Shot at Hale? [Archive] - GoldHelmet.com

paddyman

07-05-2007, 02:47 PM

http://notredame.rivals.com/wire.asp

According to this link, Compton says he has not been offered because the Irish still think thye have a shot a Hale. Any one here got info supporting this? All i have heard is he is OSu all the way.

There was a buch of rumors the other week about him being on campus but i believe it was Ethan Johnson and not Hale. I would love to get this kid. He looks lika beast waiting to blast our opponents off the field.

Svoboda

07-05-2007, 03:11 PM

IMO, our chances with Hale are slim and none, and slim couldn't get into Notre Dame -- rejected by admissions.

But seriously, Compton is on hold because of our standing with Steve Filer and Etienne Sabino, both of whom the Irish feel very strongly about. I still fully believe Filer will be Irish even though he's playing the game (think Marcus Forston) and Sabino is a wildcard, who I think could be stolen out of South Florida if we just can get him on campus.

Finally, back to Hale... I think he ultimately ends up as a defensive end at the next level.

notredomer23

07-05-2007, 03:23 PM

I agree with Svo, ND's chances with Hale are at about 1% at most ATM.

paddyman

07-05-2007, 03:35 PM

Svoboda

07-05-2007, 05:24 PM

I agree with both of you, i just read that and it caught me off guard. Though if CW can get Omar hunter onto campus and wow him, whats to say hayle would not be blown away if he ever made it to campus?
Of course there is always a possiblity -- you definitely learned that with the Omar Hunter commitment. However, Hale has already visited campus before when he was in for an unofficial during Penn State last year.

Ricochet

07-05-2007, 05:27 PM

I don't know Hale might be a lost cause but maybe not alot of the reports have come from biased places rather from neutral sources.

I may be way off but I think as some more time goes by he will see most of these schools will want to move him to DE because of his size and at ND with the 3-4 his size is perfect for an OLB.

Well thats my $0.02. :)

The Army Awakens

07-05-2007, 05:44 PM

I totally agree ricochet... Somebody has to tell him other than ND that he will be playing linebacker... He wants to be the next Courtney Brown not put his hand on the ground...

ndblue

07-05-2007, 09:08 PM

rontdtarchala

07-05-2007, 09:14 PM

in my mind I would rather have the one that loves notre dame all things being equal...that's a kid that's going to do what it takes to be the best he can be...

fighting doug

07-05-2007, 11:18 PM

Compton's the type of kid you pull for but he's probally worst case scenario for the staff. You have to shoot for the talent, CW has proven he can get a guy on campus and anything can happen.

NDGirlzRock

07-06-2007, 08:05 AM

Well Compton is definately passionate about ND football. I think that if the kid got an offer he would commit right then and there. My gut feeling is that Filer, eventhough everyone says he is an ND lean, is heading elsewhere. Sabino is possible, come-on CB work your magic, and I think Compton, if he is patient, will get his coveted offer. Compton reminds me of guys like Stonebreaker and Zorich. They bled for ND and I think this kid will too. Just give him a chance and he'll walk through fire for you.

rdrdreamer

07-06-2007, 08:53 AM

Svoboda, love the site!

I alluded on another site that maybe the final LB spots are about to go. I wonder if Sabino is coming in to give ND a check because ND maybe about to offer Compton. I am not saying Compton is better then Sabino, but maybe ND is using this as pressure. You have Sabino who shows a lot of promise, but you have a kid in Compton who loves ND. If I am Corwin Brown maybe that love or passion for ND football translates into a better recruit, but you have to honor your offers. Hence, maybe there is a little push going on now.

I really identified with your point ndblue. I feel that the only way Hale gets his scholarship, is if it is still available. We have approximately twenty something (25?) offers still open, and not even half of that in scholarships remaining for this year. It is a part of recruiting that is necessary for us to achieve what we have thus far this year. Sure we may keep an 'open spot' for a couple of these youngsters, but this would be the exception and not the rule. And whom will the exception's will be?

I feel that Coach Weis learned a valuable lesson from last years class...that 'silent' verbals don't hold water? We should put out quality offers, offers that yes...we are intending to honor while available. But with Coach Weis's new policy, I believe we will get our guys...and they will remain committed. First come...first served.

