'08 VA WR Deion Walker (1/5/08 Notre Dame LOI)

[Bull Rush]

Wide Receiver
Christchurch School ( http://www.christchurchschool.org/Default.asp?bhcp=1
) (Christchurch, VA)

Ht: 6-foot-4
Wt: 186 lbs
Forty: 4.43
GPA: 3.4
ACT: 21

Links of Interest: Rivals Profile (http://notredame.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=57376)

Combine:
Bench Max: 225 lbs.
Squat Max: 435 lbs.
Vertical: 37 inches
Shuttle: 4.2 secs.

Star Ratings
Rivals.com: ****
Scout.com: ****

Rankings & Accolades
Rivals 250 #179 Rivals #25 National WR Rivals VA Top 30- #7
Scout 100 #58 Scout National WR #11
ESPN 150 #103 ESPN National WR #18
Lemming/CSTV 100 #76
RISE 100 #56


Statistics
2006- 47 Receptions, 732 Yards, 8 TD’s
2007-

Schools of Interest:
Auburn
Boston College
Clemson
Florida
Florida State
LSU
Michigan
Nebraska
NC State
Notre Dame (LOI) Official Visit 11/2/07
Penn State
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas A&M
Virginia
USC


Deion & his father made a tour of the Midwest last week stopping at scUM last Monday, South Bend on Tuesday, and Nebraska on Wednesday. All of the schools in Deion’s Schools of Interest have offered except Notre Dame, although Scout now lists him as having an ND offer.

[IrishKnight1023]

He is a five star WR according to Rivals. He goes to a private school in VA. He's 6 feet 4, 186lbs. and his forty time is 4.43 sec.

He is currently visting Michiagn today and will be in South Bend tomorrow. It sounds like it's a F$U/U$C/L$U battle, but you never know when a recuit comes to South Bend after coming from Michigan. ;)

-------Nce info, lets see if he gets an offer tomorrow? His visit means the staff is still on him and it's not like he's not an elite talent. I don't think we can just hope for Baldwin to decide to be Irish on NSD and not have one other top option. I'd be in favor of an offer and him to commit before Baldwin does.

[scooper]

Wow. I didn't realize he was visiting. Thanks.

[irish21]

Im not getting my hopess up with him. We havent been recruiting the Maryland-DC-Virginia area real well. I guess anything is possible if we get him on campus.

[IrishKnight1023]

Im not getting my hopess up with him. We havent been recruiting the Maryland-DC-Virginia area real well. I guess anything is possible if we get him on campus.

----Lane Clelland didn't seem to mind us not having a Maryland pipeline. Notre Dame recruits where they want when they want. Notre Dame doesn't ask prospect to come to ND, the prospects ask to come to ND. When Notre Dame does push ups on the ground, Notre Dame pushes the Earth down.

[rontdtarchala]

like that IK

[stonebreakerwasgod]

That's deep.

[rontdtarchala]

very deep

[goirish41]

film I saw on Walker was not that impressive, to be honest. Veeerrry weak competition, IMO. He has the measurables, though, I'll give him that.

[IrishKnight1023]

I go off of offers when in doubt and if you play in Virginia and have a USC offer and basically everywhere else in the country then I feel a little bit better about taking him ala Jimmy Clausen. But Clausen played very tough teams his Sr. year like St. Bondaventure or whatever their name is.

[Ricochet]

Wow, if this is true it's huge IMO to get a visit at this time. IMO he's a special talent that very similar to AJ Green and Julio Jones just less polished at the time compared to those 2.

I'm tired of hearing about level of compitition, there is alot of elite kids that don't play at the highest levels of HS football but elite talent is elite talent no matter where they play.

Mike Hart is a family friend and as much as it hurt me to see him to go to UM I'm happy for him except of course when he's playing against ND but he's been great and one of the better RB's in the nation since his freshman year. Not bad for a kid that played terriblely weak compitition in New York's class D, the smallest/lowest level.

[The Army Awakens]

About a week and a half ago I informed DD of big time visits and this is one of the names... If Walker receives an offer tomorrow... Something very fishy would be going on here nothing in regards to Floyd but ND giving this guy an offer would mean that they want to close up shop and I look for this kid to be very impressed tomorrow...

But if no offer goes out. I am pretty confident that we are sitting in the catbirds seat for Baldwin...

Also something thats interesting is people think that Walker and Butler will be going to the same school...

[IrishCalves]

Also something thats interesting is people think that Walker and Butler will be going to the same school...

I've heard that chatter as well, to the tune of Bobby Bowden's Seminoles at FSU. Mild chatter though from a wandering poster here ore there, nothing much worth getting worked up over. Though I've never heard of them as a package deal, so lets be clear on that. Just similar interests and perhaps similar destination.

[NDgrandson]

This intrigues me.
1. Walker was asked by ND staff to take a visit in hopes that it would put pressure on Baldwin?
2. Walker, realizing ND may have a #1 class, sees ND as a viable choice and could commit before Baldwin gets close to announcing?
3. Walker has genuine interest and CW could take 4 WRs this year and possibly not take an OL, TB or J.Brown?
4. Walker liked the movie Rudy and is just visiting for fun, no real interest?

What is it Gold Helmet? :confused:

[therizz]

Thanks AA, keep posting as always. Glad to see you are on the Helmet...

[scooper]

I can't see this having anything to do with Floyd. They have to feel good about him, so the obvious question is Baldwin. He wants to be a signing day decision. Maybe they don't want to be that patient. Well, here is another tall rangy WR with good measurables to either apply a little pressure or maybe take his spot.

OR...................

Maybe Walker is just a great talent who suddenly has interest in ND and they would be crazy to not attempt to lure him here.

The next couple days should be interesting as he doesn't have an offer yet. I would think with the way things are going, they would not offer unless there were an indication that he is interested. If he does get an offer, that may completely change the way this class finishes out.

Has Walker ever given an indication as to a timetable? I don't know enough about him.

[NDGirlzRock]

[QUOTE=The Army Awakens;13699]But if no offer goes out. I am pretty confident that we are sitting in the catbirds seat for Baldwin... QUOTE]

Here birdy birdy birdy! Just going on the type of name here...could he be "Primetime"?

[marv81s]

i don't even see ND on his list of interest on rivals and there are about 10 schools on there, if he is really coming to ND for a visit, I am absolutely thrilled about this kid coming. Deion jumping on in place of Baldwin and/or Butler would be be a huge plus in my book.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Agreed Marv.

[The Army Awakens]

Unless he is so impressed with everything we have going on and he sees the same light as Floyd on a one day visit the best we can hope for is an official visit and we might have to wait as long... But if he doesn't receive an offer Butler is truly as torn with his decision as he stated...

[DiegoIrish]

Throw another shrimp on the barby

[marv81s]

i'm putting him as my new avatar, but i'm not getting my hopes up for him.

I'd be thrilled beyond words (severe understatement) to have a kid of his caliber as a WR, sure would take away a ton of the question marks I have on why elite WRs seem to not head ND's way.

[DiegoIrish]

Ya I definitely wouldnt be upset if the next 3 commits were Floyd, Baldwin and Walker

[Fishin'_Irish]

Which 5 star recruit to take? AH, it's so agonizing!






This is so awesome. :D

[IrishKnight1023]

I think it'd be a smart move to offer this guy. Brice is going to USC and waiting for ONE receiver (Baldwin) till NSD is not very wise for a position of need.

[DiegoIrish]

Ya at worse its some extra pressure on guys lagging on their decision and at best its a 5* receiver in the book. Cant complain there.

[The Army Awakens]

Why do you visit a school where you don't have a standing offer... The class, the depth chart, and the ND quarterbacks could all be a reason... If Crist keeps shining at Elite 11 we could potentially see a change in other's opinions of the wide receivers currently offered and players like Walker could take notice as well... There was a massive difference between Gabbert and Crist and Manuel, Jackson...

[IrishKnight1023]

Why do you visit a school where you don't have a standing offer... The class, the depth chart, and the ND quarterbacks could all be a reason... If Crist keeps shining at Elite 11 we could potentially see a change in other's opinions of the wide receivers currently offered and players like Walker could take notice as well... There was a massive difference between Gabbert and Crist and Manuel, Jackson...

-------I think we ALL know it's only a matter of time until Crist gets the 5th star and become the 2nd rated QB. No one will stop the Vince Young hype machine Pryor who I'm not sold on his throwing abilities.

[irish21]

^^^Agreed. Crist is the best pro stlye QB in the country, IMO. I dont like Pryor at QB in an NFL type system.

