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Svoboda
06-01-2012, 06:59 PM
Alright, the floor is open for your nominations for the Gold Helmet All-Time Notre Dame Team Halfback. Be sure to include supporting links, videos, what have you to sway votes in your nominee's favor. You may name as many players as you want, but your first player mentioned will serve as your nomination. Nominations will be open until Friday, June 8 and we'll then create a poll to allow everyone to vote on the nominees.

mlcspinner
06-01-2012, 07:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6j_GnIb2pY&feature=related

there are about another 100 RB I could vote for.

KMac151993
06-01-2012, 07:44 PM
Reggie Brooks.

tedwick
06-01-2012, 07:45 PM
Darius Walker. A shifty, chronically under-rated runner and probably the best receiver out of the backfield ND has seen.

Also contemplating Elmer Layden. Sadly, he's technically a fullback and a little before my time.

ND from NE
06-01-2012, 09:02 PM
George Gipp. Legend aside one of the leading career rushers in ND history with 2,341 yards. Acknowledged as one of the greatest college players of his era and given his ability to play defense and punt also known as one of the greatest college football players ever.

NDGirlzRock
06-01-2012, 10:08 PM
All I have to say is look below this comment!!!

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marv81s
06-01-2012, 10:12 PM
Allen Pinkett, dude was about the only bright spot for the team back then. Dude wasn't all that big either, but the dude was tough and rushed for over 1000 yards three straight years, two time all American, and when he left he was ND's all time leading rusher with over 4100 yards.

IrishGrizz
06-02-2012, 07:53 AM
The Bus Jerome Bettis

KMac151993
06-02-2012, 07:58 AM
The Bus Jerome Bettis

Wasn't he always listed as a Fullback?

Svoboda
06-02-2012, 09:07 AM
Wasn't he always listed as a Fullback?
Correct, I'll be voting for him as a fullback myself.

Jiggafini19
06-02-2012, 09:19 AM
1. Autry Denson
2. Darius Walker
3. Reggie Brooks
4. Julius Jones
5. Lee Becton

NDAlumSon
06-02-2012, 09:22 AM
Ricky Watters

step30044
06-02-2012, 09:46 AM
1. Autry Denson
2. Darius Walker
3. Reggie Brooks
4. Julius Jones
5. Lee Becton
Looks good but I would stick Vegas Ferguson in at number 3

isotopes
06-02-2012, 09:54 AM
If I am voting all time, I say Gipp. If I am voting my lifetime, I say Denson.

Irish Joe
06-02-2012, 10:45 AM
Autry Denson!

IrishGrizz
06-02-2012, 11:51 AM
The Bus Jerome Bettis


Wasn't he always listed as a Fullback?


Correct, I'll be voting for him as a fullback myself.

F-in idiot. Thats twice I've balled up nominating - QB and HB. I'll just wait for the real nominations to be made from now on and then vote.

jbrown_9999
06-02-2012, 11:56 AM
I'll admit that he was before my time and I know next to nothing about him but Johnny Lattner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Lattner) should be on the list as the only HB to win the Heisman at ND.

SUBWAYDOMER
06-02-2012, 12:33 PM
I'll admit that he was before my time and I know next to nothing about him but Johnny Lattner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Lattner) should be on the list as the only HB to win the Heisman at ND.

I second that, met him at ND during QB club event, nice guy and great story teller too.

isotopes
06-02-2012, 01:15 PM
He is pretty involved with the ND Club of Chicago and a staple at the golf outing. Very interesting, genuine guy. I believe this year the club actually had a silent auction prize where Lattner stayed at your house for a week...

TexasDomer
06-02-2012, 01:51 PM
John Lattner. Heisman Trophy winner!

ND from NE
06-02-2012, 01:57 PM
If I am voting all time, I say Gipp. If I am voting my lifetime, I say Denson.

great call. I stick with Gipp as my nominee but to break it down that way I'd say Gipp all-time and in my lifetime Vegas Furguson

TexasDomer
06-03-2012, 01:05 PM
Gipp was my first pick. I'm trying to fight against the "recency bias," where we tend to pick what we've seen in our own times. If you look at the stats relative to the era, Gipp was an incredible athlete when HBs were taking the snaps out of the single wing. He did virtually everything but sell popcorn.

