’08 KS ATH Chris Harper (Oregon LOI)

[irishunclebill]

Chris Harper - Athlete
Wichita (KS) Northwest

Links of Interest: Rivals Profile (http://notredame.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=57241)

Height: 6 foot-2
Weight: 231 lbs.

Combine
Forty: 4.45
Bench Reps:
Bench Max:
Squat Max:
Shuttle:
Vertical:
GPA:

Star Ratings
Rivals.com: ****
Scout.com: ****

Rankings & Accolades
Rivals 250 #156 Rivals National Athlete #26 Rivals Kansas Top 10 #2
Scout 300 #297 Scout National RB #36
ESPN 150 #148 ESPN National Athlete #17


Statistics
2006-
2007-

Schools of Interest
Kansas State
Missouri
Nebraska
Notre Dame
Oklahoma State
Texas A&M
California
Kansas

[irishunclebill]

Chris Harper

[scooper]

Without the accolades, he physically reminds me of Greg Little.

[irishunclebill]

Harper was an attendee at the Potential College Player Day in mid-May at Arthur Brown’s school, Wichita East High School. This combine was attended by Pete Carroll, Bob Stoops, Dan Hawkins, Urban Meyer, and Mark Mangino, among others.

They were mostly there to see the Brown brothers, but apparently Harper was the second most impressive Junior athlete there after Arthur Brown. Harper is primarily a RB in High School, but he worked out as a QB and WR at the combine. Some of the coaches commented that Harper was even more physically impressive than Brown, and his athletic versatility led to talk that he was capable of playing Safety, LB, and possibly even DE, (in ND’s case an OLB in the 3-4) in addition to RB, QB, and WR. Rival & Scout both have Harper as a 3 star and he was on the ESPN 150 Watch List at #130 as of 5/17/07. Harper is a very raw talent from a state not particularly known for producing great talent until the Brown brothers came along. To be considered the 2nd best athlete and 2nd best prospect in you state when Arthur Brown is #1 is not too shabby.

All of the schools listed above with the exception of Notre Dame have offered Harper, but there must be some mutual interest as Harper is making an unofficial visit to South Bend this Friday. Notre Dame seems to be interested in Harper as a OLB and this trip is most likely Harper trying to see if he can get an offer from the Irish. Harper may be a Plan B OLB if things do not work out with Sabino much as Compton is a Plan B if things do not work out with Filer. I would be surprised to see Harper leave with an offer, but the staff should know after the visit whether he is a potential offer. In any case, great athleticism is never anything to sneeze at, so it should be an interesting visit.

[irishunclebill]

A source close to the team (don't you just love that phrasing) who is turning out to be a very reliable source is claiming that Corwin Brown is very high on young Mr. Harper. There also seems to be some indication ND may also be looking at Harper as a potential WR. It could be that Harper's chances of leaving with an offer just went up a notch.

[scooper]

The kid is a physical freak. It will be interesting to see what happens with his stock this season-especially if USC, OU and ND are snooping around.

[notredomer23]

is it just me or does he look like arthur brown?

[stonebreakerwasgod]

It's his stunt double.

[irishunclebill]

is it just me or does he look like arthur brown?


Must be that Kansas thang'

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I think we should give 23 negative reps for looking that closely at a dude. :)

[rontdtarchala]

anyone have any video on him

[irishunclebill]

Mike Ragone may not be on campus, but Chris Harper is. He got into South Bend last night ahead of schedule.

[rontdtarchala]

no fire but there is definitely some smoke

[irishunclebill]

and POOF!!, just like that he is gone, on his way to scUM land. Harper as expected left without an offer, but with the understanding that he is offerable. (is that a word?) Anyway, Harper is being recruited as a Plan B WR, not an OLB, which makes me feel better about how the staff feels about Sabino. Harper may never see an ND offer though because it is unlikely that he will wait, ala Compton, for a potential Plan B offer. He may have already gave one of the infamous "silent verbals" to K-State as Rivals list them as the only HIGH college of choice for Harper.

[rontdtarchala]

Next!!!

[NDGirlzRock]

Just watched some video of him from a Nike camp...also had the Trevster on it...and I have to say that I wasn't impressed. Of course the vid was of him playing QB, but if I can throw better than he can and I'm a 36 yr old woman, something ain't right.

[rontdtarchala]

36 huh and here I thought you were barely in your 20's...and strong arms you go ndgr...like I said... next...we have bigger fish to fry

[NDGirlzRock]

Hey 36 but look 26!!! Trust me on that one. Congrats on your 300th post ront.

[rontdtarchala]

thank you kindly and here here on the two six...must be nice...I don't look bad considering I crossed the reed sea with moses

[NDGirlzRock]

Hey all of you GH posters....

AGE IS A STATE OF MIND!!!

Hell if I had to I'd suit up and win one for the Gipper at 85. Watch out boys I'm blazing down the sideline with my walker.

[IrishKnight1023]

He left ND's campus without an offer, it's a good sign that we're still in good standing with the guys already offered ahead of him.

[Ricochet]

I would still love to bring this kid to ND as an athlete and let Weis or Brown find were he's best suited. Harper is a special athlete, freakish athlete. I would love to see him as a SS.

[Svoboda]

Harper will get an offer is McCarthy does not verbal.

[NDGirlzRock]

By the way...

100 posts!!!

[IrishCalves]

Harper will get an offer is McCarthy does not verbal.

Bold prediction, or stone cold lead pipe lock?

[Svoboda]

Prediction. They're recruiting him as a wideout, but his frame just screams defense to me, especially after getting college conditioning and chow.

[scooper]

I know they talk about him as a linebacker, but at his speed, does anybody have any thoughts on taking a guy that size to play strong safety? I have no idea about his footwork, so I don't know. Straight line speed isn't always enough.

But back in the day, one of my favorite Bengals was big ol David Fulcher who ran like a safety but was as big as a LB. He was a headhunter back there.

Getting smacked in the mouth by a 6-2 230 lb. freight train coming at them at a 4.45 clip might make opposing WR's think twice about going across the middle.

[NDGirlzRock]

Ok this kid may be a great athlete, but we have so much talent on our boards. Why do we need to take a project if we already have someone who actually plays the position and can press for playing time early. Maybe a few years ago, but not now. Start changing the way you think about recruiting. Rock-on-Irish!!!

[scooper]

Ok this kid may be a great athlete, but we have so much talent on our boards. Why do we need to take a project if we already have someone who actually plays the position and can press for playing time early. Maybe a few years ago, but not now. Start changing the way you think about recruiting. Rock-on-Irish!!!It's because we have so much talent and have the holes filled that we can bring in uber-athletes and see where they fit.

I don't think it's out of the question to say Courtney Watson and Justin Tuck have been the best two defenders at ND over the last decade. Watson came in as a two star RB. Tuck as a two star TE-but both were athletic as hell.

That's how Miami built their great defenses of the 90's. They brought in athletes and found places for them to play. They made safeties and RB's into extremely athletic LB's. They made LB's into lightning quick D-linemen. Did you know Warren Sapp was a tight end in high school? They didn't need to change the way they were thinking just because they were on top. They took the athletes and made them great football players.

Last year, people were falling over themselves to get Greg Little as a WR. Yes, the same Greg Little who was primarily a RB in HS and showed poor hands at camps. Yet somehow he was our answer at WR.

I'm not saying you load up on these guys and depend on them. I'm saying if you fill your needs (which we are doing) and have space, take one or two and find a place to display their athletic prowess.

I'm not even saying this kid should get an offer, but what if McCarthy goes to anOSU and the staff wants a safety? What if we only get one of Filer/Sabino and Will Compton opts elsewhere? Why not take a guy with this guy's physical stature and ability and see what he can do?

[napoleonbuck]

These are the types of kids that you bring in and work out at three different positions until you find the right one. Tressel loves athletic players that can play multiple positions, because if they don't work out at one position, you can move them around until they find their right spot. We do that a lot with WR/S prospects, RB/WR, LB/SS. Sometimes it's better to give a spot to a top flight athlete and develop him than it is to take the more polished high school player, and this is especially true if your coaches are good at developing talent. Ohio State has done a great job with two and three star secondary prospects that were excellent athletes in high school, but not polished defensive backs. Sometimes it's easier to mold a raw prospect than it is to mold an already polished one. We take a lot of high school running backs and quarterbacks and turn them into defensive backs. You just need to trust the coaching.

[goirish41]

It's because we have so much talent and have the holes filled that we can bring in uber-athletes and see where they fit.

I don't think it's out of the question to say Courtney Watson and Justin Tuck have been the best two defenders at ND over the last decade. Watson came in as a two star RB. Tuck as a two star TE-but both were athletic as hell.

That's how Miami built their great defenses of the 90's. They brought in athletes and found places for them to play. They made safeties and RB's into extremely athletic LB's. They made LB's into lightning quick D-linemen. Did you know Warren Sapp was a tight end in high school? They didn't need to change the way they were thinking just because they were on top. They took the athletes and made them great football players.

Last year, people were falling over themselves to get Greg Little as a WR. Yes, the same Greg Little who was primarily a RB in HS and showed poor hands at camps. Yet somehow he was our answer at WR.

I'm not saying you load up on these guys and depend on them. I'm saying if you fill your needs (which we are doing) and have space, take one or two and find a place to display their athletic prowess.

I'm not even saying this kid should get an offer, but what if McCarthy goes to anOSU and the staff wants a safety? What if we only get one of Filer/Sabino and Will Compton opts elsewhere? Why not take a guy with this guy's physical stature and ability and see what he can do?

great post scoop ... could not agree with you more. I wouldn't mind if ND pulled in 1 or 2 of these freakish athletic guys a year. The coaches at the Kansas camp he attended were all talking about different positions they could see Harper projecting to. RB, WR, DB, LB, ... and I think he plays QB in HS. You can't go wrong bringing in a guy like Harper. With his size and speed, he could help you 100 different ways.

[scooper]

great post scoop ... could not agree with you more. I wouldn't mind if ND pulled in 1 or 2 of these freakish athletic guys a year. The coaches at the Kansas camp he attended were all talking about different positions they could see Harper projecting to. RB, WR, DB, LB, ... and I think he plays QB in HS. You can't go wrong bringing in a guy like Harper. With his size and speed, he could help you 100 different ways.