[gallup21]

someone told me hes not really that interested in ND after the visit. he left at 5 pm today

[The Army Awakens]

No space available or just no interest? That is the question at hand...

[Fishin'_Irish]

Easy come easy go, I guess.

[notredomer23]

he watched rudy on the ride up and wanted to see the campus

[The New Louis]

Whatever. If he is not interested then so be it. Maybe it puts a little more pressure on some of the offered guys (Baldwin) to speed things up.

[iloveirish_12]

Yeah but I dont think you go to a place like ND if your not interested. I mean it's not like Flordia or Cal.

[scooper]

Yeah but I dont think you go to a place like ND if your not interested. I mean it's not like Flordia or Cal.

Nick's info is usually pretty tight. So chances are he did indeed leave with little interest.
I like that they're still out fishing, though.

[Trippero]

Which 5 star recruit to take? AH, it's so agonizing!






This is so awesome. :D

Its a nice problem to have. Go irish!

[Fishin'_Irish]

Nice to see you on GH.

[gallup21]

Yeah but I dont think you go to a place like ND if your not interested. I mean it's not like Flordia or Cal.

i think he couldve been interested, but he left at 5 the person told me and said he thought if Deion was more interested he probably wouldve stayed longer. im just going off of what this person told me

[IrishKnight1023]

I'd be pretty annoyed if I left without an offer as well.

[Akron Irish]

There's a free article on him out today. Apparently, he loved the campus and wants to come back for an official this fall.

[NDGirlzRock]

Hey has anyone heard about Walker getting an offer. Scout shows that he has received one. I haven't checked B & G. Interesting!

[scooper]

scout's free database is not very accurate.

[NDGirlzRock]

I guessed that....B&G has him listed as interested!

[The Army Awakens]

In looking back at that article, he said he wanted to visit ND on September 8th against Penn State... That is an away game and if he shows up there and a home game that will be kind of crazy... Or he doesn't know ND's schedule which isn't good...

[NDisNCin2010]

i think he said wanted to check out PSU at home, (its prolly no that far by car up to State College form VA)...for the PSU-ND game.
This kid seems to like EVERY school he sees...i think he has visited 30 schools already!
and is even visiting ones he doesnt have offers to...do we think CW and staff want to deal with a wildcard like this guy at the stage of the 2008 class? perhaps. but sure wish FLOYD would commit, so as to give staff some "house money" when it comes to that 3rd/possibly 4th WR fr this class.

[Double_Domer]

I think this comes under the "if you're looking, we're looking category" - since Floyd hasn't pulled the trigger (but I assume he has one of those offers where the spot has been guaranteed all the way to NSD), but the other WR's who've been offered haven't pulled the trigger yet as well.

Get your attention I bet if you had an offer and read that ND was allowing guys without offers (5* guys) to come up and visit to talk...in other words guy with the unguaranteed offer better pull the trigger soon or other offers may go out to somebody who will take the spot...all speculation

[NDisNCin2010]

totally agree Domer...amazing what a little pressure, perception and momentum did to the decision dates and visit dates for so many of these guys this year i.e. McCarthy, J Brown, R Williams and others.

[rontdtarchala]

yeah its time to pull the trigger...I know I know there are several players coach will wait for but I personally don't like indecision on our top needs players...pull the trigger already

[NDGirlzRock]

Not that I don't luv it, but we are all becoming jaded. When have we ever had this many recruits this early.....never. As it has once been said by a very wise man, "patience is a virtue that few have and even fewer achieve."

[NDisNCin2010]

to thicken the plot a little more, it appears the recruiting sites are reporting he has set a decision date.
does anyone know when it is?
only reason i ask is lets assume Scout (Mike Frank) has it right and he got an offer from ND...then, a day later he announces a "day for decision"...well, ya never know.
does this seem feasible or is there more here than meets the eye? i missing something?

[Svoboda]

Mike Frank has no control over the Scout database.

[NDGirlzRock]

Neither does Scout for that matter.

[NDisNCin2010]

Neither does Scout for that matter.

:):)

[Ricochet]

Neither does Scout for that matter.Aint that the truth. :D

[The Army Awakens]

NDNC where did you hear that about him setting a decision date... That would mean he would have to cancel his west coast visits...

[YoungIrish]

Ive not heard or read anything on a decision date...last I read he wanted to go out to USC..his dads a big USC fan...so that wont help us..but Im hoping for Floyd and Baldwin anyway..

[NDisNCin2010]

NDNC where did you hear that about him setting a decision date... That would mean he would have to cancel his west coast visits...

OOPS!..on Rivals it has a tagline: "Walker Sets an Official" and i think i must have thought (could have sworn) that it said he set a DECISION DATE or something like that...i am "all wet" on this one...i may have to hand in my torch and leave the GH island over this gaffe...can i ever recover?...I can see my friend Knight waiting menacingly to snuff it out as i type this...:o:o

[YoungIrish]

Does anyone know if Deion Walker left ND with a scholorship offer?

[scooper]

There has been no indication that he got one.

[iloveirish_12]

I dont think it matters, because I don't think ND has a chance with this kid.

[YoungIrish]

Never know..thats what I heard about Omar Hunter for months..The kid seemed to really like the campus...and plus it seems he wants to stretch the field and go for the long bombs...He should hae watched Stovall and Smardjiza with the long balls they caught..I dunno..personally I would want him and Floyd..but I would also love Butler..

[YoungIrish]

Over on Rivals they have a new piece claiming Walkers visit to Notre Dame exceeded his expectations..

[NDGirlzRock]

That's recruit speak for "I want a schollie!"

[NDisNCin2010]

FWIW:
two separate posters, one on II messgae board (Dillon63) and another at Scout Irish63 casually made remarks and posts about "now that Deion has his offer"...dont know if its true or not, could be speculation.
Scout profile also says "yes" under "offer" from ND.
who knows!?

[Svoboda]

FWIW:
two separate posters, one on II messgae board (Dillon63) and another at Scout Irish63 casually made remarks and posts about "now that Deion has his offer"...dont know if its true or not, could be speculation.
Scout profile also says "yes" under "offer" from ND.
who knows!?
If you'd read earlier in this thread, the Scout database has had Walker listed win an offer for some time but he does not have an offer.

[YoungIrish]

On power hour today Mike Frank made it seem like Walker did not have an offer yet..and we would probably wait to see what Butler does next week...Also, Weis was out of town he said and usually hes the final authority on giving out the offers

[rontdtarchala]

all we can do is wait and see

[Ricochet]

Just because recruitng sites don't have info of him an offer doesn't mean anything there are always prospect and other things that we just don't hear about.

That said I don't think he has an official offer by the time he left because Coach Weis wasn't there and hasn't signed off on offering him. I'm once eveything is in order I think the offer comes. But thats just my $0.02.

[YoungIrish]

I think he has USC number one...on Facebook he wrote Butler and asked if he was ready to go out west...

[IrishKnight1023]

The staff told him he'll have to wait for all of the coaches to get together (Weis to get back in town) to have a meeting and decide and will let him know shortly. Basically I think it's coming very soon.

[IrishCalves]

Unless it is some kind of run-around tactic (i.e. Masengo Kabongo: "We want to get to know you better..."), you're probably right.

Reading the tea leaves here, I tend to think this would be in response to what the staff feels about the impending Brice Butler decision. They've probably got some level of indication about his lean via Jamoris Slaughter, who struck up a continuing dialogue with him at one of the camps they attended together. But as was said earlier in the thread, we'll just have to wait a little while to see.

[IrishKnight1023]

Unless it is some kind of run-around tactic (i.e. Masengo Kabongo: "We want to get to know you better..."), you're probably right.

Reading the tea leaves here, I tend to think this would be in response to what the staff feels about the impending Brice Butler decision. They've probably got some level of indication about his lean via Jamoris Slaughter, who struck up a continuing dialogue with him at one of the camps they attended together. But as was said earlier in the thread, we'll just have to wait a little while to see.

----I agree, but I THINK Powlus told him that they can't make any decisions unless Weis gives the go ahead. Also he'd have to come back to the Bend to review some more film and their options to make a sound decision. I'm confident in him receiving an offer shortly.

[IrishKnight1023]

As many of you know I'm the Yahoo guy who supplies every little article tidbit I can. Sometimes they give you half, and others are full. This happens to be half......enjoy what little there is....

http://notredame.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?sid=961&script=/content.asp&cid=694803&fid=&tid=&mid=

"The visit was really good," he said.

[irishziggy]

As many of you know I'm the Yahoo guy who supplies every little article tidbit I can. Sometimes they give you half, and others are full. This happens to be half......enjoy what little there is....

http://notredame.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?sid=961&script=/content.asp&cid=694803&fid=&tid=&mid=

"The visit was really good," he said.

