad

[irishunclebill]

I would love to know why the GT staff feels so confident that they are landing this lad


Very puzzling! He did visit GT in early June and had some nice things to say, but in an understated way, no Beal/Sweat antics. I have not seen or heard anything else about Sabino & GT anywhere else, and I can't see where he would be close to committing to anybody right now. He did go to GT with one of his teammates and there was the normal package deal type talk, but from what I can see the teammate does not even have a GT offer.

[marv81s]

I have to assume, and hope, that the person that stated that is just talking out his ass, and that the glowing remarks that Sabino has made about CB are enough to get this lad up to ND. I will love our chances even more after he gets up here for a visit. Once again, a visit will be crucial and will improve our chances greatly. A one on one meeting on ND's turf with Brown and throw in Weis later on, advantage ND.

[irishunclebill]

It appears that he is still definitely coming next Friday (7/27), but apparently only for a day.

[IrishKnight1023]

It appears that he is still definitely coming next Friday (7/27), but apparently only for a day.

--------I don't think a day is enough to make him commit to us. This one I feel won't be over until the end of Oct.

[Akron Irish]

--------I don't think a day is enough to make him commit to us. This one I feel won't be over until the end of Oct.

With that campus.....it would only take me 5 minutes

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Nice to see you Akron.

[NDGirlzRock]

Anyone have some tape on Sabino?

[daytonirish]

Wasn't Omar Hunter only on campus for one day and also visited his childhood favorite scUM only to commit to the IRISH!!! So why not with Sabino on his visit. Just a little Corwin magic and help from the players and he's all ours.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Head to the grotto, light a candle, and say some prayers!

[marv81s]

judging by prior statements from Sabino, it sounds like the rapport between him and Corwin Brown is there and is very good, so a day of walking around ND could be all it takes. I'm not saying he'll commit the day of his visit, but one day on an unofficial would/could be enough, and an official visit in the fall would be even better.

[irishunclebill]

Sabino has once again confirmed his visit schedule. He is at UNC this weekend with his team, he will visit ND next Friday, and OSU next Saturday.

[Svoboda]

I'd think Miami now has to be out (or at least lower on the list) for Sabino as they picked up their 4th linebacker commitment, all four star linebackers.

[Akron Irish]

I'd think Miami now has to be out (or at least lower on the list) for Sabino as they picked up their 4th linebacker commitment, all four star linebackers.

Thats a relief. Thats gotta help our chances. Now we just have to get rid of Butch Davis.....can someone send the tapes of when Butch was the Browns coach to him. That would scare him off.

[irishunclebill]

Don't expect a committment from Sabino when he visits next week. It appears he has been told a spot is being held for him no matter how long it takes to decide. This tells me two things, the ND staff holds Etienne Sabino in very high regard, and they are no longer interested in Marcus Forston.

[Svoboda]

That story by Rivals is exactly the kind of moronic journalism that causes problems when it comes to recruiting. I can't believe they'd even post a story like that.

[irishunclebill]

That story by Rivals is exactly the kind of moronic journalism that causes problems when it comes to recruiting. I can't believe they'd even post a story like that.

Well, you can tell who the author is, plus the tag line tells the whole story. I have to believe that if it is in fact true that CB would not be too happy with Sabino for spilling that little bean, especially to the Rivals bunny.

[Svoboda]

Sure Sabino probably should have been a bit more close lipped with that info, but the bunny is the adult and should have known better. Hell, that was his header, so that is what he was selling.

Now if Weis and Company were pushing anyone to get on the bus soon (Filer, Floyd, etc) they can point to Sabino and ask why he can wait, am I not as wanted as him, etc. Morons.

[irishunclebill]

Sure Sabino probably should have been a bit more close lipped with that info, but the bunny is the adult and should have known better. Hell, that was his header, so that is what he was selling.

Now if Weis and Company were pushing anyone to get on the bus soon (Filer, Floyd, etc) they can point to Sabino and ask why he can wait, am I not as wanted as him, etc. Morons.


and the moral of that story is that an Irish recruiting site should never have anyone but real Notre Dame fans in positions of responsibility.

[Svoboda]

and the moral of that story is that an Irish recruiting site should never have anyone but real Notre Dame fans in positions of responsibility.
And truer words have never been spoken.

[ND Fanatic]

Kind of on a side note, but how many of our remaining spots are really "open"? It seems like everyone left on our board is having a spot held for them, or is that all a crock of s*#t. Are the names that we all are throwing around about the only guys we can expect ?

BTW the above posts are by SVO and IUB are the absolute truth.

[irishunclebill]

Kind of on a side note, but how many of our remaining spots are really "open"? It seems like everyone left on our board is having a spot held for them, or is that all a crock of s*#t. Are the names that we all are throwing around about the only guys we can expect ?

BTW the above posts are by SVO and IUB are the absolute truth.

I'm hearing more and more that 24 is the magic number, and that the seven2008 5th year eligibles and Bemenderfer will fight it out for the last 2 available slots. If 24 is the number, I guess it is conceivable, depending on the Jeremy Brown situation, that the only real open spot left at this point may be the #24 wildcard.

[GhostSpirit]

Miami has four four star prospects, but I don't think that will affect Sabino in terms of being scared off. At least I hope not. What happens if Filer commits on his visit this weekend. That would give us four linebackers (A Mac, Flemming, Poz, Filer). That would mean that he would put us lower on the list as well. I don't think Miami will get him, but it won't be because of depth.

[IrishCalves]

Miami has four four star prospects, but I don't think that will affect Sabino in terms of being scared off. At least I hope not. What happens if Filer commits on his visit this weekend. That would give us four linebackers (A Mac, Flemming, Poz, Filer). That would mean that he would put us lower on the list as well. I don't think Miami will get him, but it won't be because of depth.

I think it will be depth, but because of different reasons. Etienne won't be "scarred off"; UM's interest in him will have cooled off. Remember, LB isn't as big a deal for their scheme. They have 3 starting positions to fill every year, whereas ND has 4. With 3 starting jobs to feed, and 4 LB's in the fold already, I think UM's depth causes them to cool their jets on Etienne, and swing for the fences on a full fledged 5 star guy like Arthur Brown, who has said they'll remain in it 'til the end.

[paddyman]

I think it will be depth, but because of different reasons. Etienne won't be "scarred off"; UM's interest in him will have cooled off. Remember, LB isn't as big a deal for their scheme. They have 3 starting positions to fill every year, whereas ND has 4. With 3 starting jobs to feed, and 4 LB's in the fold already, I think UM's depth causes them to cool their jets on Etienne, and swing for the fences on a full fledged 5 star guy like Arthur Brown, who has said they'll remain in it 'til the end.

