Strictly rumor from campus

[The Army Awakens]

I have heard from very good authority that Etienne Sabino and Jeremy Brown will commit on their visit...

Now the running back situation... If Gray shows up before Williams he would only have until August 6th to commit because of Williams implicating on wanting to bring his mom with him for his visit in order to see CW...

Walker still may not have an offer as I am hearing that the staff thinks we still have a major shot at Brice Butler and we all know how Baldwin feels... Its down to us and Pitt I hear...

And Trevor could possibly pull the trigger around August 1st... Even though that is strictly from a source outside the family and he only talked to scout yesterday about very little information concerning when and where...

[mlcspinner]

thanks for the info, it all sound very good

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Thanx TAA. Good post.

[ND Fanatic]

Thanks for the info TAA, sounds like an interesting couple of weeks coming up.

[The New Louis]

do work AA

[Double_Domer]

Thanks. Looks promising.:)

[NDisNCin2010]

thanks for the info Army Awakens, great work!...
the Butler angle is intriguing to say the least. guess we'll know soon enough on him.
based on what you know, do you think the "first to commit" of the RB's out of C Thomas/Gray/Williams will bump the others out of the class? did C Thomas say he is not going to decide until October?

i always look forward to your posts. good to see another DD refugee over here...

[therizz]

Thanks AA. Keep posting and forget about work! =)

Only six more days until everyone knows what B Butler is truly thinking...

[Fishin'_Irish]

Informative post to say the least TAA. I think the surprise there is the Butler situation. I had all but assumed we weren't getting him.

[ND Fanatic]

do you think the "first to commit" of the RB's out of C Thomas/Gray/Williams will bump the others out of the class? did C Thomas say he is not going to decide until October?


I see this as a one RB only class, so the first to commit will get the spot - the other two are going to be shut out

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I have heard from very good authority that Etienne Sabino and Jeremy Brown will commit on their visit...

Now the running back situation... If Gray shows up before Williams he would only have until August 6th to commit because of Williams implicating on wanting to bring his mom with him for his visit in order to see CW...

Walker still may not have an offer as I am hearing that the staff thinks we still have a major shot at Brice Butler and we all know how Baldwin feels... Its down to us and Pitt I hear...

And Trevor could possibly pull the trigger around August 1st... Even though that is strictly from a source outside the family and he only talked to scout yesterday about very little information concerning when and where...

Wait a second here, If we think Floyd is a heavy lean (and most of us believe he will pull the trigger eventually), and we have a major shot at Butler AND Baldwin......why the heck are we giving an offer to Brown? I'm not sure I understand, but then again, rumors don't always have to make sense. Plus, there's Walker to at least consider. Although that probably is a pipe dream.

[The New Louis]

Lets say floyd is in the fold. That leaves us with Jermey brown, bladwin, butler, and potentially walker as targets. I think JB commits on his visit and who ever jumps on next is it for this class at WR. Whether that be baldwin, butler or walker no one seems to know. In my opinion you can't go wrong with anyone of them.

[NDisNCin2010]

maybe J Brown is a "backup" plan for WR in the nightmare scenario of neither Floyd, Baldwin, Butler, Walker choosing ND.
if one of these guys commits, (likely Floyd) then JBrown could then be put in at WR or DB. just one mans opinion, see what happens with the rest of the WR's.
although most folks saying Floyd "will be Irish" just never know until the kid says it...and we really need him to!

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I don't think we need 4 WR. I would prefer Goodman, Floyd, and one of the other three aside from Brown. Now, Brown could be a safety net for the D (trip to europe for one of our guys), or maybe CW doesn't have a warm fuzzy for the others aside from Floyd.

[scooper]

Wait a second here, If we think Floyd is a heavy lean (and most of us believe he will pull the trigger eventually), and we have a major shot at Butler AND Baldwin......why the heck are we giving an offer to Brown? I'm not sure I understand, but then again, rumors don't always have to make sense. Plus, there's Walker to at least consider. Although that probably is a pipe dream.