I saw 1 of this kid's highlights on College Football Live today and the kid has some measurables. ESPN Scouts Inc highlighted Julio Jones, Deion Walker, & Brice Butler. I'm not sure how much of a chance we have with Walker, but we're down to Butler's final 3, so if we got 1 of these 2 guys, id be ecstatic.

[YoungIrish]

Yea the kid is a stud...got a hold of him yesterday...told me he def. does not have an Irish offer yet but liked the school...

[NDGirlzRock]

For the record....Walker DOES NOT have an Irish offer, but he is listed on Scout as having one. Don't want to get anyone excited! The "no offer" was checked against several credible sources.

[goirish41]

I was at a family reunion on Saturday in Virginia, and one of Walker's classmates at Christchurch Academy was there.

No scoop here, but I asked him what kind of guy Walker is and he couldn't say more complementary things about him. sounds like a real character kid.

He also told me Walker's father is a teacher at the Academy, and that he is very, very big on education. The guy's take was that Walker's father will probably have a big influence on his son's decision, and that education will without a doubt be a huge deciding factor. :)

[ndblue]

I haven't check Walker's stats, but I will leave that for you guys. As reported Walker doesn't have an offer yet. Also, it makes sense that any final word on a pending offer would need Coach Weis input. Isn't practice suppose to start sometime this week? I would assume with the trial wrapped up and practice is stating this week that if an offer would be coming then Weis will be their to bless it.

[Irish93]

I think that B. Butler making his decision will also play a role in that determination.

[NDisNCin2010]

after reading all the posts of late on Walker...seems like a great kid, has the grades, is a 4/5 star depending on what site your on...only question i have is... why in hell hasnt he had an offer form the git go?
all things considered, WR is our last and STILL biggest priority...ill give staff till this Butler decision (still say hes FSU all the way), and when he announces FSU if we dont offer Harper AND Walker immediately, after the Little/Benn fiasco last year we are dang fools...

[irishziggy]

after reading 1 of the taglines from rivals, it actually looks like Deion Walker is FSU's to lose as well.

[NDGirlzRock]

after reading all the posts of late on Walker...seems like a great kid, has the grades, is a 4/5 star depending on what site your on...only question i have is... why in hell hasnt he had an offer form the git go?
all things considered, WR is our last and STILL biggest priority...ill give staff till this Butler decision (still say hes FSU all the way), and when he announces FSU if we dont offer Harper AND Walker immediately, after the Little/Benn fiasco last year we are dang fools...

Yeah I couldn't agree more....I can't believe that they gave Odoms an offer over this kid. But you never know. Only thing you can hope for on the Free Shoes U front is that Butler committing to bible bobby will have some negative impact. Butler being there could help limit playing time for Walker. FWIW I am going with Butler to FSU and ND having much more of a shot with Walker. Look for the offer to come shortly after Butler commits.

[Troy's Enterprise Pride]

my prediction is that we end up with floyd and baldwin.

we don't have a shot at butler... at all. we are a non-player for him, sitting comfortably in the #3 slot without promise of moving up or down.

i dont see walker coming to ND. it would be nice, but he hasnt really given the irish any special treatment compared to the other schools that he visited across the nation. i think it is wishful thinking on our part to believe that we are in the race for walker.

[HoffVir]

my prediction is that we end up with floyd and baldwin.

we don't have a shot at butler... at all. we are a non-player for him, sitting comfortably in the #3 slot without promise of moving up or down.

i dont see walker coming to ND. it would be nice, but he hasnt really given the irish any special treatment compared to the other schools that he visited across the nation. i think it is wishful thinking on our part to believe that we are in the race for walker.

They are the two WRs I covet most.

ND needs Floyd to commit sooner rather than later. This way they can concentrate on and wait for Baldwin around NSD.

[irishunclebill]

It appears as though the only reason Walker did not get an earlier offer was a grades related issue. That is no longer an issue. The only thing holding up a potential offer at this time is Butler's official announcement that he is not coming to ND. If Walker does not receive an offer shortly thereafter, then we will all know that grades were not the only issue. If he does get an offer Walker would still be a longshot for ND, but the Irish would at least be on the horizon for another WR.

[rontdtarchala]

floyd needs to verb man....

[irishunclebill]

They are the two WRs I covet most.

ND needs Floyd to commit sooner rather than later. This way they can concentrate on and wait for Baldwin around NSD.

I agree but I am of the opinion that Floyd is all but in already, and that potential offers to Walker and even Chris Harper may be a subtle way of seeing whether Baldwin might be convinced to move his timing up a bit. If Baldwin stays firm and Walker or Harper get an offer and commit, I believe that would be looked upon as the #24 Wild Card, and Baldwin would still have a slot available for him come NSD if he decided to go Irish.

[rontdtarchala]

yeah I can see that good point

[YoungIrish]

Yea well until Floyd verbs I cant feel 100% confident...I just cant see him picking OSU..and thats who I see at #2 in the battle for Floyd...They are already going after two other WR's...The more I see Harper the more I like..I wouldnt mind seeing him get an offer soon...Deion Walker..That would be icing on the cake...Baldwin..dont hear much on him..thought I heard it was a Pitt vs ND battle...he seems like he wants to wait till NSD...and Butler...Ive gone on the record saying hes going to pick us...I wouldnt say Im 100% sure...maybe just like 5% sure haha just have to see how that one goes..I dont think Charlie is going to settle for not getting his WR's this year...He struck out last year..and I feel confident it wont happen again..

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I have full confidence in CW. I'm not worried a bit. Floyd will come, or he has a viable plan B. Although I think Floyd will be Irish, and another will be added as well.

[rontdtarchala]

we definitely need a couple...did anyone see that espnu top 150 show...I believe only butler was in there 150 (of the players we are after) oh yeah and the va kid

[irishunclebill]

we definitely need a couple...did anyone see that espnu top 150 show...I believe only butler was in there 150 (of the players we are after) oh yeah and the va kid

Forgetting two very big names, Floyd & Baldwin.

Butler #16- By Saturday he's gone.
Walker #18- Will he get an offer?
Baldwin #26- Listed as a TE everywhere, being recruited as a WR.
Floyd #41- Is he already Irish?

[scooper]

Forgetting two very big names, Floyd & Baldwin.

Butler #16- By Saturday he's gone.
Walker #18- Will he get an offer?
Baldwin #26- Listed as a TE everywhere, being recruited as a WR.
Floyd #41- Is he already Irish?


scout now lists Baldwin as a WR.

[Fishin'_Irish]

^^ It's about time someone did.

[Troy's Enterprise Pride]

He struck out last year..and I feel confident it wont happen again..

i hardly call Kamara and Tate "striking out." so, we missed out on benn, it hurt, yeah... but Kamara and Tate are both incredible talents, and i'm excited to see what they are going to do under the dome.

[YoungIrish]

I ment he struck out with Benn and Little...we got some great wide outs from last year...we didnt strike out there...I was just refering to dumb and dumber who decided not to come to ND..

[NDGirlzRock]

i hardly call Kamara and Tate "striking out." so, we missed out on benn, it hurt, yeah... but Kamara and Tate are both incredible talents, and i'm excited to see what they are going to do under the dome.

Yeah what about Goodman too! The kid has wheels and he is already ours. Let's not overlook that fact. We have Kamara, Tate, Goodman, possibly Floyd, Baldwin, Walker. Not to mention I think that one of the guys that is unproven this year is going to step forward, the same way the shark did in CW's first year.

[Troy's Enterprise Pride]

Yeah what about Goodman too! The kid has wheels and he is already ours. Let's not overlook that fact. We have Kamara, Tate, Goodman, possibly Floyd, Baldwin, Walker. Not to mention I think that one of the guys that is unproven this year is going to step forward, the same way the shark did in CW's first year.

which one are you predicting to step up?

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Uh oh, enterprise rentacar 'we'll pick you up' just called out NDGirlz.

[NDGirlzRock]

which one are you predicting to step up?

I'm going to say either Gallup or Parris. If I'm wrong I'm wrong. Kamara will be good too.

[NDGirlzRock]

CW has just done too much with less than desirable in several situations. I look to see him continuing this tradition.

[IrishKnight1023]

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=rivals-144137&prov=rivals&type=story_recruiting

"The visit was really good," he said. "It caught me off guard; I didn't think it would be that good."

[rontdtarchala]

We Have Talent But We Need To Get More...first Come First Serve....