I agree, we need at least 10 LBs on the roster maybe up to 12. It will be great to rotate out LBs and keep everyone fresh all season long. If we get 5 this year, that will be awesome. Especially if Mo Crum and Vernaglia are not awarded 5th years.

[scooper]

I agree, we need at least 10 LBs on the roster maybe up to 12. It will be great to rotate out LBs and keep everyone fresh all season long. If we get 5 this year, that will be awesome. Especially if Mo Crum and Vernaglia are not awarded 5th years.


Mo crum will be and I'm not sure why anybody wouldn't want him to. Young highly ranked recruits are great, but at some point, you need some experience. Crum has actually been one of the few bright spots on the defense. Is he elite? No. But neither will be any 18 year old.

[paddyman]

Mo crum will be and I'm not sure why anybody wouldn't want him to. Young highly ranked recruits are great, but at some point, you need some experience. Crum has actually been one of the few bright spots on the defense. Is he elite? No. But neither will be any 18 year old.

Yeah, I hope that Crum returns completely, just dont know what CW will do. Keep Crum or take a 5 star. I dont really see any other 5th years getting awarded. Interesting topic of discussion.

[scooper]

Yeah, I hope that Crum returns completely, just dont know what CW will do. Keep Crum or take a 5 star. I dont really see any other 5th years getting awarded. Interesting topic of discussion.


It is.

One thing to consider is the next class. At first, Charlie said he was only going to take around 20 this year. That was before the perfect storm hit and blue chippers started flooding in. Now he may have to rethink that. Would it be wise to put the brakes on to save something for the 09 recruiting cycle?

For the 08 season, the question with Crum and Lambert becomes what helps us now? Look at the schedule. This will be a talented, more experienced team in 08 with the schedule set up for a nice little run. Sure another 5 star may help in 2010 or 2011. But will that extra leadership and experience be more beneficial to a possible title run in the short term? If it's a guy like Crum, who has some athletic talent, I tend to believe so, yes.

The only thing that might change this is if Crum or Lambert plays lights out this season and helps their immediate draft stock. Then the question may be answered for CW.

If that is the case, maybe a guy like Justin Brown may be able to earn a slot. After this season, the only DE's with any experience returning will be Wade and Mullen. I'd hope in that case, a combination of Hand/Williams/Newman/Hunter can handle the nose so Kuntz can slide out to DE where he is more physically suited anyway....but that's a whole other topic for the football forum.

[paddyman]

It is.

One thing to consider is the next class. At first, Charlie said he was only going to take around 20 this year. That was before the perfect storm hit and blue chippers started flooding in. Now he may have to rethink that. Would it be wise to put the brakes on to save something for the 09 recruiting cycle?

For the 08 season, the question with Crum and Lambert becomes what helps us now? Look at the schedule. This will be a talented, more experienced team in 08 with the schedule set up for a nice little run. Sure another 5 star may help in 2010 or 2011. But will that extra leadership and experience be more beneficial to a possible title run in the short term? If it's a guy like Crum, who has some athletic talent, I tend to believe so, yes.

The only thing that might change this is if Crum or Lambert plays lights out this season and helps their immediate draft stock. Then the question may be answered for CW.

If that is the case, maybe a guy like Justin Brown may be able to earn a slot. After this season, the only DE's with any experience returning will be Wade and Mullen. I'd hope in that case, a combination of Hand/Williams/Newman/Hunter can handle the nose so Kuntz can slide out to DE where he is more physically suited anyway....but that's a whole other topic for the football forum.

Geez scooper, i ask one question and get 10 additional topics! :)

[fighting doug]

I don't see CW turning down an offer from Baldwin, Fortson or Floyd to keep Crum. I like Crum and also think leadership is very important but you can't pass up 4 years of elite talent.

[scooper]

I don't see CW turning down an offer from Baldwin, Fortson or Floyd to keep Crum. I like Crum and also think leadership is very important but you can't pass up 4 years of elite talent.

You do if it helps you win a national championship that year-which freshmen rarely do.

[fighting doug]

I think are chances of an NC are in 2 to 3 years with the recruits from this class.

[Fishin'_Irish]

If things go well, I wouldn't say next year is out of the realm of possibility.

[scooper]

I think are chances of an NC are in 2 to 3 years with the recruits from this class.I'm in now way saying anything is a given, nor will it be easy. But take a look at the 08 schedule. Then look at how many seniors USC and Michigan will be trotting out in 07. At worse, 08 should be another BCS game year. Crum's a good linebacker. These guys will be freshmen.

Don't think high rankings always mean ready to play immediately at the next level.

[Fishin'_Irish]

Clifford Jefferson.

[scooper]

Clifford Jefferson.

Sorry. No such name in my database. Does not compute. Do you smell smoke?

[HereComeTheIrish]

Sorry. No such name in my database. Does not compute. Do you smell smoke?

I believe I found the culprit...

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/GAN/AUD-024~Nifty-Fifties-Toast-Posters.jpg

[scooper]

Yeah, that's him.

[fighting doug]

You gotta take those risks sometimes, Either way it will be a positive. We'll have Crum for another year or get a top notch recruit. I believe CW will make the right decision.

[IrishKnight1023]

You gotta take those risks sometimes, Either way it will be a positive. We'll have Crum for another year or get a top notch recruit. I believe CW will make the right decision.

---Well I don't think Charlie agrees with you, and you'll see that when Crum comes back for a 5th year. And to make it worse Lambert our #1 CB this year could possibly come back for a 5th year! MAYBE EVEN WORSE THAN THAT is if Justin Brown steps up and shows something this year he will certainly come back because upperclassman DL are non existing on our team. You're getting to caught up in recruiting, recruiting battles don't win you national championships, but the players do and you don't pass up a guy who's been starting since he was a (RS) Fr. on your team for a guy with "Potential" in Baldwin. There are no rebuilding years to Weis and neither for ND nation as well...well except maybe this year...but I'll still get pissed off if we lose more than 4 games.

[robdog_5]

I agree with Crum and Lambert but not JBrown, they will have plenty of bodies to put in there that will be able to compete with JB he may be able to start this year but I don't see him being so vaulable that he needs to get a fifth year.

[irishunclebill]

The number that is being seriously tossed around is 24. At 24, only 2 guys come back anyway, unless there are more transfers between now and Sept, 2008.

[Ricochet]

The number that is being seriously tossed around is 24. At 24, only 2 guys come back anyway, unless there are more transfers between now and Sept, 2008.I for one think there will be some more transfers, as much as some of these kids might love ND like Frazer they will want to move on to see playing time.

[NDGirlzRock]

I for one think there will be some more transfers, as much as some of these kids might love ND like Frazer they will want to move on to see playing time.