But ndblue, like NDGirl, I too feel that Compton has already made known his desire for the Irish...and this kid can play. He is this years Brian Smith...to say the least. And I for one wouldn't feel any less about our next years incoming class having Will Compton in South Bend in 2008.

By the way...I like Hale, question is does he really like us? I sure wouldn't want to lose out on a quality linebacker waiting for this answer...

goirish41

07-06-2007, 10:13 AM

in my mind I would rather have the one that loves notre dame all things being equal...that's a kid that's going to do what it takes to be the best he can be...

But, I don't think all things are equal. ES is probably a better linebacker (and an OLB at that) than Compton. That said, I wouldn't mind if Compton got an offer.

IrishCalves

07-06-2007, 10:38 AM

Its a real balancing act here. Physically, Compton is a lot like Aaron Nagel. 6'1"-6'2" 215-220. With Nagel, we know he's got to hit the weight room a bit before he can take the field at LB, and we know he's only going to be an ILB. Same deal with Compton if you ask me.

Translation: with 7 months to go 'til LOI day, and at least 2 of the 4 offered LB's slated to visit later this month, I like the idea of waiting this one out 'til summer's end. Every one of the offered LB's is a consensus top 100 athlete... you don't throw that opportunity away because of cold feet in July... we've earned the ability to be a little picky after 17 verbals, so I say use it to your advantage.

stonebreakerwasgod

07-06-2007, 10:58 AM

NDGirlzRock

07-06-2007, 11:29 AM

I think that the LBs that we have gotten, last year and this year, should gel as a cohesive unit. With that said, we have some big name LBs. (Fleming, McDonald) But you also need the guys that know there job and can let the the key guys roam the field like the caged lions that they are. I say we need one more big name guy (whether it be Sabino or Filer) and a guy like Compton. Fit the scheme, don't just take the big name player that may not gel well with the rest of your guys.

stonebreakerwasgod

07-06-2007, 11:34 AM

One more big name guy would be welcome, two would cause me to have a drink. I do agree though, I like the fact that our commits seem to gel pretty quickly.

rdrdreamer

07-06-2007, 02:34 PM

One more big name guy would be welcome, two would cause me to have a drink. I do agree though, I like the fact that our commits seem to gel pretty quickly.

I agree Stoney, This says alot for the quality of the person, more so than the ability. When we are able to secure a player with both, then we can just about do anything with our offensive and defensive schemes.

By the way, careful on what your drinking...looks like you will be drinking after all? What would you do if we secure three big names? :cool:

NDGirlzRock

07-06-2007, 03:28 PM

I agree Stoney, This says alot for the quality of the person, more so than the ability. When we are able to secure a player with both, then we can just about do anything with our offensive and defensive schemes.

By the way, careful on what your drinking...looks like you will be drinking after all? What would you do if we secure three big names? :cool:

Did someone say drink? :D

Troy's Enterprise Pride

07-23-2007, 04:58 PM

I totally agree ricochet... Somebody has to tell him other than ND that he will be playing linebacker... He wants to be the next Courtney Brown not put his hand on the ground...

feel free to disregard anything TAA says about hale. he was the one pumping hale to ND back around July 4th relentlessly. DomerDomain posters shot off at anyone questioning TAA about the whole ordeal but failed to apologize when Hale eliminated ND from his options.

The Army Awakens

07-23-2007, 06:11 PM

First of all. I did admit my source was wrong but wasn't wrong with McCarthy, and Ethan Johnson along with J. Slaughter. So whatever to you... I'm a true Irish fan at heart... It wasn't like that I said this and I said that... I said I heard from a valuable source... He was the one mistaken not me... But if you go to the DD and read my history If you think that I start terrible rumors all the damn time... It was once and it is over so get off my nuts about it...

rontdtarchala

07-23-2007, 06:35 PM

yeah what he said

stew654

07-23-2007, 07:10 PM

I for one am glad that there are guys out there willing to go on the line and share there connections info. Would make for awfully boring boards and recruiting season without it. Bring something to the table before you start bitchn.

stonebreakerwasgod

07-23-2007, 07:19 PM

Let's play nice boys.