[irishziggy]

CW has just done too much with less than desirable in several situations. I look to see him continuing this tradition.

not on offense though. agreed, samardzija was a pleasant surprised, but his measurables were great and he had great hands.

[rontdtarchala]

we will and I don't think our passing will be as bad as most think...as a matter of a fact I think we will kick a......

[IrishKnight1023]

we will and I don't think our passing will be as bad as most think...as a matter of a fact I think we will kick a......

-----That's speaking like a true Domer. I hope to God you're right.

[NDGirlzRock]

not on offense though. agreed, samardzija was a pleasant surprised, but his measurables were great and he had great hands.

What are you talkin' about ziggy? Throughout his career Weis has turned so so talent into superstars. Deion Branch, Tom Brady, The Shark, Brady Quinn, David Givens. All of these guys had some talent, this is true, but many had no direction, no one to teach them how to win. Well Weis did that for them all. Let me just say that if it wasn't for Weis we wouldn't have a thread about Brady holding out for more money.

[Troy's Enterprise Pride]

i agree with ziggy. samardzija had incredible hands, balance, and body-positioning. he was underrated coming out of high school, but you cant just expect to reproduce his talent every year.... the guy broke several ND receiving records in just 25 games. as much as i'd love to see it happen again, it's highly doubtful that someone is going to emerge with the same productivity.

and, yes, Weis made Quinn a ND legend... but there is more to the equation than just Weis. Quinn worked his tail off... he had the dedication and passion to make himself better - a rare trait. it takes more than just a coach.

[YoungIrish]

I would love to land this kid...Just seems like to much of a USC lean..I dunno though...First the kid needs an offer though..I think if we can just land two people out of Floyd, Baldwin, Butler, Walker, or Harper we will be fine...

[Troy's Enterprise Pride]

what makes you think he is a USC lean?

[The Army Awakens]

The same weak sources that says Butler is a USC lean... Just pure guesstimation...

[Svoboda]

what makes you think he is a USC lean?
I believe most people refer to the kid's facebook account where he's talking with other recruits about going to USC.

[irishunclebill]

Most of the rumors flying around are that Walker is an imminent FSU commit because he is buddy buddy with EJ Manuel. He denied that yesterday, although he did imply that FSU was at the top of his list. He said he is planning on deciding in October.

[irishunclebill]

The same weak sources that says Butler is a USC lean... Just pure guesstimation...


weak sources- LOL.

[Troy's Enterprise Pride]

The same weak sources that says Butler is a USC lean... Just pure guesstimation...


honestly, i think your on-campus connections are weak sources too. your on-campus correspondent said that Sabino and Brown were committing on their visits... i'm assuming this is the same connection that reports our standing with butler? if so, i'm inclined to completely disagree.


however, if butler DOES by some miracle, feel free to rub it in my face for as long as you'd like, because i'll deserve it. but, i think there is no way that butler is choosing the irish this weekend.

[irishunclebill]

honestly, i think your on-campus connections are weak sources too. your on-campus correspondent said that Sabino and Brown were committing on their visits... i'm assuming this is the same connection that reports our standing with butler? if so, i'm inclined to completely disagree.


however, if butler DOES by some miracle, feel free to rub it in my face for as long as you'd like, because i'll deserve it. but, i think there is no way that butler is choosing the irish this weekend.


Let's not forget about Shayne Hale being on campus and already Irish.:rolleyes: TAA, weak sources is not a term you should use in reference to anybody else until "your sources" LOL, actually provide credible information.

[YoungIrish]

Naa I just heard his dad was a big USC fan in one of the rival or scout articles...Also on his facebook he was asking Butler if he was ready to go out west or something awhile back..so maybe things have changed...I want Butler to come..I just get the odd reason that he will pick ND..maybe its just b/c i want him..who knows...Deion Walker seems like a long shot..

[Troy's Enterprise Pride]

well... when you live in christchurch virginia (on the coastline, just north of va beach), pretty much anywhere you go is out west. but, i know what you are saying.... walker is, by all means, a long shot, and i'm pretty confident that we will not land him. butler is in the same boat to me...

our most realistic shots are at floyd and baldwin... which is not news to anyone

[jfschellcrna]

floyd and baldwin work.............

[YoungIrish]

I can dig Clausen or Crist throwing to the five wide outs of Kamara, Tate, Floyd, Baldwin and Ragone...throw Goodman, Parrish, West, and Rudolph in there..

[The Army Awakens]

Those were all rumors that people on campus started... I relayed this and I get ambushed by saying weak sources... Whatever I like reading what all of you say... But him being friends with another recruit is just about as a valid argument as "my" Hale rumor... Yeah right, first of all it wasn't mine... Now that I know that every rumor on campus has to be taken with a grain of salt... I even have to take what all of you say with a grain of salt unless IUB is Corwin Brown... Everything will work out at least we are arguing about this than about losing recruits and silent committments...

GO IRISH...

[YoungIrish]

I love your insight The Army Awakens...keep it up...I dont care if sometimes it turns out to be false...sometimes you do get the goods right...so just keep up with the updates..thanks..

[irishunclebill]

Whoa, hold on a second there TAA, being called out for being hypocritical by using the term "weak sources" for another poster is a far cry from an ambush.

Besides, YoungIrish merely stated his opinion that he thought Walker was a USC lean. That's a whole different story than you proclaiming on DD that Hale was on campus and he is Irish, that is what you said, and then tried to backtrack from it in various ways the rest of the day.

Most of these guys want to give you the benefit of the doubt, don't expect that from me. Let's see last week it was Brown and Sabino will commit during their visit. Brown does not even visit, Sabino does not commit. Plus you initiate the bogus rumor that Sabino planned to stop at South Bend on his way back from OSU to commit to the Irish, even going so far as to putting a time stamp on it I believe. Never happened, never was going to happen. So after all of that you try to imply that someone else has weak sources when they talk about Walker being a USC lean, because the sources that the kid did not even mention, are the same ones that disagree with your assessment that Butler also will be Irish. Sorry, but all of that BS is a little more than this Irishman can handle. Either you have the worst sources in the world, or, well you know what the other part of that equation is.

You can consider yourself ambushed now.

As to the reference to me, no, I am not Corwin Brown, and yes, feel free to take everything I post with a grain of salt, but understand something very clearly, I do not have any "sources", I report what I see and hear and never claim to have "inside information". Those like you who do that always set themselves up for the type of ambush you just received.

So keep on posting your info, it adds to the dialogue immensely, but don't be a hypocrite about it, and be prepared to take your lumps, at least from me, when you are incorrect, which you frequently seem to be.

[goirish41]

ouch. that's gotta sting a little. :eek:

[The Army Awakens]

He asked where they came from... and thats what I said what I said... And that rumor wasn't initiated by me... But by a poster on Irish Illustrated message board... Look at the times... I didn't by no means state that is what I believed what will happened... Why don't you just drive the 26 miles it takes to get here and we can talk it out face to face

[Irish93]

Most of the rumors flying around are that Walker is an imminent FSU commit because he is buddy buddy with EJ Manuel. He denied that yesterday, although he did imply that FSU was at the top of his list. He said he is planning on deciding in October.

Back to the issue at hand, I'm not hearing about USC and Walker at all. I'm hearing that it is a close race between FSU and PSU right now. Because Walker has talked so much about getting a quality education, it will be interesting to see what an offer from ND will do.

[YoungIrish]

Yea I mean I was just stating my opinion..I have no sources on D.Walker...I mean Ive talked to him a few times on Facebook...he said hes still waiting for his offer and that he had a good visit to ND..but I mean I think before you post any late breaking new commitments about to happen that you MAKE 100% sure that your source knows what hes talking about..I was already marking down Brown and Sabino in the book of commitments...and the day you said Hale was going to commit..well I was running around crazy and then had to tell my gf oops sorry wrong info...so best to make sure your 100% on your info...but if you do have 100% info then yea spread the word so we you can get your praise and we can celebrate..

[irishunclebill]

He asked where they came from... and thats what I said what I said... And that rumor wasn't initiated by me... But by a poster on Irish Illustrated message board... Look at the times... I didn't by no means state that is what I believed what will happened... Why don't you just drive the 26 miles it takes to get here and we can talk it out face to face

HUH? I'm not going to take this much futher because Irish93 is right, this thread is about Deion Walker, but what exactly are you talking about, your post is somewhat incomprehensible, and who do you want to drive 26 miles to meet you "face to face". LOL- Is that supposed to be some kind of internet macho bravado challenge. Give me a break.

[stealingshrimp]

(sorry for posting off topic)

I believe every poster has the responsibility of not spreading mistruths(whether they intend to or not). If you did it once, and were unaware - reaccess your sources and your posting habits.