I think his playing QB in high school works against him as far as rankings go, which may scare off fans who know nothing more about him than a rivals profile. I'm not saying I do, but I know schools like Oklahoma and USC are paying close attention to him this year and his recruitment could very well blow up. The film on this kid is as a QB. Well, he's not going to be a QB in college. That just happens to be the position where he can most help his high school team.

[Grady]

I agree with you scoop. You've convinced me.

[paddyman]

The front page of II has a premium article about him. It states he projects as a WR in College and that after his ND visit he may be seeing an offer. If so does this bode as ill news reagrding Baldwin or floyd or brown?

[IrishCalves]

The front page of II has a premium article about him. It states he projects as a WR in College and that after his ND visit he may be seeing an offer. If so does this bode as ill news reagrding Baldwin or floyd or brown?

I don't think its ill news, so much as ND thinking this guy could be what they're looking for along with the others listed. Just my take.

[irishunclebill]

The front page of II has a premium article about him. It states he projects as a WR in College and that after his ND visit he may be seeing an offer. If so does this bode as ill news reagrding Baldwin or floyd or brown?

Harper will get an offer only if there is an open slot available at WR. The purpose of his trip was to make sure that he was qualified to get an ND offer, which he is. CB really likes Harper, but he is a Plan B WR, and may never see an offer because he will probably commit before ND even thinks about offering him.

[paddyman]

I don't think its ill news, so much as ND thinking this guy could be what they're looking for along with the others listed. Just my take.

It is just that we have a limited number of scholies left (i think it is as many as eight). two of which i believe are reserved until Feb. (Please correct me if i am wrong), with one of those for Floyd. I know Baldwin is not a must get and it looks like this kid is a bit more athletic than baldwin. Also i think that brownprojects at WR/DB. If we land McCarthy we might be good at BD and then what does that do for our WR. Do we take Brown or Floyd.

Anyway it is a little early to be thinking about it even though he has not been offered, but he seems to think one is coming.

[paddyman]

Harper will get an offer only if there is an open slot available at WR. The purpose of his trip was to make sure that he was qualified to get an ND offer, which he is. CB really likes Harper, but he is a Plan B WR, and may never see an offer because he will probably commit before ND even thinks about offering him.

Thanks IUB, it just seems to me that more programs are starting to take note of this young man, and i would hate to miss out on a talented athlete. I have not heard really anything about him until about this past two weeks.

[irishunclebill]

ND would love to have him as well. In a different year, he would already have an offer. He is a great athlete, but no matter what position he is going to play, he will be a project. For that reason the elite programs are not going to offer until they are sure they have a slot. By that time Harper will probably be a commit to KSU. An offer from a Michigan, OSU, or Nebraska might change that though.

[irishunclebill]

Harper seems to think he will get an ND offer pretty soon. If he does it may have more to do with Butler than Brown, Floyd, or Baldwin. They may be trying to figure out if there is a slot available for him.

[Jiggafini19]

This kid has to find his niche. Get into the right position at the right program. Whoever gets him is getting a great player.

I hope ND does get into the mix and he comes in as a linebacker with Filer. Mr. Sabino is still riding ND as dark horse and not a white steed.

[GhostSpirit]

Harper may get offered sooner than later. At WR this guy will be a beast, but also with great speed. Question is, how are his hands? Tons of potential here though.

[Fishin'_Irish]

He'd make an ungodly fast LB.

[IrishKnight1023]

He'd make an ungodly fast LB.

-------I'd prefer him at OLB in our defense, but since there is 0 film of him on defense I'll just go by his measurables. If we lose out on Sabino I'd MUCH rather him get an offer than Compton due to we don't need another ILB on top of Poz. McDonald and most likely Filer, we need OLB's!

[irishunclebill]

Harper is becoming the second coming of Jeremy Brown discussion. IMO, Harper would also be a beast at OLB, but my opinion does not count for squat either on Harper or Brown, because in both cases, the ND coaching staff is looking at them as WR's. Sabino coming or not coming will not directly affect Harper getting an offer. However, Butler's signing with FSU or USC may get him an offer, unless Jeremy Brown signs on before Butler announces on 8/1. The only difference between Brown & Harper is that Harper is a wild card guy, meaning that if at the end of the day, all the position requirements are filled, and there is still a slot#24 open, then Harper could get that slot. I also do not think that Sabino's decision will have an affect on Compton one way or the other. The only way Compton gets an offer is if Filer does not end up Irish.

[grungejunky]

without seeing any film he intrigues me but i also think this is a case where the star system gets people's pants in a bunch. if he gets one more star and is a 4 star people would be slobbering all over this kid because his measurables are insane. since he is only a 3 star people consider him a fall back guy. bottom line is if he gets an offer he earned it regardless of fallback scenarios and there are a couple positions he is intrigueing at specifically wr, lb, or rb. hell the kid can probably line up at any position on his high school team. i'd be happy to have him on board.

[IrishKnight1023]

without seeing any film he intrigues me but i also think this is a case where the star system gets people's pants in a bunch. if he gets one more star and is a 4 star people would be slobbering all over this kid because his measurables are insane. since he is only a 3 star people consider him a fall back guy. bottom line is if he gets an offer he earned it regardless of fallback scenarios and there are a couple positions he is intrigueing at specifically wr, lb, or rb. hell the kid can probably line up at any position on his high school team. i'd be happy to have him on board.

------People consider him a 2nd tier player because he still doesn't have an offer and its passed the middle of July. We offered all of our scholarships back in Feb., Mar. and April. Nobody is saying he isn't a great talent, but it's not like he has offers from us as of yet, or USC, or even UF's uncommittable fake offers.

[GhostSpirit]

without seeing any film he intrigues me but i also think this is a case where the star system gets people's pants in a bunch. if he gets one more star and is a 4 star people would be slobbering all over this kid because his measurables are insane. since he is only a 3 star people consider him a fall back guy. bottom line is if he gets an offer he earned it regardless of fallback scenarios and there are a couple positions he is intrigueing at specifically wr, lb, or rb. hell the kid can probably line up at any position on his high school team. i'd be happy to have him on board.

I don't understand what you are saying here. Prospects get the number of stars that they have earned. Of course if he had 4 stars we'd want him more, because that would mean he had that kind of talent. It's not like recruiting analysts just throw a ranking on a guy by looking at him. You haven't seen film on him either. Yeah, his measurables are insane, but so is the guy's that lives across the street from me. You got to take everything into account. What position he is projected at, competition (freakin' Kansas), how he plays in games (does he dog it sometimes), talent, etc. I'm as big of fan of this kid as anyone, but yeah he is a fallback guy. Chris has the potential to be a great player but right now he's a 3 star prospect.

[scooper]

I don't understand what you are saying here. Prospects get the number of stars that they have earned. Of course if he had 4 stars we'd want him more, because that would mean he had that kind of talent. It's not like recruiting analysts just throw a ranking on a guy by looking at him. You haven't seen film on him either. Yeah, his measurables are insane, but so is the guy's that lives across the street from me. You got to take everything into account. What position he is projected at, competition (freakin' Kansas), how he plays in games (does he dog it sometimes), talent, etc. I'm as big of fan of this kid as anyone, but yeah he is a fallback guy. Chris has the potential to be a great player but right now he's a 3 star prospect.


Yes and no. You are correct that he has the stars that he has earned, but it's hard to say at this point that it's because of talent. It may have just as much to do with position and opportunity.

If the guy had been a full time WR or LB all along, who knows how he would have played? He may still be a three star, but who knows? He may be a four star. I wonder what drills he has done in camps, because all the film that's out there shows him at QB.

I know one thing, college coaches and internet scouts will be watching him closely early in his season. We should know pretty early if he is ultimately a three or four star guy.

It will also be interesting to watch his offers. ND is in a different position right now from schools like USC and UF that are watching him because we're about full. With the Irish, it's time to put up or shut up. If they're going to offer him, it will be soon. There is still room at USC and UF, so they can take more of a wait and see approach.

I see it this way-see what happens over the next couple weeks with four guys-Filer, Sabino Floyd and Brown. I know they like this kid at WR, but if the staff feels they may only get one of the two remaining LB's, why not take a chance on a guy whose athletic ability is probably better than any of the LBs on board. That is if we get one of the two-I don't want to risk it all on just a project-no matter how talented.

As for WR, the same goes. Taking Brown and Harper would be a risky proposition to fill out the WR corps. So see what Floyd does. If he jumps on board and Brown doesn't, but they want to hedge their bets with a third guy without being sure on Baldwin, take Harper. If late in the game Baldwin wants in, take him anyway if there's room.

There is rumor, though, that the staff really likes Harper and he may get an offer sooner rather than later. Though I can't vouch for the validity of this.

[NDisNCin2010]

looks like Harper has a Top 5 per Scout.
curious if he has us on there without an offer to this point.

[The Army Awakens]

yes

[rontdtarchala]

it does appear to be getting interesting

[futurendcoach]

Everybody just needs to quit getting all hot in thier pants.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Why the negative reps coach?? :)

[NDisNCin2010]

so to summarize the Harper recruitment:

is Harper getting an offer if J Brown commits on his upcoming visit AND Butler announces for FSU/USC (anyone but ND)? or perhpas Brown doesnt matter and all just dependent on Butler going elsewhere?

[Ricochet]

With 2 CB's and Safety in this class I would rather see Weis & Co. roll the dice and take Chris Harper as an athlete over Jeremy Brown. I like Brown as CB but not so much as a WR. I would just like to see them get Harper to South Bend and then after working with him find where he's best suited for.

[irish4]

i don't care where he lines up i just want to see him in an irish uniform.

[YoungIrish]

I want to see him get an offer...he should get the #24 spot...The kid looks ripped...Hes versatile...I wonder how long hes willing to wait to see if ND offers..

