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NDgrandson
04-29-2010, 06:20 PM
With the consensus being that we take just one, who should we and who will be get? How close is Justice Hayes to giving a verbal anyways? Do we lead with any of the others?

Justice Hayes
Savon Huggins
Mike Bellamy
Malcolm Brown
Aaron Green

Which one fits our offense the best?

Jiggafini19
04-29-2010, 06:54 PM
I'd love to have Bellamy, but I feel they get Hayes.

NDgrandson
04-29-2010, 06:58 PM
Jigga's avatar reminds me of Kirk Cameron and Steven Segal. I don't know who those guys are. Actually, is the guy on the right Mickey Rourke?

theman
04-29-2010, 07:07 PM
I don't think we take one due to the fact that we probably won't get one. Playing time will be hard to come by and that is what the players nowadays are looking for. Would love Bellamy or Green, but who are we kidding? Those are complete pipe dreams.

Bellamy=Clemson
Green=Nebraska

NotreDameNate
04-29-2010, 08:05 PM
I don't think we take one due to the fact that we probably won't get one. Playing time will be hard to come by and that is what the players nowadays are looking for. Would love Bellamy or Green, but who are we kidding? Those are complete pipe dreams.

Bellamy=Clemson
Green=Nebraska

Never stopped USC from having 29 5* RB's... ok, maybe 29 is an exaggeration, but 5 or 6 isn't. I don't think these kids shy away from competition much anymore.

Jiggafini19
04-29-2010, 08:08 PM
Jigga's avatar reminds me of Kirk Cameron and Steven Segal. I don't know who those guys are. Actually, is the guy on the right Mickey Rourke?

Yes.

The guy on the left is Eric Roberts.

Pope of Greenwich Village. My favorite movie of all time.

Jiggafini19
04-29-2010, 08:12 PM
I don't think we take one due to the fact that we probably won't get one. Playing time will be hard to come by and that is what the players nowadays are looking for. Would love Bellamy or Green, but who are we kidding? Those are complete pipe dreams.

Bellamy=Clemson
Green=Nebraska

One way or another, they'll get a running back in this class. Hughes and Allen graduate after this season. That leaves them with Wood, Gray and Roberson.

I'd still like to see them enter the Jameel Poteat sweepstakes, and there is always Remound Wright down the road at Dwenger if they find him worthy of an offer.

Dacian_Irish
04-29-2010, 10:03 PM
They need to go after a guy that can play RB/WR... kinda like a Riddick type player with much versatility. Lets face it we don't really know how BK's offense is gonna be run yet. He ran that offense at cincy because that gave him the best opportunity to win. I think he realizes that we are very talented at that the RB position and we are very thin at QB too. I personally think we run the ball more than people expect out of necessity. We need a speedy type RB in this class!

zimmsbg78
04-30-2010, 07:09 AM
I want Savon Huggins or Rodney Coe...........It's a 1a or 1b situation........I have stated this many times. These two have it all. I think in the end our best chance is Hayes. Watch out for Sparty with Hayes though. MSU will be a pain in the ass with our current Michigan targets.

7inLimp
04-30-2010, 11:54 AM
we dont need a RB in this class...so i dont think we will be putting much efforts into closing out on one.

morrdave9
04-30-2010, 11:59 AM
I think we do, but it could be someone like George Atkinson III would could also play WR to get some PT a la Riddick and move to RB later on.

wicket
04-30-2010, 12:00 PM
we dont need a RB in this class...so i dont think we will be putting much efforts into closing out on one.

we kinda do, we lose allen and hughes and would only be left with jonas gray, cierre wood and cameron roberson. Thats not enough in my book

irishunclebill
04-30-2010, 12:26 PM
we kinda do, we lose allen and hughes and would only be left with jonas gray, cierre wood and cameron roberson. Thats not enough in my book

Absolutely agree. More importantly so does the ND staff who are definitely planning on recruiting a RB for this class.

7inLimp
04-30-2010, 12:27 PM
we kinda do, we lose allen and hughes and would only be left with jonas gray, cierre wood and cameron roberson. Thats not enough in my book

4 tbs are not enough in your book when we are only going to use one 95% of the time in our offense? um, ok.

eta: theo is a TB first, remember this...

7inLimp
04-30-2010, 12:28 PM
Absolutely agree. More importantly so does the ND staff who are definitely planning on recruiting a RB for this class.

link?

i do not see us going after RBs hard in this class....most of our efforts have been on the line.

i get the impression we will take the 5* guy, but if he isnt there, it is not a big deal.

especially since roberson is going to red shirt.

wicket
04-30-2010, 12:31 PM
4 tbs are not enough in your book when we are only going to use one 95% of the time in our offense?

um, ok.

nope 3 is not enough when you quite often use 2. (since there are no fullback anymore but BK does use two back sets'

Besides getting solid production from he running back position is one of the most vital things for BK´s offense to work. BK usually works with a two/three man committee at the back and when you need all your backs to work out your doing something wrong. The running back position is to important and they can be moved to D easily enough ever to pass up on one

7inLimp
04-30-2010, 12:35 PM
nope 3 is not enough when you quite often use 2. (since there are no fullback anymore but BK does use two back sets'

Besides getting solid production from he running back position is one of the most vital things for BK´s offense to work. BK usually works with a two/three man committee at the back and when you need all your backs to work out your doing something wrong.

um, first of all, no he doesnt. two at the most has always been his preference. the best players constantly get the playing time with BK

secondly...i do not feel the necessity to settle on a running back in this class.

like i said, if a 5* comes along, great!

if not, i would rather wait for the 5* next class while we can sell the playing time card.

i guess we can agree to disagree, but i have a sneaking suspicion the staff feels the same.

lowayne
04-30-2010, 01:32 PM
It only takes one injury to mess things up. Jacking Theo between positions is not a recipe for success either. We need 1 more RB capable player.