ALSO, when people realize false information has been posted and inquire on what has happened - becoming defensive is not a mature way to handle it.

If you are going to continue to post 'privledged,inside' information and continually be wrong, you are hurting the credibility to the entire community.
I love GH(thanks Svo), and would really love that its credibility not be sullied- and would love to see it as a legitimate alternative to the BIG3.

[NDGirlzRock]

Welcome to the posting world Shrimpy!

[IrishKnight1023]

Let's all get along, I'm usually the one who has the confrontations around here! You're stealing my thunder.

[irishunclebill]

Let's all get along, I'm usually the one who has the confrontations around here! You're stealing my thunder.

LOL- MOD in training.:D

[GoshenGipper]

LOL- MOD in training.:D

He wishes ;)

[irishunclebill]

Profile Updated & Pictures Added.

[irishunclebill]

Based on the rankings of WR’s by Rivals, Scout, and ESPN, Deion Walker is the consensus #3 WR recruit in the Class of 2008, behind only Julio Jones & A.J. Green.

[IrishKnight1023]

Floyd will always be #1 in my heart.

[YoungIrish]

Hmm gonna have to disagree...
Walker....Rivals has him higher ranked then Butler...
Butler....Scout and ESPN have him ranked higher then Walker...
So i guess technically Butler is rated higher if you look at all three of the publications..

[irishunclebill]

Hmm gonna have to disagree...
Walker....Rivals has him higher ranked then Butler...
Butler....Scout and ESPN have him ranked higher then Walker...
So i guess technically Butler is rated higher if you look at all three of the publications..

Depends on how you look at the math. Walker is much higher ranked than Butler on Rivals, while Butler is just barely ahead of Walker on ESPN, and 12 slots ahead of him on Scout. A consensus system looks at the relative rankings of each board, not just who is highest on each board. In that type of system, Walker comes out ahead of Butler with a consensus rank of #29, while Butler would be #39. Floyd is just slighty behind Butler at #41.

Also, Floyd is ranked higher than Butler on both Rivals & Scout. Overall, I would have to say that at least according to the recruiting boards & their analysts that they consider Walker to be the best of these three guys, with Floyd & Butler a virtual tie. Personally I agree with IK that Floyd is the guy most ready to contribute to a team winning games right off the bat.

[YoungIrish]

I just want Floyd to commit already..if he hasnt already...

[JMR07]

Okay I Don't Know If I Missed Something Or Not So If This Is Stupid My Bad.

Have We Offred Deion Walker, One Time Im Hearing We Are Just Very Interested And Waiting To See How The Other Scholarships Left Fill Out And Then I Go On To Scout And It Has Us In A List Of 10 Or So With An Offer. Someone Tell Me Whats Up Here Becasue Even If It May Be A Long Shot At Him I Believe And Offer Would Be Well Worth It Especially After His Recent Visit.

[irishunclebill]

We Have Not Yet Offered Deion Walker! Ignore Scout, Check The GH Offer List.

Link:

Gold Helmet 2008 Offer List (http://www.goldhelmet.com/getoffers.php?class=2008)

[NDisNCin2010]

FWIW,
Tom Lemming had Floyd as a Top 5 WR LAST YEAR...meaning had Floyd been on the 2007 class, he was a Top 5, perhaps overall no. 2 after Benn...now this 2008 class is way more loaded than 2007 in terms of WR's so take it FWIW... i know Lemming is a bit of a tool, but he did say that.

[IrishKnight1023]

When does Lemming come out with his rankings anyway?

[irishunclebill]

It's not official yet (even though Scout already lists him as having an offer), but two different sites are leaking blurbs that indicate that an offer is in the mail for Deion Walker. If true, this should quell any idea that Butler might be an August surprise for the Irish, despite the fact that 36 GH'ers picked Butler to ND in our poll. I know, I know, it was mostly wishful thinking. As soon as confirmation is received that Walker has a written offer, we will add him to the GH offer list.

BTW, Deion is supposed to make a Top 10 cut list next week, look for ND to be on that list.

[NDisNCin2010]

When does Lemming come out with his rankings anyway?


they are out now on another thread...lots of "our guys"..no surprise there

[YoungIrish]

I talked to him today...the rumor is true...an offer is on the way...woo hoo

[NDGirlzRock]

Hey YI....you know this kid personally? Any chance of us actually getting him?

[IrishKnight1023]

It's probably a facebook type scernario right?

[NDGirlzRock]

It's probably a facebook type scernario right?

Who knows? He makes it sound like he talked to the kid personally!

[NDisNCin2010]

I talked to him today...the rumor is true...an offer is on the way...woo hoo

i posted on another thread soemwhere here on GH that this exact scenario would happen:
Offer to one of either Walker or Harper PRIOR to the Butller announcement. (looks like its Walker...no surprise)
This means Butler told ND staff over last couple days, sorry not coming, thanks...so staff sent off the Walker offer, first to Walker indicating they like him for WR over Harper...thereby giving Walker chance to come on board first, and if not come aboard quickly, offer going out to Harper too.

[YoungIrish]

Just over facebook...nothing to personal...he jsut said that the offer was comming soon

[Svoboda]

Glad to see him getting an offer, but I hope it's not too little, too late.

[YoungIrish]

Need to move this thread over to the offered prospects list..

[rontdtarchala]

some ones going to have to explain to me where the proper place to start threads are so I'm not po'ing anyone off anymore

[IrishKnight1023]

Need to move this thread over to the offered prospects list..

----Not until it's official.

[notredomer23]

Offered by tuesday

[marv81s]

With fsu losing AJ and now Butler, look for the full court press to be put on Deion now

[Irish93]

I've heard that Rivals is reporting that he is a pretty strong lean to FSU.

[irishunclebill]

They have FSU as High Interest for Walker, the only school in that category, but that mostly relates to their opinion of Walker's relationship with EJ Manuel. IMO, FSU is probably on top for Walker, but I don't think he is an imminent commit to there, or a mortal lock.

[NDisNCin2010]

we'll never know where we stand with Deion...until WE OFFER HIM!

what are they waiting for?!

...at a min DW should have an offer (i mean, call Martavious Odoms and tell him going in diff direction as it seems he already has) and get Walker an offer already

maybe he already has and its just not reported or official...so delete if/when confirmation of a Walker offer...a Rivals 5 star WR who visited ND without an offer, basically soliciting one himself.

[irishunclebill]

we'll never know where we stand with Deion...until WE OFFER HIM!

what are they waiting for?!

...at a min DW should have an offer (i mean, call Martavious Odoms and tell him going in diff direction as it seems he already has) and get Walker an offer already

maybe he already has and its just not reported or official...so delete if/when confirmation of a Walker offer...a Rivals 5 star WR who visited ND without an offer, basically soliciting one himself.

Wait, I know you know this. There is very reliable info that an offer has already been sent to Deion, but the recruiting services are not going to be able to confirm that until after he actually receives it. I think B&G will be the first to add Walker to their offer list, and as soon as they do, we will most likely follow suit.

[NDGirlzRock]

Wait, I know you know this. There is very reliable info that an offer has already been sent to Deion, but the recruiting services are not going to be able to confirm that until after he actually receives it. I think B&G will be the first to add Walker to their offer list, and as soon as they do, we will most likely follow suit.

Well I don't think that they will be the first to list him as offered, but I think that they will be the first to correctly list him as offered. Both Rivals and Scout have him listed with a ND offer. Their incompedence is showing!!!

[NDisNCin2010]

rivals?...hmm...that i did not know...saw that scout did...but not rivals...well i guess where theres smoke there is fire so i guess i can step back from the ledge now.

[irishunclebill]

Rivals has to be within the last hour so the smoke is actually flames.

[irishunclebill]

Rivals has to be within the last hour so the smoke is actually flames.


and the flames have been retarded. I see no offer for Walker on Rivals.

[NDGirlzRock]

Guess I'm retarded!!! My bad!

[Irish93]

I think that you can mark it down. The following is the teaser from the Premium Scout.com article released today.


Weis Offers Walker (http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=109&p=2&c=665348&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fnotredame.scout.com%2fa. z%3fs%3d109%26p%3d2%26c%3d665348)


Four-star receiver Deion Walker told Irish Eyes this afternoon that he spoke with Notre Dame head coach Charlie Weis last week, and was offered a scholarship. He said the Irish jump right to the front of the pack of schools in the running for the Christchurch, Va., product.

[tedwick]

and the flames have been retarded. I see no offer for Walker on Rivals.i'd prefer if the flames were referred to as "developmentally challenged".