[tedwick]

I want to see him get an offer...he should get the #24 spot...The kid looks ripped...Hes versatile...I wonder how long hes willing to wait to see if ND offers..i'd rather have the spot open for a 5th year than take harper. i'm sure he's a great player. but first off, we should be shooting for 20-21 guys a year. one of charlie's goals was to even out the classes after that behemoth 28-player class. we can't keep going 24/25 players then only having room for like 16 or 17 guys the next year.

second, with 24 guys in this class, we'd have room for only one senior out of 7 to come back. there are a bunch of guys that have the possibility to contribute more than a 3* ath/wr. there's mo crum, who's on a couple preseason watch lists already, there's vernaglia and jabbie, who showed promise in the spring, there's lambert, who's a pretty reliable corner for ND standards, and there's justin brown, who would provide experience to a really young DLine. i mean, there are some recruits this year which i'd say "yeah, i could go with only one 5th year to get this guy." due respect to mr. harper, but he's not one of those guys.

remember... '08 might be the first year in a championship window. do you think chris harper could help ND get there more than, say, lambert, brown, or vernaglia? i'd say no. if we take a guy at 24, he has to contribute immediately, imo, because our championship hopes start in '08.

[YoungIrish]

I thought we could take 24 and two 5th year seniors could come back....Lambert and Crum..I think thats all we need...unless Justin Brown just went off...Vernaglia has been a disapointment..and Junior Jabbie wont get to many touches b/c of the other 4 running backs..

[tedwick]

I thought we could take 24 and two 5th year seniors could come back....Lambert and Crum..I think thats all we need...unless Justin Brown just went off...Vernaglia has been a disapointment..and Junior Jabbie wont get to many touches b/c of the other 4 running backs..my bad. it does appear to be two. however, i still think vernaglia or brown would be able to contribute more than harper would. (word on the street is that vernaglia fits into brown's scheme very well.) further, i think some of the other guys on our board would be able to contribute more than harper would.

[YoungIrish]

Naa you gotta take Harper over a 5th year guy unless its Crum or Lambert...Heck maybe Crum or Lambert will go pro then some other player can get their spot..but I think we need to take this talent..Specially Harper..kids a freak..anyone else agree or am I just the only one..I think 5th year players will be a thing of the pass now...You have 4 years to play and prove yourself and then you graduate...We just dont have room anymore if THIS is the kid of recruiting classes were going to be bringing in..

[HoffVir]

Naa you gotta take Harper over a 5th year guy unless its Crum or Lambert...Heck maybe Crum or Lambert will go pro then some other player can get their spot..but I think we need to take this talent..Specially Harper..kids a freak..anyone else agree or am I just the only one..I think 5th year players will be a thing of the pass now...You have 4 years to play and prove yourself and then you graduate...We just dont have room anymore if THIS is the kid of recruiting classes were going to be bringing in..

I agree with you that 5th years will become a thing of the past. With the talent ND is getting, more kids may be leaving after their 3rd and 4th years for the NFL, or even not asked back for a 5th because they wouldn't start over a younger player.

I've said before, I'll say it again, you bring back a guy for a 5th year if he is a starter over a frosh.

[Fishin'_Irish]

If the guy starts, there's no question that you ask him back, in my opinion. I know he didn't have a year left, but let's pretend. Do you want one more year of the Shark, or four more of Richard Jackson? (I realize this wasn't an actual scenario, pretend it was.)

[HoffVir]

If the guy starts, there's no question that you ask him back, in my opinion. I know he didn't have a year left, but let's pretend. Do you want one more year of the Shark, or four more of Richard Jackson? (I realize this wasn't an actual scenario, pretend it was.)

Bingo.

Now someone like Justin Brown or Anthony Vernaglia are going to have to earn a spot. Just being an experienced body might not cut it.

[YoungIrish]

If there as good as Jeff there going to the Pros....

[HoffVir]

If there as good as Jeff there going to the Pros....

Also a very good point. Using Jeff was just an example, but if they are at his level, talent wise, you're right, they will be going to the NFL 90% of the time.

[tedwick]

i dunno. chris harper seems like our plan e for wide recievers right now. i mean, we've got serious interest from butler, baldwin, walker, amongst others. heck. i would rather have jeremy brown at wr over harper, although that's no longer an option... i would rather that 85th spot on the roster be filled with a guy with either experience or extreme talent. sadly, harper doesn't fit that mold. if nothing else, taking an extra 5th year gives one more spot for the class of '09. if we do well in '08, what kind of recruit would we be shutting out because we took harper?

[HoffVir]

i dunno. chris harper seems like our plan e for wide recievers right now. i mean, we've got serious interest from butler, baldwin, walker, amongst others. heck. i would rather have jeremy brown at wr over harper, although that's no longer an option... i would rather that 85th spot on the roster be filled with a guy with either experience or extreme talent. sadly, harper doesn't fit that mold. if nothing else, taking an extra 5th year gives one more spot for the class of '09. if we do well in '08, what kind of recruit would we be shutting out because we took harper?

If Charlie is willing to offer a prospect this year (Harper), that's good enough for me. I'll bet if ND strikes out on a 3rd WR even after offering Harper, Walker, Butler, Baldwin ... Charlie might stop with the WR offers.

[YoungIrish]

Have you seen him...his video..kid is crazy good...He might get bumped up to a four star on rivals I heard...plus Charlie offered him...sounds good to me...I dont think Deion Walker will pick ND...FSU or USC battle...Butler..man I wish..after talking to him I got excited..but I dunno..FSU is a tough one to beat..but alot of people I talked to from that area said he didnt wanna go there b/c his dad did and he wants to make his own name..and he said the rumor of him going to USC was bs...so pretty much leaves ND...but I just am not as confident as I once was...and then Baldwin..hes just gonna take his time..I think he wants to play BBall and FOotball...Were gonna have a bball/football team with the same roster if he comes...Rudolph and Him and whoever else...JBrown left...So I think we will offer Harper...but it wont be for awhile..maybe after the Butler announcement and after Floyd announces..but the kid just looks like hes built to play college football..and if we offer it doesnt mean hes gonna hop on the train..I heard he really wnats to play QB...but know one is looking at him for that position..5th year players are good..in the past we needed them to survive..but I just think were moving away from those time now...Atleast it sure looks that way...

[JerseyDomer]

you realize that in the same post you said Charlie offered him and then you said I hope we offer?

Harper has no ND offer

[NDGirlzRock]

you realize that in the same post you said Charlie offered him and then you said I hope we offer?

Harper has no ND offer

Alright Jersey, way to rush in and post with authority like you are Stoney or something!

[JerseyDomer]

Just bustin stones, thats all... I can tell he's postin with a lot of excitement due to the Butler announcement and I don't blame'em.... Brice is a hell of a talent and would love to have him

[NDGirlzRock]

Just bustin stones, thats all... I can tell he's postin with a lot of excitement due to the Butler announcement and I don't blame'em.... Brice is a hell of a talent and would love to have him

Welcome!!!

[JerseyDomer]

Thanks

[YoungIrish]

My bad my bad..I dont go back and re-read my post...maybe i will start...I ment to say Charlie likes him..and thats good enough for me...I think I built myself up for the Butler announcment..so now Im trying to come down a little bit and be reasonable...Omar Hunter spoiled me on the "we dont have a shot with this guy" commitment...

[NDGirlzRock]

I just watched some film on him...well he's pretty fast, has some good moves, could be a decent receiver, but a QB man I can throw better than him and I'm a woman. Well maybe that isn't such a great comparison, I can kick better than our last 3 or 4 starting kickers too.

[YoungIrish]

better then D.J. Fitzpatrick...that kid was good..

[NDGirlzRock]

better then D.J. Fitzpatrick...that kid was good..

Yup better than him....spot on at 45 yards my friend. Just ok after 45...I'd say about 5 out of 10 after 45.

[YoungIrish]

haha pretty impressive..is this with a football or soccer ball

[NDGirlzRock]

haha pretty impressive..is this with a football or soccer ball

I'm better with a soccer ball....that's with a football. My longest with a football was 57...soccer ball almost 65. Left foot I'm only accurate at about 38 and in, with a football....50 with soccer ball.

[GhostSpirit]

Got his fourth star on Rivals.

[irishunclebill]

Got his fourth star on Rivals.


4th star on Scout as well, moves all the way up to #156 on Rivals 250, did not make Scout 300.

Profile Updated.

[GhostSpirit]

So much for being under the radar.

[irishunclebill]

Harper has told the ND staff that he will reserve one of his 5 Official Visits for South Bend if he does get an Irish offer. Some significance to this as Harper has taken the Arthur Brown stance on his Official Visits, that being that the 5 schools they plan to visit are not neccessarily their favorites, but may be just schools that they have not already had an opportunity to see. However, in Harper's case he has already been to South Bend, so an Official Visit combined with an Offer would seem to indicate genuine interest here.

[irishunclebill]

There are some rumblings about that Harper may already have his Offer. We shall see.

[lionelhutz]

B&G reporting that Harper has been offered!

[irishunclebill]

B&G reporting that Harper has been offered!

Good enough for GH. 2 different sources now report a Harper offer, so Chris becomes GH Official Offer #65.

[irishunclebill]

Harper is now ranked on all three of the ESPN 150 (148), Scout 300 (297) and Rivals 250 (156). Profile Updated.

[IrishKnight1023]

What is he being recruited as? A WR?

[irishunclebill]

What is he being recruited as? A WR?

YES.

[grungejunky]

i was abruptly thrown under the bus a month ago for saying this kid will earn his offer and that he is a victim of the star system as well as his position flexibility. i'm happy to see he received an offer and it will be interesting to see where he ends up. i am just pondering why some of you guys are celebrating. i mean isn't this our second tier backup guy? doesn't this mean we are losing ground with floyd, baldwin, or walker? :D

[BleedingB&G]

Here is some film on Harper, #7.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk-SglmwwLc

[IrishKnight1023]

i was abruptly thrown under the bus a month ago for saying this kid will earn his offer and that he is a victim of the star system as well as his position flexibility. i'm happy to see he received an offer and it will be interesting to see where he ends up. i am just pondering why some of you guys are celebrating. i mean isn't this our second tier backup guy? doesn't this mean we are losing ground with floyd, baldwin, or walker? :D

----I didn't see anybody celebrating or jumping up and down. If he earned an ND offer than he's good enough to play here. These WR's are taking their sweet ass time and we're not getting burned like last year.