Who do you have in mind?

[stonebreakerwasgod]

The slow white guys.

[fighting doug]

sweet

[NDGirlzRock]

The slow white guys.

Well our last commit is a fast white guy so that theory maybe flawed Stoney! By the way what the hell are you doing on here blogging and not makin' sweet Stoney love to the missus?

[mlcspinner]

Not to worry, dear...

Stoney has everything under control...

http://www.oneminuteapology.com/images/oma_r2_c3.jpg

60 seconds of lovin'...

60 seconds of apologizing...

60 second to get back to the keyboard...

All is well!

;)

I don't think Stoney can last that long 60 seconds is pushing it :D

[Svoboda]

C'mon folks... say on topic. Take off topic things to the Shamrock pub, not recruiting profiles.

[fighting doug]

If Filer commits, Sabino could get second thoughts. What's the chances we could reel both of them in? Would we need another LB if we get Filer?

[Svoboda]

I believe the staff want both of them in this class.

[fighting doug]

If that happened would they put Sabino at OLB due to Mcdonald and Filer at MLB or would he compete with either one?

[Svoboda]

I think they line them up and see who wins out, just like Southern Cal does.

[IrishCalves]

Will Compton did some form of interview with rivals, where some of his info was tacked up on the wire. He revealed the staff's plans for 5 LBs. Hence, Filer and Sabino seem like the two most likely candidates to fill out #'s 4 and 5.

Etienne Sabino has said in his interviews that ND would like him to play OLB at the moment, but pretty much all of the coaching staffs have said he could play anywhere in their respective defenses. Hence, Svoboda says it will probably end up being a Southern Cal approach to where Sabino and others would stick.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I agree, I think we need 5, and we should get five. The sooner we have top talent on the field, the better. Then it's all about replacement. Filer, Sabino, and even Floyd would be the biggest components to getting ND back on track.

[fighting doug]

I've never been so excited about recruiting, Filer this weekend and Sabino next weekend, and their both ND leans, holy cow.

[scooper]

And before anybody starts, let's not speculate on who may eventually transfer. That's not fair to anybody, and that's how ugly rumors start.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

No doubt. Hopefully, it is kept to an absolute minimum. They are all valuable and loved members of the Irish team and community.

[daytonirish]

I don't think Filer commiting is going to scare Sabino away. All the schools he is considering are going to have talented players at his position. Besides you can always rotate your defensive players during a game to keep them fresh and to throw off your opponent. Each player brings something different to the table and thatwill only help Notre Dame.

[IrishKnight1023]

I think Frazer will transfer. You heard it hear first.

[NDGirlzRock]

FWIW I was lurking on the bluckeye site and some yutz said that Sabino was a Miami lock....another stated that he was going to verbal to UNC. Man are they ever delusional over there. Funny too, they think that they might have a shot with Jeremy Brown too! Wake up and quit believing all of your own hype. I swear them guys are 8 steps behind everyone else in the recruiting world. Almost as bad as the skunkbears.

[IrishCalves]

FWIW I was lurking on the bluckeye site and some yutz said that Sabino was a Miami lock....another stated that he was going to verbal to UNC. Man are they ever delusional over there. Funny too, they think that they might have a shot with Jeremy Brown too! Wake up and quit believing all of your own hype. I swear them guys are 8 steps behind everyone else in the recruiting world. Almost as bad as the skunkbears.

Depends on which board. If its the ones associated with rivals and scout, those are really, really bad IMO - lots of delusionals. If you're talking about BuckeyePlanet, that one is actually very good. Its how I stumbled across an early scoop on Garrett Goebel (and the answer is no, I'm not say I know where he's going to go - I'm talking about how I knew Garrett had lopped off ND before most found out).

They don't even have Sabino in their main recruiting forum right now with the rest of the prime Buckeye candidates, because they aren't convinced of how serious he is about them - and its not for lack of monitoring. If you want to lurk for legitimate info, try them for a spin, see how you like 'em. Certainly better than the Buckeye rivals board :rolleyes:.

[NDGirlzRock]

It was the Scout site! I just popped in for laughs. I find it hilarious actually. It almost sounds like some of them are getting as desparate the skunkbears. I'm sure the bluckeyes will do well with recruiting, I just don't think that it will be as good as previous years. No matter what...I'm of the firm belief that Sabino is ours to loose. When it all comes down to it I think that its us and UNC. Hopefully with us on top cause of downtown Corwin Brown.

[marv81s]

miami lock? I don't know about that anymore, I think Miami is about done with LBs for their class. I am somewhat concerned about North Carolina. UNC and GT are probably ND's main competitors for Sabino, so don't dismiss the Tarheels, not with Davis running their show now. They have good facilities and a very good academic program there.

[rontdtarchala]

yeah I've been there many times (lived in NC for 20 years) they have a good thing going and BD will do some good things there...

[mikejND]

I agree Calves, Buckeyeplanet has better info than the other related buckeye sites.

[rontdtarchala]

I never go on enemy sites...yes they are my enemy...except when they beat the skunkbears....and thats only cause there cannot be a tie...

[YoungIrish]

I try to look up michigan, ohio state, FSU, USC, and UF's boards ateast once a day...sometimes they have no clue what is going on...other times they provide good info...I cant stand when there always bashing Charlie or the team...really no one is giving ND very much respect..would love to change that in a few years

[rontdtarchala]

want it changed now...but...no matter what we do it will never be good enough...example: our opponent makes a good play...the announcer says how great a play it was...we do the same thing its how the luck of the irish came through again...makes me want to pop their head like a zit...

[YoungIrish]

Is Sabino staying the night in South Bend...when does he get here...man I wish he would just cancel his OSU trip Sat. and stay longer at ND...just have to see...

[rontdtarchala]

I will second that but then as per the usual I want our verbs to be very sure so they stick come loi day

[NDGirlzRock]

Is Sabino staying the night in South Bend...when does he get here...man I wish he would just cancel his OSU trip Sat. and stay longer at ND...just have to see...

Only supposed to be one day at ND, bluckeyes, and skunkbears I think.

[IrishCalves]

Only supposed to be one day at ND, bluckeyes, and skunkbears I think.

Sabino didn't mention anything about Michigan when he did the interview with Mike Frank. Just one day a piece for ND and OSU. If he's visiting UM, that's new news to me.

[rontdtarchala]

no I heard he was going to ND, bucknots, and then back to ND.........psych!!

[marv81s]

he's only visiting ND and osu, you had it right Calves

[rontdtarchala]

it would definitely be nice to beat out the bucks again....

[IrishCalves]

it would definitely be nice to beat out the bucks again....

