'08 TX RB Cyrus Gray (Texas A&M LOI)

[Svoboda]

Running back
DeSoto (TX) DeSoto

Ht: 6-foot-0
Wt: 188 lbs
Forty: 4.4 secs

Links of Interest: None

[Svoboda]

http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/Camper/PHOTO/CYRUSGRAYJD200.JPG

[Svoboda]

Here is a nice video highlight reel (http://64.237.99.126/oldclips/2008BA047.wmv) courtesy of TexasPreps.net.

[The Army Awakens]

Going to be in town couple days after J. Brown visits and before Ryan Williams as well...

[Troy's Enterprise Pride]

Running back
DeSoto (TX) DeSoto

Ht: 6-foot-0
Wt: 188 lbs
Forty: 5.4 secs

Links of Interest: None


fixed. he couldn't even turn the corner on a few of those plays. he's got nice vision and some good stability, but he lacks top-end speed.

[irish21]

I doubt that 5.4 time is correct.

[The New Louis]

I thought he was not an option anymore due to grades. I would rather have Ryan Williams or Thomas anyway

[Troy's Enterprise Pride]

right now, my order of preference (for those offered) is as follows:

williams
thomas
gray


that being said.... if it comes down to it, i'd only really want williams... otherwise, save the scholarship.

....OR OFFER JONAS GRAY..... i'm baffled as to why we have ignored him... and i highly doubt that it is b/c of his "supposed" comments about coach weis.

[IrishKnight1023]

right now, my order of preference (for those offered) is as follows:

williams
thomas
gray


that being said.... if it comes down to it, i'd only really want williams... otherwise, save the scholarship.

....OR OFFER JONAS GRAY..... i'm baffled as to why we have ignored him... and i highly doubt that it is b/c of his "supposed" comments about coach weis.

-------Jonas won't get an offer, he's too much like Hughes and we need more homerun hitters than we do bulldozers.

[NDisNCin2010]

-------Jonas won't get an offer, he's too much like Hughes and we need more homerun hitters than we do bulldozers.


as much as it pains me to admit it...i have to agree with Knight on this one.

[Troy's Enterprise Pride]

whats wrong with a bulldozer that runs a 4.37 forty?

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Hard to argue that point.

Edit-I haven't seen any film on the guy, so if he's not that fast, forgive me.

[IrishKnight1023]

whats wrong with a bulldozer that runs a 4.37 forty?

-----If you watch his film you can see that 4.37 speed doesn't translate always to football speed.

[rontdtarchala]

can I argue just for the sake of arguing...come on make my day

[rontdtarchala]

he looks sloooooooooowww to me!

[NDGirlzRock]

he looks sloooooooooowww to me!

Ditto!!! Sorry but if he run's a 4.4 40 then so can my 86 year old grandma!

[rontdtarchala]

thats right bubba's what she said

[The New Louis]

the game breaker of the group is thomas. I think the ship will sail on him b/c Ryan williams is making the trip out with his mom soon. We all know what happens when mom makes the trip to South Bend.

[Mick]

my 86 year old grandma could run for 1500 yards a season.

course shes 6'3, 250, built like a mack truck and runs a 4.3.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

LOL

[marv81s]

i would think that if jonas had an offer and cyrus didn't that we would be kissing jonas's ass and dissing cyrus. There is not much wrong with Jonas's game, he just doesn't have an offer for whatever reason. Let's move on.

[NDisNCin2010]

the game breaker of the group is thomas. I think the ship will sail on him b/c Ryan williams is making the trip out with his mom soon. We all know what happens when mom makes the trip to South Bend.

how true that is... i think the staff is 12 for 12 this year on targets who visit with their mom.

[NDGirlzRock]

Ok here is a woman's point of view about this. I go and visit schools with my kid! I'm worldly and I know what goes on in college. I care deeply about my son doing what he wants to do, but I also realize that football isn't the answer for 90% of the kids that play division one ball. I see ND, what do they offer to my son? He can play football for one of the most recoginized programs in the country. But more importantly, the education and graduation rates at ND really get me interested! It gives me a security blanket that my son will have options if the football doesn't work out. Plus it's a smaller more family oriented atmosphere. Mom trumps all! Now we know what CB talks more to the parents than he does the recruits.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Don't forget, it's away from all the bad influences present in Florida, Socal, and Columbus. :)

[DiegoIrish]

I agree he doesnt look extremely fast but those films can be deceptive. I will say this though, that kid has some great vision/instincts.

[The Army Awakens]

I believe you don't pass on a four star running back from Texas considering all that talent in that state... I'd say we take whoever jumps on board first... Whoever that maybe... But all of these guys know that so Cyrus must seriously be thinking about a committment or he would be left at the altar, cuz Ryan Williams could possibly commit on his visit as well.

[DiegoIrish]

Crazy how much different this recruiting class has gone than anything I've seen at ND before. And to think we have so many RB's interested it's whoever gets there first that locks up the spot...awesome.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Does anybody see ANY of our RB not play this year?? I don't, and I do believe that an incoming RB would stand a pretty good chance to get some quality touches in his junior/senior year (if not before).

[rontdtarchala]

how many big time running backs from texas are there playing right now in the nfl can't think of one...there were a few...one comes to mind and can we nicely say.......flake! now that's not to say any young man looking to start a collegiate carrier is a flake but I'll take a rb out of oh say cali, florida, or from sec and acc country first...jmo

[irishziggy]

how many big time running backs from texas are there playing right now in the nfl can't think of one...there were a few...one comes to mind and can we nicely say.......flake! now that's not to say any young man looking to start a collegiate carrier is a flake but I'll take a rb out of oh say cali, florida, or from sec and acc country first...jmo

lol can you say Ladanian Tomlinson? from Rosebud, Texas

[goirish41]

Adrian Peterson? He's not too bad. or LT or Cedric Benson

[iloveirish_12]

I dont know why but for some reason I think ND lands him. I just have this feeling. I hope I am right.

[dyrtdogg]

i would think that if jonas had an offer and cyrus didn't that we would be kissing jonas's ass and dissing cyrus. There is not much wrong with Jonas's game, he just doesn't have an offer for whatever reason. Let's move on.

This probably belongs in Jonas's thread, so move it, if need be. Does anyone have any concrete reason why Jonas didn't get an offer? I remember last year he actually favored the Irish and supposedly his Uncle was posting on IE. Did the coaches just not like his tape or was there some other reason for the non interest?

[indydomer]

He's is going to run out of time when Ryan Williams comes aboard. Kids got grade issues anyway.

[NDGirlzRock]

His film looks slow too. Looks like he didn't eat his Wheaties!

[dankus]

He's is going to run out of time when Ryan Williams comes aboard. Kids got grade issues anyway.