[irishunclebill]

i was abruptly thrown under the bus a month ago for saying this kid will earn his offer and that he is a victim of the star system as well as his position flexibility. i'm happy to see he received an offer and it will be interesting to see where he ends up. i am just pondering why some of you guys are celebrating. i mean isn't this our second tier backup guy? doesn't this mean we are losing ground with floyd, baldwin, or walker? :D

Celebrating because Harper is a great athlete that any team would want to have if they had a slot for him. Harper is the wild card, not Walker. Walker was offered because of Butler going elsewhere. At first glance you might think it's a reaction to Floyd taking his time but there are some strong opinions being stated by people who actually have a connection to the program that it is simply not the case. Time will tell.

In any case Harper is by no means an ND lock. He has promised that he will take an Official to ND if he received an Offer, now that he has will he follow through on this promise. Also, Harper is still convinced that he can play QB in college, something that even a casual observer can see that he would never do at ND. However, there are 2 programs (K-State & Missouri) that are recruiting him for that position where their style of play might allow him to be successful at QB. There is also a third program recruiting him as a QB where he will never play a down at that position. Unfortunately that program is Illinois and Zook has never been bashful about telling a recruit what he wants to hear if he thinks it will allow the recruit to be Zooked. ND does not have a prayer here if Harper really wants to play QB in college, or if he listens to the wrong people about how best to utilize his substantial athletic skills at the college level,

[grungejunky]

the floyd, balwdin, walker thing was just playing devils advocate. i know nd is in extremely good standing with floyd and top of the list with baldwin too. walker i think is falling in love with everyone. my reaction was more or a less a little poke at people last month who weren't on the band wagon because harper was just some three star athlete from kansas. no bad feelings just a little pride taking over on my part.
i was actually going to ask whether zook had gotten in on telling him he could play Qb but you cleared that up nicely. i think the big competition would have to be ksu in this situation. i assume they have been on him since the get go. on the bright side the kid worked hard to get his offer and has been talking about getting it for awhile now. the youtube clips were nice and his dimensions/measurables are frighteningly similar to a lineback/wide receiver who left us at the altar last year.

[irishunclebill]

He does have that look physically, hopefully he does not have the same ESPN mentality.

[lionelhutz]

Uncle Bill I agree completely. Harper looks to be a great athlete who could play WR, LB or RB for the Irish, but wouldn't have a prayer of playing QB here. If Zook is after him look out, that piece of shit will say and do anything to land a kid. I couldn't see a program with any type of passing game looking at him for QB, but there are 3 other positions he could play. I'd take him!!

[IrishCalves]

II has an article about Harper receiving an offer as well, just an FYI.

I like the move. Always liked what he brought to the table physically. Don't know much about the kind of personality/academics the kid carries, but its smart to have 4 WR prospects offered going into the season.

[irishunclebill]

Harper will make an Official Visit to South Bend for either the MSU game on 9/22 or the USC game on 10/20.

[The New Louis]

Just a feeling that he will end up at LB

[lionelhutz]

Just listened to an interview with Chris Harper. I don't have a good feeling about this at all. he said he was surprised at how little was going on on campus during his unofficial visit compared to other schools. He said he didn't have a favorite and will be there for the USC game either officially or unofficially, but really didn't seem too excited about Notre Dame. Judging by the fact that he shares Arthur Brown's "recruiting consultant," I question his interest in getting a ND offer. Don't hold your breath on Harper!!

[NDisNCin2010]

Just a feeling that he will end up at LB

tend to agree with you, though i know we are in the minority here.

i think sabino has cooled off on us, and his ship is sailing on ND,
and d walker is a real long shot,
so hunch is Harper being considered for an OLB 'project' or the 3rd WR with upside type of project...2 recruiting birds with one stone type of deal


all i want rest of this class is Floyd and Trev.


all these others are icing (Baldwin, Harper, Walker, Page, etc)

[IrishKnight1023]

I just listened to his interview on Irish Tuesdays by B&G.com (who accually do player interviews every week unlike Power Hour who bores the sh*t out of me with their "board coaches") and I got the vibe that he was a little turned off by the lack of activity in South Bend during the summer. He's coming to the USC game and obviously prefers QB, but it depends on the situation. Not the most flatering of interviews based on his reaction to his visit to SB. He liked the players (DJ, Jabbie, West), but it was dead unlike alot of other places he visited this summer. He said he may decide on NSD so he's obviously not worried about having a spot.

[The New Louis]

what does he want a rockin party on campus. Almost all of the students are gone for the summer. It didn't seem to have an impact of Ethan Johnson. If this kid is more about a party atmosphere on campus then I think we wasted an offer on him when we could have given it to someone who wants to be here like Compton.

[IrishKnight1023]

The good thing is we've gotten all of our major targets this year already and everything from this point on is icing, icluding Floyd. I still think by the end of this year and into their Jr. year that the '06 WR's that one or more of them will step up and become a force added with the other returning upper classman WR's. Throw in a learning Duval and Golden with incoming Goodman and I still feel good. Floyd is the last big target on our board, but I don't think anybody can make or break this class anymore. If anything was make or break it was on the defense and thats been taken care of.

[irishunclebill]

It's a little early and a little presumptious to be throwing Harper under the bus already. Let's see when did he get his offer? Oh yeah, that's right it was yesterday.:rolleyes:

Sorry for the sarcasm but I can't help but being sarcastic when any kind of negative news has kids (both Walker & Harper) being tossed aside on the ND message boards less than a week after they have received Irish offers. Are they both longshots? Definitely, but give them a break, and how about having a little faith in the coaching staff that has assembled the #1 recruiting class this year that if they have offered these 2 guys, then they must think ND has at least a 1% shot at getting them.

[scooper]

Like it or not, atmosphere is important to these kids as well it should be. They are going to live at their choice for four years. They might as well enjoy being around. That doesn't mean they will work any less and it doesn't make them any less of a student. Kids should be comfortable and be able to see themselves enjoying their time in South Bend. Some do. Some don't.

To address another point- Harper plays no defense in HS. So OLB or safety would be a huge project.

[irishunclebill]

OK, where's that bus? Time to run him over. J/K.

However, latest info from Harper continues to suggest that he is pretty adamant about playing QB in college. Also quotes attributed to him could easily be taken as him using the ND offer for posturing and shopping purposes only. In any case it's enough for me to move him from the "Still a Possibility" category to the "Highly Questionable" category.

[irishunclebill]

More Harper news but it's mostly confusing. He is saying that ND, K-State, Missouri, and Illinois will be in his recruiting favorites until the end, which may sound good for the Irish until you consider that all of the other schools mentioned are saying he can play his favorite position for them.

Then he mentions that he only has 2 Officials that he is pretty sure of, ND & Cal? Why Cal when they are not even mentioned as definitely being in it until the end. Sounds like he just wants to go out there for a visit, but he has already visited ND, so why the Irish as well. Hopefully I'm wrong here, but there has been a whole lot of posturing going on here using the ND name since Harper received his offer.

[tchris555]

OK, where's that bus? Time to run him over. J/K.

However, latest info from Harper continues to suggest that he is pretty adamant about playing QB in college. Also quotes attributed to him could easily be taken as him using the ND offer for posturing and shopping purposes only. In any case it's enough for me to move him from the "Still a Possibility" category to the "Highly Questionable" category.

I'm fine with him doing that. You gotta play the game. As long as he's been somewhat honest to the coaches involved. He's a guy I'd take or leave. No big deal.

[DiegoIrish]

Ya I dont like the sound of any of that either. Irish could be a trophy offer he uses to boost his stock. He's fooling himself if he believes he'll be a QB forever, unless he doesnt want to play in the NFL.

[GhostSpirit]

Harper says he will officially visit schools that he was unable to go to this summer (Cal). Chris visiting ND again for an official is probably to get more of a feel for the campus. When he visited this summer he was turned off by the campus being dead. So, with a gametime experience it should make him feel more comfortable. He could be posturing with his ND offer, but either way ND is in it til the end, according to Chris.

[IrishKnight1023]

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=AkgL4XuEiAa9oXN7AFY7VLrjvbYF?slug=rivals-150229&prov=rivals&type=story_recruiting

"It was really nice there," Harper said. "Notre Dame and Missouri would be the two nicest schools that I've been to when talking about facilities. They gutted out the old stuff and remodeled everything. I went around campus, and it's a smaller school. That's not necessarily a bad thing. They've only got about 8,000 students. The coaches were real cool, too.

[NDgrandson]

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=AkgL4XuEiAa9oXN7AFY7VLrjvbYF?slug=rivals-150229&prov=rivals&type=story_recruiting

"It was really nice there," Harper said. "Notre Dame and Missouri would be the two nicest schools that I've been to when talking about facilities. They gutted out the old stuff and remodeled everything. I went around campus, and it's a smaller school. That's not necessarily a bad thing. They've only got about 8,000 students. The coaches were real cool, too.

First time I've seen ND being comparable to Missouri. :confused:

[IrishKnight1023]

He's still lobbying for offers, typical.

"I'm still waiting to see if I can get more offers," he said. "Ole Miss, Alabama and Florida all said they want to see a few of my games this season. I'm gonna send them some film and see if they offer. I probably will wait to hear from them before I set up all my visits. Those would be schools I'd definitely be interested in if they offered

http://notredame.scout.com/a.z?s=109&p=2&c=673280

[marv81s]

He's got the attitude of a WR, "ME ME ME ME ME", but yet wants to play QB

[NDGirlzRock]

He's got the attitude of a WR, "ME ME ME ME ME", but yet wants to play QB

Too bad I can throw better than him!

[brownkj002]

Why's everyone dogging him? He can wait to get as many offers if he wants to. I know I would be living it up if I had a lot of the top schools after me. If he wants to be a QB then don't hate on him. It's his choice.

[NDGirlzRock]

Why's everyone dogging him? He can wait to get as many offers if he wants to. I know I would be living it up if I had a lot of the top schools after me. If he wants to be a QB then don't hate on him. It's his choice.

My point is this, if you are after top school offers for a position that you wish to play, but you are much better at another, you need to be realistic. Look at Pryor, if memory serves, he has dropped his wanting to play both football and basketball. Why? Because he had a reality check....no college coach in their right mind would let their star QB play another sport in college. Even if you were John Elway. It's ludicrious! His talent isn't at QB, it's at WR! Hell if I had a chance to play at major programs as a WR, even though I was a QB, I'd jump at the chance. Case in point Dan McCarthy! State champ QB playing S for ND! This kid could be great and he doesn't know everything there is to know, even if some Rasputin is telling him to play QB. He needs to listen to the experts on this one!