It would hardly be beating out the Buckeyes. They're in this because of their LB reputation - not much more than that - and still have a lot of work to do if they're serious.

If anything, we should view this instance as a chance to extract some vengeance from Butch Davis at UNC (Greg Little, anyone?).

[NDisNCin2010]

especially since G Little is gonna end up at LB, not WR, at UNC anyway!
Damn that Prister! ill got to the grave feeling he cost us Little with his BIG MOUTH!

[irishziggy]

It would hardly be beating out the Buckeyes. They're in this because of their LB reputation - not much more than that - and still have a lot of work to do if they're serious.

If anything, we should view this instance as a chance to extract some vengeance from Butch Davis at UNC (Greg Little, anyone?).

Calves, you took the words right outa my mouth. I think it's a three school dance with us, UNC, & Miami. Butch Davis is going to get some guys out of FL from now on, lets hope Sabino isnt one of them. And Randy Shannon's trying to make the "U" a perennial powerhouse once again. Recently taking names off the back of the jerseys to build the TEAM concept.

I still like our chances with Etienne, but unless he's knocked head over heels this week, his recruitment still has a way to go.

[YoungIrish]

Greg who??....we dont need him...rather give his scholly opportunity to Sabino..Miami is gonna be tough in the future...and UF is gonna suffer b/c now all three FL schools are getting the recruits...UF isnt stacking up the 5 stars this year with Miami and Free Shoes U recruiting good..

[NDGirlzRock]

My bad about the skunkbear thing. Thought that I read three names. Honestly, I don't see the Cans having much pull with Sabino anymore, seeing as they already have 4 or 5 LB commits. Eventhough we have the same #. Our D needs more LBs. I have a great feeling about him.

[IrishCalves]

My bad about the skunkbear thing. Thought that I read three names. Honestly, I don't see the Cans having much pull with Sabino anymore, seeing as they already have 4 or 5 LB commits. Eventhough we have the same #. Our D needs more LBs. I have a great feeling about him.

You've got a good read on Miami's involvement with Sabino.

I chose to look at it this way:

Actions here speak louder than words. Forston talked the talk about tripping to South Bend some time, but in the end he's the one who verballed to UM, while Etienne will be in town tomorrow. If he were that sold on "The U", Shannon never would have let it get to the point where he left the state of Florida.

[rontdtarchala]

when did forston verb

[IrishCalves]

Did so today. Go check his thread out for more details (its already been moved).

[rontdtarchala]

my bad I just got on and started with the first thread....man I gotta get some sleep...I'm slippin

[IrishKnight1023]

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=rivals-142344&prov=rivals&type=story_recruiting

"I speak to coach Brown almost every day," he said. "Me and him are real close now; we talk about other things, not just football."

[NDGirlzRock]

I think that this guy is the topper to the defensive side of this class. I don't think that anyone could honestly come close to the talent of this defensive class! I just get a really good feeling about him. Listening to him talk about Corwin and how he views life. This kid screams Notre Dame football. Somewhere I think that his visit has made him realize it. I hope his commit comes soon!

[YoungIrish]

On power hour the other week with him on as a guest...he just seemed so confortable talking about Notre Dame and Coach Brown...I think Coach Brown has pin pointed him from the beginning and will be able to close the deal...Will that deal be closed on this visit...I have no idea but it just seems like he is wanting to take his officials...

[YoungIrish]

When does Sabino fly back to Miami or did he leave to go back yesterday???...Anyone have any news on the visit to ND..OSU...If he didnt go back home yesterday did he stay at the Cave Motel...if so then mark him down for a commitment...seems like everyone commits shorlty after leaving that house...

[rontdtarchala]

lets hope cave did his thing and he commits like.....monday

[IrishCalves]

When does Sabino fly back to Miami or did he leave to go back yesterday???...Anyone have any news on the visit to ND..OSU...If he didnt go back home yesterday did he stay at the Cave Motel...if so then mark him down for a commitment...seems like everyone commits shorlty after leaving that house...

Let's keep in mind that there's never been a case when a recruit stayed at the Cave motel, only to visit hostile territory the next day (OSU). That is the case with Etienne.

If I were a recruit, I for one would be uncomfortable accepting a place to stay for the night with a committed recruit if I didn't already know I'd end up as their teammate in college. So, with the visit to Columbus... its pretty easy to put 2 and 2 together.

Hate to rain on that parade there, but I don't think Braxston does a whole lot of "magic" himself. These kids know full well that they were going to pledge before they took up the offer to stay the night in "the Cave", or whatever you want to call it. Newman, Fleming, and any other '08 class members that stayed with him... the writing was on the wall long before they had their sleep over. Not quite the case with Etienne, so keeping our poise might be best in this instance.

[SpanishElite]

I agree Calves. I really dont think that the possible ND commits are persuaded either way by staying with Cave or not. I think they have already, or close to making their decision and its just a similar face. There is no way a recruit would commit based on acouple nights with a fellow prospect.

[daytonirish]

On BuckeyePlanet there saying Sabino enjoyed his visit alot and may be setting up an official visit. Hopefully we will here more from him real soon about how things are going. Napoleanbuck seeems to think this info is logit so we should believe what is being said. Napoleanbuck is pretty reliable with his info from what I have witnessed from him in the past. Calves your thoughts would be appriciated. thanks.

[The Army Awakens]

The way I see it there are only two scenarios... Sabino coming back thru South Bend or really enjoyed his OSU visit then... It will be a fight till October...

On campus guys think he's ours but Bucknuts think he will schedule an official visit with them... I don't know the info from them should have been more definitive entailing what game he would like to attend that corresponds with his schedule... He would already know probably when he can fit official visits in... I've heard plenty of players say they would like to attend x game when trying to get in with officials... Hopefully somebody is going to talk to him and public knowledge by Monday... Its been kinda quiet on what actually happened on the visit... No cart path sightings or anything... Something went down and I really want to know what it is...

[irishziggy]

The way I see it there are only two scenarios... Sabino coming back thru South Bend or really enjoyed his OSU visit then... It will be a fight till October...

On campus guys think he's ours but Bucknuts think he will schedule an official visit with them... I don't know the info from them should have been more definitive entailing what game he would like to attend that corresponds with his schedule... He would already know probably when he can fit official visits in... I've heard plenty of players say they would like to attend x game when trying to get in with officials... Hopefully somebody is going to talk to him and public knowledge by Monday... Its been kinda quiet on what actually happened on the visit... No cart path sightings or anything... Something went down and I really want to know what it is...

the way i see it is someone was stirring up the BS once again with no clue.

[YoungIrish]

We need an official update with him...I would love to get this guy...just seems like a perfect OLB with his speed...I wouldnt beleive any buckeye...there all delusional...I mean they got some great posters...but the majority I run into just dont get it..

