'08 NJ OL Art Forst (Rutgers LOI)

[Svoboda]

Offensive tackle
Manasquan (Manasquan, NJ)

Ht: 6-foot-8
Wt: 288 lbs
Forty: 5.4 secs

Links of Interest: None

[Svoboda]

http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/ARTFORST11_22200.JPG

[NDgrandson]

If you have not read it on Fauria's profile, here you go.

Fauria is actively recruiting Forst.

http://blueandgold.com/content/?aid=3935

[weis19]

way to go joe!

[iloveirish_12]

I hope Fauria can recruit good. And Crist better do a good job cause we need those WR.

[irishunclebill]

B&G has a headline blurb that Forst is down to just ND & Rutgers. Goodbye Urbie!

NJ Tackle likely to choose between ND & Rutgers (http://www.blueandgold.com/recruiting/)

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Damn.....Since when are we comparable to Rutgers??

[irishunclebill]

Home State U., baby.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

So is OSU, but you don't see me being a bucknut.

[notredomer23]

yeah but you grew up in Cali and didn't you go to a home state U

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I had no money, and no SKilzz. It's called Calif State Univ. San Bernardino in DA house!

[irishunclebill]

I had no money, and no SKilzz. It's called Calif State Univ. San Bernardino in DA house!


Is that the Big House, and I don't mean Ann Arbor.;)

[stonebreakerwasgod]

No, that's San Bernardino. The college IS the sanctuary.

[notredomer23]

No its Cal State Penitentiary, Dont lie stoney

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Dang. Ya'll just went there.

[marv81s]

you went to usc stoney?

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Hell No!! I got an education at CSUSB. San Bernardino

[weis19]

at least urban the liar is out of the running!

[rontdtarchala]

I don't know about forst...you guys seem to think he's great...I saw him going against that kid from dunbar on generation next (i think his name is reggie ellis) and he got smoked baaaaaaaad...looked slower than a seven year itch...foot work was c- and I was not impressed at all...any of you that know me know how down I have been on our oline the last 2 years....we need dominating linemen that blow dl's off the line and blow holes you could drive a freight shaker through

[NDgrandson]

I think most see Forst as POTENTIAL. the "P" word. He is not there yet, but could be really good. If CW takes an OL, I bet they will be top notch.

[irishunclebill]

I don't know about forst...you guys seem to think he's great...I saw him going against that kid from dunbar on generation next (i think his name is reggie ellis) and he got smoked baaaaaaaad...looked slower than a seven year itch...foot work was c- and I was not impressed at all...any of you that know me know how down I have been on our oline the last 2 years....we need dominating linemen that blow dl's off the line and blow holes you could drive a freight shaker through

Forst is no Patchan, that's for sure, but then who is. I agree with NDGrandson that CW is looking at Forst as a project. The staff must see something in his footwork and quickness that compliments his almost perfect OT size to make them think he is worth a schollie, and probably a slot if he commits soon. He definitely needs work on techique but who better to be your tutor on that than a CW coached staff. Plus he had a pretty impressive Offer List, but that may have been also a case of "Follow the Charlie" that we have seen an awful lot of this year.

In any case, I'm just glad to see Forst is done with Urbie, I wonder if he too tried to commit and was turned down by His Majesty. Either way, he is better off away from Gainesviille, I don't see him as the bar-b-q type. I also think he is still just as likely to end up at Rutgers as ND, especially if he waits too long to decide.

[Smithers]

I'm hoping this kid comes to South Bend and closes out our OL recruiting for the year. I feel like we need a 4th to go with Cave, Golic, and Clelland, and he'd be a perfect fit.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I'm not gonna disagree with that. I wouldn't mind Erin Andrews in charge of CW's cord (not that cord).

[scooper]

I'd rather have Patchen, but Forst would be fine.

[NDisNCin2010]

Art Forst is now between ND and BC.

Yes, Boston College.

Rutgers is OUT
Florida (has been) OUT

Great Source close to AF situation on this info...

[robdog_5]

I would like to think so but I will wait till I hear it from Frost, No offense just find it hard to believe since he was all Rutgers at one point and Florida was up there with ND for #2.

[marv81s]

WTF???

[Troy's Enterprise Pride]

give me t-rob over forst any day. forst is raw but has "a high ceiling." ... but he's been dominated in a few camps. i like the polished recruits who can step in asap.

[NDisNCin2010]

dont get me wrong here i dont think Forst is better than Trev, Patchan or even Page AT ALL. Im not pulling, rooting for him over any of those 3, believe me.
my interests are for ND to get the best guys period, i could care less where they come from or if i have connections with a player, etc.
I have seen Forst play, and like you guys say, he is defintely a project, little soft right now, pretty much dominates inferior, smaller guys.
but since this spring with all the camps, unofficials, recruiting visits he has been everyone at Squan saying like a "light went on" for him (realizes needs to take advantage of his "god-givens:"height, weight etc...with WORK) and he is truly working out like a madman, training, doing stuff he never had to do, or has really never been asked to do to get him ready. like all these top level recruits more like he is getting ready for college rather than his senior year.