[marv81s]

I have no problem if that was truely his reason, but it is so blantly obvious that he just wants an offer from those schools so it looks better for him, that is all he is doing. If he got an offer from free shoes and university of spoiled children tomorrow to play WR, he would PROBABLY act the same way, "well, yeah, I got an offer from USC, thats cool, they want me to play WR, so....."

I have no problem with a kid that does what he does, just saying its obvious to me that he is just looking to get as many offers as possible to stroke his ego.

[napoleonbuck]

My point is this, if you are after top school offers for a position that you wish to play, but you are much better at another, you need to be realistic. Look at Pryor, if memory serves, he has dropped his wanting to play both football and basketball. Why? Because he had a reality check....no college coach in their right mind would let their star QB play another sport in college. Even if you were John Elway. It's ludicrious! His talent isn't at QB, it's at WR! Hell if I had a chance to play at major programs as a WR, even though I was a QB, I'd jump at the chance. Case in point Dan McCarthy! State champ QB playing S for ND! This kid could be great and he doesn't know everything there is to know, even if some Rasputin is telling him to play QB. He needs to listen to the experts on this one!

Pryor is still planning on playing both, and he's definitely a better QB prospect than he is a WR prospect.

I also don't think wanting as many options is that bad. If he's undecided, then it's in his best interests to have as many possible choices as possible. If I were a coach or dad whose player/son was looking at colleges, I'd want them to have as many offers as possible too.

FWIW, McCarthy is a QB in name only. He passed once in the first game IIRC.

[brownkj002]

My point is this, if you are after top school offers for a position that you wish to play, but you are much better at another, you need to be realistic. Look at Pryor, if memory serves, he has dropped his wanting to play both football and basketball. Why? Because he had a reality check....no college coach in their right mind would let their star QB play another sport in college. Even if you were John Elway. It's ludicrious! His talent isn't at QB, it's at WR! Hell if I had a chance to play at major programs as a WR, even though I was a QB, I'd jump at the chance. Case in point Dan McCarthy! State champ QB playing S for ND! This kid could be great and he doesn't know everything there is to know, even if some Rasputin is telling him to play QB. He needs to listen to the experts on this one!

I understand some of your points. Some of them I don't. Why wouldn't coaches let their star players play two sports? Last time I checked, ND had Samardzija and Sharpley playing baseball. I think Golden Tate is going to as well. Charlie Ward won the Heisman and then went to play in the NBA. I can't remember which MAC QB (Roethlisberger, Leftwich) it was (think it was Roethlisberger) that was recruited by most schools to play tight end but he wanted to play QB. So, he chose a smaller MAC school. It looks like he's doing okay now. Who knows how good this kid is going to be at any position. If he wants to be a QB, then he should.

[Doomsday Device]

My point is this, if you are after top school offers for a position that you wish to play, but you are much better at another, you need to be realistic. Look at Pryor, if memory serves, he has dropped his wanting to play both football and basketball. Why? Because he had a reality check....no college coach in their right mind would let their star QB play another sport in college. Even if you were John Elway. It's ludicrious! His talent isn't at QB, it's at WR! Hell if I had a chance to play at major programs as a WR, even though I was a QB, I'd jump at the chance. Case in point Dan McCarthy! State champ QB playing S for ND! This kid could be great and he doesn't know everything there is to know, even if some Rasputin is telling him to play QB. He needs to listen to the experts on this one!

If Greg Paulus had decided to come to Notre Dame, he would have been allowed to play QB and basketball.

[KamaraPolice]

I think Harper is a college receiver. However, she isn't saying Tyrelle Pyor should play receiver, she's saying he's not going to be playing QB and basketball. In a sense I would have to agree, do you as a football coach want to see your star quarterback making hundreds of cuts and leaps, all having the potential to blow out a knee or ankle?

Also, Pryor is going to be an incredible QB, getting Vince Young comparisons, but I think he is even more athletic than Young (not better though, you cant prove that from high school).

[Svoboda]

Not only would I not want to see it, I'd tell him to find something else to do.

[NDGirlzRock]

I think Harper is a college receiver. However, she isn't saying Tyrelle Pyor should play receiver, she's saying he's not going to be playing QB and basketball. In a sense I would have to agree, do you as a football coach want to see your star quarterback making hundreds of cuts and leaps, all having the potential to blow out a knee or ankle?

Also, Pryor is going to be an incredible QB, getting Vince Young comparisons, but I think he is even more athletic than Young (not better though, you cant prove that from high school).

Reps KP! Pryor needs to be more rational about his career. Eventhough he loves to play QB, he needs to evaluate which position will give him more of a chance to obtain his goals. I think that WR is that position. If he wants to be a QB he needs to truly look at schools where his skills can be utilized, which he isn't doing. Honestly, if he wants to be a QB I think he should go to Pitt or Texas, but you don't see them on his list anymore! Trust me, he may start at QB on his team of choice, but he will wind-up a WR in about 2 years.

[napoleonbuck]

Pitt would be a horrible choice for Pryor because Pitt uses a pro style offense. A pro style offense would not take advantage of Pryor's skills at all.

You're also way underselling him as a QB. He needs to work on his mechanics, but he has a great arm with good accuracy, and no one in this class touches him as an athlete.

Making Pryor a WR would waste his talents IMO.

But yeah, saying Pryor will end up a WR shows you don't know what you're talking about.

[irishunclebill]

I think there's a little bit of confusion here between Pryor & Harper. Harper is the one who needs to be more rational about his career, not Pryor. Harper does not have the skill sets to be a college QB, Pryor has the skill sets to play just about any position he wants to play, and he wants to play QB. I personally have my doubts as to whether Pryor is the next coming of Vince Young, but he will definitely play QB in college and most likely in the NFL as well. As Buck said Pitt would be a horrible choice for Pryor and that is probably the reason why Pitt dropped off of Pryor's radar a long time ago. He will most likely be a Buckeye and he will thrive there because IMO he is more skilled than Troy Smith is, and Smith did pretty well for himself at OSU. Whether Pryor will be a dominant college QB or not very much remains to be seen, but again Troy Smith was hardly a dominant college QB throughout his career, yet in the OSU system he ended up winning a Heisman and playing for a NC.

[daytonirish]

I agree with Pryor ending up at OSU,but everone will have to wait and see if he makes it as a qb. I think he will definently be given every opportunity to play qb but as we all know players switch positions all the time.

[marv81s]

I agree Bill, Pryor will go to be with the sweatervest, only other team I see having a shot at him is WV, which wouldn't be a bad choice for him either. Either school would love for him to play football and would let him play basketball also. Win/win situation for both parties either way.

Harper needs someone close to him and give him the lowdown that playing QB is not in his best interest and if he is really interested in moving on to the next level and/or playing as soon as possible, QB is not the right route to go.

[NDisNCin2010]

Harper is going to K State to play QB
Pryor is going to OSU to play QB
good luck to both. theyll be fine

give me floyd and trev for rest of this class, hold on to verbals, and im happy...on to the season, and the 2009 recruits.

[NDGirlzRock]

The only reason that I threw Pitt out there was because, I think that they would sculpt their offense around him. Let's face it eventhough he maybe a good recruiter, the stash(Weinstadt), sucks as an actual head coach. In an effort to jump start that program and get it back on track, I would think that they would be more willing to do an overhaul of the offense to gear towards a top flight player like Pryor. As for Harper, I also feel that what I said in my previous post about Pryor being more realistic about his career goals, holds true for him as well.

[irishunclebill]

Harper was at the KU game on Saturday night.

He is also planning on making an Official Visit to ND for the MSU game.

[irishunclebill]

DD's departure may have improved ND's chances in recruiting Harper who will make his Official Visit to South Bend as scheduled this weekend. It opens up the possibility of Harper getting PT as a spread QB as long as he is willing to play WR as well. Harper has indicated that he is intrigued by this concept.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I find that to be very good news. Which has been sorely lacking for the past 4 weeks.

[NDGirlzRock]

Hercules Hercules Hercules!!!! Goody!!!

[NDisNCin2010]

DD's departure may have improved ND's chances in recruiting Harper who will make his Official Visit to South Bend as scheduled this weekend. It opens up the possibility of Harper getting PT as a spread QB as long as he is willing to play WR as well. Harper has indicated that he is intrigued by this concept.

lets face it...its the Jimmy and Dayne show at QB for the foreseeable future...Lets not make the same mistake with Harper as we did with D Jones...Weis has an NFL type system, so we want NFL type QB's-not the dual threats-forget "putting in packages" for a backup QB.
if he is recruiting Harper for anything other than WR, or possibly on D (where i wold like to see him)....then CW does not learn from his mistakes.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I agree w/ you, but at this point, depth has a quality all its own. I don't see CW going to the spread much anymore, but......I see nothing wrong w/ putting in another QB to change things up a bit. Then again, how many Tebows are out there.
Cause we sure as heck ain't getting Pryor.

[NDgrandson]

This is an easy pitch to give Harper. Sure, we could line him up at QB much McFadden has done. NC2010 is right, it's JC and DC during the time Harper would be here. We will use him to the best of his abilities. Crist is a big dude and might make some nice blocks for Harper if the play calls for it.

[cman1787]

i'd like to see this kid at LB next to Filer

[BigIrish]

i wouldn't be so quick to rule out taking a qb like harper. has anybody considered what might happen if clausen continues to start through the rest of the season? jones and frazer are gone. sharpley will be a senior next year. he's also a dual sport athlete. will he want to come back his senior year and ride the bench behind an established starter when he could opt to just focus on baseball instead? who knows? but if he did, we'd be sitting in a precarious position of having minimal depth at qb. if you're sophomore goes down, you've got a freshman and nothing behind him.

if not harper, then somebody....

[The New Louis]

Harper seems like a freak athlete. Give him some direct snaps out of the gun and with that size and speed look out. It could really be a nice wrinkle in the offense.

[NDisNCin2010]

a little off topic...but it seems to me that Jimmy can actually run (for his life, usually) pretty well. he seems "football quick" for a QB out there. is it just me on this or were any of you sort of pleasantly surprised with his running/scrambling ability too?

[irishunclebill]

a little off topic...but it seems to me that Jimmy can actually run (for his life, usually) pretty well. he seems "football quick" for a QB out there. is it just me on this or were any of you sort of pleasantly surprised with his running/scrambling ability too?