[IrishCalves]

On BuckeyePlanet there saying Sabino enjoyed his visit alot and may be setting up an official visit. Hopefully we will here more from him real soon about how things are going. Napoleanbuck seeems to think this info is logit so we should believe what is being said. Napoleanbuck is pretty reliable with his info from what I have witnessed from him in the past. Calves your thoughts would be appriciated. thanks.

Here's the quote from BP that stands out for me, and I think it sums it up. Mind you, the bolded text wasn't me - 'twas their work:


Originally Posted by LordJeffBuck:
Bucknuts - Bill Kurelic - 07/28/07

Sabino discusses his visit to Ohio State this weekend, which he enjoyed. He might return for an official visit.

AKA, he liked it there, but wasn't gushing. Otherwise, you would have read a more enthusiastic summary, and Sabino's thread would have been moved back into the main Buckeye forum, from it's current home in the national forum.

Sounds pretty vanilla/run of the mill to me. If Sabino won't ensure a repeat visit, then they probably still have work to do. I'm not gettin' ants in my pants over OSU's involvement yet.

[marv81s]

Even if he does set up an official visit to osu, I still think that this is a 2 horse race between ND and North Carolina.

What high school kid, especially a highly rated LB prospect, wouldn't be a little interested in osu. Better yet, what college football fan wouldn't want to see a game at the horseshoe. As much as I dislike osu, I would still love to see a game there as a fan of college football.

[YoungIrish]

I hate OSU..maybe b/c its b/c I live in Ohio...and well 80% of OSU fans are just bandwagon fans...Everyone I went to school with were just gushing on the OSU football team this year b/c they were winning every game...When I met an OSU fan I would ask them to name 5 guys on the team..easy right...well probably 7 or 8 out of 10 could not do it..My only fear is when ND starts racking up the wins and Jimmy leads us to the championship we to will experience the "bandwagon" fan...YOu can see Im a little bitter about it..Pick a team...learn your players..and root for them when they win or lose..I had to sit and watch ND get shut out by Michigan and FSU during Ty's days...But seeing how OSU has Youngstown St., Kent St., Akron, and Ty's Washington on the schedule..probably not going to be to many bad Sat. for the bucks...pathetic...what prime time player would choose to play that schedule..with none of those games on national tv...when you can play at ND against some of the best on NBC...makes me wonder

[napoleonbuck]

Well Washington was scheduled back when they were actually good. It's hard to predict how god teams will be almost ten years down the line.

Our schedule should be among the best in years down the line, with USC, Miami, Virginia Tech, and others scheduled for home and homes.

This year is basically an outsider for Ohio State when it comes to the schedule.

I'm also surprised you're worried about Notre Dame picking up bandwagon fans. Notre Dame has been famous for the inordinate number of bandwagon fans that you have(though I doubt any of them post on this board), even to the point that Notre Dame fans have been given their own name.

http://football.about.com/cs/football101/g/gl_subwayalumni.htm

[Akron Irish]

Well Washington was scheduled back when they were actually good. It's hard to predict how god teams will be almost ten years down the line.

Our schedule should be among the best in years down the line, with USC, Miami, Virginia Tech, and others scheduled for home and homes.

This year is basically an outsider for Ohio State when it comes to the schedule.

I'm also surprised you're worried about Notre Dame picking up bandwagon fans. Notre Dame has been famous for the inordinate number of bandwagon fans that you have(though I doubt any of them post on this board), even to the point that Notre Dame fans have been given their own name.

http://football.about.com/cs/football101/g/gl_subwayalumni.htm


ND thrives on the subway alum. It has to when its only a tenth of what OSU/Mich are. But the ones that annoy me are the ones that only cheer during the good years. I was still rocking my ND attire and rooting for them on the down years.

[Akron Irish]

I hate OSU..maybe b/c its b/c I live in Ohio...and well 80% of OSU fans are just bandwagon fans...Everyone I went to school with were just gushing on the OSU football team this year b/c they were winning every game...When I met an OSU fan I would ask them to name 5 guys on the team..easy right...well probably 7 or 8 out of 10 could not do it..My only fear is when ND starts racking up the wins and Jimmy leads us to the championship we to will experience the "bandwagon" fan...YOu can see Im a little bitter about it..Pick a team...learn your players..and root for them when they win or lose..I had to sit and watch ND get shut out by Michigan and FSU during Ty's days...But seeing how OSU has Youngstown St., Kent St., Akron, and Ty's Washington on the schedule..probably not going to be to many bad Sat. for the bucks...pathetic...what prime time player would choose to play that schedule..with none of those games on national tv...when you can play at ND against some of the best on NBC...makes me wonder

I'm predicting Akron pulls out the shocker. OSU is afraid to come play in the Rubber Bowl (Akron stadium)!! Fear the Roo

[daytonirish]

Youngirish have to agree about buckeye fans. The people at work and my friends can't understand why i won't cheer for Ohio State if they're not playing N.D. I've even had some of them buy me Ohio State shirts to wear. They do make good gifts and they save me money when I give them to someone else for a birthday or christmas gift. I was born into a N.D. family and will die in a N.D. family what part of that they don't understand I can't explain.

[Akron Irish]

Sorry for the off topic. Sabino looks like a good one!

[MirageSmack]

I never got the "subway alumni" issue, and why rival fans use the term in disdain. I would think over half the fans for ANY school never went there. I guess every school has "subway alums"!

[napoleonbuck]

There's nothing wrong with it, but I just found him being worried about Notre Dame picking up bandwagon fans when Notre Dame is probably the most famous college program when it comes to having bandwagon fans a little wierd.

I'm a subway alum of Ohio State. I was accepted to Ohio State, but it wasn't what was best for me academically. I'd be pretty freaking stupid if I picked my college based on what football team I liked.

[tedwick]

by the way. bandwagon fans != subway alums. bandwagon fans are guys that root for a team when they're up, and don't when they're down. there are a lot of Miami bandwagons all over, same with SC. i'm in michigan, and there are a lot of UM bandwagons.

however, subway alums are die. f'in. hard. they just didn't go to the school. maybe it's just because i live in michigan, but i really don't know of many bandwagon ND fans. everyone i know that roots for nd roots for ND.

[irishdan123084]

i heard on espn that sabino said he was announcing at 6pm today? you think its true?

[notredomer23]

did you hear it on the message board? if so its not true(most likely)

[YoungIrish]

Hmm..I thought he was already back in Miami...It would be great news though if he did commit..but you would have thought someone else would have broken the news on Rivals or Scout...