[NDisNCin2010]

I would like to think so but I will wait till I hear it from Frost, No offense just find it hard to believe since he was all Rutgers at one point and Florida was up there with ND for #2.

no offense taken Dog...BC jumping into the picture i found hard to believe but it may have something to do with Art being a VERY religious (though not Catholic) kid...

[IrishKnight1023]

no offense taken Dog...BC jumping into the picture i found hard to believe but it may have something to do with Art being a VERY religious (though not Catholic) kid...

-----Last week you said ND and BC were out and it was a UF and RU battle. Now Art kicks those two to the curb and replaces them with the last week eliminated BC and ND? You flipped out when I called BS last week and now this is not only wrong, but impossible to beleive. I know you might have your 9th hand scource guy, but this just isn't true.

[NDisNCin2010]

-----Last week you said ND and BC were out and it was a UF and RU battle. Now Art kicks those two to the curb and replaces them with the last week eliminated BC and ND? You flipped out when I called BS last week and now this is not only wrong, but impossible to beleive. I know you might have your 9th hand scource guy, but this just isn't true.


i didnt say that LAST WEEK. (ND, BC out RU and UF in)
you need to check your dates, my man.
when DD finally gets back up and running (BTW-what is going on over there?...hate to bring our DD fight over here GHers...) we will revisit and check the FACTS and posting times over there.

i am not a guy to post bullshit or talk bullshit in anything i do, so how do you feel about this...if Art Forst final two are not ND and BC...i will relinquish ALL posting rights here at GoldHelmet, OK? Fair enough?

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Alright. Let's play nice. I'm seeing too much of this.

[marv81s]

ND gets one of, if not their top Defensive prospect and we are bickering like kids. In the words of Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?"

[rontdtarchala]

no we can't and by gosh you better not start nothin with me cause I'm a computer rambo gosh dangit ...I crack me up! chill puppies chill (shhhhhh be very quiet I'm hunting skunkbears)

[Fishin'_Irish]

Ron, I seriously just laughed there. Keep it up.

[IrishCalves]

Not to kick a guy when he's in the midst of a quarrel, but if you check Blueandgold.com's front page NDisNC, it pretty much refutes your theory that ND is in the hunt for him.

[The Army Awakens]

Yeah Blue and gold says we maybe not out but our chances our becoming more and more like a Forston situation... The bus is full... TRob probably already told the staff and there wasn't any leaks because of the arena it was done in... So forget about Forst... Is he really as mean, nasty, and better than Robinson... Film says no...

Move him to the committed to others section soon...

[irishziggy]

Yeah Blue and gold says we maybe not out but our chances our becoming more and more like a Forston situation... The bus is full... TRob probably already told the staff and there wasn't any leaks because of the arena it was done in... So forget about Forst... Is he really as mean, nasty, and better than Robinson... Film says no...

Move him to the committed to others section soon...'

I agree, if we take two OL this year, one will be TR, the other will be Patchan. Forst is a project from the get-go. 6'8, nice footwork, but he hasnt faced the pass-rushers he'll face in D-1 even though his team was 1 of the best in the state last year.

[IrishKnight1023]

Yeah his competition is not impressive to say the least and he still doesn't dominate. He just tries to run people over instread of using any type of technique. He definently is a project and it's only a matter of time before he announces for RU. When he visits RU it'll be in the midst of their 6 (I'm pretty sure it's 6) straight home game schedule in the beginning of the season against terrible competition so they'll dominate and impress him. I just can't see them losing him now at all.

[NDisNCin2010]

yep, saw that...
well, Dan Silver of B+G's last 2 articles on Forst were:
June 26th: "Art Forst Nearing Decision?"
May 27th: "Irish Now "Forst" to be Reckoned With?"
maybe his source is as fickle as mine...or maybe our sources are right and the kid keeps changing his mind.
still, i will stick to my word per above, and if its not ND or BC in the kids final two, im gone...
funny thing is i dont even really want the kid at ND...think we have bigger targets on the hook....stay tuned, lets see how it ends up.

[NDgrandson]

Even if we are unlikely to end up with a recruit who holds an offer, we should not say, "I don't even want the kid at ND." Let's leave that up to CW and staff. Especially as we become a perrenial recruiting powerhouse again, there will be times when some recruits might seem to be not as good as another in our opinion. Naturally we want the best player. But keep comments which are negative to yourself.

[YoungIrish]

If we only have one more spot for an o-lineman I think I would want Robinson to have it...he was offered on day one..so you know Charlie thinks hes the best o-lineman on the board..

[IrishKnight1023]

yep, saw that...
well, Dan Silver of B+G's last 2 articles on Forst were:
June 26th: "Art Forst Nearing Decision?"
May 27th: "Irish Now "Forst" to be Reckoned With?"
maybe his source is as fickle as mine...or maybe our sources are right and the kid keeps changing his mind.
still, i will stick to my word per above, and if its not ND or BC in the kids final two, im gone...
funny thing is i dont even really want the kid at ND...think we have bigger targets on the hook....stay tuned, lets see how it ends up.

------You don't have to be gone, it's recruiting who cares.