LOL- If you were running for your life on every play you would probably learn pretty fast to be football quick too.;)

Seriously though I am a little surprised at his quickness and am also pleasantly surprised at his seeming strength, or at least his ability to take a hit. I always thought he was pretty mobile especially when compared to a guy like Mallett, but I would not count on him gaining much yardage on the ground after scrambling. I would imagine he is under pretty strict orders to get out of bounds as quickly as possible when venturing downfield. Hopefully he can add a little BQ type bulk to his frame over the next few years and become somewhat of a threat to gain some running yardage on broken plays.

[The New Louis]

BQ scrambling ability was underrated. Just think he got good at it by running for his life his first two years as a starter. Maybe the same thing will happen for jimmy.

[IrishChieftain777]

Jones' departure opens space for Harper
BOB WIENEKE
Tribune Staff Writer

http://southbendtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070921/SPORTS13/709210417/1021/Sports

It sounds like Notre Dame's chances for Harper increased significantly with the opportunity to play quarterback, at least according to his coach.

"Northwest High football coach Weston Schartz estimated that, on a scale of 1-10, Chris Harper's interest in Notre Dame was somewhere around a seven.

That, however, has changed for Harper, a standout athlete who could play quarterback or receiver in college.

'I think it's up much higher than that now,' Schartz said Thursday." continued...

Also of note, it confirms that we have three recruits coming in this weekend for the game: Harper, Ryan Williams and Chancey Aghayere.

I know I for one am hoping Aldridge and Allen have great games to give us a shot at luring Williams to ND... and at winning!

Go IRISH!

[tedwick]

i hope he knows he'll be nothing more than a situational quarterback, and will be playing WR or LB most of the time. I know the coaches have to sell him on what's going to get him to come to the school, but seriously. he's coming in the class after jimmy clausen, and the class of dayne crist. he's going to be 3rd string, best, all the way up until his senior year.

[irishziggy]

the good thing is he wants to be a playmaker, and he wants a chance to start at qb, if that doesnt work and he's only situational, it sounds like he's fine with that. he just wants a shot.

[irishunclebill]

Link to local newspaper article talking about Harper's visits to ND & Illinois. Read it for yourself, I am not sure what to make of it, especially this quote from Harper's mom.



Paula Harper added: "Notre Dame was more professional and Illinois was more of a family."

Harper handles hectic schedule (http://www.kansas.com/266/story/192804.html)

[marv81s]

that pretty much tells me that ND is treating his recruitment like a business and Illinois treated him more like a family member and it was more personable.

I would think ND is out, probably out anyway since Zook has said he would be a QB there, Harper better take note that Illinois already had a pretty highly rated QB committ to the them earlier this year.

[NDisNCin2010]

4.38 40...uhm, no disrespect to Harper, but thats gotta be a typo.

my hunch-he has:

KState and Zook ahead 1 and 1A...with ND at best in 3rd

just a hunch but my sense is he will get ZOOKED!

[daytonirish]

Maybe the Zooker took him home to meet the wife and kids. You remember you have to meet Urbies wife before you commit to Fla. Zook could be trying the same thing. :D

[Flyin_Irish]

I've heard rumors that with K-State's recent admission of violations, ND is a possible front runner.

[Akron Irish]

Some rumors are starting to swirl that he may have even committed to ND. These are strictly rumors.. but word is something may be coming down from Rivals

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I'd like to have a big time, dedicated WR, but any positive news on the recruiting front is welcome.

[Flyin_Irish]

If he has committed or plans to commit soon to ND, it would surely be a surprise. I thought he really wanted to play QB. If we do land Harper, would we still take 2 more WRs (assuming we could actually land 2 more)??

[Akron Irish]

If he has committed or plans to commit soon to ND, it would surely be a surprise. I thought he really wanted to play QB. If we do land Harper, would we still take 2 more WRs (assuming we could actually land 2 more)??

We wouldn't turn away Floyd. And I think we'd take the first one that commits over the other two.

[grungejunky]

hope the rumors or true. this guy is bound to stick at some position. i think with the transfers this wouldnt stop us from putting on a full court press for floyd and walker still. i dont know the numbers off the top of my head though. fingers crossed...

[tchris555]

forget walker (not that the staff has or should), i think it's harper, floyd, and baldwin we got a shot at, baldwin probably the best shot.

[grungejunky]

that was an error on my part. things have been so hush hush with baldwin i literally forgot about him. i don't know that i see harper sticking at wide receiver but he is gonna play somewhere. i will take two of any of those guys honestly. more and more talent, its a great problem to have.

[irishunclebill]

The source of this rumor on Harper is a little shaky as it is based on an alleged report from an unnamed South Bend radio station that has not been confirmed anywhere that I see. Hopefully, it's true but I would not get too excited until it is at least confirmed that the radio station even reported anything about Harper.

[daytonirish]

It would be interesting if the rumor is true as to what position he accepted the offer from Charlie to play. I don't believe you turn down a commit from an athlete like Chris, but still will be intrigued to see which position he starts out at.

[irishunclebill]

The Harper to ND rumor is losing steam as it is being reported that Harper has denied it directly, and that he has also implied that Mizzou & K-State are his current leaders.

[Flyin_Irish]

I thought it would have been quite a turn around for ND to come from behind like that, even with K-State's recent violations or whatever is going on there. Just seemed like there were other programs that might give him more of what he's looking for, which seems to be an opportunity to play QB. That opportunity would seem to be absolutely out of the question at ND.

[marv81s]

i would be kinda shocked if ND was even ahead of Illinois for Harper's signature

He is very set on playing QB, and I don't think, no, I know that our QB slot is filled for the next 5 years or so.

I'm looking very foward to seeing JC and Dayne Crist tear it up at ND for the next few years.

[irishunclebill]

Harper has an Official Top 5 list. K-State, Mizzou, Cal, ZookerLand, and ND. No change in his stance of wanting to play QB in college, that is usually the focus of his interviews, means that ND has little or no chance of landing Harper when K-State, Mizzou, and the Zookster have told him (mislead him in some cases) that they are recruiting him as a QB. As long as Harper sticks with that idea, ND being in his Top 5 is similar to when Chancey Aghayere said we were in his Top 5, we might as well be in his Top 500.

[NDGirlzRock]

Harper has an Official Top 5 list. K-State, Mizzou, Cal, ZookerLand, and ND. No change in his stance of wanting to play QB in college, that is usually the focus of his interviews, means that ND has little or no chance of landing Harper when K-State, Mizzou, and the Zookster have told him (mislead him in some cases) that they are recruiting him as a QB. As long as Harper sticks with that idea, ND being in his Top 5 is similar to when Chancey Aghayere said we were in his Top 5, we might as well be in his Top 500.

Mizzou may be out of the running if they get Gabbart, don't you think???

[daytonirish]

Yeah, I would think if Gabbert goes to Mizzou then Harper would end up somewhere else. Sounds more and more like he'll get Zookered.

[irishunclebill]

Harper has an Official Top 5 list. K-State, Mizzou, Cal, ZookerLand, and ND. No change in his stance of wanting to play QB in college, that is usually the focus of his interviews, means that ND has little or no chance of landing Harper when K-State, Mizzou, and the Zookster have told him (mislead him in some cases) that they are recruiting him as a QB. As long as Harper sticks with that idea, ND being in his Top 5 is similar to when Chancey Aghayere said we were in his Top 5, we might as well be in his Top 500.

Add Oregon to the above 5 as Harper now has a Top 6. However, Oregon has not even offered him yet, so you can clearly see that Harper is mostly just seeing stars at this point in time, and is obviously thinking that he can be Dixon's replacement at Oregon, even though they have not offered him. 4 of the 6 schools on the list are recruiting him as a QB. Cal is looking at him as a receiver, and ND as an athlete according to Harper. I have yet to see a single article about Harper where he did not specifically say that he wanted to play QB in college, and he also used the dreaded "good academics" phrase in referring to Cal and ND. This one is all but over for ND, not sure it ever really started.

[irishunclebill]

Add Oregon to the above 5 as Harper now has a Top 6. However, Oregon has not even offered him yet, so you can clearly see that Harper is mostly just seeing stars at this point in time, and is obviously thinking that he can be Dixon's replacement at Oregon, even though they have not offered him. 4 of the 6 schools on the list are recruiting him as a QB. Cal is looking at him as a receiver, and ND as an athlete according to Harper. I have yet to see a single article about Harper where he did not specifically say that he wanted to play QB in college, and he also used the dreaded "good academics" phrase in referring to Cal and ND. This one is all but over for ND, not sure it ever really started.

Oregon has now offered Harper who will take an Official Visit there on December 1. This is most likely good news for ND as it could be an indication that Gerell Robinson is not that interested in the Ducks. With the Oregon offer, Gabbert committing to Mizzou, and K-State having a dissapointing season, my guess is that Harper will end up choosing between Oregon and Illinois.

[marv81s]

Illinois, Missouri, Notre Dame, and Oregon are in his final four, dropped Kansas State from his top 5

official visit scheduled to Oregon on Dec. 1 and plans on making a decision in December

The ducks are making a huge push for him lately, I wouldn't be shocked to see Nike University land him at this point

[NDisNCin2010]

4.38 40...uhm, no disrespect to Harper, but thats gotta be a typo.

my hunch-he has:

KState and Zook ahead 1 and 1A...with ND at best in 3rd

just a hunch but my sense is he will get ZOOKED!



w/ KStae now out of the picture...my money is on him going to the Illini...
BTW: surprised Kansas not in the mix. (Jayhawks that is...)

[Jstehly5511]

I never saw this kid going to ND and quite frankly I could care less really. I don't think he wants to play WR and I would rather any of the other remaining prospects over him anyway.

JS

[irishunclebill]

Harper is now planning on making his decision at the same time (12/17) and location as Arthur Brown.

[NDGirlzRock]

Harper is now planning on making his decision at the same time (12/17) and location as Arthur Brown.

Yeah that's so their agent, I mean advisor, only has to pony up for one presser!!!

[GoldenShower]

http://notredame.scout.com/a.z?s=109&p=2&c=706175

Free article on scout. There's some pretty intriguing stuff, such as CW making an in-home visit next week according to Harper. There's also a comment about dropping Cal because they were solely looking at him at WR, which somehow ND is telling him he'd be used more as an athlete role.