Because the coaches, unlike some message board posters, like Brown. Let's say they do get Floyd and way down the line, Baldwin. And, let's say as some expect, Brown verbals on his upcoming visit. Brown can simply come in as an athlete and fill in as needed. At WR, he would give a skillset that nobody else in this class offers. Same goes at DB. It's never a bad idea to fill your roster with contrasting styles.

I just can't get why people don't want this guy when apperently somewhere inside the Gug, Charlie and Corwin are having a tug-of-war over which side of the ball gets him if he commits. They see something they like in the guy. They're letting him him visit on his own dime and he has had an offer for quite some time.

Let's face it, the Notre Dame coaches want him. We can throw out all the "plan B" and "if there's room" scenarios all we want, but he may be Irish long before some of our own designated plan A's make their decisions.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I think he will be Irish, and I will welcome him because of it. I guess my heart would lie with another top receiver. We'll see how it all unfolds.

[ND Fanatic]

I think he will be Irish, and I will welcome him because of it. I guess my heart would lie with another top receiver. We'll see how it all unfolds.

As said earlier, he may come in at DB to fill in for McNeils pending trip to Rome due to the architecture program.

[daytonirish]

With the way recruiting is going I'm just going to sit back and enjoy who ever else comes aboard. Would love to have both Sabino and Brown commit on there visit.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Amen brother. (Can't wait for the crosstown shootout)

[rontdtarchala]

I still expect several surprizes...its been way exciting so far I simply don't see it changing...

[HoyaIrish]

At WR, he would give a skillset that nobody else in this class offers.

I don't know much about Brown, or any of these guys for that matter. What skills do you see in him that you don't see in Floyd, Butler, Baldwin, Goodman, etc.?

[Fishin'_Irish]

Because the coaches, unlike some message board posters, like Brown. Let's say they do get Floyd and way down the line, Baldwin. And, let's say as some expect, Brown verbals on his upcoming visit. Brown can simply come in as an athlete and fill in as needed. At WR, he would give a skillset that nobody else in this class offers. Same goes at DB. It's never a bad idea to fill your roster with contrasting styles.

I just can't get why people don't want this guy when apperently somewhere inside the Gug, Charlie and Corwin are having a tug-of-war over which side of the ball gets him if he commits. They see something they like in the guy. They're letting him him visit on his own dime and he has had an offer for quite some time.

Let's face it, the Notre Dame coaches want him. We can throw out all the "plan B" and "if there's room" scenarios all we want, but he may be Irish long before some of our own designated plan A's make their decisions.

Great post, and I couldn't agree more. If we have coaches fighting over where to use him, I think that's a great sign. We've been missing pure, versatile athletes on the team the past few years, and it's something we need more of still. This guy can, and will, contribute wherever the coaches put him.

[The Army Awakens]

I think J. Brown will play defense... He 's a playmaker at DB...

But all that depends in my opinion only if Butler commits... That would give us the speed guy to go along with Floyd that CW is looking for...

Would he choose Brown for receiver if Butler is the most polished receiver he's seen this year... I mean I really think he may choose the Irish...

Everyone thinks that since he is friends with EJ Manuel that he will automatically go to FSU... He is friends with J. Slaughter as well... Knows about all the qbs at ND by name... Knows the depth chart at all three schools... And sees the NFL pedigree at all three schools as well... Its definitely going to be a tough decision...
At one point after the spring game... He was ready to commit also told J. Sapp at B&G the same thing... I'm not 100% giving up on BB...

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Butler......could be FSU baby. That may be why Brown is even an option.

[Troy's Enterprise Pride]

We've been missing pure, versatile athletes on the team the past few years, and it's something we need more of still.


yeah, but thank goodness we were lucky enough to get anthony vernaglia. man, now THERE is a valuable ATH.

[Troy's Enterprise Pride]

I have heard from very good authority that Etienne Sabino and Jeremy Brown will commit on their visit...

i've heard the same on J Brown. I would be shocked to see Sabino pull the trigger so early, and on his first visit, but i'd be really happy if he did.