If I recall correctly, Robert Hughes had to work on his grades as well - which he did.


how many big time running backs from texas are there playing right now in the nfl can't think of one...there were a few...one comes to mind and can we nicely say.......flake! now that's not to say any young man looking to start a collegiate carrier is a flake but I'll take a rb out of oh say cali, florida, or from sec and acc country first...jmo

out of the top 5 rushers from last year, only one went to a high school in california or florida(texas, nevada, virginia, maryland and florida).

While there are ACC schools in Virginia and Maryland, they are not exactly what people think of when you conjure up images of great running back producers, but there they are.

What it boils down to is this, DeSoto plays in 5A in Texas. Texas has good, competitive high-school football. Therefore, DeSoto competes in an environment that breeds quality players - including running backs. To ride this kid off because he went to Texas is kind of foolish.

[IrishCalves]

If I recall correctly, Robert Hughes had to work on his grades as well - which he did.

True, but would Gray have 'til January to pump his grades up, let alone make a decision like Hughes did? Its just the nature of the beast this time around. C. Thomas slated to decide in October, Ryan Williams bringing his Mom up to campus in early August... time is of the essence, and unfortunately for Gray its he needs more than he'll probably be given.

[IrishKnight1023]

I think this years group of RB's are the weakest in a while in talent...

[NDisNCin2010]

if Ryan Williams comes on up w/ Mom and beats all these guys to the punch, that will be just fine with me.

i think he is the best of the lot anyway.

CT does intrigue me w/ all these Barry Sanders references...i just have yet to see a "future Barry Sanders" on the limited site films i have seen.

[irishunclebill]

Gray is talking about making Official Visits to ND, Cal, Florida, and Arizona, but has not set anything up yet. It seems very unlikely that there will be a spot left for him by the time he gets to make an unofficial visit.

First dog to the table for RB's Cyrus, better make that Official for the GT game, and even that might be too late.

[rontdtarchala]

gosh I like when people use my words to state an opinion but the fact is the best rb's come out of pac 10 acc sec country sorry thats just the truth and I have enough bourbun in me to prove it hahahaha

[irishziggy]

gosh I like when people use my words to state an opinion but the fact is the best rb's come out of pac 10 acc sec country sorry thats just the truth and I have enough bourbun in me to prove it hahahaha

so basically everywhere except big 10 country, big east country, and big 12 country?

[irishunclebill]

Gray may be dropping out of the race for the one potential RB spot in the Class of 2008 due to non-football related issues. It may be just a two man race to the table between RW & CT.

[NDgrandson]

Gray may be dropping out of the race for the one potential RB spot in the Class of 2008 due to non-football related issues. It may be just a two man race to the table between RW & CT.

Care to take this to the Gold Club and let us know what non football related issue this might be?

[irishunclebill]

Care to take this to the Gold Club and let us know what non football related issue this might be?

No need, there is rumored to be academic issues.

[NDGirlzRock]

I think that I heard that somewhere too.

[IrishCalves]

I remember first mention of it being made during a Mike Frank Power Hour a few weeks back.

[IrishKnight1023]

http://notredame.scout.com/a.z?s=109&p=2&c=667903

He says the Irish have been recruiting him the hardest. "They have great prestige and I like the coaches a lot," he said. "Coach Charlie Weis has done big things in the NFL and I have a lot of respect for him as a human and a coach. He talks about character first and says that's what makes someone a Notre Dame football player. I like the team they have. They all seem like great guys with good personalities."

[eric_navy]

Another school that Gray is seriously thinking about taking an official visit to is Florida, which he says reminds him of his high school squad.

Not a joke, but still hilarious!

[irishunclebill]

Gray keeps on talking about making an Official Visit to ND but still has not scheduled one. By the time he gets around to it there may not be a spot left for him.

[Jiggafini19]

The home schedule is rather limited for ND to start. These kids have games of their own and school to think about.

Home dates:

09/01
09/22
10/13
10/20
11/03
11/10
11/17

I'd rather not have kids coming for officials in November, especially for those yawners games against the Armed Forces and a basketball school.

[irishunclebill]

Gray had a big game over the weekend for DeSoto as he rushed for 143 yards on 18 carries from the QB position as DeSoto avenged last year's loss to Garland by handing them one of the most lopsided losses they have suffered in years with a final score of De Soto 47, Garland 14.

Garland is Chancey Aghayere's school so this was a signature win for DeSoto & Gray. Based on Gray's running success from the QB position, it appears that Chancey did not have a great game. Must have had his mind on his trip to Florida the next day.

[irishunclebill]

Also no further news from Gray on when or if he plans on taking an Official Visit to Notre Dame. He did mention that since 9/1 Louisville has been recruiting him the hardest which might mean, 1)ND has cooled on him somewhat because of continuing concern over grades, or 2)because they feel they have a better shot at CT or RW, or 3)absolutely nothing at all.

[irishunclebill]

One door closes, another one opens. CT's commit to UGA may have convinced Cyrus Gray that he has a real shot at getting to ND as he has finally set up a date for an Official Visit. Cyrus will be in South Bend for the Navy game on 11/3. So, far ND seems to be the only Official that Gray has actually set up, though he is saying he will make others.

[JMR8]

I like him a lot, but the video on him doens't look all that impressive. I don't knoe it is just hard to tell with that O and the D seems really slow. Who knows maybe I'm way wrong.

[NDisNCin2010]

Cyrus may be higher on ND than we (I) first thought...according to Scout

[irishunclebill]

Cyrus has re-confirmed that he will be visiting ND this weekend. He has also tentatively set-up one other Official Visit, to Louisville, on 12/7. However, Gray's high school, DeSoto, is expected to compete for a TX state championship, and unless they are upset, Cyrus will most likely be playing football on 12/7 instead of watching it.

[irishunclebill]

Gray's visit this weekend coincides with more information that Cyrus's interest in ND is very serious and vice versa. It appears that Cyrus has pulled ahead of Ryan Williams as the more likely of a possible second RB recruit in the Class of 2008. It also appears that the staff believes that Cyrus Gray is a more complimentary back to Jonas Gray than RW would be, that and the fact that it would be kind of cool to have bookend backs with the same last name for this class. I can just envision how that would cause serious problems for Hammond and Haden every home game Saturday.

[The New Louis]

I think they view C. Gray as an athlete/RB. He could be a versatile prospect for us.

[NDisNCin2010]

Louisville just got a commit from an RB out of Cinncinatti, so wondering if that impacts C Gray visit/status to U of L in any way...?

[goirish41]

Louisville just got a commit from an RB out of Cinncinatti, so wondering if that impacts C Gray visit/status to U of L in any way...?

I really don't think it will matter. I believe Cyrus commits to ND this weekend.

[daytonirish]

Love that spirit goirish41, here's looking forward to another big commitment this weekend.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

My big question is Trev and Page. Although the wait could be much longer.

[NDisNCin2010]

could it be possible, like Harper "QB/WR", Gray comes in w/ the "QB/RB" opportunity...fills that "dual threat" role w/ QB being one of the roles that CW seems to want to fill (i'm not sure why) with DJ leaving?
which has me thinking: can Gray beat Harper to the punch if he commits before Harper?