...

i'm going to hell for that. : D

[IrishKnight1023]

Well if we get that last official visit he has open then I'll consider him a possibility, if not I won't.

[tchris555]

I think that you can mark it down. The following is the teaser from the Premium Scout.com article released today.

but at the same time he told a rivals site a top 4 and ND wasn't in it. so don't get too excited.

it's possible that comment was taken before he got his offer but the article did come out today.

[NDGirlzRock]

Patience grasshopper!!!!!!!

[irishunclebill]

i'd prefer if the flames were referred to as "developmentally challenged".

...

i'm going to hell for that. : D


LOL- Where's Stony when you need him.

[irishunclebill]

I think that you can mark it down. The following is the teaser from the Premium Scout.com article released today.

Irish93- It's about 90% assured but this info is just confirming what another site said last week, that Walker's offer was in the mail. We don't like to move a recruit into the offered column just because they say they have an offer, too often it's they are expecting an offer, not that they really have a written offer. In this case it seems pretty certain that Walker's written offer is on the way to him, and he should be on the GH Official Offer List by the end of the week.

[irishunclebill]

but at the same time he told a rivals site a top 4 and ND wasn't in it. so don't get too excited.

it's possible that comment was taken before he got his offer but the article did come out today.

He actually does not have his written offer yet, so it is unlikely he would have talked about to a Hokie recruiting writer about it.

[irishunclebill]

but at the same time he told a rivals site a top 4 and ND wasn't in it. so don't get too excited.

it's possible that comment was taken before he got his offer but the article did come out today.

BTW, Walker did not give Rivals a Top 4, he listed 4 schools that he expected to be in a Top 10 list that he plans to announce shortly. Look for ND to be on that list.

[NDisNCin2010]

BTW, Walker did not give Rivals a Top 4, he listed 4 schools that he expected to be in a Top 10 list that he plans to announce shortly. Look for ND to be on that list.


ND to be on which "list"?
his Top 4 or his Top 10?
(obviously if we're in the former we're in the latter...)

[irishunclebill]

ND to be on which "list"?
his Top 4 or his Top 10?
(obviously if we're in the former we're in the latter...)

Top 10, that is Walker's next step.

[irishunclebill]

I've seen enough to move Deion into the Offered Prospects category.

Here we go, another WR prospect, by some accounts the third best in the country behind only Julio Jones & A.J. Green.

[NDisNCin2010]

the important question is, (looking at the big picture):

did we offer b/c Butler chose USC or
did we offer b/c Floyd still not decided...and, the "if your lookin we're lookin" scenario is now playing out.

maybe ND staff telling Floyd that Walker offer went out b/c Butler chose elsewhere as a red herring (make/want Floyd feel they are related) when in reality they know after last year they cant rely on anything...and really want to use Walker offer to get mr floyd to commit.

...i'm just sayin.

[IrishKnight1023]

the important question is, (looking at the big picture):

did we offer b/c Butler chose USC or
did we offer b/c Floyd still not decided...and, the "if your lookin we're lookin" scenario is now playing out.

maybe ND staff telling Floyd that Walker offer went out b/c Butler chose elsewhere as a red herring (make/want Floyd feel they are related) when in reality they know after last year they cant rely on anything...and really want to use Walker offer to get mr floyd to commit.

...i'm just sayin.

----I think it has everything to do with Butler and nothing to do with Floyd. Notice the offer came out around the same time as Butlers decision. There is a very good chance that the staff want 2 more WR's and just relying on only two offered receivers to both pull the trigger for you is being foolishly optimistic. I like this move and it's a smart one, you can't sit back and strike out like last year because you waited around for a couple of guys who burned you at the end.

[irishdan123084]

imagine in a couple years if we have floyd, walker, and baldwin lined up in the wideout position...

[IrishKnight1023]

I could imagine Goodman, Kamara and Tate and that sound's pretty awesome.

[NDGirlzRock]

I could imagine Goodman, Kamara and Tate and that sound's pretty awesome.

Damn did anyone catch Kamara from practice yesterday? Looks good!!!

[Troy's Enterprise Pride]

well.... he looked good physically, and that's exciting... and he did fine on the cone drills... but if we were judging by cone drill performance, my top players would be: grimes, gallup, west, and parris (in no particular order). i'll hold my optomism until i get to see more... or i hear encouraging reports out of camp. i don't want to be disappointed.

[IrishKnight1023]

well.... he looked good physically, and that's exciting... and he did fine on the cone drills... but if we were judging by cone drill performance, my top players would be: grimes, gallup, west, and parris (in no particular order). i'll hold my optomism until i get to see more... or i hear encouraging reports out of camp. i don't want to be disappointed.

--Well since it was their first time ever doing that drill then it's expected. Of course the Vets will make it look easy because it's routine.

[Troy's Enterprise Pride]

of course. my point was that i won't get too high on kamara just from watching the cone drill

[daytonirish]

Front page of II says that Walker is keeping in contact with current players on the N.D. team. Kinda makes it sound like he has pretty good interest in N.D. Can't imagine him talking to the players without be interested.

[NDGirlzRock]

Front page of II says that Walker is keeping in contact with current players on the N.D. team. Kinda makes it sound like he has pretty good interest in N.D. Can't imagine him talking to the players without be interested.

I second that! I wonder who he is talking to on the team?

[irishunclebill]

I second that! I wonder who he is talking to on the team?


JC, trying to get in contact with Gary Gray. Walker is looking at majoring in business & actuarial sciences, serious academic stuff that is a hot major at ND right now. Also looking for a program that is not overloaded at WR. All positives for ND, but will it be enough?

[daytonirish]

I thought i read somewhere that his father was with him on his visit and that he his Off. Coordinator at sons highschool, and spent alot of time with Charlie. Could've been exchanging plays!! Or could be he's very interested in N.D.

[henges25]

Charlie was out of town during Walker's unofficial visit.

[irishunclebill]

I thought i read somewhere that his father was with him on his visit and that he his Off. Coordinator at sons highschool, and spent alot of time with Charlie. Could've been exchanging plays!! Or could be he's very interested in N.D.

CW & Deion's dad did have an extended telephone conversation last week.

[Troy's Enterprise Pride]

walker seems very interested in the social life of the college that he attends though... he seems worried about south bend. that's not a good sign.

[daytonirish]

What worries him about SouthBend? If you want things to do you can find them whereever your at. Big cities may offer more things to do but they also offer more ways to get in trouble.

[Troy's Enterprise Pride]

just by the article. he was skeptical of south bend. thats why he contacted jimmy... thats why he wants to talk to GG.

[daytonirish]

Fair enough, but I can't see any current N.D. player talking bad about the school or the town. I know some of the commits this year have talked about how the players were going to take them out. So the players must know a spot or two. I think things will be o.k.

[NDGirlzRock]

just by the article. he was skeptical of south bend. thats why he contacted jimmy... thats why he wants to talk to GG.

Having lived there, SB that is, most of my life. It's got plenty of student life. I mean, you're not going to meet any movie stars or get to watch hot bodies laying out in the quad all year round, but ND is definately a family atmosphere. If he really wants academics and fantastic football, there is no place better than ND. Maybe he is trying to connect with these two to find out how much team support and comradery they feel from the program. I do believe that we have a really good chance with him. And I would venture to guess that CW has an in with the dad. Plus, dad being Deion's OC, Charlie can chat his ear off. This could get really interesting.

[irishdan123084]

Having lived there, SB that is, most of my life. It's got plenty of student life. I mean, you're not going to meet any movie stars or get to watch hot bodies laying out in the quad all year round, but ND is definately a family atmosphere. If he really wants academics and fantastic football, there is no place better than ND. Maybe he is trying to connect with these two to find out how much team support and comradery they feel from the program. I do believe that we have a really good chance with him. And I would venture to guess that CW has an in with the dad. Plus, dad being Deion's OC, Charlie can chat his ear off. This could get really interesting.

From a student's perspective: if the football players take him out he is going to have a great time. there are a lot of student bars and even though the weather sucks, everyone seems to make it through the winter. and plus, wait till you guys see what ND is doing south of campus. i'm with a team helping to design the townhomes and mixed-use buildings that make up across the street just south of campus, and its going to turn out beautiful. its going to be loaded with residential, commercial, public parks, restaurants, etc. its going to really help out ND in many many ways.

[irishunclebill]

All of this info is exactly why Walker is contacting players, he may be somewhat skeptical about South Bend as Troy said, but the mere fact that he is contacting players shows a sincere interest.