Jiggafini19
06-04-2012, 02:27 PM
Ricky Watters

Crap. How did I forget him...

1. Denson
2. Watters
3. Walker
4. Brooks
5. Jones


Looks good but I would stick Vegas Ferguson in at number 3

In my lifetime, too young to recall.

grantland
06-04-2012, 04:26 PM
Jack Chevigny

Maybe not the greatest, but a cool one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Chevigny

grantland
06-04-2012, 04:29 PM
Wasn't Paul Hornung a half back?

grantland
06-04-2012, 04:31 PM
Another neat one:

Curly Lambeau

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curly_Lambeau

grantland
06-04-2012, 04:33 PM
Allen Pinkett

TexasDomer
06-04-2012, 04:35 PM
Watters is a bit confusing because he was at turns a RB or a FL, depending on the year and the formation.

IrishDodger
06-04-2012, 05:15 PM
1. Brooks
2. Lattner
3. tie-Pinkett
3. tie-Ferguson
5. Julius Jones


Lattner should probably be #1 but most of us are too young to remember him. Pinkett & Jones played on some horrific teams but were fun to watch. I left Watters off b/c he played a lot at flanker, too. May as well include Rocket if we're gonna include Watters.

tedwick
06-04-2012, 05:20 PM
Wasn't Paul Hornung a half back?Technically a halfback, but lead the team in passing. Probably more a quarterback using modern definitions, rather than going off of where they lined up.

Svoboda
06-04-2012, 11:56 PM
You guys follow directions about as well as my 11 year old. LMAO.

ACamp1900
06-05-2012, 01:28 AM
Denson... No doubt

Svoboda
06-05-2012, 08:59 AM
Gipp was my first pick. I'm trying to fight against the "recency bias," where we tend to pick what we've seen in our own times. If you look at the stats relative to the era, Gipp was an incredible athlete when HBs were taking the snaps out of the single wing. He did virtually everything but sell popcorn.
On the flip side, you can also go the other way with recency bias and pick older players because you don't truly appreciate what you see. I honestly believe that only a handful of players from the past would be standouts today. There is too much specialization, year round lifting and conditioning, camps, 7-on-7 stuff and the like where kids can become really, really proficient at their position.

TexasDomer
06-05-2012, 09:17 AM
By that same token, if today's players didn't have the training table, camps, etc., would they be as effective had they played in the 1940s or 50s?

I think you have to look at players relative to their eras.

Svoboda
06-05-2012, 09:28 AM
By that same token, if today's players didn't have the training table, camps, etc., would they be as effective had they played in the 1940s or 50s?

I think you have to look at players relative to their eras.
Yeah, I do. I think natural progression of society has led to a bigger, stronger, faster population as a whole. When I take Tanner up to his high school, the folks just look different then the kids I went to HS with just 20 years ago. I do agree, however, that you need to look at players relative to their era.

KMac151993
06-05-2012, 09:33 AM
We are just bigger and stronger as a society, evolution of a sort - just like that generation was bigger than the previous.

jerseyborn1971
06-05-2012, 09:43 AM
Have to look at the era. In almost any sport, the greats from the 40's, 50's, 60's 70's and even 80's wouldn't compete with today's athletes.

Sparks inda Loo
06-05-2012, 04:42 PM
I'm comfortable enough with my manhood to say, "I love me some Lee Becton". He had that one great signature move. He'd run right at the defense and if they over committed (like Freakin' Alabama) he'd do that stiff legged plant, cut back and get pass them. I would watch him get by the line and just wait, wait, wait... and then I'd stomp my foot when he planted his foot and the defender over ran him.

Did the opposing teams not have scouts? Everybody in the stadium knew what was coming and still he'd do "the move" and gain another ten yards or just run somebody over.