[brownkj002]

could it be possible, like Harper "QB/WR", Gray comes in w/ the "QB/RB" opportunity...fills that "dual threat" role w/ QB being one of the roles that CW seems to want to fill (i'm not sure why) with DJ leaving?
which has me thinking: can Gray beat Harper to the punch if he commits before Harper?

Are you talking about G. Robinson?

[goirish41]

Are you talking about G. Robinson?

I think G. Robinson and and to a somewhat smaller degree C. Harper (although I'm pretty sure he's not coming) could stand on his own as a pure wide receiver. I think the staff would be very happy if Robinson came in and filled that spot. I also think that the staff views Gray as a pure RB. C. Gray, G. Robinson or C. Harper would never see the field under center (with the possible exception of on the scout team preparing for Navy). That's just my opinion.

[and1john]

I really, REALLY want Cyrus on the Irish at RB. This kid is underrated bigtime, and can be the every down back we've been looking for. Great speed and vision...I just hope the Jonas Gray commitment scares him off, which I think it will. He would be a HUGE get!

[lionelhutz]

My Spidey sense is tingling w/ Cyrus. I really think he commits to the Irish soon after or during his visit.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I could live w/ that. My guess is he sits out the year if he does commit.

[futurendcoach]

your all fucking looney, it will never be enough. You guys want every player with a dick.

[NDgrandson]

I really, REALLY want Cyrus on the Irish at RB. This kid is underrated bigtime, and can be the every down back we've been looking for. Great speed and vision...I just hope the Jonas Gray commitment scares him off, which I think it will. He would be a HUGE get!

Where did this sudden love fest for Cyrus come from? We just got the #3 TB in the country according to rivals (Jonas). Earlier in the year we were saying a TB would be nice but we could forego a year if need be. Now we have Jonas, we are not hurting at all for a TB. Who knows, Cyrus could be the next Reggie Bush, but we have Aldridge, Allen, Hughes and now Jonas Gray in the fold. That is probably why Stoney says Cyrus sits a year. TB is no longer a concern, not that it ever really was. It's Trev, Page and Baldwin we really want. Gerrell Robinson to a lesser degree. Trev and Page are real needs and everything else is Momma's gravy. Baldwin will be a playmaker and NFL 1st rounder IMO so you can always hope to scoop up a stud like that.

[lionelhutz]

For me the love fest comes from the fact that both Jonas and Cyrus are tremendous athletes, and a program can never have too many athletes!

[RichardRiot]

that and the fact that it would be kind of cool to have bookend backs with the same last name for this class. I can just envision how that would cause serious problems for Hammond and Haden every home game Saturday.

LOL IUB,
then we'd have to give Gary Gray a few reps as QB with them to really muck up the 2-H's. In fact, even better they should hold the 3-Gray-backfield for a game that SEC is covering so that Verne can bobble the play call; he'd probably have 4 Gray's in the backfield (double-counting Gray Gray)

[Spiderman]

heard the visit went good. is he becoming any closer to being irish?

[JMR8]

i don't really want him after we got gray, i think it's kind of a waste of a scholarship. who knows...

08 RB
Aldridge jr.
Allen so.
Hughes so.
J. Gray fr.

imo go after a 09 back.

[stew654]

Cyrus continues to impress, dont know if we need to 2 rb's in this class but hard to turn him down.

DeSoto, Texas, running back Cyrus Gray has been one of the most dominating players in the Lone Star State for the past two seasons and for his efforts he's rewarded with a spot in the Rivals100. Gray moves into the No. 72 spot. Gray is one of the few top uncommitted players left on the board in Texas.

http://notredame.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=739390

[Fishin'_Irish]

i don't really want him after we got gray, i think it's kind of a waste of a scholarship. who knows...

08 RB
Aldridge jr.
Allen so.
Hughes so.
J. Gray fr.

imo go after a 09 back.

He and RW would both be mighty hard to turn down.

[NDisNCin2010]

rivals reporting that Cyrus Gray will now be taking an official visit to Kansas.
surprised Mangino not getting more looks from more highly ranked kids with all momentum he has this year.

[irishunclebill]

rivals reporting that Cyrus Gray will now be taking an official visit to Kansas.
surprised Mangino not getting more looks from more highly ranked kids with all momentum he has this year.

It's actually the Kansas recruiting site that is saying Cyrus Gray might be taking a visit there as well as to three other schools after his season is over. His only other currently scheduled visit is to Louisville on 12/7 which in this same article Cyrus is quoted as saying he will probably not take. As of now Cyrus Gray has no other Official Visits scheduled, to Kansas or anywhere else. That may change after his season is over, or it may not.

I'm not saying that Gray will end up Irish, but don't count ND out here either. In this same article where Cyrus is saying that he might visit Kansas, he goes out of his way to point out that he is very interested in schools that graduate a high percentage of athletes, and also has an excellent record of getting undergraduates into dental school. This is a lot more specific than the usual "academics is most important to me" spiel that we frequently hear, and there is only one school on Cyrus Gray's list that meets both of those criteria, and it's not Kansas, Toto.

[NDgrandson]

I am comforted to know IUB is still prowling the net for ND recruiting and keeping us up to date here at GH.

Cyrus Gray is down on my wish list behind 2 OL and 1 or 2 more WRs. IUB, any scoop on Page? If so, I guess I would see it on his profile. I really want him to verbal and we really do not hear too much on him.

[Fishin'_Irish]

RW has been quiet lately, too. He's still my #1 RB, but I would be more than ok with Cyrus.

[Akron Irish]

RW has been quiet lately, too. He's still my #1 RB, but I would be more than ok with Cyrus.

RW eliminated ND if I'm not mistaken

[Fishin'_Irish]

RW eliminated ND if I'm not mistaken

You're right, I totally missed that. Thanks.

[irishunclebill]

I am comforted to know IUB is still prowling the net for ND recruiting and keeping us up to date here at GH.

Cyrus Gray is down on my wish list behind 2 OL and 1 or 2 more WRs. IUB, any scoop on Page? If so, I guess I would see it on his profile. I really want him to verbal and we really do not hear too much on him.

No new news on Page to report. I was at the Duke game and have been in Chicago all week for Thanksgiving having a blast so I have not had much time to post.

BTW, ND may be 2-9 this year, but I guess I must be picking the right games to go to as the Duke victory was the 9th straight win I have seen at ND Stadium.

[Fishin'_Irish]

BTW, ND may be 2-9 this year, but I guess I must be picking the right games to go to as the Duke victory was the 9th straight win I have seen at ND Stadium.

You aren't picking the wins, the wins are picking you.

[RichardRiot]

No new news on Page to report. I was at the Duke game and have been in Chicago all week for Thanksgiving having a blast so I have not had much time to post.