Now the running back situation... If Gray shows up before Williams he would only have until August 6th to commit because of Williams implicating on wanting to bring his mom with him for his visit in order to see CW...

i think RW is our man. he's our #1 back on the board. i'd say he's our 1 out of the 3.... but he has to hurry so he doesn't miss the train.



Walker still may not have an offer as I am hearing that the staff thinks we still have a major shot at Brice Butler and we all know how Baldwin feels... Its down to us and Pitt I hear...

i've heard the same about Baldwin, but we can't ignore Pitt here... Wanny is an excelent recruiter.



And Trevor could possibly pull the trigger around August 1st... Even though that is strictly from a source outside the family and he only talked to scout yesterday about very little information concerning when and where...

i still think he's all irish.

[scooper]

yeah, but thank goodness we were lucky enough to get anthony vernaglia. man, now THERE is a valuable ATH.


Yes, versatile athletes are a terrible idea. Thank God they passed on the Justin Tuck kid.

[scooper]

I don't know much about Brown, or any of these guys for that matter. What skills do you see in him that you don't see in Floyd, Butler, Baldwin, Goodman, etc.?


The others are bigger, taller long strider get down the field types-which ND desperately needs and appears to be sitting well with these (with already having Goodman.

Brown is more of a shifty, slot WR type. We have a few on the roster, but they will be up in class level by the time this group hits the roster.

[The Army Awakens]

Thats not all true... Butler runs a 4.4 40 and is only 6'2.... he would play slot

[robdog_5]

I am not sure ND is even Butler's top 3, he maybe but from everything out of his mouth on the recruiting sites latley. He could pull a shocker but I highly doubt it. Baldwin I like the chances but he very easily could want to stay home. Then you have Walker and realistically we don't have a good shot, the kid has tons of offers, it's almost Augest and we haven't offered yet and we are just one of the 20 or so schools he just visited. So IMHO I think it will be important to take Brown as a slot WR if he jumps on board this weekend.

[scooper]

Thats not all true... Butler runs a 4.4 40 and is only 6'2.... he would play slot

I should have broken Butler out with Brown, but I neglected him due to not thinking we have the chance you seem to think. No offense, I just don't consider Butler at this point in the WR talk. I hope you're right. I just don't see it.

[NDGirlzRock]

Hey I hear that this guy named Tim Brown wants to come to ND!!!!

[Fishin'_Irish]

Hey I hear that this guy named Tim Brown wants to come to ND!!!!

Nah, he's all SMU.

[IrishKnight1023]

I'd be very suprised to Sabino committed this weekend after the staff told him he'd have an offer no matter what. Once again people dog on Jeremy for God knows what reason. Baldwin is deciding on NSD, thats his own problem he knows spots are limited and waiting until NSD for anybody to FILL a slot is ludacris. Good info TAA, this Sabino prediction if came true will wipe the Hale thing out of my memory.

[mudskipper]

Sabino and Brown would be great, I'm thinking we'll only take 23 if transfers or injuries don't materialize. Hoping for 1 more O-line, Robinson ? and WR. Floyd. I read that another posters take on J. Brown being able to paly WR or CB, given that Walls has that one year obligation in Italy, so covering two possible needs. I'm assuming like everyone a slow play on other offers based on what happens this season, but I feel Charlie will hold that carrot of two possibly three scholies for those on the roster busting their hump for ND.

[IrishCalves]

Sabino and Brown would be great, I'm thinking we'll only take 23 if transfers or injuries don't materialize. Hoping for 1 more O-line, Robinson ? and WR. Floyd. I read that another posters take on J. Brown being able to paly WR or CB, given that Walls has that one year obligation in Italy, so covering two possible needs. I'm assuming like everyone a slow play on other offers based on what happens this season, but I feel Charlie will hold that carrot of two possibly three scholies for those on the roster busting their hump for ND.

I think you meant to say McNeil. He's the architecture major, not Walls.

[mudskipper]

Thanks for the correction my bad.:)

[rontdtarchala]

I'll take them both with a major smile on my face...wich I need after listening to mark (Ihavemyheadupmy...) may say we would be 1-7 after eight...(spits on floor several times)...