Let's face it South Bend is not a garden spot, although compared to Columbus, it looks like Paris. On the other hand I have been to over 150 college campuses in the last 5 years and although I admit that I am biased, Notre Dame is far and away the best campus I have ever seen when you look at it from all aspects. The continued enhancements that IrishDan is talking about will only add to that.

BTW, just to show I am not completely biased, ND does not have the most beautiful campus in the country, that one goes to Pepperdine hands down.

[daytonirish]

Well hopefuuly someone in Walker's family knows about goldhelmet and is following this topic and is finding out that tthere is alot to do in SouthBend and it is only going to get better.

[NDGirlzRock]

From a student's perspective: if the football players take him out he is going to have a great time. there are a lot of student bars and even though the weather sucks, everyone seems to make it through the winter. and plus, wait till you guys see what ND is doing south of campus. i'm with a team helping to design the townhomes and mixed-use buildings that make up across the street just south of campus, and its going to turn out beautiful. its going to be loaded with residential, commercial, public parks, restaurants, etc. its going to really help out ND in many many ways.

Yeah...last time I was home for a visit I was blown away with the changes. No more Juniper Road. The old soccer fields gone, man do I have memories of playing for the Junior Irish on those. The new DeBartelo arts building....they blew a fortune on that slate roof let me tell you. By the way IDan....I'm in architecture and design myself.

[irishunclebill]

Nothing official from Walker yet on a Top 10, and a Top 10 list is still expected to be his next cutdown list, but info from 2 different recruiting sites seems to be indicating that ND may actually be in Walker's Top 5, and possibly Top 3. Deion is starting to talk very positively about his visit to ND. You have to like the things that are being said, however,

Caveat- Beware of the "Just Offered" afterglow effect.

[Fishin'_Irish]

BTW, just to show I am not completely biased, ND does not have the most beautiful campus in the country, that one goes to Pepperdine hands down.

I had a feeling we would lose him to Pepperdine. Crap.

[NDGirlzRock]

Nothing official from Walker yet on a Top 10, and a Top 10 list is still expected to be his next cutdown list, but info from 2 different recruiting sites seems to be indicating that ND may actually be in Walker's Top 5, and possibly Top 3. Deion is starting to talk very positively about his visit to ND. You have to like the things that are being said, however,

Caveat- Beware of the "Just Offered" afterglow effect.

Is that any relation to "Caveat emptore"?

[irishunclebill]

Is that any relation to "Caveat emptore"?

I guess that depends on whether you are the buyer or the seller.

[NDGirlzRock]

I guess that depends on whether you are the buyer or the seller.

Not sure which but I do hope that we build a mutual admoration society between ND and Deion & family.

[Irish93]

B&G confirmed the offer today.

[irishdan123084]

Any word when Walker thinks about committing. I remember reading a few weeks ago the 'Noles thought he was going to commit to them pretty soon (but that was before he visited ND).

[irishunclebill]

Any word when Walker thinks about committing. I remember reading a few weeks ago the 'Noles thought he was going to commit to them pretty soon (but that was before he visited ND).

Last comment from Deion was "sometime in October."

[daytonirish]

O.K. Maybe somewhere aroun Oct.20 say 8p.m. as we are celebrating our victory over the team from the west coast. That would be o.k. with me .

[marv81s]

even if he announces for usc or free shoes?

[daytonirish]

No he only announces on that day for N.D. sorry i wasn't clear on that.

[ND Fanatic]

even if he announces for usc or free shoes?

I think that I would take a USC win in exchange for Walker.

[NDGirlzRock]

I think that I would take a USC win in exchange for Walker.

Common guys have faith in this one. I think we stand a much better chance with Walker than most people think. I mean first, his dad is his OC. That means that CW can contact a close family member on a regular basis. Keepin' ND in his ear. They may talk offensive stuff, but you know that Dad is listening even more intently because it's his son. Second, the family is very religious, this lends itself very well to ND. Eventhough, the Walker family isn't Catholic, they still share the same values and ideals as our Lady. Big bonus there!!! Deion wants to major in programs that are very hot at ND right now, and we all know that ND's education is second to none. Finally, ND cares about their Student Athletes! CW and ND care about their players academic careers, their well being, and how they play football. In that order. Come October, I'm going on record here, Walker will commit to ND!

[daytonirish]

Hate to be greedy ND Fanatic, but no way can he announce for USC after we beat them this year.

[IrishKnight1023]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/news/story?id=2972544

ESPN article on Deion...

"I can graduate from a school like Notre Dame and basically be able to get a job anywhere I want. And at the same time, I can go to Florida State where they have a good reputation of setting you up for the NFL," Walker said.

[GhostSpirit]

Yeah Deion, a job anywhere you want. That includes the NFL.

[Svoboda]

Since 1990:

1990 3 68 Ronald Lewis WR San Francisco
1990 11 281 Terry Anthony WR Tampa Bay
1991 3 66 Lawrence Dawsey WR Tampa Bay
1993 8 205 Shannon Baker WR Atlanta
1994 6 192 Kevin Knox WR Buffalo
1995 3 81 Tamarick Vanover WR Kansas City
1995 5 156 Kez McCorvey WR Detroit
1995 5 162 'Omar Ellison WR San Diego
1996 6 199 Phillip Riley WR Philadelphia
1998 3 71 E.G. Green WR Indianapolis
2000 1 4 Peter Warrick WR Cincinnati
2000 3 66 Ron Dugans WR Cincinnati
2000 3 78 Laveranues Coles WR N.Y. Jets
2001 3 77 Marvin Minnis WR Kansas City
2002 1 20 Javon Walker WR Green Bay
2003 2 54 Anquan Boldin WR Arizona
2003 7 231 Talman Gardner WR New Orleans
2004 5 164 P.K. Sam WR New England
2005 4 116 Craphonso Thorpe WR Kansas City
2006 3 95 Willie Reid WR Pittsburgh

And for Notre Dame:

1991 4 100 Raghib Ismail WR L.A. Raiders
1992 6 159 Tony Smith WR Kansas City
1994 3 92 Lake Dawson WR Kansas City
1995 5 147 Mike Miller WR Cleveland
1996 2 56 Derrick Mayes WR Green Bay
1999 5 166 Malcolm Johnson WR Pittsburgh
2002 6 206 Javin Hunter WR Baltimore
2002 7 253 David Givens WR New England
2003 6 197 Arnaz Battle WR San Francisco
2006 3 90 Maurice Stovall WR Tampa Bay

Considering we have been primarily a run first team prior to Charlie's arrival, to have sent 10 wideouts to the league is pretty solid. Additionally, the fact FSU has had all that talent and only sent 20, with probably only 3-4 of them having successful NFL careers tells me all I need to know.

[IrishKnight1023]

Nice info Svo.

[rontdtarchala]

really nice info amigo

[DiamDawg]

Here's the little bigger snippet of the article that references the ND/FSU comment ... adding the previous paragragh changes the entire context of his statement ....

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/news/story?id=2972544


ESPN 150 WR Deion Walker preparing for next level
By Jamar Hudson
ESPN.com

"I've been on a couple of visits," Walker said. "I just want to get into the best situation for me."


In searching for that best situation, Walker has a thought process not often found in recruits in this day and age. While he understands and has a desire to go to a school where he can grow as a football player, he also has the realization that one also needs a backup plan.


"I can graduate from a school like Notre Dame and basically be able to get a job anywhere I want. And at the same time, I can go to Florida State where they have a good reputation of setting you up for the NFL," Walker said.




Its a free article and i would ahve posted it all but am new here and not familiar with the rules on posting articles ... just thought U all may wanna see this statement in its entire context ..

[irishunclebill]

Here's the little bigger snippet of the article that references the ND/FSU comment ... adding the previous paragragh changes the entire context of his statement ....

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/news/story?id=2972544


ESPN 150 WR Deion Walker preparing for next level
By Jamar Hudson
ESPN.com

"I've been on a couple of visits," Walker said. "I just want to get into the best situation for me."


In searching for that best situation, Walker has a thought process not often found in recruits in this day and age. While he understands and has a desire to go to a school where he can grow as a football player, he also has the realization that one also needs a backup plan.


"I can graduate from a school like Notre Dame and basically be able to get a job anywhere I want. And at the same time, I can go to Florida State where they have a good reputation of setting you up for the NFL," Walker said.




Its a free article and i would ahve posted it all but am new here and not familiar with the rules on posting articles ... just thought U all may wanna see this statement in its entire context ..

DiamDawg- If it's a free article you can post any part of it as long as you reference the source. We prefer that you do not post all of the article as they do not always stay free, but you can post like the first 2 paragraphs followed by ..., so the reader knows there is more to read in the link.