[notredomer23]

Hmm..I thought he was already back in Miami...It would be great news though if he did commit..but you would have thought someone else would have broken the news on Rivals or Scout...

dont worry even if he did commit its not true, anything on espn is a lie.

[IrishKnight1023]

The only message board rumor I want to know is if Tom Beaver predicts Sabino is a UM "lock" because then I'll be confident in an upcoming committment.

[NDGirlzRock]

FWIW I couldn't find any mention over on ESPN about Sabino announcing today! But that doesn't surprise me either.

[MirageSmack]

The only message board rumor I want to know is if Tom Beaver predicts Sabino is a UM "lock" because then I'll be confident in an upcoming committment.

True that. That dude is a human victory cigar for ND.

[YoungIrish]

It was on the ND ESPN message board...but usually people on that board dont know whats really going on..

[irishunclebill]

There is nothing to support the rumor of any impending Sabino announcement.

[marv81s]

I suggest that people get patient with Mr. Sabino

I would be shocked if he gives a verbal to anyone before the middle of October, beginning of November at the latest. I believe he'll take his officials before deciding. Till I hear otherwise I will continue to think that this is a NC vs ND battle for him with us coming out on top.

[KamaraPolice]

He was told he had a spot no matter what, so I can't envision him speeding the process up, what would be the point?

[irishunclebill]

He was told he had a spot no matter what, so I can't envision him speeding the process up, what would be the point?

No point at all, Sabino is in the catbird seat with all of his top choices. Why not take all of the 5 Official Visits then. The only reason he commits earlier than the end of the year is because he wants to be an EE. I'm with Marv, I see late November, early December as his timing.

[The Army Awakens]

He said on power hour that he wanted to decide in October... So he has until October 31st to get his officials in... And I don't think he wanted to take all five visits... not sure about that... But I do remember him saying that... So we have a wait and see... UNC and ND being the last two and really the only two that have a shot at Mr. Sabino... He would be the biggest defensive committment with Omar Hunter being 1A... Because of his athleticism, pure position at OLB, EE, and a South Florida, Miami four star, might get his fifth after this season...

[Pete]

I thought he was going to be an EE?

[GoshenGipper]

I thought he was going to be an EE?

:eek:


No point at all, Sabino is in the catbird seat with all of his top choices. Why not take all of the 5 Official Visits then. The only reason he commits earlier than the end of the year is because he wants to be an EE. I'm with Marv, I see late November, early December as his timing.


He said on power hour that he wanted to decide in October... So he has until October 31st to get his officials in... And I don't think he wanted to take all five visits... not sure about that... But I do remember him saying that... So we have a wait and see... UNC and ND being the last two and really the only two that have a shot at Mr. Sabino... He would be the biggest defensive committment with Omar Hunter being 1A... Because of his athleticism, pure position at OLB, EE, and a South Florida, Miami four star, might get his fifth after this season...

[IrishKnight1023]

hahaha ^^....I agree with Sabino deciding in Oct. because on Power hour he sounded that way. The only reason that gave hope during his visit was that Filer had a "Spot no matter what" but he still decided early. Non the less he will be a major get but I don't think he'd be the biggest get on defense so far, not at all.

[YoungIrish]

Yes hes definetly going to be an EE...so you would think he would have to make his decison in the comming months...I think he would be a great pick up...hes truley a very athletic linebacker...

[NDisNCin2010]

rivals headline re: Sabino OSU visit
"Sabino's OSU visit better than expected"
ugh...i think Marv81 is right, we need to be patient on this one gang...aw hell, gonna need somethin recruiting wise to do this fall other than check out high school sophomores forty times, right?

[NDgrandson]

IK1023, nice avatar.

Sabino is said to be an EE.

While he might not be the #1 defensive recruit in this year's hall, he's damn good and would be the ultimate cherry on top of this #1 recruiting class.

[irishdan123084]

IK1023, nice avatar.

Sabino is said to be an EE.

While he might not be the #1 defensive recruit in this year's hall, he's damn good and would be the ultimate cherry on top of this #1 recruiting class.

i beg to differ. floyd would be the cherry on top. :)

[irishunclebill]

rivals headline re: Sabino OSU visit
"Sabino's OSU visit better than expected"
ugh...i think Marv81 is right, we need to be patient on this one gang...aw hell, gonna need somethin recruiting wise to do this fall other than check out high school sophomores forty times, right?


Article written by a BuckeyeGrove homer, even the headline is misleading.

[IrishCalves]

Some summarizing thoughts:

We have recently been spoiled/surprised, but I think it's important to realize that this pace is not the new norm. Its rather rare that you see 4 of your last 5 commits surprise when they pull the trigger, either sooner than expected, or than they originally indicated. Blanton = 2 months early (though stepdad ruined the "surprise"), Slaughter = didn't bother to visit LSU & UM, Johnson = surprised most of the outsiders, and Filer = went from AAA/NSD announcement to mid-July. We shouldn't come to expect this with every single prospect, so I for one won't get too worked up about Sabino, under delusions of grandeur inspired by Corwin. I feel pretty much the same way about Sabino that I did about Johnson, but can I honestly hang my hat on that? Not so much.

We can hope for a similar fate, but there's little if any reason for me to believe that this recruitment will end sooner rather than later. I'm with IUB on that front. Only way we could control speeding things up is if Corwin Brown and Rob Ianello fly down to Miami on Sundays, and starts doing NCAA sanctioned handy man work in the Sabino abode, all the while organizing bake sales for the local fire house - saving kittens couldn't hurt too. Only other way I see Sabino ending the process early is if he gets sick of the entire process and wants to go back to a normal life. But that's hardly predictable if you don't know the kid - nor is it enough to build a case for why this'll all end soon.

I think the longer we have to wait for an announcement, the better if you're an ND fan. A 1 day swing by visit to ND is enough to reconfirm interest, but might not be enough to ice the cake when he's still as open as he says he is. An official may be the slam dunk we're looking for. 'Til then, sit tight, and keep your fingers crossed for the proverbial cherry on top of a defensive sunday.

[scooper]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Listen to this guy.

[NDGirlzRock]

I trust Calves "female....um I mean male" intuition implicitly. HeHeHe! Just have to be patient and play your cards right here. I think that when he actually sees a game day event at ND stadium.....I'm sorry but UNC can't compare to that. Time will tell.

[daytonirish]

Patient you say. I would have liked for him to commit on this visit, but if he wants to take his time then I will be as patient as need be to here him say he's coming to N.D. next year.

[rontdtarchala]

you guys will have to be patient for me....my noives oy veh

[irishunclebill]

The latest on Sabino.

1) Has not yet decided whether he will take an Official Visit to ND.

2) Plans to commit in November after all of his Official Visits.