[futurendcoach]

hes getting all hot in his pants

[scooper]

Commited to Rutgers

[stonebreakerwasgod]

yep, saw that...
well, Dan Silver of B+G's last 2 articles on Forst were:
June 26th: "Art Forst Nearing Decision?"
May 27th: "Irish Now "Forst" to be Reckoned With?"
maybe his source is as fickle as mine...or maybe our sources are right and the kid keeps changing his mind.
still, i will stick to my word per above, and if its not ND or BC in the kids final two, im gone...
funny thing is i dont even really want the kid at ND...think we have bigger targets on the hook....stay tuned, lets see how it ends up.



We're not gonna put your feet to the fire, bubba.

[scooper]

sources are like excuses which are like...you know.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I have a source for ice cream that is fairly reliable.

[IrishCalves]

Commited to Rutgers

Apologies for not having this moved over already. I haven't gotten a hold of my "How to moderate" tutorial kit that its pretty clear that I need. Still trying to get the hang of this, but you're very much right about that one scoop.

And as for NDisNCin, we'll take you back, for certain - you had it right the first time around, before your "new source" led you astray with BC/ND chatter.

[Svoboda]

Good get for Rutgers. Amazing frame but definitely raw.

[IrishKnight1023]

It's all good NDCin. I knew the kid from the beginning was a RU kid. It was only a matter of time and good that he got it over with.

[SpanishElite]

Yea he is raw. But for the most part all highschool OT (Not named Andre Smith, Sam Young and a few others) dont have the technique or physical strength to come in and compete anyway. But he is a great get for Rutgers.

[IrishKnight1023]

Good God Sam Young, just reminds me he's only going to be a So. and people already have him being around the 10th best T in the country. Top 5 draft pick when he leaves South bend IMO and it's been way too long since we've had that.

[NDisNCin2010]

I'm melting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i private messaged 2 guys at DD on Forst inside stuff thru this process, in my mind, my source had it all nailed down cold except for the late news on "its now BC or ND", if only DD didnt shut down a day earlier, i wouldnt have even been able to post the "ND or BC" news!
He's dead meat when i see him tomorrow at work, cost me all board credibility.
has anyone read if BC was truly in it at the end for Forst? i'm curious on that b/c source said Art really liked their new Head Coach who did get a late jump on recruiting overall.
anyway, good luck to Art, in the end i think its good he stays in Jersey and goes to RU, he has things to work on.

[weis19]

does anyone know why domer domain hasn't been working?by the way forst looked terrible at a combine in nj. i show it on the tom lemming show.

[NDisNCin2010]

BTW...does anyone have a link/article for this Forst to RU news?...been scouring the usual sites and didn't see anything...not doubting it, just wanted to confirm and also see what (if anything) Art said about the process.

[IrishKnight1023]

I don't think there is a story yet because it's Sunday, but the RU admin over on Rivals confirmed it. I know you want to hear if BC was at least #2, but there wasn't any other team even close for him besides RU and that's being honest. It was that way from the beginning and it's the way it ended.

[NDisNCin2010]

with Schiano being a Born Again Christian, and Forst family as well, i think Art will feel most comfortable at RU with Coach Schiano...

[IrishKnight1023]

http://www.c-n.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070729/FRONT01/70729016

-----Forst was only RU all along and like I said nobody else was really in it...


"Honestly, I didn't see myself at any school other than Rutgers," said Forst, who notified Scarlet Knights football coach Greg Schiano late Saturday evening of his decision to join the Scarlet Knights' 2008 recruiting class.

----And is a very good guy as well..

"Basically I didn't want to waste the University of Florida's and Notre Dame's time anymore," said Forst, a four-star (out of five) prospect according to scout.com and rivals.com and a consensus top-five New Jersey recruit. "I thought the world of Notre Dame's coaches, especially (offensive line) Coach Latina. I just didn't see myself at Notre Dame."

[irishziggy]

http://www.c-n.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070729/FRONT01/70729016

-----Forst was only RU all along and like I said nobody else was really in it...


"Honestly, I didn't see myself at any school other than Rutgers," said Forst, who notified Scarlet Knights football coach Greg Schiano late Saturday evening of his decision to join the Scarlet Knights' 2008 recruiting class.

----And is a very good guy as well..

"Basically I didn't want to waste the University of Florida's and Notre Dame's time anymore," said Forst, a four-star (out of five) prospect according to scout.com and rivals.com and a consensus top-five New Jersey recruit. "I thought the world of Notre Dame's coaches, especially (offensive line) Coach Latina. I just didn't see myself at Notre Dame."

still no mention of BC...sorry NDisNC

[dyrtdogg]

http://www.c-n.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070729/FRONT01/70729016


"Basically I didn't want to waste the University of Florida's and Notre Dame's time anymore," said Forst, a four-star (out of five) prospect according to scout.com and rivals.com and a consensus top-five New Jersey recruit. "I thought the world of Notre Dame's coaches, especially (offensive line) Coach Latina. I just didn't see myself at Notre Dame."

Good on Forst. That's enough to get me to cheer for his success at the collegiate level.

[irishunclebill]

LOI to Rutgers.