BTW, ND may be 2-9 this year, but I guess I must be picking the right games to go to as the Duke victory was the 9th straight win I have seen at ND Stadium.

Okay guys, everyone cough up some cash. For Christmas, we are going to create a fund to buy IUB tickets for the 2009 ND-USC game........

[NDGirlzRock]

Okay guys, everyone cough up some cash. For Christmas, we are going to create a fund to buy IUB tickets for the 2009 ND-USC game........

I'll Poni up for that one!!!!!!

[GoldenShower]

Taken from a section of the Dallas Morning News. I think the importance is that if Gray is taking all of these trips plus an official to Cal, then that really wouldn't leave much time to offer Milton Knox. IUB - suggested that Knox wouldn't receive one until after Gray moved on or the entire 08 class shook-out. I would think if Knox gets one, it would happen after G.&T. Robinson, Page, Walker turned us down thereby opening up an offensive spot.

DeSoto running back Cyrus Gray, No. 6 on SportsDay's Area Top 100, has visited Notre Dame and has official visits set for Kansas (Dec. 7), Louisville (Dec. 14) and Florida (Jan. 11). He also plans to visit California.

He said he won't be limited to those colleges because he's visited several schools on his own. He also is considering offers from Oklahoma State and Texas A&M.

[marv81s]

I think Cyrus is a goner

I'd be slightly suprised if he was anything but a Gator when its all said and done.

[irishunclebill]

Taken from a section of the Dallas Morning News. I think the importance is that if Gray is taking all of these trips plus an official to Cal, then that really wouldn't leave much time to offer Milton Knox. IUB - suggested that Knox wouldn't receive one until after Gray moved on or the entire 08 class shook-out. I would think if Knox gets one, it would happen after G.&T. Robinson, Page, Walker turned us down thereby opening up an offensive spot.

DeSoto running back Cyrus Gray, No. 6 on SportsDay's Area Top 100, has visited Notre Dame and has official visits set for Kansas (Dec. 7), Louisville (Dec. 14) and Florida (Jan. 11). He also plans to visit California.

He said he won't be limited to those colleges because he's visited several schools on his own. He also is considering offers from Oklahoma State and Texas A&M.

Cyrus may take Arizona as his fifth visit as opposed to Cal. With all these visits Gray seems less and less likely to become Irish, but it is interesting that he still considers Ianello as one of his three favorite coaches recruiting him. The other two are his Louisviile & Florida recruiting coaches. Cyrus may have ended up at ND if the other Gray did not commit, he seems to have a genuine fondness for the Irish.

[irishunclebill]

Taken from a section of the Dallas Morning News. I think the importance is that if Gray is taking all of these trips plus an official to Cal, then that really wouldn't leave much time to offer Milton Knox. IUB - suggested that Knox wouldn't receive one until after Gray moved on or the entire 08 class shook-out. I would think if Knox gets one, it would happen after G.&T. Robinson, Page, Walker turned us down thereby opening up an offensive spot.

I agree with what you are saying here with regards to Knox possibly getting an offer sooner. The two critical elements are Cyrus Gray deciding to go elsewhere and any other Offensive Slot opening up. However, I am also hoping for other reasons that the timing of that will be pretty close to NSD. We expect that TRob, GRob, and Deion will all make their choices by January 5, and it is our hope that none of those three guys decision will open up an Offensive Slot. Kenny Page could possibly be the only one of those 4 guys who would go elsewhere, and he is not deciding until late January. So I'm hoping that any opening for a Knox offer will not be available until then, if at all. However, I think you are correct in saying that if Cyrus Gray goes elsewhere, and one of our three best hopes does as well, that would open up a slot for Knox earlier. At this point in time I am now more concerned with whether Knox will qualify to get an offer as opposed to whether he would accept one if it is offered.

[irishunclebill]

CW has not given up on Gray as he is expected to visit him sometime this week.

[NDisNCin2010]

IUB: is it out of the realm of possibilty that the given scenario could ever occur:
(not that i think it is, but just pushing all the recruitng angles on Gray a bit here)

21 committed
+Trev
and none of the WR offered choose ND (DWalker, GROb, Harper)

that maybe CW and Co are telling Gray if none of these guys (WR's above) come to ND, you can look to play RB OR WR here at ND?

i mean the kid plays QB, RB is an excellent ATH...im sure no problem at WR ala Arnez Battle, perhaps?

[irishunclebill]

IUB: is it out of the realm of possibilty that the given scenario could ever occur:
(not that i think it is, but just pushing all the recruitng angles on Gray a bit here)

21 committed
+Trev
and none of the WR offered choose ND (DWalker, GROb, Harper)

that maybe CW and Co are telling Gray if none of these guys (WR's above) come to ND, you can look to play RB OR WR here at ND?

i mean the kid plays QB, RB is an excellent ATH...im sure no problem at WR ala Arnez Battle, perhaps?

IMO, I do not not think it is that complicated. CW simply wants to have at least 2 RB's in every class if he can possibly get them. If he fails with Gray, then he will go after Knox if he qualifies. The only possible way that changes is if Chris Harper picks ND next Monday, because Harper could also fill the second RB slot that CW is looking for, and Gray and Knox would fall out of the picture.

[paddyman]

IMO, I do not not think it is that complicated. CW simply wants to have at least 2 RB's in every class if he can possibly get them. If he fails with Gray, then he will go after Knox if he qualifies. The only possible way that changes is if Chris Harper picks ND next Monday, because Harper could also fill the second RB slot that CW is looking for, and Gray and Knox would fall out of the picture.

IUB, what is the likelihood of that happening? Isnt Harper K State's to lose?

[irishunclebill]

IUB, what is the likelihood of that happening? Isnt Harper K State's to lose?

Very slim, but I would also be surprised if Harper ended up at K-State. I think a more likely destination is Illinois or Oregon. Less than a week until we find out for sure.

[paddyman]

appreciate it, I have not followed him at all. I also have not spent the time keeping up with his thread as he seemed such a long shot for so long.

[irishunclebill]

CW has not given up on Gray as he is expected to visit him sometime this week.

The visit was made yesterday.

[irishunclebill]

Cyrus is down to a Top 5 and ND is still on his list. There could be some posturing going on here, but whenever he talks about his favorites Gray almost invariably mentions ND first. The true posturing guys usually say their top 3 or 4, and then say, oh and Notre Dame as well. I don't want to read too much into that because I still think Gray is a big time longshot for the Irish, but I have to say that his consideration of the Irish at least seems to be sincere.

Anyway, his Final 5 are ND, Cal, Florida, Louisville, and Kansas. He will be in BBQ land next weekend with Omar. Gray will most likely be one of the few guys in Gainesville next weekend who have not already verballed at least once to someone other than Urbie. Next weekend is Urbie's annual Gainesville poachin' weekend. Gray is also visiting Cal on January 18, and plans to make his choice public on February 2.