Beginning of the article has him hyping up Oregon. If he likes his trip, I'd be surprised if he didn't end up there, Missouri, or Illinois.

[irishunclebill]

http://notredame.scout.com/a.z?s=109&p=2&c=706175

Free article on scout. There's some pretty intriguing stuff, such as CW making an in-home visit next week according to Harper. There's also a comment about dropping Cal because they were solely looking at him at WR, which somehow ND is telling him he'd be used more as an athlete role.

Beginning of the article has him hyping up Oregon. If he likes his trip, I'd be surprised if he didn't end up there, Missouri, or Illinois.

I mentioned in another thread that CB is not going to let Harper go away quietly. What was said in the Scout article, and is now being verified at an Illini recruiting site seems to verify that information. Harper dropped California because they were looking at him solely as a WR, but he is continuing to consider ND because they are telling him they are looking at him to play a variety of positions. For a kid who is so adamant about playing QB, his acceptance of the way ND is talking about using him indicates to me that CB really does have Harper's ear. Presumably ND is looking at Harper as some sort of combo Offensive weapon, QB in some special spread formations, (CW will have to install some spread plays eventually) some Running Back, and some slot WR play. No defense though, so forget Harper as an LB, he wants to be on the Offensive side of the line.

Also, both the Scout and the Illini article say thay K-State is still in it for Harper, as does the Brown/Harper guru's website. K-State still being in it has led to some speculation that since Harper and Brown are both making their announcements at the same time and place that they may both choose K-State, since it is the only common school left on their cut lists. However, in denying that he and Brown are looking at this as a joint package, Harper seems to give away that it is unlikely to happen. K-State may have been put back on his list just to make the announcement interesting and to appease the HSU people that Brown/Harper are at least considering K-State. In the end, I don't see either one of them at K-State or going to the same school.

Harper is still a huge longshot for ND, but I find it pretty amazing that the Irish are still even under consideration. Previously I had thought that keeping the Irish in the mix was just for show. I no longer believe that, but I still think that this late in the game it would take some big magic to dissuade Harper from wanting to play QB full-time in college. Of course CB has already shown that he is quite the magic man. This one would be the ultimate pulling the rabbit out of the hat trick, or in this case, pulling it away from a Duck or a Zook.

[GoldenShower]

Here's what I don't get about Harper or would welcome opinions.

If he picks Oregon, he has 3 QBs already there, 3 QB recruits who were at the Civil War (including Scout's #11 / 12 QB), 1 QB already committed there and one (Darrius Banks) who's listed Oregon as his favorite. One of them is a LSU decommit (Darron Thomas) who apparently didn't like LSU taking additional QBs on after his commitment.

Illinois has Juice Williams as a Sophomore, 4 other QBs on scholarship, and the #17 QB recruit coming in. Missouri has Chase Daniel as a Junior and Gabbert coming in.

Nov. 30
Darron Thomas, QB
Aldine, TX
Aldine High School


Scouts Grade: 78
Position Rank: 29 Tigers lose quarterback Darron Thomas
Darron Thomas has decommitted from LSU because the Tigers have secured commitments from two other signal-callers, D.C. Jefferson (Winter Haven, Fla.) and Jordan Jefferson (Destrehan, La.), since his pledge, and is scheduled to visit Oregon this weekend, The Advocate reports.
As a senior, Thomas completed 149 of 249 pass attempts (59.8-percent) for 2,576 yards and 11 touchdowns.


So, what I ultimately don't get is CW seems to be the only program who's been honest with Harper his entire recruting path. He has yet to pull a LSU move by continuing to recruit past committments. He has yet to pressure a recruit to commit or lose their scholarship - like S. Carolina or UCLA have done. All of these others seem to give Harper the story that he wants to hear, "that he will be the Dixon / Williams / Daniel replacement down-stream", but in the end he's going to have the exact same competition at QB at any of these schools that he would have at ND. You heard it hear first, if Harper picks any of the 3 mentioned - he won't hear his name at QB until his 5th-year and by that time there will be other QB recruits coming in just as highly-rated / 4-star capable.

[GhostSpirit]

Everybody remember, we heard it here first...

[irishunclebill]

Here's what I don't get about Harper or would welcome opinions.

If he picks Oregon, he has 3 QBs already there, 3 QB recruits who were at the Civil War (including Scout's #11 / 12 QB), 1 QB already committed there and one (Darrius Banks) who's listed Oregon as his favorite. One of them is a LSU decommit (Darron Thomas) who apparently didn't like LSU taking additional QBs on after his commitment.

Illinois has Juice Williams as a Sophomore, 4 other QBs on scholarship, and the #17 QB recruit coming in. Missouri has Chase Daniel as a Junior and Gabbert coming in.

Nov. 30
Darron Thomas, QB
Aldine, TX
Aldine High School


Scouts Grade: 78
Position Rank: 29 Tigers lose quarterback Darron Thomas
Darron Thomas has decommitted from LSU because the Tigers have secured commitments from two other signal-callers, D.C. Jefferson (Winter Haven, Fla.) and Jordan Jefferson (Destrehan, La.), since his pledge, and is scheduled to visit Oregon this weekend, The Advocate reports.
As a senior, Thomas completed 149 of 249 pass attempts (59.8-percent) for 2,576 yards and 11 touchdowns.


So, what I ultimately don't get is CW seems to be the only program who's been honest with Harper his entire recruting path. He has yet to pull a LSU move by continuing to recruit past committments. He has yet to pressure a recruit to commit or lose their scholarship - like S. Carolina or UCLA have done. All of these others seem to give Harper the story that he wants to hear, "that he will be the Dixon / Williams / Daniel replacement down-stream", but in the end he's going to have the exact same competition at QB at any of these schools that he would have at ND. You heard it hear first, if Harper picks any of the 3 mentioned - he won't hear his name at QB until his 5th-year and by that time there will be other QB recruits coming in just as highly-rated / 4-star capable.

Darron Thomas committed to Oregon today and Bellotti is saying that he has his QB. Harper still has the same Top 5, and is still set to announce on Monday, but the Ducks now seem to be out. In fact if Harper really wants to play QB in college, K-State may now be the only place he could go where he is likely to see the playing field as a QB relatively early. There are quite a few recruiting guys who are saying that ND has a definite chance here, and it may be coming down to whether Harper is willing to settle for a program like K-State in order to have a chance to play QB, or become an all-purpose offensive threat at ND. The other option that is still lurking is whether he can be Zooked into believing he will play QB at Illinois, I'm starting to get the feeling that Harper may be too smart for that. We sill not have to wait long to find out as Chris's answer and Arthur Brown's will both be revealed on Monday night in Wichita.

[GoldenShower]

Darron Thomas committed to Oregon today and Bellotti is saying that he has his QB. Harper still has the same Top 5, and is still set to announce on Monday, but the Ducks now seem to be out. In fact if Harper really wants to play QB in college, K-State may now be the only place he could go where he is likely to see the playing field as a QB relatively early. There are quite a few recruiting guys who are saying that ND has a definite chance here, and it may be coming down to whether Harper is willing to settle for a program like K-State in order to have a chance to play QB, or become an all-purpose offensive threat at ND. The other option that is still lurking is whether he can be Zooked into believing he will play QB at Illinois, I'm starting to get the feeling that Harper may be too smart for that. We sill not have to wait long to find out as Chris's answer and Arthur Brown's will both be revealed on Monday night in Wichita.

IUB - One other interesting note on Oregon's situation, but it does appear Bellotti is still in the mix for Terrelle Pryor. In the same article on Pittsburgh Live, there's some comments from Pryor that make it seem that OSU may no longer be leading. My point with Harper has always been that every other program seems to be telling him that he can contend at QB, while they continue to recruit and bring in others. Maybe he can and wants the shot - but maybe after all of this Harper is seeing the dominos fall with Oregon / Missouri with Gabbert and realizes it's K-State or start considering a position switch which could lead to ND. I'd be happy if he comes on-board or content if he moves on.

http://www.pittsburghsportsinsider.com/?p=1747
It was assumed that Ohio State was the leader to land Jeannette’s Terrelle Pryor. If reports are true, that has changed.


It looks as thought a new school has been added to the Terrelle Pryor Sweepstakes. Mike Farrell of Rivals.com is reporting that Pryor has added a new school to his short list and removed another.

Pryor told Rivals.com that, “Oregon is now on my list. I spoke with coach Mike Bellotti this week when he came out to visit. I think he was in New York with Dennis Dixon……..but they’ve been recruitinig me hard for a long time and I really like the offense. They run pretty much the same stuff that we do. I’m thinking about taking an official visit out there. The quarterback situation out there looks pretty good as well. I don’t believe anyone who tells me I’ll play from snap one, that’s just now the way it works but coach Bellotti never toldme that, he was honest and up front.”

[brownkj002]

What time is his announcement on Monday?

[irishunclebill]

What time is his announcement on Monday?

I think it is at 7:30 PM, but I'm not sure whether that is ET or CT.

[NDisNCin2010]

amazing what that win in Morgantown has done for Pitt on the recruitng trail...

[doogerfuji]

The K-State rivals site is saying 3:30pm but again it doesn't say eastern or central.

[NDisNCin2010]

whats the website of the handler of all the Kanas kids (their promoter, svengali, spokesmen, hanger-on)?

[irishunclebill]

I think it is at 7:30 PM, but I'm not sure whether that is ET or CT.

Harper and Brown's joint announcement will be at 3:30 CT in Wichita at the Kansas HOF.

Harper's Final 5- ND, Oregon, Illinois, K-State, and Mizzou.

Brown's Final 5- USC, UNC, Miami, Florida, LSU.

[irishunclebill]

whats the website of the handler of all the Kanas kids (their promoter, svengali, spokesmen, hanger-on)?


www.potentialplayers.com

[NDisNCin2010]

any chance of Bryce Brown giving an ND verbal for 09 at this thing?:eek:

[irishunclebill]

any chance of Bryce Brown giving an ND verbal for 09 at this thing?:eek:

LOL- I should move that post to DaytonIrish's delusional thread.:D

[GoldenShower]

The only thing delusional may be the Potential Players institution. I just spent some time on that website. What a load of crap. I'd love to see his ACT / SAT preparation or career development seminars from the "about us" page. About the only thing I've seen from this is an emerging threat where guys like Boras become high school advisors early enough so that they're ready to take 10% downwind. A. Brown's treatment of Oklahoma and K-State make me think that he's above the law and the entire process. I hope we never offer Bryce as a result.