Jiggafini19
05-01-2010, 08:07 AM
It only takes one injury to mess things up. Jacking Theo between positions is not a recipe for success either. We need 1 more RB capable player.

Or a transfer. Or cut too loud a fart within earshot of Resident Life.

Don't forget, Kelly did not recruit these guys, he inherited them. He's going to want to get his own kids in here, especially considering how top heavy ND is on their roster right now. The freshman and sophomore classes aren't nearly as good as the current juniors and seniors. It doesn't take much to see the well run dry quick. Look what happened to us at tight end. Reuland, Yeatman and Fauria all gone inside of a couple of years with Ragone injured.

You load up and try to get one guy each year. Since he took 3 QB in 2010, I don't necessarily see a sense of urgency for a QB in 2011, but they're going to take one. I'd get that running back too.

eric_navy
05-01-2010, 09:26 AM
if not, i would rather wait for the 5* next class while we can sell the playing time card.



That attitude is what got CW in trouble with D-linemen. He put all his eggs in too few baskets and ended up in a big hole in February. You never know how guys are going to turn out once you get them in the rotation. Kelly is pretty high on Roberson, but he may not pan out the way we are hoping. You have to have options, especially at an injury-prone position.

Keeping 3 RB's in an offense where you often use 2 at a time is like having 8 Olinemen on scholarship. You could get by with that if they were all good players, but it's not ideal.

SpanishElite
05-01-2010, 09:32 AM
That attitude is what got CW in trouble with D-linemen. He put all his eggs in too few baskets and ended up in a big hole in February. You never know how guys are going to turn out once you get them in the rotation. Kelly is pretty high on Roberson, but he may not pan out the way we are hoping. You have to have options, especially at an injury-prone position.

Keeping 3 RB's in an offense where you often use 2 at a time is like having 8 Olinemen on scholarship. You could get by with that if they were all good players, but it's not ideal.

I agree. 3 RBs just isnt enough. With Wood, Gray and Roberson being alone for 2011. You want to make sure you can build depth, thats why you want to bring in some young guys so they can learn from the older guys and not be in a position where they HAVE to be force in a playing roll right away. I dont want to "wait for a 5*" when there maybe plenty of talented back we have offered this year in the 3-4* range.

lowayne
05-01-2010, 09:56 AM
I agree. 3 RBs just isnt enough. With Wood, Gray and Roberson being alone for 2011. You want to make sure you can build depth, thats why you want to bring in some young guys so they can learn from the older guys and not be in a position where they HAVE to be force in a playing roll right away. I dont want to "wait for a 5*" when there maybe plenty of talented back we have offered this year in the 3-4* range.

A 5* is nothing without a good line and a good line can make a 4* outperform a 5*. We have a great OL class and we need someone running behind it.

notredomer23
05-01-2010, 10:06 AM
um, first of all, no he doesnt. two at the most has always been his preference. the best players constantly get the playing time with BK

secondly...i do not feel the necessity to settle on a running back in this class.

like i said, if a 5* comes along, great!

if not, i would rather wait for the 5* next class while we can sell the playing time card.

i guess we can agree to disagree, but i have a sneaking suspicion the staff feels the same.

your wrong. sorry.

eric_navy
05-01-2010, 12:49 PM
like i said, if a 5* comes along, great!

if not, i would rather wait for the 5* next class while we can sell the playing time card.

i guess we can agree to disagree, but i have a sneaking suspicion the staff feels the same.

We have offered 5 RB's so far in this cycle, which indicates that the staff would like to bringing in at least 1. If it was a position of urgent need, they probably would have offered more, but with other positions of greater need and a limited number of openings, you are probably right that they MIGHT take a pass at that spot, but only if none of their top targets are interested and they are able to fill out the class at other positions of need.

Legacy
05-06-2010, 12:07 AM
Jameel Poteat has been offered per ISD and Scout.

irishmarine
05-06-2010, 02:17 AM
Kelly seems content with some of the takent and youth at that position but I dint think he is gonna let talent slip by and not address the position. He is a great teacher and with the talent ge has brought in I think he can make these young runningbacks look like 5* rb's even if they are 3 or 4stars.

Bobby67
05-06-2010, 05:19 PM
Once BK starts to win we will have our pick of running backs, and win he will. The thunder is on the way. Get ready Irish fans.

DirtySecret
05-06-2010, 05:46 PM
Once BK starts to win we will have our pick of running backs, and win he will. The thunder is on the way. Get ready Irish fans.

Wish I had your optimism.. I'm more of a wait and see kind of guy..

7inLimp
05-06-2010, 05:59 PM
your wrong. sorry.

link?

7inLimp
05-06-2010, 06:01 PM
Jameel Poteat has been offered per ISD and Scout.

fringe 5*...

notice we have only offered elite players at this position and we still are being quite selective..hmmmm.

eric_navy
05-06-2010, 08:35 PM
fringe 5*...

notice we have only offered elite players at this position and we still are being quite selective..hmmmm.

I think the point being made is that several RB offers have been made. That is either 6 or 7 offers out to RB's now. Considering there are roughly 100 offers, that is about the percentage of actual players on the team that would play that position. There is not much sense of urgency, but nor is the position being ignored.