[NDisNCin2010]

i all seriousness if i am a RB, why the hell would i go to Florida?
its been the Tebow/Harvin show for last 2 years down there...seems Meyer hardly uses RB's in that offense...not sure why, can anyone shed some light on this?
what are the annual rushing totals for RB's since UM got there?
he wont even let the RB run em in at the goal line (thats the QB's job-Tebow)

[mwinely]

Plus Florida got the RB transfer from USC - Moody I think. He will be eligible next year. I don't know the eligibility rules any longer but I don't think Harvin can go to NFL since he is only a sophomore - however the announcers seemed to imply that it might be a possibility.

[daytonirish]

Harvin has one more yr. If he tries to leave he'll end up in the same position Maurice Clarrett and Mike Williams did when they tried. Not playing football for a yr. and then flopping in the NFL at the very least. And for Clarrett screwing up a large portion of his life.

[irishziggy]

I watched the game Offense-Defense game last night on FSN and Gray had a pretty good game.

http://recruiting.scout.com/2/717097.html

[marv81s]

wish ND could get him, but I just have a terrible feeling he is going to end up a gator

[mikejND]

I believe so too. they'll use him similar to maybe Percy Harvin?! They have Moody coming in, and I expect him to hold down that RB spot.

[irishziggy]

anyone listen to rivals radio?

a poster on the free msg board said that mike farrell said Cyrus is Irish.

[therizz]

I haven't heard or seen anything else like that Zig...

[NDisNCin2010]

Demps just committed to UF wed according to espn...he is the fastest kid in the country...says he is gonna play RB, and catch a few balls here and there...urbie prolly promised him the Harvin role...perhaps he beat Gray to the punch for Florida...to our benefit? i hope so....guess well have to stay tuned.
i can hear Haden now..."gray and gray lined up behind crist...floyd and goodman out wide, walker on the near side..irish driving on USC here at the Coliseum trying to keep their undefeated season in tact..."

[eric_navy]

i can hear Haden now..."gray and gray lined up behind crist...floyd and goodman out wide, walker on the near side..irish driving on USC here at the Coliseum trying to keep their undefeated season in tact..."

This gave me goosebumps

[irishziggy]

http://notredame.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=335&tid=109524377&mid=109524377&sid=961&style=2

here's the link to the msg board.

[irishziggy]

Demps just committed to UF wed according to espn...he is the fastest kid in the country...says he is gonna play RB, and catch a few balls here and there...urbie prolly promised him the Harvin role...perhaps he beat Gray to the punch for Florida...to our benefit? i hope so....guess well have to stay tuned.
i can hear Haden now..."gray and gray lined up behind crist...floyd and goodman out wide, walker on the near side..irish driving on USC here at the Coliseum trying to keep their undefeated season in tact..."

i hope this helps or helped us. seemed like he wanted to go somewhere with prestige.

i havent heard any confirmations on the rumor, so that's just what it is. Just thought I'd pass it on to this board to see what some of the insiders have to say.

[irishunclebill]

I can tell you that he has not committed publically to ND, and I'm sure that this goat guy may have misinterpreted what Farrell said. It is more likely that Farrell would say that it looks good for the Irish with Gray than he actually is Irish. There seems to be little doubt that ND is back in it on this guy. One helpful sign here was Gray eliminating Texas A&M from his list of favorites, which clearly indicates that he is planning on leaving Texas for college. The big clue as to whether he is actually Irish already as a silent would be whether he cancels his scheduled trip to Urbie's big BBQ this weekend. If that happens I would like our chances even more, if it does not I would not get overly excited about what the Goat said until we see what happens after Cyrus has to deal with Urbie.

[daytonirish]

Nevermind. IUB just put to rest what I had seen.

[mikejND]

Mike Farrell got this information from one of Gray's teammate at the Junior combine in San Antonio. He still has visits left so, who knows? I won't get happy until he's finished with those.

[irishunclebill]

Mike Farrell got this information from one of Gray's teammate at the Junior combine in San Antonio. He still has visits left so, who knows? I won't get happy until he's finished with those.

That information was simply that Gray really liked ND a lot. It would be typical of Farrell to take that as a sign of a commit.

[IrishGrizz]

Does anyone have the post/quote/transcript/link to what Farrell actually said about Gray?

[NDisNCin2010]

also keep in mind the mess that Gray will have to navigate before and possibly during his visit to the BBQ:
Florida RB coach is leaving (would think this guys was his main recruiter)
Demps just committed (same postion as Gray for the most part)
Darrell Scott is also visiting (arguably best RB in the country)
not that all this means much as far as ND i.e signalling a commit to us, but Gray may be running out of options, and may be feeling the pressure to commit, the longer he waits on deciding no matter what school he chooses...

[irishunclebill]

also keep in mind the mess that Gray will have to navigate before and possibly during his visit to the BBQ:
Florida RB coach is leaving (would think this guys was his main recruiter)
Demps just committed (same postion as Gray for the most part)
Darrell Scott is also visiting (arguably best RB in the country)
not that all this means much as far as ND i.e signalling a commit to us, but Gray may be running out of options, and may be feeling the pressure to commit, the longer he waits on deciding no matter what school he chooses...

All of that is true, but Gray probably has less pressure on him to commit from ND than any other school on his list. I would guess that the 2nd RB slot is his as long as he makes up his mind by his current stated announcement date of 2/2.

It should also be interesting to see if Scott bothers to go to the BBQ now with the Demps commit. I get the impression that Scott is not all that high on Florida anyway, and it is not like he is leaving North Dakota for a nice mid-winter visit to Florida. Florida has limited schollies this year, so the Demps commit could very well be a signal that Urbie is not receiving good signals from either Scott or Gray.

[NDisNCin2010]

agree..i think Scott is either goin to Texas (their RB now going pro-not coming back)...or to Colorado, maybe he doesnt even make the trip.

like ive said before...if im a stud RB-why go to Florida and be essentially decoy in Urbie offense? QB gets all goaline touches, Harvin gets all the runs and screens, dinks and dunks, reverses...

is Scott originally from TX or Florida?...forgot which one.

[irishunclebill]

All of that is true, but Gray probably has less pressure on him to commit from ND than any other school on his list. I would guess that the 2nd RB slot is his as long as he makes up his mind by his current stated announcement date of 2/2.

It should also be interesting to see if Scott bothers to go to the BBQ now with the Demps commit. I get the impression that Scott is not all that high on Florida anyway, and it is not like he is leaving North Dakota for a nice mid-winter visit to Florida. Florida has limited schollies this year, so the Demps commit could very well be a signal that Urbie is not receiving good signals from either Scott or Gray.

Speak of the Great Scott, this is coming from the Texas recruiting site, but they are reporting that Scott has in fact cancelled his BBQ invitation.

[irishunclebill]

Does anyone have the post/quote/transcript/link to what Farrell actually said about Gray?