[IrishKnight1023]

I feel the same way. This advisor crap needs to be outlawed.....it's disgusting and I don't care if we are a favorite for a 10 star if he is pulling the advisor bullshit I won't bother with him. I haven't wanted A. Brown since I heard about the advisor and it's the reason why you never heard me on Chris Harpers bandwagon not tomention he doesn't really even have a recruited position where we're bringing in 4 and 5 star guys who have been playing the position exclusively their entire lives.

[NDisNCin2010]

15 minutes...

i predict Brown to Miami, Harper to Illinois

[bew602]

so how did your prediction turn out?

[NDisNCin2010]

so how did your prediction turn out?


like everyone else i just wait for IUB to find out from his contacts, etc.

[doogerfuji]

Harper to K- State according to their Rivals site.

[NDisNCin2010]

Brown to Miami acc to Cane Sport

[WheelMan]

Scout.com is showing Brown to da u.

[BleedingB&G]

Harper to k-state
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/default.asp

[doogerfuji]

Except for ND, K-State was the best place he could have gone for us.

[NDisNCin2010]

i wish Harper well...

[jfschellcrna]

the illinois boards are not too happy.............

[irishunclebill]

Outside of Harper picking ND, both choices were the best they could be from ND's standpoint. In the end Harper stuck with his guns and decided he wanted to play QB somewhere. It could be a mistake for him, but it's his choice and I wish him luck. At least he didn't fall for Zook's line.

[Dayton_Domer]

Eff Illinois...

[jfschellcrna]

lol...............

[daytonirish]

Yeah wish him well at Kansas St.

[doogerfuji]

Harper has re-opened his recruitment. IUB does he go to Illinois, Missouri, or Oregon to play
QB or can he be IRISH?

[jason]

He reopened it already??????????

[irishziggy]

i was just getting ready to post this, but either way he wont be Irish.

He state that his final 3 were KSU, Illini, and Oregon.

[daytonirish]

No way is he irish, how could you take him if he can't even keep his word for 1 week

[IrishKnight1023]

I think he'll go with Illinois now

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Yeah, they seem to be the flavor of the month (unless the recruits realize it does get a tad cold up there).

[Jstehly5511]

On Scouts it lists he will open his recruitment back up for Oregon, Illinois, K-State and Missouri. Rivals has him listing the above and Notre Dame.

Either way, I see this being Oregon or Illinois. Gabbert will keep him from Mizzo and K-State lost Franklin. He has no shot at QB for ND. In the end I see him picking Oregon. Juice Williams isn't going anywhere and Dennis Dixon is on his way out.

I wish him well, but I can't believe he de-commited already. I think its a shame that he doesn't realize he will be a better prospect and talent at WR. This guy has no chance of an NFL career as a QB.

[NDGirlzRock]

Flaky!!!!!!!

[irishunclebill]

Harper has de-committed K-State because the coach who recruited him has left the K-State program. Officially he is once again considering the 5 Final schools he has listed before, which includes ND. Unofficially, ND is no more in the mix here than they were when Harper first picked K-State all of 6 days ago. So, ND & Mizzou are out, and I don't think Oregon is all that interested in Harper as a QB anymore. I also see him getting Zooked, who will tell him anything he wants to hear, if not, he could still end up at K-State.

I'm not even going to bother to add Harper back to the uncommitted offers list, I have a feeling this will not drag on for very long.

[irishunclebill]

Harper no longer lists ND as one of his Top 5. There is a strong possibility that is because ND is no longer interested in Chris.

[stonebreakerwasgod]

He's getting good play at the AA practices. Darn shame we can't find a place for him. He could end up being pretty darn good.

[NDisNCin2010]

did he play in the game? was keeping an eye out for him, but i didnt see him at all...

[irishunclebill]

Harper no longer lists ND as one of his Top 5. There is a strong possibility that is because ND is no longer interested in Chris.

Looks like GRob's ASU pick has ND looking at Harper again. According to Chris, CB has spoken to him at length this week about being the #4WR in ND's Class of 2008. Based on that Harper has once again put the Irish on his list of 5 teams under consideration, which are once again Oregon, Mizzou, Illinois, K-State, and ND just as it was about a month ago before he first picked K-State. This one has really become a three ring circus.

[IrishGrizz]

How does this change to him how we are slotted, if this is the same position we recruited him at before (not QB) and 1 of the reasons I thought he put ND lower on his list. At this point in time, who cares if we are 1 of his 5 final schools if we are still in 5th? Has this changed?:confused:

[marv81s]

last i saw, nothing has changed

he wants to play QB and is dead set on it. Last I saw Oregon was his leader

[irishunclebill]

How does this change to him how we are slotted, if this is the same position we recruited him at before (not QB) and 1 of the reasons I thought he put ND lower on his list. At this point in time, who cares if we are 1 of his 5 final schools if we are still in 5th? Has this changed?:confused:

The only thing that has changed as far as I can see is that ND is apparently once again actively recruiting him. Will that make any difference? Probably not, but CB does not want to seem to give up on Harper.

[NDisNCin2010]

Looks like GRob's ASU pick has ND looking at Harper again. According to Chris, CB has spoken to him at length this week about being the #4WR in ND's Class of 2008. Based on that Harper has once again put the Irish on his list of 5 teams under consideration, which are once again Oregon, Mizzou, Illinois, K-State, and ND just as it was about a month ago before he first picked K-State. This one has really become a three ring circus.

would this mean that DWalk's commitment to ND coaches on XMas didnt "jump" GRobs pending decision at the AAA Game? in other words GRob could have come if he wanted to, he just chose ASU.

or

CB wants Harper and all his athleteicism on the D side of the ball?? (Harper keeps asking hmself "Why does ND's DC keep on me when they say i can come in as a WR?):)

[irishunclebill]

would this mean that DWalk's commitment to ND coaches on XMas didnt "jump" GRobs pending decision at the AAA Game? in other words GRob could have come if he wanted to, he just chose ASU.

or

CB wants Harper and all his athleteicism on the D side of the ball?? (Harper keeps asking hmself "Why does ND's DC keep on me when they say i can come in as a WR?):)

A little of both, GRob could have certainly come on board if he wanted to on 1/5. By his not doing so, ND once again started considering Harper who they had stopped calling after his commit and eventual de-commit to K-State. The only difference now is that because GRob is out of the picture they are now looking at Harper solely as a WR, not as an all-around athletic jack of all trades. I don't think that makes the offer any more or less palatable to Harper than it was before.

[IrishGrizz]

IUB, you said it earlier, this is a circus and it won't stop until NSD. Actually, probably last thru another week past that with the plan b and c players from some schools.

I can see several more players from FLA/ Mich/USC left like the preverbial kid left standing when the music stops in the game of musical chairs. They think they had a scholly and all of the sudden, urbie or richy or the poodle pulls it for a prettier girl.

[irishunclebill]

Harper just listed ND as #5 on his list of 5. He is no longer talking about making a visit to Maryland. I wish he would get over with it already and stick to a school this time, but it will obviously not be ND.

[marv81s]

http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/images/oregon_ducks_2.gif

[irishunclebill]

http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/images/oregon_ducks_2.gif

He is officially a Duck. I wish him luck and hope he stays a Duck, but I will be surprised if he ever plays QB there except for maybe a few trick plays, pretty much what he would have done at ND. At least he did not get Zooked, but Belotti is selling him a bill of goods about playing QB as well, because Bellotti has already stated that the Ducks have their QB for the 2008 class in the well traveled Darron Thomas.

[irishunclebill]

LOI to Oregon.

Are you sure Chris?

[SpanishElite]

Not sure where this should go.. but former 2009 WR/QB ND recruit and current Oregon WR Chris Harper is transferring from Oregon. Want to play closer to home so either Kansas, Kansas state or Okie State.

[HoffVir]

Free story on the Oregon rivals site : http://oregon.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=949588


May 26, 2009
Harper to leave Ducks

Oregon Media Services

Talk about it in DSA Stadium Club
University of Oregon wide receiver Chris Harper has informed head coach Chip Kelly of his intentions to transfer to a school closer to his Midwest home, Kelly confirmed Tuesday.


A.J. Jacobson
Chris Harper wants to play closer to home according to Coach Kelly.
The Wichita, Kan., native, who played in 12 of 13 games in 2008 as a true freshman, began his collegiate career at quarterback for the Ducks before finishing the season at wide receiver.

In his four games at quarterback, Harper combined to complete four of nine passes for 40 yards, one touchdown and two interceptions. However he did run for a single-season best 60 yards and one score in the season-opening win vs. Washington, and was at the helm in the second overtime when Oregon scored the winning touchdown in a 32-26 victory at Purdue. He ended the year rushing for 137 yards while adding two scores on the ground.

He was shifted to wide receiver for the team's final seven games, catching passes in four contests. His nine catches for 122 yards and two TDs included a one-game high of five receptions for 85 yards and one score at Arizona State.

"Chris indicated to me that it came down to him wanting to play somewhere closer to home," Kelly said. "I told him I wished him the best."

Kelly said he was unsure where Harper was looking to transfer to, although the Ducks' first-year head coach added he was under the impression from university officials that Harper had requested his release be forward to Kansas, Kansas State and Oklahoma State.

Harper will have four seasons to complete his three years of remaining collegiate eligibility.

[SpanishElite]

Thanks Hoff. Wasnt sure if it was premium or not.

[HoffVir]

Thanks Hoff. Wasnt sure if it was premium or not.

If I can read it, it's free. :bigsmile:

It's just kinda funny and sad, didn't Weis say he'd make a good WR?

[NDgrandson]

If I can read it, it's free. :bigsmile:

It's just kinda funny and sad, didn't Weis say he'd make a good WR?

Yes he did. I wish CW would get some credit for being truthful to these recruits. Harper is a great athlete and if he finds the right spot, can be a big playmaker.

[irishunclebill]

LOI to Oregon.

Are you sure Chris?

LOL- I guess he wasn't.