3) Has been cleared to EE at ND if he selects the Irish.

4) Says he is the last D recruit that ND is looking at.

5) Being recruited to play the "Will" LB position, but has been told that he could play any of the 4 LB positions in the 3-4 depending on the defensive package for any given play.

[YoungIrish]

Last D recruit...hmm....I would say thats about true..unless Arthur Brown pulls the shocker of the year...But I would hope Sabino picks up..we need his OLB skills...kid is a player..

[IrishKnight1023]

The latest on Sabino.

1) Has not yet decided whether he will take an Official Visit to ND.

2) Plans to commit in November after all of his Official Visits.

3) Has been cleared to EE at ND if he selects the Irish.

4) Says he is the last D recruit that ND is looking at.

5) Being recruited to play the "Will" LB position, but has been told that he could play any of the 4 LB positions in the 3-4 depending on the defensive package for any given play.

-------Isn't the Will a middle position? I don't know If I agree with that, but I'm not a coach.

[WeisGuy31]

Not so... well atleast at what I have been around. I believe that our defense has been:

2 Middle backers - Sam/Stud or Mike
2 Outside backers - Will or Bull

Maybe my school is a little different haha. But I am almost positive that was the way our defense has been run. I could be wrong.

[rontdtarchala]

Screw It Just Get Him On Board Already

[IrishKnight1023]

Screw It Just Get Him On Board Already

-----I'm not fimiliar with this LB lingo. When I was playing it was Inside linebacker and well our Outside LB's were called "Monster"

[irishziggy]

Not so... well atleast at what I have been around. I believe that our defense has been:

2 Middle backers - Sam/Stud or Mike
2 Outside backers - Will or Bull

Maybe my school is a little different haha. But I am almost positive that was the way our defense has been run. I could be wrong.

from what i know. sam is usually strong side back, mike's the middle lb, and will's the weakside.

this is usually the lingo for the 4-3.

lets not forget that the defense we're going to isnt a full blown 3-4, it's 3-4 personnel, so we could be in 4-3 in a lot of situations. with say kerry neal at DE/OLB, toryan smith at the mike, crum @ sam, and brockington @ will

[Nardo!]

There's 4 positions for our linebacker:

Sam
Mike
Jack
Will

The Will and Sam are the hybrid rush ends, the Mike is the strongside MLB and the Jack is the weakside MLB. I believe that's how they work. I might be getting the Will and Jack positions mixed up. One is a rush end and the other is the WSE MLB.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Will sam jack mike?

[NDgrandson]

I just hope it's

Darius
Anthony
Steve
Etienne

DASE for short. As in, good dase are ahead for ND.:)

[stonebreakerwasgod]

You can always tell when it gets late. LOL

[GoshenGipper]

I'm pretty sure this is ND's new alignment names.

Jack - Weak MLB
Mike - Strong MLB
Sam - Strong OLB
Will - Weak OLB

At my HS it was alittle different too.

(4-4)
Sam - Stong MLB
Mike - Weak MLB
Will - Weak OLB
Renagade - Strong OLB

(4-3)
Sam - Stong OLB
Mike - MLB
Will - Weak OLB

[YoungIrish]

Im ready for some DASE...dont forget Poluzney...I think he will turn some heads...I like how we are going to be able to have a great rotation with our linebackers..keep the blitzing fresh..

[iloveirish_12]

I dont feel safe about him anymore. I think he might not come to notre dame.

[irishziggy]

I dont feel safe about him anymore. I think he might not come to notre dame.


the only thing that made me think he might commit was TAA's comments. But I never really thought he was a lock. And I always thought it would take some time to get him

[Double_Domer]

So CB has 4 months to zero in on one guy to commit for next year...hmmm, I think he will be Irish if the results so far are any indication...;)

[mikejND]

I agree Double D, unlike most schools, Corwin Brown can put a lot more effort into recruiting him than any other school could. We were the school recruiting him the hardest previous to our 19 commits, and I don't expect that to change now.

[IrishKnight1023]

http://www.goupstate.com/article/20070802/PSPORTS02/70802009/-1/psports

Major Miami Prospect Cutting List

By Matt Long
LB Etienne Sabino (6-3 230) has the unenviable task of choosing between 47 offers. The list includes schools national powerhouses such as Notre Dame, Ohio State, Florida, Miami, Tennessee, Southern Cal, LSU, and Auburn. Georgia Tech, Clemson, North Carolina, Georgia, NC State, and Duke are also among Sabino's numerous offers. "I'm working on making a top five," Sabino said, "I'll probably have it in two weeks or so...Southern Cal, North Carolina, and Ohio State, they're probably on my list right now, but I'm trying to decide the last two." It looks like Clemson might be out of the running, however, as Sabino said that he had not heard from them since summer began. He did not attend any camps, but did visit Notre Dame, Ohio State, Georgia Tech, Tennessee, UNC, Auburn, Georgia, NC State, and Duke. He hopes to be able to attend Southern Cal's opening game, but doesn't yet know about any other fall visits.He will graduate early, so he expects to commit "sometime in November."

----Well USC, O$U and UNC are definently in there while he figures out the last two? I've lost all confidence that I once had for him. Obviously our visit didn't blow anything out of the water for him but apprently the O$U one did.

[hamiljar]

I-knight thanks for the article. This does not look good for us. I wonder if we will offer another linebacker or push for Arthur Brown even harder?

Go Irish

[irishunclebill]

http://www.goupstate.com/article/20070802/PSPORTS02/70802009/-1/psports

Major Miami Prospect Cutting List

By Matt Long
LB Etienne Sabino (6-3 230) has the unenviable task of choosing between 47 offers. The list includes schools national powerhouses such as Notre Dame, Ohio State, Florida, Miami, Tennessee, Southern Cal, LSU, and Auburn. Georgia Tech, Clemson, North Carolina, Georgia, NC State, and Duke are also among Sabino's numerous offers. "I'm working on making a top five," Sabino said, "I'll probably have it in two weeks or so...Southern Cal, North Carolina, and Ohio State, they're probably on my list right now, but I'm trying to decide the last two." It looks like Clemson might be out of the running, however, as Sabino said that he had not heard from them since summer began. He did not attend any camps, but did visit Notre Dame, Ohio State, Georgia Tech, Tennessee, UNC, Auburn, Georgia, NC State, and Duke. He hopes to be able to attend Southern Cal's opening game, but doesn't yet know about any other fall visits.He will graduate early, so he expects to commit "sometime in November."

----Well USC, O$U and UNC are definently in there while he figures out the last two? I've lost all confidence that I once had for him. Obviously our visit didn't blow anything out of the water for him but apprently the O$U one did.