It was on Rivals radio, but basically all he said was that it was looking good for ND for Gray, and it was later verified from other sources that Farrell was basing that solely on info he had heard from one of Gray's HS teammates at the Junior combine, not anything that he heard directly from Cyrus. I look for Gray to keep to his 2/2 announcement date no matter what happens in the next few weeks. The best news for ND would be to hear that Cyrus, like the Great Scott, has cancelled his BBQ invite for this weekend.

[irishunclebill]

Florida RB coach is leaving (would think this guys was his main recruiter)

In addition to Drayton (the RB coach) leaving along with Holliday being generally good news for ND, Drayton's leaving specifically has to be very good news for ND with regards to Cyrus Gray. Gray specifically mentioned Drayton as one of the three recruiting guys that he and his family liked the most. The other 2 were the Louisville recruiter and Ianello.:cool:

[IrishGrizz]

Well, it keeps getting curiouser and curiouser. You still have got to think all of the peices are falling into place for a perfect storm of urbie getting punked and ND as one of the punkers. Scoot signs with the Buffs and CGray signs with the Irish. :)

[NDisNCin2010]

where did Drayton go? (which school..job?)

[irishunclebill]

where did Drayton go? (which school..job?)

Same position at Tennessee I believe.

[irishunclebill]

Actually right now it is a TBD Offensive Assistant position. Here is the article on the subject. Drayton was Brian Westbrook's RB coach at Villanova, so obviously his cred is growing. Also take a look at what he had to say about the Florida running game.

Tennessee hires Florida offensive assistant coach Stan Drayton, looks at Michigan aides (http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/01/10/sports/FBC-Tennessee-Coaches.php)



Tennessee hires Florida offensive assistant coach Stan Drayton, looks at Michigan aides

The Associated PressPublished: January 10, 2008

KNOXVILLE, Tenn.: Tennessee filled one of several vacancies on its coaching staff Wednesday with the hiring of offensive assistant coach Stan Drayton.

The 36-year-old Drayton said he wasn't looking to leave Florida, where he's coached running backs for the past three seasons, but was disappointed in the type of offense Florida has run during his three seasons there.

"The offense we were running in Florida did not have much involvement with the running back," he said during a news conference Wednesday night. "There was some frustration there, I must be honest with you."

Drayton also spent a season coaching running backs at Mississippi State and is expected to fill the same duty at Tennessee.

"I did a significant amount of research on him as he probably did us before he chose to come here, and everybody just had wonderful things to say about him not only as a coach, but as a person," Tennessee coach Phillip Fulmer said.

Fulmer had four vacancies to fill after offensive coordinator David Cutcliffe became head coach at Duke and took two Vol assistants with him, and wide receivers coach Trooper Taylor became co-offensive coordinator at Oklahoma State.

Among the candidates Fulmer is considering are former Michigan offensive coordinator Mike DeBord and quarterbacks coach Scott Loeffler.

Fulmer also interviewed Richmond head coach Dave Clawson, who led the Spiders to an 11-3 record and the semifinals in the Football Championship Subdivision last season. Clawson also was on the Villanova coaching staff with Drayton in the late 1990s.

"I'm looking for the right fit as we continue to work toward filling the offensive staff," Fulmer said.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Damn...I give credit to Tenn. They look serious.

[IrishGrizz]

CGray- it is meant to be. Come be a domer and get the chance to run the ball.

[irishjay]

darrell scott is from cali but has a cousin or brother playing in boulder. but with the departure of jamaal charles he could potentially step in and play at austin as well. i would simply love to see the liar lose out on gray (especaially if he comes to ND). you gotta believe that karma will catch up with the con artist eventually, what better time than now? my question is how will cyrus gray fit into ND's offense? i haven't heard anything about his style. put another way, could he play immediately next year as a true frosh considering the depth at that position?

[NDgrandson]

darrell scott is from cali but has a cousin or brother playing in boulder. but with the departure of jamaal charles he could potentially step in and play at austin as well. i would simply love to see the liar lose out on gray (especaially if he comes to ND). you gotta believe that karma will catch up with the con artist eventually, what better time than now? my question is how will cyrus gray fit into ND's offense? i haven't heard anything about his style. put another way, could he play immediately next year as a true frosh considering the depth at that position?

I think it is about "open space." IMO, CW just wants to have the ball in open space to give him a chance to score.

[pani_nasz]

Hughes, Allen, J Gray, C Gray - - - nice problem to have at RB.

[The New Louis]

f*ckin A

[NDisNCin2010]

The offense we were running in Florida did not have much involvement with the running back," he said during a news conference Wednesday night. "There was some frustration there, I must be honest with you."


ive been saying this all along...now weven their own coach admits it...UF is RB purgatory in Urbies system.
Meyer is gonna be screwed when Harvin is gone as he is a unique, cant be replaced type of guys IMHO...cant just "plug in another Percy" Urbie.

[Flyin_Irish]

Who is that quote from?

[stew654]

Florida running backs coach Stan Drayton who is heading to Tenn

[irishjay]

i wouldnt be surprised if jonas gray doesnt play a down w/ the expectation that james aldridge with stay healthy all year and live up to his 5 star ranking

[NDisNCin2010]

i wouldnt be surprised if jonas gray doesnt play a down w/ the expectation that james aldridge with stay healthy all year and live up to his 5 star ranking

why bring up Jonas Gray playing time? Aldrige expectations?

geesh...enough of the "starting from day 1" expectations for ANY recruit at ANY position.
J Gray, C Gray whoever...their time will come...when Aldridge leaves ND.
stock the cupboards with as much talent as you can...the cream will rise to the top-not based on stars, hype but on what they can do in the college game against elite competition both within the progam and vs our opponents.

all things in due time...

[IrishGrizz]

why bring up Jonas Gray playing time? Aldrige expectations?

geesh...enough of the "starting from day 1" expectations for ANY recruit at ANY position.
J Gray, C Gray whoever...their time will come...when Aldridge leaves ND.
stock the cupboards with as much talent as you can...the cream will rise to the top-not based on stars, hype but on what they can do in the college game against elite competition both within the progam and vs our opponents.

all things in due time...

Ditto, brother. :)

[irishman43]

I am not sure if this was posted already , so here goes.

Last modified 1/11/2008 - 6:06 am
Originally created 011108


UF assistant Holliday takes job at West Virginia


The ex-Mountaineers player returns as the assistant head coach


Florida associate head coach Doc Holliday is leaving Gainesville for a spot on the West Virginia football staff

Holliday, who has coached safeties since he came to UF as part of Urban Meyer's inaugural staff in 2005, has been hired as the assistant head coach at his alma mater, according to a source close to the situation.

Holliday, who also will coach tight ends and fullbacks, didn't return a message left on his cell phone. Meyer was unable to be reached for comment.