However, the most important thing to do is post the link to the article you are referencing, even if it has been posted before in the same thread. I have edited your post to add the link. That's about all there is to it, so keep on posting.

[93FSUSUX]

This is the 1st thread I've read since becoming a registered viewer. So yeah...DJ Hord should see some action on the field this year. lol Would be nice to have an great talent like Walker for years to come though.

[daytonirish]

Kinda hope Deion's father does his homework as wee as Svoboda does. Fla St. may have sent more wr to the nfl, but when you compare what type of off.each team ran I think you have to be impressed with N.D. record of sending wr to the nfl and when you look at what has happened since Charlie's been coach you would think it would give N.D. a good chance with Deion.

[daytonirish]

B&G is reporting something that looks like it says that we are out of it for the services for Mr. Walker at this time. Could this be the real reason Harper got his offer?

[irishunclebill]

B&G is reporting something that looks like it says that we are out of it for the services for Mr. Walker at this time. Could this be the real reason Harper got his offer?

Not sure we were ever in it, but it is doubtful that Harper's offer has anything to do with Walker. The turnaround time between the 2 offers is too short and it seems unlikely that Walker would have told the ND staff that he has completely no interest in the Irish less than a week after he received an offer that he tried pretty hard to get. Anything is possible though, but there are conflicting reports on Walker's status with ND coming from lots of different media outlets. In any case Walker was always a longshot for ND especially considering how late the Irish offered.

Just as an aside, I'm not sure that the B&G source is the same, but I heard that one of the guys over there is maintaining that his info is that ND is still in the hunt for Patchan, and no one else is agreeing with that, especially the horse's mouth himself, Matt Patchan.

[IrishKnight1023]

http://www.blueandgold.com/content/?aid=4145

*Recruiting has obviously slowed down, as it had to due to the huge number of early commitments from some of the nation’s best. It appears that Etienne Sabino, Matt Patchan and Deion Walker are no longer options for the Irish, but shed no tears. All three are great student-athletes and very nice young men, but they do not play positions of dire need for the Irish in the class of 2008.

[irishunclebill]

http://www.blueandgold.com/content/?aid=4145

*Recruiting has obviously slowed down, as it had to due to the huge number of early commitments from some of the nation’s best. It appears that Etienne Sabino, Matt Patchan and Deion Walker are no longer options for the Irish, but shed no tears. All three are great student-athletes and very nice young men, but they do not play positions of dire need for the Irish in the class of 2008.

Exactly my point, it is the same guy. Silver has done quite a few 360's in the last week. He is the one who had ND not only still in it for Patchan earlier this week, but also as the semifinalist for his services. His predictions are probably correct, but they are taking on too much of a gnarus like quality for my tastes.

[Irish93]

I also just heard from my source that we are out of the running for Walker.

[marv81s]

got in the game too late for him

my bet is that its between Free Shoes U and University of Spoiled Children and I'll say he'll pick Free Shoes. No source, just my gut feeling.

[NDGirlzRock]

got in the game too late for him

my bet is that its between Free Shoes U and University of Spoiled Children and I'll say he'll pick Free Shoes. No source, just my gut feeling.

Are you sure that's not University of Spoiled Chicken? My guess is free shoes U also!

[Irish93]

I'll say PSU (just for the heck of it).

[irishziggy]

http://notredame.scout.com/a.z?s=109&p=2&c=675161

"--He also likes and is considering taking official visits to Nebraska and Notre Dame. "Nebraska really surprised me when I visited them," he said. "It's nothing but football there. I really liked that."

Although he wasn't there in person, Walker said he did watch most of the Notre Dame loss to Georgia Tech. "It surprised me that they lost like that," Walker said. "But it showed that they need wide receivers and made me think that it might be a good place to be and do some things. They definitely tried to throw the ball, but are just having trouble moving it down the field. They will need receivers and their offense will only continue to get better." --"

[stew654]

http://notredame.scout.com/a.z?s=109&p=2&c=675161

"--He also likes and is considering taking official visits to Nebraska and Notre Dame. "Nebraska really surprised me when I visited them," he said. "It's nothing but football there. I really liked that."

Although he wasn't there in person, Walker said he did watch most of the Notre Dame loss to Georgia Tech. "It surprised me that they lost like that," Walker said. "But it showed that they need wide receivers and made me think that it might be a good place to be and do some things. They definitely tried to throw the ball, but are just having trouble moving it down the field. They will need receivers and their offense will only continue to get better." --"


It has been hard to get a read on Deion, seems like he likes everybody. Would be great to add him to the class but i say with a name like deion where else would he wind up then fsu :mad:

[JMR8]

I want another D-Walk! Darius is gone, it's Deion time.

[BleedingB&G]

According to ESPN we are still in his top 5.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/briefingroom?playerId=47309

[Irish93]

We are on the outside looking in.

[Akron Irish]

After we shock the world on Saturday....we're back in

[Sweeney6083]

this year we are going to shock the world every week

[5th Horseman]

He's visiting Penn State this weekend (If i read ir right) , so maybe we can gain a few points with him there....

[irishunclebill]

This is the original source of the ESPN blurb where Walker says ND is in his Top 5.

http://www.goupstate.com/article/20070902/PSPORTS02/70903003/-1/PSPORTS


September 02, 2007
Walker Planning To Watch USC & Clemson
By Phil Kornblut

USC and Clemson aren't in the top five with WR Deion Walker (6-3 188) of Christchurch, VA right now, but he said he plans to visit both this season to watch games. Walker said his current top five are Penn State, NC State, Florida State, Nebraska and Notre Dame. He is scheduled for an official visit to Penn State this weekend. Walker also wants to Virginia Tech and Southern Cal before he makes his decision......

The two sentences in bold were not in the ESPN blurb and show how distorted a view you can get when you just pick parts of a story to put in a headline. Walker is claiming that USC is not in his Top 5 but he is planning on taking an Official Visit there as well as to VT before he makes a decision. ND, Nebraska and NC State are supposed to be in his Top 5, but there is no mention of any visits to those places at all, although he will at least get a chance to see JC in action this weekend. If Jimmy can light it up at Happy Valley, Walker's eyes may open a bit, otherwise this is a PSU, FSU, USC battle despite what was mentioned in the ESPN blurb.

[irishunclebill]

More on Walker. Only other scheduled Official besides PSU this weekend is FSU on 10/6. Also said again that he is definitely going to take an Official to USC but has not yet set a date. As to his other 2 Official Visits, he mentions scUM, Nebraska, LSU, Texas, and Cal as possibilities, but nary a mention of the Irish. I'm afraid there is just a whole lot of posturing going on here with regards to the Irish being in his Top 5.

[irishunclebill]

Things may be looking up on the Walker front as there is a report that he will be making an Official Visit to ND for the Navy game on 11/3.

[Flyin_Irish]

That would be great to get him in here for a game where we can sling the ball around and actually win decisively (I hope).

[marv81s]

After the way GT ran on ND on the outside, that Navy game has me pretty concerned, still no way ND should ever lose that game, but I do have serious concerns about stopping their rushing attack

[IrishKnight1023]

ESPN sure would love that story if Navy beats us. I can see it now "Are ND fans tired of Charlie Weis already?" Uh no you're the only douchebags making it a story.

[notredomer23]

After the way GT ran on ND on the outside, that Navy game has me pretty concerned, still no way ND should ever lose that game, but I do have serious concerns about stopping their rushing attack

I was originally worried about that too, but seeing they only beat TEMPLE 30-19, im not worried

[irishziggy]

I was originally worried about that too, but seeing they only beat TEMPLE 30-19, im not worried


Temple is still at the bottom half of college football, but Al Golden's a great coach, and they'll be on the rise in the coming years. Playing in the MAC, they'll start producing wins which will help their recruiting. And I think they'll end up like Rutgers, and maybe gettin back into the big east in the next 10 yrs.

But I agree, Navy will not beat us.

[tchris555]

Temple is still at the bottom half of college football, but Al Golden's a great coach, and they'll be on the rise in the coming years. Playing in the MAC, they'll start producing wins which will help their recruiting. And I think they'll end up like Rutgers, and maybe gettin back into the big east in the next 10 yrs.

But I agree, Navy will not beat us.

i disagree, golden seems like a good coach or atleast that's been his reputation (atleast recruiter) but Temple has much less to offer than Rutgers does. NJ/NY kids will strongly consider Rutgers with Schiano. Not as many will consider Temple, unless the ghost of Vince Lombardi is their coach.

A buddy of mine went on a recruiting trip to Temple and wanted to leave as soon as he got there.