I don't take too much out of this article. You have to consider the source. Of all the schools that have no reason to hate ND, South Carolina & Clemson fans and their media sources are at the top of the list. I'd wait for some confirmation from other more reliable sources before I would start throwing Sabino under the bus.

[YoungIrish]

Yea Im not gong to put to much stock into that article...I wanna see something from Rivals or Scout...but he might just not have like ND that much..I dunno how..unless hes like blinde or something...but you never know..He might like the big school atmosphere...He would be a great get...we need some OLB's...

[Svoboda]

One more caveat for everyone. That website fiercely denied everything about Gary Gray and Notre Dame even after he switched his verbal last year. Grain of salt.

[NDGirlzRock]

Good to know SVO thanks....makes me feel better.

[ab2cmiller]

One more caveat for everyone. That website fiercely denied everything about Gary Gray and Notre Dame even after he switched his verbal last year. Grain of salt.

It may be from the same web site, but when they are quoting Sabino and he says ..... "I'm working on making a top five," Sabino said, "I'll probably have it in two weeks or so...Southern Cal, North Carolina, and Ohio State, they're probably on my list right now, but I'm trying to decide the last two." ..... it doesn't look good.

Of course things can always change in recruiting but when a recruit lists 3 schools and says he's "trying to decide the last two" it's not good news for us, especially after he just visited.

At this point I would think our chances of landing Sabino are not real good and we are definitely not the team to beat unless Charlie and Corwin can work some magic.

[notredomer23]

It may be from the same web site, but when they are quoting Sabino and he says ..... "I'm working on making a top five," Sabino said, "I'll probably have it in two weeks or so...Southern Cal, North Carolina, and Ohio State, they're probably on my list right now, but I'm trying to decide the last two." ..... it doesn't look good.

Of course things can always change in recruiting but when a recruit lists 3 schools and says he's "trying to decide the last two" it's not good news for us, especially after he just visited.

At this point I would think our chances of landing Sabino are not real good and we are definitely not the team to beat unless Charlie and Corwin can work some magic.

You dont understand though, the people hate notre dame with a passion. He probably did say them and the writer just chose not to mention them.

[ab2cmiller]

I would normally agree with you but he listed three and said I'm trying to decide the last two. The only way the math works is if Notre Dame was not mentioned or he did mention them in place of one of the other three listed and the newspaper guy misquoted him.

[irishunclebill]

It may be from the same web site, but when they are quoting Sabino and he says ..... "I'm working on making a top five," Sabino said, "I'll probably have it in two weeks or so...Southern Cal, North Carolina, and Ohio State, they're probably on my list right now, but I'm trying to decide the last two." ..... it doesn't look good.

Of course things can always change in recruiting but when a recruit lists 3 schools and says he's "trying to decide the last two" it's not good news for us, especially after he just visited.

At this point I would think our chances of landing Sabino are not real good and we are definitely not the team to beat unless Charlie and Corwin can work some magic.

LOL- Recruits have never been misquoted or taken out of context to serve the editorial purposes of the author in pleasing his audience.:rolleyes:

Even the format ..., suggests that the quotes were not word for word what Sabino said. It could be all exactly true, but you need to see some confirmation on this independent of a website that has an ax to grind with Notre Dame. At this point taking what this guy has to say literally is the same as believing that the garbage spewed in a rag like profootballtalk.com is all factual.

Let's wait on this a liitle bit before we write Sabino off. I'll repeat the cliches, thrown under the bus, grain of salt, etc., etc.

[irishunclebill]

I would normally agree with you but he listed three and said I'm trying to decide the last two. The only way the math works is if Notre Dame was not mentioned or he did mention them in place of one of the other three listed and the newspaper guy misquoted him.

Are you familliar with a famous piece of classic recruiting garbage journalism known as "The Golf Cart Tour". This happens all the time with these so called web journalists.

[NDisNCin2010]

web journalist=oxymoron

[irishunclebill]

web journalist=oxymoron

LOL- exactamundo.

[Specnatz]

About as factual as the writings in the Onion. If the so called "reporter" was going to quote Sabino why does he need all the periods. which stand for let me edit something out and move to something I want to cover.

Most web and now even major sources of sports reporting are crap. They never try and actually cover anything just rinse and repeat someone else has already said, just rewrite it so you can make it your own and plagorize.

[NDisNCin2010]

Most web and now even major sources of sports reporting are crap. They never try and actually cover anything just rinse and repeat someone else has already said, just rewrite it so you can make it your own and plagorize.

sort of like what we do here...

oh, now calm down people, it was a fastball right down the middle on a 3-0 count...i had the green light, couldnt resist.

[irishunclebill]

sort of like what we do here...

oh, now calm down people, it was a fastball right down the middle on a 3-0 count...i had the green light, couldnt resist.


Ah, why'd you have to put in the second sentence. Looks like it's going to be a boring Friday afternoon, we could have used a little fireworks.:)

Maybe I should use my trust little MOD tools :cool: and edit your post.;)

[daytonirish]

With all the places Sabino's been to I don't recall him visiting USC. I know that doesn't mean much, but didn't he say that he was checking out the schools that he was most interested in. And also he has been qouted as saying that Corwin and N.D. have been recruiting him the hardest. Just a couple of things that make this article seem a little wierd. Or does he make officials to schools that have to catch up to N.D. for him to consider.

[marv81s]

A highly rated LB recruit, how could they not be interested in USC considering the way they send kids to the NFL and if someone is really interested in academics, they do have that.

He must not enjoyed his visit to ND all that much. Hopefully this article is all bullshit, but who knows.

[irishunclebill]

With all the places Sabino's been to I don't recall him visiting USC. I know that doesn't mean much, but didn't he say that he was checking out the schools that he was most interested in. And also he has been qouted as saying that Corwin and N.D. have been recruiting him the hardest. Just a couple of things that make this article seem a little wierd. Or does he make officials to schools that have to catch up to N.D. for him to consider.

From the very beginning Sabino has mentioned USC, he just never had the opportunity to visit because of his EE plans. He always intended to do an Official Visit there which is why I always felt that USC would be a player here. As long as he also makes an Official Visit to South Bend, then ND will remain a player as well. If he does not schedule an official for ND, then the tone of this Palmetto article is probably where Sabino's head is at.

[GhostSpirit]

Hey guys, I hope we get this guy. What do you think are our chances? ;)

[irishdan123084]

man i hate when people ask that question

[tedwick]

this guy has skillllzzzz. hope we land him!!!

[scooper]

Any news? What is he waiting for?

[mlcspinner]

he will be Irish

info link my gut

[HereComeTheIrish]

Any news? What is he waiting for?

lol...

It's been 46 minutes, so has anyone heard anything now?