Holliday, 50, is a West Virginia native and was a linebacker for the Mountaineers before serving as an assistant coach under Don Nehlen from 1983 to 1999. Holliday was a graduate assistant at West Virginia in 1979 and 1980 and a part-time assistant in 1981 and 1982. He also was the associate head coach and receivers coach at N.C. State from 2000 to 2004.

Holliday interviewed to be West Virginia's head coach in December, but the school hired Mountaineers assistant Bill Stewart last week after a Fiesta Bowl victory over Oklahoma.

Holliday's loss leaves the Gators without a recruiter in the Miami area, although that part of the state hasn't yielded many UF players lately. Major Wright, who started seven games this season as a freshman safety out of Fort Lauderdale St. Thomas Aquinas High School, is the only significant Gators player from the area.

Holliday is the second UF assistant to leave this week. Running backs coach Stan Drayton departed Wednesday for a similar job at Tennessee.

[irish_bobcat]

Wow that is surprising. Holliday should be the HC at WVU.

[domerdude]

So who is the biggest threat to ND landing Cyrus besides UF?

[marv81s]

my best guess would be Cal, he is suppose to visit them next weekend, maybe Louisville or Kansas, with their recent success now they could be somewhat of a player. I have never heard him mention Louisville or Kansas in his interviews.

My best guess is Cal, but I think its mostly been between Fla and ND for Gray. With Cullen gone from Fla now, I gotta believe that ND chances have improved

[IrishGrizz]

Come on, CG, we can have an all gray backfield!:)

[mikejND]

I'm sorry but if he goes to Cal, he'll be waiting to see the field. You guys think Cyrus is a burner, they have the kid Jahvid Best who is super fast. He'd have a better shot somewhere else other than Cal IMO.

[domerdude]

Outlined against a cold GRAY october sky....horsemen rode again. Their names are: Aldridge, Houghes, Allen, Gray and........Gray.

[domerdude]

Many Shades of Gray...

[IrishR#1]

Gary Gray converts to QB. All we need is another.

Outlined against a blue-gray October sky, the Four Horsemen rode again. In dramatic lore, they are known as famine, pestilence, destruction, and death. These are only aliases. Their real names are Gray, Gray, Gray, and Gray. We don't know who's who, but they are really good, and they won the game.

[irishunclebill]

Gray did make his visit to Florida this weekend. No word yet on the outcome. He also allegedly told a Dallas paper that he may visit Texas A&M next week instead of California, or he may not make any more visits. Either way it looks as though Cal is out of it for Cyrus.

[irishjay]

i thought he wasn't very keen on A&M? i'm glad to hear that he didn't like UF, but i can't really blame him. he visited UF with like 6 other rb's (one of which "committed"). i could very easily see him choosing the irish

[IrishGrizz]

It only makes sense to go ND.

Of course that is my sense and not CGs.

Come on CG, see my sense!:D

[irishunclebill]

So basically he didnt go to Florida, he isnt going to Visit cal. Texas A+M is getting a last second visit. Is Louisville still in his consideration or is this an Irish vs. Aggies competition now?

Who said he didn't go to Florida?

[irishunclebill]

i thought he wasn't very keen on A&M? i'm glad to hear that he didn't like UF, but i can't really blame him. he visited UF with like 6 other rb's (one of which "committed"). i could very easily see him choosing the irish

Who said he did not like UF on his visit?

Did I miss something that was posted?

[irishjay]

i'm the culprit. i read the thread above my previous one that stated he didn't go to UF and i translated that into he didn't like UF, urbie, or the fact that they lost their RB coach. my fault guys, sorry for the confusion.

[daytonirish]

No confusion, but if you see a post by IUB on the same page as the one your about to reply on. Read his post first,it saves time and you won't get on his bad side. I know this from past experience. :D

[domerdude]

I misread your post IUB. my bad

[irishunclebill]

Cyrus enjoyed his trip to Florida, even rated it a 9 on a scale of 10, but was not otherwise overly enthusiastic about the trip. He did confirm that he has cancelled his visit to California next weekend, and will instead take an Official Visit to Texas A&M to meet the new coaching staff. So I guess A&M replaces Cali in his Top 5. Gray sounded like a kid who is worn out and just about finished with the recruiting process, and is probably going to move his decision announcement date up from 2/2. His feeling that way immediately after a trip to Gainesville where he did not commit to the Gayturds would not give me a warm and fuzzy feeling about him going to Florida if I were a Gator fan. However, putting Texas A&M back in the picture at the last minute might be a signal that Cyrus wants to stay close to home which is obviously not good news for ND fans. My guess is that we will now see the answer to both of those questions before the end of January.

[IrishGrizz]

I quess thats why the staff keeps so many irons in the fire. Here is a good kid possibly worn down by the long recruiting process who could just decide to take the easier choice of the home team (A&M) over a vastly superior university (ND). Oh, well, whatareyagonnado?:confused:

Ya keep trying.

Come on CG, you could be great here!

[irishunclebill]

This is not from the most reliable guy in the world but it does seem to be direct info from Cyrus. He may make his decision this week before he even visits A&M again, and according to this report both Florida & ND are out of it, with the choice to be made between A&M, Kansas, and Louisville. Does not sound good at all if this is correct, but Gray was also visited today by Heywood and Ianello again who will apparently not give up on Cyrus until NSD.

[JDubbs]

Great post IUB. I'm gonna still hold onto some hope. Recruits blow so much smoke these days and I can't blame them, the process must be a grind. So, forgive me everybody if this is old info I missed but when did Cyrus visit? With which other prospective recruits did he visit? Does he have friendships with any Irish commitments?

If its not ND I would like to think it would be Kansas. Not cause I like Kansas (though we fat guys, gotsta stick together!) but to pick A&M without having visited with the new staff. Or to go play for Kragthorpe who crapped the bed with a decent cupboard that Petrino left.

This was a guy I was really hoping for because I want to go back to the days when ND got big Texas talent from Timmy Brown and Bobby Taylor. Now I may be wrong but Tejas is one big recruiting hotbed in which Charlie has not cashed in yet. (I hope I am not forgetting somebody and have just made a fool of myself) He has done the job in Fla, and in the "sowff", great job in Cal, has claimed ownership in the Midwest and making waves in the Mid atl. (pa, nj, va) but the great state of Texas.....the home of steers and queers I think ND needs a big plant the flag type of recruit from Texas. Now I don't think I would classsify CG that way, but a CG on campus makes that plant the flag guy easier to attain IMO. Wow, I talk too much.

[JDubbs]

Just read that. I should not drink and post.

[NDIRISH44]

Great post IUB. I'm gonna still hold onto some hope. Recruits blow so much smoke these days and I can't blame them, the process must be a grind. So, forgive me everybody if this is old info I missed but when did Cyrus visit? With which other prospective recruits did he visit? Does he have friendships with any Irish commitments?

If its not ND I would like to think it would be Kansas. Not cause I like Kansas (though we fat guys, gotsta stick together!) but to pick A&M without having visited with the new staff. Or to go play for Kragthorpe who crapped the bed with a decent cupboard that Petrino left.