[Fishin'_Irish]

I'll take them both with a major smile on my face...wich I need after listening to mark (Ihavemyheadupmy...) may say we would be 1-7 after eight...(spits on floor several times)...

Remember last time he predicted this?

[marv81s]

everyone makes mistakes, he did say it was strictly a rumor

[HoffVir]

Yeah he did

[bostonirish1908]

sweet info AA, does anyone know what is going on with domer domain right now?

[Fishin'_Irish]

Server problems, apparently.

[YoungIrish]

New member..Im always checking out DD and GH...figured I would finally join and try to give some of my insight...Since I check both sites atleast 100 times a day..no joke..i know its sad..I guess I should post some..and hopefully DD can get up and running soon..but I do like this site alot...

[mlcspinner]

welcome to GH

[stonebreakerwasgod]

New member..Im always checking out DD and GH...figured I would finally join and try to give some of my insight...Since I check both sites atleast 100 times a day..no joke..i know its sad..I guess I should post some..and hopefully DD can get up and running soon..but I do like this site alot...

You'll fit right in.

[Axl Rose]

As said earlier, he may come in at DB to fill in for McNeils pending trip to Rome due to the architecture program.

Is McNeil taking a year off a done deal? I remember hearing that he may have switched Majors?

[IrishCalves]

Is McNeil taking a year off a done deal? I remember hearing that he may have switched Majors?

We'll know more when they update the player profiles on the official website for Notre Dame athletics. Right now it still says, "enrolled in first year of studies," which still leaves us in the dark about his major.

[Soko]

Brown will be a corner, I have no doubts on that. He'll be a very good one as well

[NDGirlzRock]

Welcome to GH Soko! Yeah I think Jeremy will end up as a nickel back.

[NDgrandson]

TAA, is this a double or nothing prediction? I know you prefaced it with "rumor" but after EJ, I am surprised you are making such a bold prediction. Now that you have, you might want to be right. If not, you will have next to no credibility. I know you are a huge ND fan and your opinions are yours to share. If you are right, it becomes the scene from Dumb and Dumber when Lloyd buys the mo-ped with the last of their money and Harry says, "Just when I thought you couldn't do anything dumber, you do this... AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!"

Sabino and Baldwin are my co #1 wants. You say Sabino to verbal on visit, and we lead with Baldwin over just Pitt. That is a BOLD statement. I hope you are right almost as much as you hope you are right. I thought Sabino could be months before we hear. We'll see.

[therizz]

Grandson, I truly appreciate the humble insights that AA brings to the Helmet. He made one mistake about Hale and has been right about all of the other commits in the last three months. Give him a break. He made a huge disclaimer about the rumor on Sabino and Brown and it makes for great discussion.

[YoungIrish]

Sabino giving a verbal on this visit...could be HUGE...b/c it wraps up the defense recruiting for the year pretty much...

[NDisNCin2010]

i agree, i mean isnt the point of this site to let our fellow ND fanatics know what we are hearing on ND football and guys we are recruiting?
TAA's posts and insights are prolly the ones i look forward to most on here and over at DD and have proven out WAY more often than not, and are very interesting. and the guy takes an absolute POUNDING at DD, due to a case of mistaken identity in his source thought EJ was Hale, when EJ stood up in class on his visit and said hes comin, so no big deal. my god boys, this is recruiting, things change all the time, info is breaking like wildfire (like thenews of Forston committing to Miami, ot O Hunter pulling trigger for us-who of us saw that coming?)
im just tired of seeing folks who offer up what they know get harangued if what they say isnt a 100% lock...lets not kill all the messengers.
GO IRISH!

[napoleonbuck]

I don't think Sabino would commit on the visit. He's visiting Ohio State right after, and he's already planned a visit to USC IIRC.

[ND Fanatic]

fellow ND fanatics know what we are hearing on ND football

You mean theres more than one of me....:eek:

[therizz]

Well put Cincy. Keep posting.