Akron Irish

07-23-2007, 07:25 PM

Let's play nice boys.

Why do you gotta ruin all the fun. It was just starting to get interesting!! LOL

stonebreakerwasgod

07-23-2007, 07:26 PM

I prefer we keep the recruit section clean. The pub is where to go for humor, debate.
Feel free to visit my thread and post a comment. :)

HoffVir

07-23-2007, 07:27 PM

Let's play nice boys.

Yup. As long as you're not being completely ridiculous with spreading rumors, everyone should feel free to share "inside" info without getting crucified if it turns out to be false. I lurk over at DD from time to time and TAA has always been upfront about his info.

stonebreakerwasgod

07-23-2007, 07:29 PM

Hoff: Lurker extraordinaire.

HoffVir

07-23-2007, 07:29 PM

Hoff: Lurker extraordinaire.

I have many titles, add it to the list.

stonebreakerwasgod

07-23-2007, 07:36 PM

It goes so great with 'Blue Steel'.

Troy's Enterprise Pride

07-24-2007, 08:46 AM

He was the one mistaken not me...

it's so easy to pass the blame on someone else, but let's examine the situation here...

your source said he saw hale on campus, and he was wrong.

you then, assuming he was on campus, also saw that hale had cancelled all of his other summer trips. this info was accurate.

you then assumed hale did so because of charlie's recruiting policy, and this is where you put 2 and 2 together and got 5. you automatically assumed that if hale was on campus and cancelled his other visits that he was irish instead of sticking with "facts" by saying "he's on campus, he has cancelled his visits. this looks good for us, considering charlie's recruiting policy."

you jumped to a forgone conclusion and let the DD members berrate anyone who challeneged your position. after news surfaced of hale's top four (sans Notre Dame), you quoted, "i still have to believe that the irish are players in this one," instead of owning up to your premature evaluation of the situation.

as for sharing info, i'm all for it. i'm thankful for people who share inside info, but i think it is irresponsible to mix info with inside suppositions and pass it off as truth. and, for you to use your source as a scapegoat when you were the one who formulated that hale was irish (after all, your source simply told you that hale was on campus), is immature. sure, we make mistakes, but at least man up and own up to it when you do.... instead of taking the easy way out.

therizz

07-24-2007, 09:07 AM

I personally believe that AA has already dealt with all of this over on DD. More than just a "oops." It seems like it is coming up all over again though...

The Army Awakens

07-24-2007, 09:14 AM

You wanna debate Troy... We can debate but in no way are you going to find a bigger ND fan... Born in raised in Gary, IN I never have left the Irish side... Ok I was wrong but I am not wrong in saying all the other things I've said... Its cool though I don't like really listen to someone who has Troy in their handle... Consider the source...

Troy's Enterprise Pride

07-24-2007, 09:35 AM

why do you think i am questioning your loyalty to the irish? nowhere have i ever implied that you aren't an irish fan. i know that you are an irish fan... that much is obvious.

i just think you speak with such certainty about things, create a huge uproar, and pass the blame when you are wrong. you post like you know the kid (i.e. "the kid wants to be the next courtney brown") when in reality, you know nothing about him other than what you read on rivals/scout. i was just warning the other posters to take your views on hale with a grain of salt.

that being said, i didn't question your other predictions.... i don't even know your other recruit involvement, but i do know that you were wrong on hale and used a scapegoat to cop out... which is pretty weak.

and as far as your comment about my name... you know as much about this handle (and its meaning) as you do about shayne hale. sometimes, you should learn more about something before you spout off at the mouth.

mlcspinner

07-24-2007, 10:25 AM

So.... Do we have a shot or not ??? :)

marv81s

07-24-2007, 10:29 AM

not only no, but f**k no

last LB spot goes to Sabino if he wants it

stonebreakerwasgod

07-24-2007, 10:52 AM

Alright boys, let's play nice. You can carry heated tones in a pm if you care to, but this thread is about Hale, and not about us.

IrishCalves

07-24-2007, 10:56 AM

Stoney's avatar makes his words carry so much more weight. And what a stern index finger.

stonebreakerwasgod

07-24-2007, 11:01 AM

It's the 12 oz. curls.