This was a guy I was really hoping for because I want to go back to the days when ND got big Texas talent from Timmy Brown and Bobby Taylor. Now I may be wrong but Tejas is one big recruiting hotbed in which Charlie has not cashed in yet. (I hope I am not forgetting somebody and have just made a fool of myself) He has done the job in Fla, and in the "sowff", great job in Cal, has claimed ownership in the Midwest and making waves in the Mid atl. (pa, nj, va) but the great state of Texas.....the home of steers and queers I think ND needs a big plant the flag type of recruit from Texas. Now I don't think I would classsify CG that way, but a CG on campus makes that plant the flag guy easier to attain IMO. Wow, I talk too much.


don't forget about Huntley Bakich bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mikejND]

IUB, you may be right about that guy not being reliable, because on the Florida rivals page, his coach has Florida, ND, and Texas A&M as his finalist. He also insinuated that Florida is likely third in that race. I assume it's an ND or Texas A&M for his services. With all the talk going around, he seems to be headed to A&M, but you never know.

[JDubbs]

don't forget about Huntley Bakich bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That sounds like a cream I rub on my sore muscles.

[Jstehly5511]

http://notredame.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=761719

Forget Florida. I just read an article on Rivals called "A tale of two visits", see above for link. I get the idea that Florida might not even be considered anymore.


Also doesn't look like Gray is going to visit A&M according to his mom.

[RichardRiot]

Who said he didn't go to Florida?



Who said he did not like UF on his visit?

Did I miss something that was posted?


Geez IUB, you better get your facts straight, this thread is turning into an Allen Wallace recruiting article;):D:p

J/K

[irishziggy]

please little baby jesus, let Cyrus come on up to South Bend.

[irishjay]

on rivals the graph of the player's interest in whichever school has gray's interest down between nd and a&m. JS55... did his mommy say that he was going to visit a&m and then decide or completely forgo his visit to a&m?

[Pete]

I saw that he committed to A&M.

http://tamu.scout.com/a.z?s=187&p=2&c=720081&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2ftamu.scout.com%2f2%2f720 081.html

[The Jester]

Somebody, get Knox an offer. Quick!

[irishunclebill]

Somebody, get Knox an offer. Quick!

I'm afraid the fact that Gray was told by ND coaches today that they would recruit him until NSD may mean that Knox's ACT scores did not pass muster. I do not know that for a fact but if what Gray said was correct in that regard as well, unfortunately, the inference is clearly there. Hopefully, I'm reading too much into that and we will see a Knox offer immediately.

[Jstehly5511]

Now it was reported on Rivals that Gray dropped ND and Florida. His 3 favorites are Louisville, Kansas and A&M. What the heck is going on. Coach contradicts what player says. Oh well, guess we wait and see.

[irishziggy]

I really hope we offer/get Knox. I think he's a stud.

[IrishGrizz]

I really hope we offer/get Knox. I think he's a stud.

I'm w IUB- I think it does not bode well w knox and grades. Kind of reminds me of Baldwin when he went w Pitt cause of the test scores. I don't know. I am now telling myself not to expect anymore to the 22 we have now.

That doesn't mean we won't get anymore, or that I still am not pulling for more, just don't expect it to happen. Then if (or when) we do get anymore commits, I will be even happier. :D:):cool::eek:

[irishunclebill]

BTW, the Rivals database does not list Gray as an A&M commit yet because the Rivals A&M recruiting site is saying that Gray will not publicly disclose his choice until late this week, or early next week. It appears that the Aggie Scout site jumped the gun on this last night, but if you read between the lines it is pretty clear that Gray gave the A&M staff his verbal yesterday, he just did not want it disclosed immediately. OOPS, too late now Cyrus.

Sorry to see that Cyrus was not convinced to leave Texas. He is obviously a quality kid as well a solid RB prospect, and part of the reason for his not wanting the announcement made public was so that he could personally tell the other coaches in his final list that he has picked A&M.

[Ricochet]

BTW, the Rivals database does not list Gray as an A&M commit yet because the Rivals A&M recruiting site is saying that Gray will not publicly disclose his choice until late this week, or early next week. It appears that the Aggie Scout site jumped the gun on this last night, but if you read between the lines it is pretty clear that Gray gave the A&M staff his verbal yesterday, he just did not want it disclosed immediately. OOPS, too late now Cyrus.

Sorry to see that Cyrus was not convinced to leave Texas. He is obviously a quality kid as well a solid RB prospect, and part of the reason for his not wanting the announcement made public was so that he could personally tell the other coaches in his final list that he has picked A&M.That may very well be the case and I don't doubt that but from what I've tried to read between the lines as well as what I've overheard elsewhere is that before this supposed commitment that A&M was on the outside looking in and that after the Florida visit that he went back to them and told them that he is once again highly interested in them as well as ND and he would pick between those 2 schools but that the boys over at the Scout A&M site took the contact as that it was a commitment before actually knowing and they ran with that because thats what they believe.

I have no idea whats what with this but why would he eliminate everyone publicly except for ND if he was already and A&M commit? Why not just go public when he wants to go public and keep 5 or 6 schools that he had in mind?

[irishunclebill]

That may very well be the case and I don't doubt that but from what I've tried to read between the lines as well as what I've overheard elsewhere is that before this supposed commitment that A&M was on the outside looking in and that after the Florida visit that he went back to them and told them that he is once again highly interested in them as well as ND and he would pick between those 2 schools but that the boys over at the Scout A&M site took the contact as that it was a commitment before actually knowing and they ran with that because thats what they believe.

I have no idea whats what with this but why would he eliminate everyone publicly except for ND if he was already and A&M commit? Why not just go public when he wants to go public and keep 5 or 6 schools that he had in mind?

I hope you are right that ND might still be in it. The problem that I see with it is that Gray has said that he will make his decision public within a week, but has also said that he now plans to take an Official Visit to A&M after that announcement. So I ask you, why would he make an announcement for a school other than A&M and then go visit A&M. Even in this wacky world of recruiting that makes no sense. As for going public, that is the whole point. He did not want this to go public until he had a chance to notify the other 5 schools, but as you said that communication did not get to the Aggie Scout recruiting site who heard of the story and ran with it. Also, according to the Rivals A&M site he has not publically eliminated Florida either.

The information that I have seen indicates that Cyrus did indeed give A&M his verbal commit last night, and that the upcoming announcement is a mere formality. However, I would be very pleased and thrilled if that information is incorrect.:D

[GoldenShower]

Interesting note that Adrian Bushell (Desoto teammate) of Gray's committed to Florida 1/17. The Florida board that I was looking at has some posters who still think they are in-play for Gray now as a result.

[marv81s]

they are dreaming

This is between A&M and ND that is from Gray himself

he'll be a Aggie in the end.

[irishunclebill]

LOI to Texas A&M.