[goirish41]

i agree, i mean isnt the point of this site to let our fellow ND fanatics know what we are hearing on ND football and guys we are recruiting?
TAA's posts and insights are prolly the ones i look forward to most on here and over at DD and have proven out WAY more often than not, and are very interesting. and the guy takes an absolute POUNDING at DD, due to a case of mistaken identity in his source thought EJ was Hale, when EJ stood up in class on his visit and said hes comin, so no big deal. my god boys, this is recruiting, things change all the time, info is breaking like wildfire (like thenews of Forston committing to Miami, ot O Hunter pulling trigger for us-who of us saw that coming?)
im just tired of seeing folks who offer up what they know get harangued if what they say isnt a 100% lock...lets not kill all the messengers.
GO IRISH!

Yes, and I can't remember a more entertaining and exciting day on the boards when everyone thought maybe, just maybe, that TAA was right about Hale. There had to be more people on the boards that day than anytime in recent history. so he was mistaken. That was a fun day.

[irish21]

^^Yea that was a fun day online. TAA is a good poster and he sticks his neck out with some of these rumors. Cut him some slack.

[NDisNCin2010]

You mean theres more than one of me....:eek:

(insert Irish41 Dr Evil avatar here) "BILLIONS!"

[irishziggy]

i agree, i mean isnt the point of this site to let our fellow ND fanatics know what we are hearing on ND football and guys we are recruiting?
TAA's posts and insights are prolly the ones i look forward to most on here and over at DD and have proven out WAY more often than not, and are very interesting. and the guy takes an absolute POUNDING at DD, due to a case of mistaken identity in his source thought EJ was Hale, when EJ stood up in class on his visit and said hes comin, so no big deal. my god boys, this is recruiting, things change all the time, info is breaking like wildfire (like thenews of Forston committing to Miami, ot O Hunter pulling trigger for us-who of us saw that coming?)
im just tired of seeing folks who offer up what they know get harangued if what they say isnt a 100% lock...lets not kill all the messengers.
GO IRISH!

mistaken identity was the excuse that some posters gave him, b/c they said (they do look alike). the way he gave his source, it seemed like he was in the know (not mistaken identity). that he knew it was a "silent" verbal, and it might not come out for sometime and that if Hale visited any other places we would know it wasnt true. Mistaken identity of a guy standing up in class is totally different. That's kind of giving him credit for EJ by saying mistaken identity. Do i love his info? absolutely, but lets not say his source was credible b/c of "mistaken identity". it certainly was not the case. TAA swung and missed and it happens to the best of us. keep posting ur info, we enjoy.

[IrishCalves]

If you view the purpose of a message board and a poster to be similar to that of a newspaper, then you're going to want to grill TAA, for posting inaccurate rumors without revealing his so called "sources". If you think that way, you're probably saying, "He's just making s*** up, and using whatever pay service subscriptions he's got to base his hair brained ideas/posts off of."

If you view the purpose of a board to be entertaining, and get people talking, then you love the personality and the excitement that surrounds a TAA rumor. If you think that way, you're probably thinking to yourself, "It was just a slip up, things like that happen. Probably was just mistaken identity. And even at that, no harm no foul - nobody died because of it; it created more good than bad in the end if you ask me."

You can't expect everyone to be a bullet proof "journalist", since a) its not like it's any free message board poster's job/career and b) its recruiting for God's sake; everyone is bound to slip up every once in a while in this fast and loose world of information.

But at the same time, people look to these boards for credible information. You can't get anywhere if you're in a constant state of rumor mongering, that never turns out to be true. Hence we sit here and laugh at GBW, for their "silent commits", and some of their lesser posters that think they "dodged a bullet" when a kid commits to ND over UM.

Its finding that elusive balance between journalistic integrity, and entertainment value. Where you stand on that pendulum is entirely an individual choice. Off the soap box for now.

[rontdtarchala]

makes much sense calves...very good read thanks

[The Army Awakens]

Today's update on Sabino says that he is really enjoying his visit thus far and that he is driving down to OSU this weekend and said something to extent of if OSU doesn't blow my mind expect me back in couple of days on his way back to Chicago...


That again is strictly the rumor circling campus...

[daytonirish]

thanks TAA after reading his quote on II the wire I think we get good news from him very shortly.