Akron Irish

07-24-2007, 11:02 AM

Bunch of drama going on. Feels like a Jerry Springer show.

stonebreakerwasgod

07-24-2007, 11:06 AM

I understand each side, but we need to remember we are all ND fans (well..except napy). That trumps all.

DiegoIrish

07-24-2007, 11:09 AM

Is there another USCum fan causing ruckus again...?

The Army Awakens

07-24-2007, 11:14 AM

Ok Troy you win... You happy... But still going to post and but only about public news... The people who trust me and my sources from campus can pm me if they want to know more about certain things... You are just trying to attack me.. I know that we are all God's children but nobody is perfect we all make mistakes and if you don't believe that you don't believe in nothing ND stands for..

DiegoIrish

07-24-2007, 11:15 AM

Yo AA put me on that PM list buddy.

stonebreakerwasgod

07-24-2007, 11:19 AM

There is zero need for a list. The info provided here, I think all can attest to, is not only timely, but accurate. That said, whatever floats your boats.

The Army Awakens

07-24-2007, 11:22 AM

No offense stone just saying if I hear something that no one would believe or pure rumor I don't want to start a firestorm... Thats all... But I will post info that is confirmed and if it happens b4 someone else hears it I will post it... I love GH just haven't posted here much...

stonebreakerwasgod

07-24-2007, 11:24 AM

None taken. I thought it was generous to offer that. What I said was for general consumption. Feel free to post at GH as often as I do. :)

Troy's Enterprise Pride

07-24-2007, 11:24 AM

stonebreakerwasgod

07-24-2007, 11:31 AM

I do agree with Troy on that front. Info is great. Taking it to a higher level by connecting dots should be left to each individual. This is a good reminder for everyone out there. Please share info, but be sure to state what is fact, and what is supposition.

Specnatz

07-24-2007, 11:57 AM

None taken. I thought it was generous to offer that. What I said was for general consumption. Feel free to post at GH as often as I do. :)

Is that possible?

Anyway just for kicks ...

Any news on Hale?

ND Fanatic

07-24-2007, 11:58 AM

i think you are being a bit extreme, taa. rumors are fine as long as they are stated as such.... believable or not. i have no problem with you, or anyone else, relaying unreliable/unconfirmed information as long as this is preceded with a cautionary statement. simple as that.

Maybe its just me, but isn't 90% of the info on message boards in general unconfirmed info, and should be taken as such. I don't believe that there are very many of us talk to the recruits ourselves, so at best, most everything is second-hand info to begin with. I myself, take every statement under caution, so there is no need for someone to tell me to do so. Even everything IUB, who I trust implicitly, says is taken with caution - because someday even he may be wrong.

TAA - as I've said before keep firing - or you can PM me anytime you want.

mlcspinner

07-24-2007, 12:04 PM

Is that possible?

Anyway just for kicks ...

Any news on Hale?

for the record I have tried and it is not possible.

I have no news to report on Hale sorry. But that is one of the reasons I love GH. Good info, good people, and GREAT MODS. :D

stonebreakerwasgod

07-24-2007, 12:18 PM

No it's not. LOL

Fishin'_Irish

07-24-2007, 12:27 PM

Is that possible?

Anyway just for kicks ...

Any news on Hale?

He calls himself Superstoney for a reason.:D

stonebreakerwasgod

07-24-2007, 12:29 PM

Ok..that was a joke!

Fishin'_Irish

07-24-2007, 12:41 PM

lol

NDGirlzRock

07-24-2007, 12:53 PM

For the record I think that we have no shot at Hale! As far as TAA is concerned, his information seems to be right on, for the most part. Seems to me that Tony just wants to pick on people...me included! This is what posting is about! It includes your opinions and no source is fool-proof. TAA I just want to say that I hope that you do keep posting on here, I like your insight and I think you add alot to the discussions. As for Tony, we may not agree on things and he loves to tell me that I don't know my a** from a hole in the ground, but it's guys like him that crank off some pointed posts that help liven things up. Only thing I would say to Tony is ease up on people....just cause you don't agree with one of TAA's sources or posts doesn't mean that they are all bad or my opinions. To me they are valid! To others they are valid or not valid. Don't rip my head off because of it.